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  • ghostsniper November 15, 2023, 9:24 AM

    Silver’s down right now folks, it’s time to buy, buy, buy!
    Buy low, sell high – that’s what they say.
    The link has affordable availability, lower than I’ve seen anywhere else.

    Buy what is easily identified and verifiable.
    Buy only 90% silver.
    That means, US Mint coins, pre-1964.

    My suggestion is to buy dimes to start, if you’re new at this.
    Roosevelt, Mercury, Barber.
    Roosevelt dimes today are $24.48 for 10 ($1.00 face value) of them, (about $2.45 each)
    To date, the lowest price I have paid was $25.78 on 17 Jun 2022, last year.

    Typically I buy enough, I think $200, to get free shipping.
    Silver is heavy so the shipping cost could be substantial.


    I have done the homework and purchased the equipment and learned how to use it, and if things go sideways in the future I plan on being an Assayer – a person that deals in precious metals – buying, selling, bartering. In the meantime I am purchasing inventory for my future bank-store.

  • ghostsniper November 15, 2023, 10:02 AM

    Learn from my mistake.

    In Sep this year our neighbor Jim Bond gave us some sketty squashes from his garden.
    I harvested the seeds from one, about 300 seeds, cleaned all the membranes off of them and dryed them on paper towels for a couple days. Then I put them in a small Tupperware with a piece of paper with what-when-where on it, then on to a shelf in the larder.

    Couple days ago I did the same thing with a Butternut squash from Jim.
    The seeds had been drying on a paper towel for a few days and I put them in a Tupperware.
    I got the sketty seed Tupperware out so I could make the new label same as the old.
    The Spaghetti Squash seeds were all moldy. A thick white mold and the paper label inside was damp.
    A total loss. DAM!!!

    So I took the open container with the butternut seeds and put it on the sunny kitchen window sill and I’ll let the sun dry the seeds out thoroughly. Maybe I’ll leave them there a week to make sure.
    Then, I’ll sacrifice a new-clean shop rag, cut it into fourths and then zip tie one of the pieces over the tupperware. It’ll keep dust and insects out but let the seeds breath. I’ll continue to check the seeds every couple weeks.

    Imagine being dependent on the seeds you harvest for your next years grub, and finding out all of it went bad. How can you go a whole year without vegetables? You can’t. So you live and learn. Or you die out.

    There’s more to being a farmer than most people think. LOT’S more.

    • Terry November 15, 2023, 6:27 PM

      My experience with subsistence food is that humans not only can live well just by eating red meat but live well. I met a couple old gold miners who were in their sixties who lived and seemed to be healthy on a diet of deer jerky, occasional beef, spam, coffee and whiskey. Zero vegetables, zero fruit. Some years they raised a steer they bought from a nearby rancher and butchered it after fattening the guy up on the grass they had fenced off. Most of the beef was turned into jerky and some was made into sausages. I saw about a two hundred pound pig in a pen once also.

      These two miners were tough characters. They had a five stamp mill run by a Pelton wheel watered by a year-round creek. The Pelton wheel ran a AC generator also. They were constantly harassed by the fed dot gov for petty or made up “violations”. They (the miners) wore large caliber revolvers in holsters.

      My brothers and I traded these two characters a couple bottles of whiskey for a pickup load of used bricks from a kiln at the mine for a couple years.

      Good old days . . .

      My brother Tim bought a 160 acre homestead property on the ridge to the north of the area the meat eaters lived, about twenty year ago. He is now close to moving to a cabin he is finishing up. He and his wife were looking forward to getting out of the metropolis (around 100 residents ghost town) they have lived near for the last fifty years. She won’t be moving to the new place. She was killed by the jab. She was the only one in my family who took the jab. Immediately after getting jabbed she suffered a massive stroke. Totally paralyzed from the neck down. Within four months she had two more strokes. Last one killed her. The ordeal she and my brother went through during this event is beyond description.

      Find a D*mo*rat and crush it like a shit eating fly.

  • ghostsniper November 15, 2023, 10:12 AM

    Biden smears climate skeptic Nobel laureate at White House for practicing “right-wing science”

    2022 Nobel Prize-winning scientist Dr. John Clauser met one-on-one with Pres. Biden in the Oval Office last year at the White House after winning the Nobel.

    Biden asked Clauser which policies he disagreed with:

    Clauser said he told Biden: “Well, the top of the list is climate and
    US energy policy.

    And Biden grumbled, ‘Sounds like right-wing science.’

    See video here:


  • ghostsniper November 15, 2023, 10:20 AM

    Generals gathered in their masses
    Just like witches at black masses
    Evil minds that plot destruction
    Sorcerer of death’s construction
    In the fields the bodies burning
    As the war machine keeps turning
    Death and hatred to Mankind
    Poisoning their brainwashed minds…
    Oh Lord yeah!

    Politicians hide themselves away
    They only started the war
    Why should they go out to fight?
    They leave that role to the poor

    Time will tell on their power minds
    Making war just for fun
    Treating people just like pawns in chess
    Wait ’till their judgment day comes, yeah!

    Now in darkness, world stops turning
    Ashes where the bodies burning
    No more war pigs have the power
    Hand of God has struck the hour
    Day of Judgment, God is calling
    On their knees the war pigs crawling
    Begging mercy for their sins
    Satan, laughing, spreads his wings…
    Oh Lord, yeah!

    1974 – Ozzie gesticulating wildly on stage.

  • Bob Clark November 15, 2023, 4:46 PM

    Thank you ghostsniper!

    • ghostsniper November 15, 2023, 5:32 PM
    • ghostsniper November 15, 2023, 5:39 PM


      • Snakepit Kansas November 17, 2023, 5:03 AM

        Peace sells, but who’s buying? – Dave Mustane

  • ghostsniper November 16, 2023, 7:07 AM

    Here’s Osama Bin Laden’s Letter to the American People
    Osama bin Laden promised endless war in a newly declassified letter to the American people.
    By David Francis, a staff writer at Foreign Policy from 2014-2017.

    MAY 20, 2015, 10:43 AM
    Osama bin Laden wanted to speak directly to the American people.

    An undated letter promising endless war is one of hundreds of documents collected in the May 2, 2011 raid on his compound in Pakistan that was released Wednesday. The full text is below.

    In the name of Allah, the Compassionate, the Merciful.

    From Usama Bin Muhammad Bin Ladin to the American people,

    I speak to you about the subject of the ongoing war between you
    and us. Even though the consensus of your wise thinkers and
    others is that your time (TN: of defeat) will come, compassion
    for the women and children who are being unjustly killed,
    wounded, and displaced in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Pakistan
    motivates me to speak to you.

    First of all, I would like to say that your war with us is the
    longest war in your history and the most expensive for you
    financially. As for us, we see it as being only halfway
    finished. If you were to ask your wise thinkers, they would tell
    you that there is no way to win it because the indications are
    against it. How will you win a war whose leaders are pessimistic
    and whose soldiers are committing suicide? If fear enters the
    hearts of men, winning the war becomes impossible. How will you
    win a war whose cost is like a hurricane blowing violently at
    your economy and weakening your dollar?

    The Bush administration got you into these wars on the premise
    that they were vital to your security. He promised that it would
    be a quick war, won within six days or six weeks; however, six
    years have passed, and they are still promising you victory and
    not achieving it. Then Obama came and delayed the withdrawal
    that he had promised you by 16 more months. He promised you
    victory in Afghanistan and set a date for withdrawal from there.
    Six months later, Petraeus came to you once again with the
    number six, requesting that the withdrawal be delayed six months
    beyond the date that had been set. All the while you continue to
    bleed in Iraq and Afghanistan. You are wading into a war with no
    end in sight on the horizon and which has no connection to your
    security, which was confirmed by the operation of ‘Umar al-Faruq
    (Var.: Umar Farouk), which was not launched from the battlefield
    and could have been launched from any place in the world.

    As for us, jihad against the tyrants and the aggressors is a
    form of great worship in our religion. It is more precious to us
    than our fathers and sons. Thus, our jihad against you is
    worship, and your killing us is a testimony. Thanks to God, Almighty, we
    have been waging jihad for 30 years, against the Russians and
    then against you. Not a single one of our men has committed
    suicide, whereas every 30 days 30 of your men commit suicide.
    Continue the war if you will.

    (TN: Two lines of poetry that say the Mujahidin will not stop
    fighting until the United States leaves their land.)

    Peace be upon those who follow right guidance.

    We are defending our right. Jihad against the aggressors is a
    form of great worship in our religion, and killing us means a
    high status with our Lord. Thanks to God, we have been waging
    jihad for 30 years, against the Russians and then against you.
    Not a single one of our men has committed suicide, whereas every
    30 days 30 of your men commit suicide. Continue the war if you
    will. Justice is the strongest army, and security is the best
    way of life, but it slipped out of your grasp the day you made
    the Jews victorious in occupying our land and killing our
    brothers in Palestine. The path to security is for you to lift
    your oppression from us.


    From Vox:

    The Vanishing Letter
    Osama bin Laden wanted to speak directly to the American people. An undated letter promising endless war is one of hundreds of documents collected in the May 2, 2011 raid on his compound in Pakistan that was released Wednesday. The full text is below.

    However, the full text of the letter was not actually provided by Foreign Policy. Two lines, highlighted below in bold italics, were omitted with the following note.

    (TN: Two lines of poetry that say the Mujahidin will not stop fighting until the United States leaves their land.)

    Even more intriguing, The Guardian just disappeared the page on which the letter had been published for the last 21 years.

    Removed: document
    Wed 15 Nov 2023 21.19 CET
    This page previously displayed a document containing, in translation, the full text of Osama bin Laden’s “letter to the American people”, as reported in the Observer on Sunday 24 November 2002. The document, which was published here on the same day, was removed on 15 November 2023.

    There can’t be much doubt as to why Bin Ladin’s “Letter to the American People” is being disappeared, in light of the recent Hamas attacks, the Israeli invasion of Gaza, and the rush of US men and material to the Middle East. The neocons in the US and UK media are obviously attempting to prevent the pro-Palestinian side from presenting its perspective to the public, and more importantly, they are trying to hide the material link between the past US military defeats in Iraq and Afghanistan with the present US military presence in Syria, Israel, and the Eastern Mediterranean Sea.

    I doubt it matters in the slightest. As even the ADL has reported, the youngest generation in the West is solidly against the Israeli position in the Gaza conflict, while only the Boomers generally support it. While the Millennials and Generation X are more balanced – or in the case of GenX, characteristically apathetic – neither of them are even remotely interested in fighting anyone in the Middle East for any reason.

    But there can be little question that this is an all-hands-on-deck situation for the neocons, so it will be very informative to observe which public figures fall in line with the demands of the Narrative, and which ones are not being controlled.


  • Anne November 16, 2023, 8:45 AM

    With regard to the “northern lights”. We have experienced them in a very very big way. It was mid October a cold night but no snow yet. We lived in an isolated valley, financial times were hard. DH saw the light first and then kapoW! There they were surrounding us, touching the ground, and dancing around our place for more than an hour! We walked out into the light and it was like some scene from a SCI FI movie. Multi-colors were beautiful. But, it was the sound that was so interesting. THERE IS A SOUND and don’t ever let anyone tell you otherwise. I know there must be some scientific explanation, but I have not found it yet. We felt so lucky because of the way the light came and enveloped us and stayed for so long! Oh and by the way–we don’t do drugs and didn’t have enough money for alcohol!

  • SK November 16, 2023, 9:48 AM

    Dear Anne,
    I’m not very good at linking things so I hope this works.
    The sound, which I have also heard, was when I heard it like a concert of teeny tiny twittering birds.
    The video in this link explains how the highly charged particles streaming off the sun enter our atmosphere at the poles, where the magnetic field is strongest, and collide with oxygen and hydrogen molecules creating the luminosity, and also noise.


    They are a joy to hear and behold.

  • John A. Fleming November 16, 2023, 11:51 AM

    Here’s a story about an older gentleman who went with his dog on a mountain climb/hike in Colorado near Pagosa Springs, who got lost and perished, and his loyal pup stayed by his side for three months until found by a hunter.

    We don’t deserve dogs.

    The guy started from the west towards Blackhead Peak, and my assumption is he was supposed to return the same way. He either got lost in the clouds on the mountaintop, or lost by nightfall, and started going down to the east, farther away from his car and ended up all the way down into the Rio Blanco drainage to the east. That’s why the rescuers couldn’t find them, he was miles away on the wrong side of the mountain, with no road or trail anywhere near. Probably died from exposure. I can imagine that. I’ve been climbing/hiking on the high peaks, got in the clouds, started down and stupidly missed the way I came up and started down a different ridge. As I kept going down, I eventually realized that it was not the same way as the ascent, but I kept figuring I could get back to my trail lower down and so kept going. It’s easy to get lost in the mountains. Take one wrong turn, keep going into the unknown, instead of backtracking back to known terrain start blundering around looking for the way, get more and more confused, and then darkness or weather catches up with you.

    • ghostsniper November 16, 2023, 12:19 PM

      Most unfortunate.
      Glad the mutt is OK.
      Is it better to die like he did, or rot in a medical facility?
      Think I’d prefer the former, but not take my mutt with me.
      No sense in putting her through that.

    • Casey Klahn November 17, 2023, 4:53 AM

      Hi, John.

      Mountains have geography, like anywhere else. The common places to get lost are where you may follow the fall line (if I roll a basketball down the slope it follows the fall line) but the route you need is on a tangent, or big glaciers or snow fields with subtle or all-the-same types of features. You memorize your map and routes, and use that visibility compass or err intentionally to get to your landmark terrain. Visibility helps, but lots of things can get in the way of visibility. Otherwise, on recognizable terrain, if you don’t know what ridge line or top or drainage you’re in, you done got lost and can’t read a map. That’s like getting in a car that hits on half its cylinders and driving up onto the freeway, only you don’t know how to drive or the rules of the road, and you can’t use the stick. It’s suicide. Here in Washington we have the added whammy of needing to know rope techniques because you might plunge into a crevasse, and we have actual bad weather – not that shit that pretends to be bad in Colorado.

      Sorry to go negative; I wasn’t there so I don’t know what happened. Too bad for the guy and his dog.

      • Casey Klahn November 17, 2023, 5:11 AM

        That comment was typed damn near perfect, except this old iMac transposed an additional “visibility” – the first one before the word “compass”. Omit that word, and the whole thing should read clearly.

        I’m re-watching Band of Brothers, and some of the supporting documentaries. When the actors are doing some military training, they are trying map & compass, and making that old mistake where you try to make the terrain fit the map. It’s ‘sposed to be the other way round.

      • Snakepit Kansas November 17, 2023, 5:15 AM

        I was north of De Beque CO some 20+ years ago elk hunting. I was hunting up on a mountain and near dusk started heading back to camp. At one point I could actually see down a deep draw and view our camp fire in the distance. It was getting darker I’ll be damned but couldn’t remember which ridge I needed to follow to get back. The terrain didn’t look the same with long shadows. The draw I could see camp from was such a steep grade down there was no way I was going to try that. I ended up taking a wrong path, then realized it. I didn’t panic, got my wits and backtracked to the correct ridge and found my path. Found my way back but that would have been a cold night on the mountain with the light jacket in my pack. I did not have matches or a lighter. Stupid.

        • ghostsniper November 17, 2023, 6:52 AM

          I kept thinking about that story last night, and now you’re mentioning no matches required me to comment. The old dood in the article was not prepared for his eventuality. Perhaps familiarity misled him.

          Several times a year my wife and I take on a couple of the trails in the Brown County State Park. All are fairly easy, and vary in length from a mile to I think about 7 miles. My wife always has a small butt pack on and I have a small backpack with what I consider to be essentials. An army poncho (my wife has a civvy version in her pack), an 8′ x 8′ tarp, 100′ of paracord, a foldout saw, a Sawyer filter, 10 paper towels in a ziplock, basic FAK, etc. I always have a Bic in my pocket when I leave the compound as well as a folder knife and AA flashlight and a few other useful things. Oh yeah, my S&W M+P in my pocket with 2 xtra mags and we both have a 32oz stainless steel water vessel w/ s/s cup.

          That pack weighs about 10lbs and is essential in my opinion. Once when we were on a trail the rain came up and the ponchos came in handy. We both wear baseball hats on the trail too and proper boots. If I had been doing what the guy in the article was I would have had a more substantial pack, and maybe the little mutt would have one too.

        • John A. Fleming November 17, 2023, 1:17 PM

          We’re supposed to take the “Ten Essentials” always when out and about in the wilds. I try and get the young folks I work with to do that. It should be a fanny pack or other small pouch that always stays in your main pack. The exact count of items vary, but should include: emergency poncho/raingear, survival blanket, firestarter, compass, first aid kit, flashlight, signal mirror, whistle, 50′ of line/bankline/paracord, knife/multitool, a few granola bars or equivalent, maybe water purification tablets, plus your preference on other things.

          I’ve started down the wrong way a number of times, especially when moving fast, but quickly realized the error and recovered. Sometimes I forgot to stop and look behind me on the way up, so as to memorize the way-down landmarks. Altitude dulls the thought processes, and clouds can be disorienting. I looked on Google maps, Blackhead peak is the high point along a N-S ridge. No, if it wasn’t deliberate, that guy got seriously confused, which means for me he was in the clouds, and his wits were dulled by age/exhaustion/dehydration, and kept plunging ahead and down hoping he would strike the trail. I’ve felt that encroaching sense of fear/dread/confusion when the way I’m going stops feeling the like the way I came, he must have had that feeling big time or not at all, and against all reason just decided to keep on keeping on. Maybe he had a medical event that aggravated it, it can happen as a person gets older. When you are beginning to think you are lost, you are supposed to STOP: Stop (and calm down, have a swig), Think, Observe, Plan.

          I only climbed occasionally in the lands of big crevasses/snowfields, didn’t always bring a compass when I was young and indestructible, I guess I though I could never get lost. Nah, just never got benighted or seriously in the clouds in a featureless landscape.

          • Snakepit Kansas November 17, 2023, 4:10 PM

            Mr. Fleming,
            Thank you for your wisdom.

  • Anne November 16, 2023, 2:26 PM

    Dear SK:

    Thank you so much! That is what it sounded like, also later as the intensity started to fade it sounded kind of hummmy! It was wonderful! Glad you also got to enjoy them up close.

    • SK November 16, 2023, 11:17 PM

      Hummy. What a wonderful descriptive word! Thanks for that. I’ll store it away for future good use.

  • Anne November 16, 2023, 2:38 PM

    A favor, please.
    Gentlemen, I need clarification on an issue that we are experiencing here in my state. Several years ago our democratic leadership approved allowing anyone to have complete open access to your real estate file. Now, in the old days open access required walking into the courthouse and looking up the address and other accompanying records. Today, however, it is much easier and legal. All you have to do is pull up in your car and sit in front of a property that may or may not have an address sign on it. Out here in the country, we don’t post addresses on our gates. But you, or anyone, can use your locator app on your phone and pull up the GPS co-ordinates–with that information, you can dial directly into the county courthouse records. You can pull up info as far back as the date of the original homestead. You can see all who owned it since then and how much they paid for that property up to and including the current owner. Oh, about that current owner, you can also pull up their private phone number and current residence and also the name of their spouse. You can get all that information on your cell phone or iPad just sitting out there in your car.
    I have tried to pull up information about particular addresses (daughter’s) and you cannot pull up the background information online in her state. In another state, I couldn’t even get into the records.

    Favor please: would you please go online to your county records office, or treasurer’s office and see what info you can find about your own property? Any insight as to how this “open records” strategy is played out in different states would be very helpful. I don’t need any personal information, just need to know if it was possible to gain entrance to your info with only the GPS, or street address. If so, how much information did you access?

    Thank you for your help!

    • ghostsniper November 16, 2023, 5:23 PM

      All that info is available as you’ve described, here in Brown Co. IN and Lee Co. FL.
      As Joe said, it varies by county.
      What is your issue with it, solicitations?
      If a property has sold in the past few years there is a good chance there are outside and interior pictures on Zillow, or Redfern, or Realtor.com
      Zillow interior pix is how I found out the people that bought our FL house tore up $17,000 of maple hardwood flooring and put down bullshit tile. And they painted all the pristine white-white walls that foul tan-beige-whatever color that has been popular with people that are brain damaged. Grrrrr….. serenity now!

      • Snakepit Kansas November 17, 2023, 5:25 AM

        JAJJJAAA!!! Good hardwood floors are beautiful and easy to clean. I pulled up all the carpet in the upstairs and put down prefinished 3/4″ hardwood. Not the laminate stuff. I think it is red oak. Once the carpet was pulled up I couldn’t believe all the debris that was on the subfloor. Swept it, vacuumed it and then mopped it to get it all up. Yuck. Took my time and pounded down all that new flooring over the next few weeks. My right arm looked like Popeye’s by the time I was done. The dog didn’t like the noise and would always want to go outside once his master, Thor, got busy. I cannot imagine someone in the future replacing the flooring with tile.

    • Snakepit Kansas November 17, 2023, 5:44 AM

      I have had close to a dozen calls over the last year with some various half-wit having a story about having a buyer for my house. He wants to appraise it and make me a cash offer that week… or some other bullshit story. Yeah, they want to find someone in money trouble and buy their house with a lowball offer. Same thing with my old Caddy. Some car dealer says they have a buyer for my car and want to make me an offer. Pffft. It is a six-speed manual which means nobody under 50 knows how to drive it. Recently I got a call that appeared to be from some small town in western Kansas and again, someone wants to buy my house. They had a slight accent which told me she was Filipina. There are all kinds of call centers in the Philippines. Their AM/PM is almost a 180 degree flip with our s in the US, so they work all night calling the US for various things. They are good and hard working people for sure. Filipinos speak very good English, and it is very common. Regardless, I picked up on the accent and spoke to her in the local language, Tagalog, she hung up on me.

      All the calls can be annoying. Public records and computer access…..

  • Joe Krill November 16, 2023, 3:15 PM

    Anne, In Pennsylvania the information you can access depends on the county you are in. Some counties do not display the basic information on the net regarding who, what and when the property was bought it but other counties do. But all PA counties will give you that information if you go to the county courthouse and visit tax mapping and then the recorder of deeds. In PA it is public information.

  • Anne November 16, 2023, 5:33 PM

    Thank you Gentlemen! That is exactly what I thought was going on! Does anyone here have access to a GPS on their phone or iPad? I want to see how easy it is to access!
    Thank you again for your help.

  • ghostsniper November 16, 2023, 5:37 PM

    Elon Musk: “You have said the actual truth.”
    He has lots of “fuck you money”. lol

  • Joe Krill November 17, 2023, 4:33 AM

    From: What Really Happened
    Data scientist Tony Seruga weighed in on the ghost-bus issue.
    “My partners and I have been lifetime data scientists. We own the digital ID of every mobile device/computer in the U.S. and have indexed and archived every IP address in the world. Our extensive experience in big and deep data, including geotracking and geolocation makes our dozens of data companies the top authority for providing data to corporations, law enforcement and U.S. government agencies like the CIA, NSA, DoD, DIA, NGA, NRO, FBI, as well as Interpol and foreign intelligence organizations. There are a number of videos documenting these ghost buses as well as a number of mostly nondescript DOJ vans that dropped off ninja wearing individuals that appear in other videos to have breached the Capitol cutting fencing, removing barricades, opening doors, and other nefarious behaviors,” Tony Seruga said on X, formerly known as Twitter.
    “We also tracked the infamous J6 ‘pipe bomber’ from one of these vans. Later, we eventually tracked them to a Virginia Metro station where a perfect capture of their vehicle license plate was made. The FBI has ALL of this information. Shortly after they were alerted, however, AT&T mysteriously ‘accidentally’ corrupted that and only that particular cell phone user’s data. Additionally, their mobile device was used hundreds of times before and after J6 accessing keycard required DOJ/FBI parking garages and buildings,” Tony Seruga said.

  • Anne November 17, 2023, 8:54 AM

    Thank you again. Snakepit thank you!

    My problem is that they can gather this information while sitting in their car outside of my gate! In the pre-internet days they would have had to go to the courthouse in person to find that information. I don’t mind having the ownership information available to the public in the county courthouse. That is fine, what I mind is it being available on the internet to anyone with a cell phone and GPS app. I think this is one example where the use of computers/internet have created a dangerous situation rather than supporting safety AND pubic information.
    I have another question: do you suppose I can sit in a car outside of Nancy’s house and acquire all this information? How about my state senator, or Diane Feinstein’s family? Is all of their information so easily accessible? I doubt it!

    • Snakepit Kansas November 17, 2023, 4:21 PM

      You seem to be a very nice woman and a much better person than me. God bless you.

      As for sitting outside Nancy’s house…..some people are more equal than others. People like you and I probably do not qualify. One day the gates around her house will not protect her from the hordes of unknown illegal aliens she invited into our country. Shit hits the fan and she can dial 911 and get a busy signal. She can grab her AR15 for protection…..let them eat cake!

  • Anne November 17, 2023, 8:56 AM

    If an owner wanted to make the access available online wouldn’t it be possible for the county to set up a situation so that the owner’s file could be accessed by password, one that was available to the mortgage holder? This way the people who have a right to this information can still have easy access.

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