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Open thread 11/6/23

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  • ghostsniper November 6, 2023, 9:12 AM

    Casey sed: “Most people don’t want news. They want olds. Not new but old stuff.”
    I say: “The best way to predict the future is to create it.”

    Therefore, if you want old, then do old!

    Speaking of old, we sorta had a death in the fambly this past week.
    In our ongoing effort to “do” old, about 10 years ago my wife and I shunned most of modern TV and installed 4 DVD players in the living room. Then we did some research and started procuring DVD’s of OLD stuff we wanted to watch.

    During this past 10 years we have went through a lot of old movies, old TV series, old documentaries, etc. Several years ago (3?) we started watching the old black and white TV series “Perry Mason”. My wife and I are the same age we both have memories of PM being an “adult” TV show that came on about 9pm and us kids had to be in bed by that time, so we never got to watch but we well remembered the theme song at the beginning. The PM series lasted 9 years, I think, maybe 8, and it ended last week. It was an hour long show and we watched 1 episode per week.

    So now one of our DVD players is on vacation until such time one of us can decide what we want to watch next. Just remembered. Last week we also finished the last episode of a 1950’s western series named “The Tall Man”. I think that one was only 3 seasons and the epi’s were 30 mins. So yeah, 2 DVD players are on vacay. Guess I need to hit amazon and see about changing that.

    Seriously, I can see no point to linear TV today except to attack the sensibilities or normal, sane people. We only watch TV at suppertime and if we try to watch linear TV I have the spoon in my right hand and the remote in the left, ready to hit the channel button when it goes to a commercial every 8 minutes.

    • Casey Klahn November 6, 2023, 9:10 PM

      “Create the future”. It’s a good clarion call, but it takes everything you’ve got. I like it, though.

      The illustration I use is the old mountain climber story where Oley climbs on Sven’s shoulder to grasp the next move. Are you standing on Oley’s shoulder, or on his face?

      No school like the old school. But, think about a world without change. We’d shrivel up and die before you can say Johnny Cash.

  • John the River November 6, 2023, 11:04 AM

    I dare to mention Amazon Prime only because so many people have access due to ‘stuff’.
    But it has a great old series “Steve Canyon”. Great old aircraft from the Century Series of American fighters in action. No political correctness.
    Also on Tubi.

    • ghostsniper November 6, 2023, 11:44 AM

      Thanks for the tip John, I’ll look it up.
      Do I remember an old newspaper cartoon with someone named Steve Canyon?

      • John the River November 8, 2023, 4:36 PM

        Yes, Milton Caniff. Started with another flying comic strip “Terry and the Pirates”.

  • ghostsniper November 6, 2023, 12:57 PM




    The wall on which the prophets wrote
    Is cracking at the seams
    Upon the instruments of death
    The sunlight brightly gleams
    When every man is torn apart
    With nightmares and with dreams
    Will no one lay the laurel wreath
    When silence drowns the screams

    Confusion will be my epitaph
    As I crawl a cracked and broken path
    If we make it we can all sit back and laugh
    But I fear tomorrow I’ll be crying
    Yes I fear tomorrow I’ll be crying
    Yes I fear tomorrow I’ll be crying

    Between the iron gates of fate
    The seeds of time were sown
    And watered by the deeds of those
    Who know and who are known
    Knowledge is a deadly friend
    If no one sets the rules
    The fate of all mankind I see
    Is in the hands of fools

    The wall on which the prophets wrote
    Is cracking at the seams
    Upon the instruments of death
    The sunlight brightly gleams
    When every man is torn apart
    With nightmares and with dreams
    Will no one lay the laurel wreath
    When silence drowns the screams

    Confusion will be my epitaph
    As I crawl a cracked and broken path
    If we make it we can all sit back and laugh
    But I fear tomorrow I’ll be crying
    Yes I fear tomorrow I’ll be crying
    Yes I fear tomorrow I’ll be crying
    Yes I fear tomorrow I’ll be crying
    Yes I fear tomorrow I’ll be crying
    Yes I fear tomorrow I’ll be crying

  • DT November 6, 2023, 4:03 PM

    “Casey sed: “Most people don’t want news. They want olds. Not new but old stuff.”
    Therefore, if you want old, then do old!”

    Sorry. This great tune isn’t old. After all, 1969 wasn’t all that long ago, was it?
    This may qualify though:

    An interesting period I would like to visit (and perhaps immediately wish to return)

    • ghostsniper November 6, 2023, 5:23 PM

      HA! That’s one of many songs I learned in elementary school in rural PA is the 60’s.
      Remember when public schools worked?

    • Terry November 6, 2023, 5:38 PM

      DT, I grew up a member of a large extended family that included several musicians. My fathers mother had a beautiful Victrola with a large funnel shaped speaker and hand crank on the side of the gorgeous wooden cabinet.

      The old house behind the old house my grandparents lived in (grandmother was born in this house and later passed away, in this house) had a stash of hundreds of antique 78’s. I used to listen to these records on the Victrola for hours at a time. At 10 years of age I was a new saxophone player.

      Yes, we used to have a nation. An exceptional nation indeed.

      • ghostsniper November 6, 2023, 6:25 PM

        I too had the opportunity to play an instrument in grade school. At age 8, 1963, through the school my parents bought me a new Ambassador trumpet for $189. On Wed afternoon I would leave the regular class and take my trumpet to the basement for an hour long lesson from Mr Barr. Me and 1 other kid were taking trumpet lessons. I took lessons through 6th grade and got pretty good at it. But the Beatles converted me and I started playing guitar at age11. I started with a $35 acoustic that I bought at Woolworth with money I made mowing lawns in the neighborhood for $3 each.
        Yeah, I mowed 12 yards for the money to buy my first guitar. How many 11 yo’s today even mow yards? Let alone for $3. I was glad to be doing it.

  • Casey Klahn November 6, 2023, 9:15 PM

    John brings up Steve Canyon! Milt Caniff, that old dodger!

    American Illustration is the envy of the free world, and the jet age stuff of Steve Canyon was what we cut our teeth on in our youth. I grew up, though. Now I look at Caniff’s illustrations as stepping stones.

    • ghostsniper November 7, 2023, 3:39 AM

      Looks like Norman Rockwell’s son worked with him for a long time.

  • ghostsniper November 7, 2023, 3:44 AM

    Ironically, this is one of the stupidest things I have ever read anywhere.
    Amazingly enough, the comments below it are even stupider.
    This whole thing has to be fake and manufactured by institutional idiots, right?


  • Casey Klahn November 7, 2023, 4:37 AM

    Now we have Indians in long boats, flying the Palestine “flag”. In Tacoma.

    I believe that what happened in Oakland, and the thing in Tacoma where a ship on a military mission is being delayed in port, is a felony. You don’t read that detail in the criminal news media. The extent of ANTIFA’s coercion with the democrat government is something I’d love to hear more about.

    There is now a boomer in the Med or the Red Sea. It’s not there to counter Hamas.

    The Israeli’s shot down a low space missile shot by the Houthies, and this is the first combat ever in space. Go figure a rebel contingent shooting sophisticated weaponry. Meanwhile, in Germany, an elementary school patronizingly named after Anne Frank is changing the name to something “less political”. Maybe they should name it after an American Indian.

    • ghostsniper November 7, 2023, 6:42 AM

      Casey sed: “where a ship on a military mission is being delayed in port, is a felony.”

      Unpossible. Just as it’s unpossible t o charge the IRS with Theft.

      Casey sed: “Maybe they should name it after an American Indian.”

      At what point did the indians become american?
      And, did the indians agree with becoming american?
      And, what did the indians call america before the european’s arrived?
      I heard a rumor that their nomadic asses had no concept of property.

      Anne Frank? Didn’t she get debunked?

      • Casey Klahn November 7, 2023, 10:21 AM

        Seen in a bookstore at Pike Place Market, in Seattle. A book titled: When did the Indians stop being gay? Not making that up.

        Can’t tell what you mean when you say impossible. That interfering with military traffic is not a felony? I’m no lawyer, but someone ought to ask if it’s a felony because ANTIFA commits felonies like they were going out of style.

        Anne Frank; I thought she got cancelled, but I never paid any attention to that.

        Two bankers on a NYC street. One says to the other: “How’s business?” The other says: “OK, I guess.” First guy: “WHAT ARE YOU, AN ANTI-SEMITE?”

  • Snakepit Kansas November 7, 2023, 4:48 AM

    Lawrence O’Donnell is stupid as a bag of hair.

    • ghostsniper November 7, 2023, 6:45 AM

      I bet when he’s not working he wears bitch shoes.
      Like these:

      • Snakepit Kansas November 8, 2023, 5:06 AM

        Those shoes are ugly as sin.

        • ghostsniper November 8, 2023, 7:20 AM

          Fairly common.
          I see worthless blobs wearing them everywhere right out in public.
          Can’t imagine the mindset behind such a thing.

  • Trooper John Smith November 7, 2023, 6:52 AM

    Sometime around 1762, William Bean built a cabin at the mouth of Boone’s Creek where it enters the Watauga River. Daniel Boone had a hunting camp on that spot, and had been in the area with Bean’s brother during previous hunting trips. This was the first permanent European home built west of the Alleghenies. William and Lydia subsequently had a son, Russell, who was the first white child born in Tennessee.
    Russell grew into a fine specimen of a frontiersman, by all accounts, and an accomplished gunsmith. It was said that he could make more implements of war and other useful items for frontier living from fewer tools than anyone else. He soon made a trip into the northern settlements and returned with a goodly number of tools such that he was able to establish quite the armory in the Watauga area. After he had manufactured a number of pistols, rifles, and other goods, he had a flat boat constructed and he embarked down the river to sell his wares. He ended up in New Orleans and tarried there while enjoying the various sporting activities offered in such a place. It is said that he engaged in many footraces, cock fights, and horse races before finally returning to the Watauga area about 2 years later.
    Upon his return, he found his wife nursing a newborn infant. He left the cabin and got drunk. When he came back home, he snatched up the infant and cut both of it’s ears off close to it’s head “So that I may mark it from my own”. The locals were horrified and an arrest warrant was immediately sworn out. However, no one could serve it. Bean would sit in the door of his cabin with a rifle nearby and pistols in his lap, vowing to kill any man who approached.
    The magistrate in Jonesborough was a newcomer named Andrew Jackson. Jackson was incensed when he found out that the perpetrator of such a heinous act remained at large and openly defiant of the arrest warrant. Jackson instructed the constable to call every man in the court, if necessary, to effect the arrest. The constable replied that, in that case, “I call you to be first, Mr. Jackson.” Jackson immediately armed himself and went in search of the miscreant, finding him at a local tavern. Jackson leveled his pistol and demanded his surrender. Bean immediately put down his arms and submitted. When asked why he did so without a struggle, Bean replied that Jackson was the first to come after him “with shoot in his eyes.”
    After his arrest, he was found guilty of the charge. His sentence was that he would have his palm branded. This was done. Russell Bean immediately bit the brand out of his palm and spit it out on the ground in front of the onlookers. Russell Bean was a rough old cob. He later moved a little further west and established the community of Bean’s Station. He then spent some time in Knoxville where he encountered Andrew Jackson once again. Jackson and Bean seem to have reconciled and it is said that Jackson even reunited Bean with his ex wife (who had remarried and lost her second husband, as well as the child that Bean had disfugured). They were remarried and lived together until Russel’s death.

  • Terry November 7, 2023, 11:47 AM

    Now in action:


    Big Red 1: Ia Drang Valley
    My brother Tim was in this battle and survived the miss dropped napalm. He only this year began talking about the hideous mess our dot gov got my brother involved in for a fake reason. He despises the US Army and their totally inept officer corps.

    Here, a Hollywood reenaction: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k487rUfjbjA

    Link from AT article above.

    • ghostsniper November 7, 2023, 12:58 PM

      We need battle rifles with 2 barrels.
      One that fires normally to the front, and one that fires to the rear simultaneously.

      • Terry November 7, 2023, 1:40 PM

        No felt recoil.

        The 1st ID got a lesson in war on that battle. They were celebrated in WW2. Vietnam was a whole new experience. The enemy was experienced, dedicated and brave. They were in their country. They had no air power, poor medical and knew they would never see their family again. Drafted for life. And a short life it was.

        This scenario is very likely coming to our backyards.

        • ghostsniper November 7, 2023, 2:36 PM

          The battlefield is a 333,000,000 piece puzzle, your skin is your uniform, and your main battle weapon is garrisoned between your ears. It’s a good idea to keep moving about, cycling all of your functions all day everyday doing a variety of things so you don’t lock up. It’s unknown whether it will fragment little by little or blow all at once or something in between.

          Keep all supplies 80% stocked, all vehicles 80% filled and capable, all the time.

    • Casey Klahn November 7, 2023, 8:12 PM

      Terry, greetings. What 1st ID? I won’t say the 1st wasn’t in or near Ia Drang Valley, but the unit most associated with the Ia Drang Valley battle in Vietnam was the 1st Cavalry Division.

      I knew guys form both units. I sat under a leadership instructor who was right there in all the shit featured in the We Were Soldiers movie. He had a particular look on his face when he told the stories. This guy was anything but inept, but I won’t argue second had your brother’s experinces or stories.

      I had a close friend who was in the 1st ID in Nam. He was a great guy and his stories also would keep you riveted. Certainly a unit that saw serious combat.

      Let’s see. What will happen as a result of sleeper cells in the US crossing from Mexico? I hate to say it but that’s been told for years and years now, and no attack has transpired. I mean, I’m happy for no attacks, but I am about %500 more worried about federal Forces of our own colors. These are the nutbags who cut the barbed wire that the Texas guard put up and let the migrants in. You have: federals at counter-purposes to the state.

      What I learned from my friends fresh back from Vietnam was: survive and don’t overdose on your own adrenaline and fears. Confusion is just another state of mind and to be countered with steel nerves if you want to live through the worst.

      Ia Drang was a bad trip, but it was 3G warfare, plain and simple. You’re in the midst of a 5G war, and the better you process information the better off you’ll be. Stay strong.

      • Terry November 8, 2023, 5:56 PM

        Casey, I will call my brother this weekend and get my unit info straight. May be 1st Cav. He has a property in the mountains and since his wife was murdered by the jab he has been in seclusion.

        Since he returned from Nam way back the Sheriff’s office has told its “employees” to steer clear of him. He was the head instructor of close encounter unarmed combat for the program we ran in Nevada during Ahab war II (really a skirmish).

        He relishes egging on body builder tattooed cops to challenge him in combat. Those that do get slammed to the ground in nano seconds. LOL

        • Casey Klahn November 8, 2023, 8:44 PM

          Sounds like a guy nottofukwith!

          I used to relish making heavyweight fighters and football players whimper when they got to my rock climbs. The ones who didn’t. but who repected the problem, became my good friends.

          All my best.

      • Terry November 11, 2023, 5:58 PM

        Casey, you are correct. My bad. I called my brother Tim and he told me he was in the !st Cav, not the 1st ID. He also told me he and a few of his Company members did some tunnel clearing with the 1st ID. More death traps, booby traps, poisoned bamboo stakes and fearless enemy.

  • ghostsniper November 8, 2023, 4:29 AM

    but I am about %500 more worried about federal Forces of our own colors.
    Right there.
    THAT’S where the real problem is.
    NOT 8k miles away.
    5-10 miles away.
    The first time is the hardest.

    • Terry November 11, 2023, 6:45 PM

      I believe the border crossers are the real threat. Several million are here already. What was all the ammo for that the ken*y*n purchased with our money?

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