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  • Casey Klahn October 13, 2023, 8:06 AM

    awww. He’s living a dog’s life.

  • sharksauce October 13, 2023, 8:14 AM

    Great pic. Goddammit, I love dogs.

  • Anne October 13, 2023, 8:24 AM

    “I Love Dogs”.
    Yesterday morning (Thursday) about 0700 PDT, the BBC had a picture on it’s main page of a group of Israeli soldiers in full tactical gear sneaking around a house. One of the soldiers was carrying a little white Maltese dog! He must have found it and rescued it. The picture did not stay up for very long and now I can’t find it. But it was so good to see!

    • Terry October 17, 2023, 6:41 AM

      The reason the dog disappeared from the BBC posting is this: M*slims hate dogs. I cannot relate to you here just how cruel the religion of peace monsters are when dogs are the subject.

  • Casey Klahn October 13, 2023, 9:19 AM

    Since my comfort was discomforted by this little nugget, I’ll ruin you all’s days with this, too.

    I ordered some fancy French pastels and paper from near Seattle, which is something I do several times a year to feed my habit. Damned things got lost in the USPS, tracking went dead, and when I tried to open an inquiry, the SOBs closed my account sign-in provilages on the USPS website.

    Long story short, I get back in after an hours-long phone tree ordeal, and a conformation of my search comes in from my local small town post office. Now, you gotta understand that my town is smaller than Mayberry. It’s sort of like Petticoat Junction small. Well, a bit bigger, More like: Hooterville, Pixley, Crabwell Corners, or Stankwell Falls from the TV shows. It’s rural AF. So, you’ll be as interested as I when I read the name of the new Post Master in town! It is a hyphenated African and Italian and African name! Let’s just cut to the chase – he ain;t from around here. He’s a diversity hire!

    Remember when the shipping went totally to hell in California, and there were little vid shorts of debris piles of undelivered washing machines, large screen TVs, Amazon packages, etc., all on RR sidings in Orange County? Ladies & gentlemen, your US govt., under Joe Biden.

    I can trade pictures for horses and ride to get my supplies. I can burn wood. I don’t reload but neighbors do and I can barter. If you’re in the city, God bless you but you’d better have a plan. Think: Escape from LA type stuff. Because my small town PM is named: Qwaeezaayy Replard-N’Foomay. Or something very similar to that. He hails from that long line of local farmers here in rural eastern Washington, the N-Foomays.

    • ghostsniper October 13, 2023, 10:24 AM

      Take a look at this:
      https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=637701955161114&set=pb.100067639450101.-2207520000

      The one on the right is the new (1 year) police chief.
      Can’t see it in that pik but the right arm is incased in full length tatts.
      The one on the left is the assistant.
      A total of 5 officers, 3 of them females.

      The rumor is that all levels of gov’t now are about 60% diversity hires.
      Stop in at a VA hospital sometime, you’ll swear it was much higher.
      You’ll be looking for the MLK corridor.

      The gov’t has always been a clusterfuk due to unaccountability, irresponsibility, and grift but all of that is going to get much much worse with the massive influx of <70 & PMS.
      People better get their affairs in order and become as self sufficient as possible.
      The collapse is coming full speed from all directions and it's only a matter of time.

      I suspect the whole thing will eventually drag itself down under the shear weight of itself.
      Parasite are very heavy under the best of conditions and when taken in by gov't, even more so.
      Everything will grind to a halt and the people hired to keep things moving will simply be unable to do so.

      When the checks and EBT cards stop the fires will start en masse.

      If you live in an urban area I'd normally tell you to get out.
      But this rotten assed gov't has been working overtime for the past 10 years to infect all of the rural areas with their horrifying disease.

      Suffice to say, you're going to have to fight and I mean with tooth and claw and under the very worst conditions you can imagine no matter where you are.

      Everything you know about the horrible times in past world history will pale greatly compared to what looms before us here in the US.

      Truly, the perfect storm awaits.

      • Casey Klahn October 13, 2023, 11:00 AM

        O hell, those cops! I wonder what their OF links are?

    • jwm October 13, 2023, 3:25 PM

      Vox Day has put it quite succinctly:
      Import X, become X.
      Biden and the donks are importing the third world as fast as they can cram them in here, and shove the diversity down our throats. We’ll become Somalia, Haiti, Venezuela, Guatemala, and fifteen flavors of islamic “culture.” America was nice while it lasted. Short of some seriously violent pushback, it will not survive another generation.
      We grew up with the promise of a Jetsons future. That promise has been squandered on those incapable of creating or sustaining a first-world civilization. I hate to even think this, but our only cause for optimism is that most of us won’t live long enough to see the end result.
      Have a nice day.

      JWM

  • ghostsniper October 13, 2023, 12:02 PM

    Here we go again, another instance of the new normal.

    Over at Kunstlers place they’re questioning did any of it even happen?
    Where’s the proof?
    https://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/all-this-and-world-war-too-3/

    Quote from the comments:
    “Granted, I have not seen all the videos out there, I just haven’t seen anything that proves the paraglider story yet.”

    Seems some people have noticed that some of the trashed cars along the roads are the same ones that were seen along the roads in the Hawaii fire.

    One more reason why I can’t get too worked up over stuff that “supposedly” happened way over there. Nobody over there can touch me.

    The most important threats are those closest to you and you better get a grip on it.

    No part of the media or the gov’t is your friend, ever.

    Rely only on long term trusted sources online, if anything at all.

  • ghostsniper October 13, 2023, 12:28 PM
  • ghostsniper October 13, 2023, 12:43 PM

    I don’t know man.
    If I hadn’t been down that road a couple times already, (and I haven’t) I prolly would have pulled the trigger early on.
    I don’t take well to threats.
    But then, maybe she could say that too.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3N8-hLtciZo

  • ghostsniper October 13, 2023, 1:46 PM

    Roof Lantern
    =========
    Ever heard of a Roof Lantern?
    I didn’t think so.
    In Florida, where I design dreams, they are frequently called clerestory windows.
    Last year I designed a large “roof lantern”, about 30′ x 30′, on the top of the 2nd floor of a large custom crib I designed for a supposedly famous sports talk radio host. I don’t do sports and I never heard of him prior.

    Anyway, in general, I think the same of roof lanterns as I do for skylights, widows watches, sky decks, and all other roof penetrations. I’m mostly indifferent to them, but that might change if I was very wealthy. See, anytime you have a roof penetration you have a higher risk for failure and when a roof penetration fails not only is it catastrophic but the cost to repair is on the moon. We have a Velux non-operable skylight in our master bath on the 2nd floor and I don’t like it. In the summer it’s too hot and in the winter it’s too cold. It has the remote retractable cover but it is meaningless.

    Take a look at the roof lanterns and consider your opinion thereof.
    Nice stuff.

    Roof Lanterns here:
    https://renaissanceconservatories.com/roof-lanterns-2/

    Clerestories here:
    https://www.google.com/search?q=residential%20clerestory&tbm=isch&tbs=isz:l&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS914US914&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CAIQpwVqFwoTCMiYx9nt84EDFQAAAAAdAAAAABAD&biw=1903&bih=969

    You can see a widows watch on a 100+ year old house I did a complete historic restoration to.
    This one is a few doors down the skreet from another restoration I posted awhile back.
    https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/8201-Main-St-Bokeelia-FL-33922/45495407_zpid/?

    The story is that the widow was committed to watching the sea every day hoping upon hope to peer at the visage of her long lost captain again…

  • ghostsniper October 13, 2023, 2:20 PM

    Innocents
    =======
    You’ve seen this sort of thing many times, I’m sure:

    “The media, the public, and prominent political figures condemned the students for rationalizing atrocities against innocent people, including women, children, and the elderly.”

    Are men, these sad days, automatically considered to be guilty and thus deserving of anything bad that may come to them? What are they guilty of, just being?

  • Joe Krill October 13, 2023, 4:32 PM
    • ghostsniper October 13, 2023, 5:31 PM

      Think we’re being conned Joe?
      Is there anything in the last 50 years that this rotten assed gov’t has NOT lied about?

      • Joe Krill October 13, 2023, 7:24 PM

        Nothing!
        We’ll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the US public believes is false. William Casey

  • DT October 13, 2023, 5:12 PM

    Apropos of nothing much, I’m off tonight/early tomorrow morning to view the eclipse come mid-morning. Need to burn about 2/3 tank of gas to get to a suitable point along the maximum line … then a wander deeper down into the desert to visit some old stamp mills rotting away with time. A fair weekend road trip, eh? If it’s not cloudy.
    Hold the fort down til I get back, OK?

    • ghostsniper October 14, 2023, 3:42 AM

      k

    • DT October 15, 2023, 4:10 PM

      Clouds! Who puts clouds in front of an eclipse? I did get some images through rare cloud breaks though.
      I see ghostsniper did indeed hold down the fort for me.
      I also see FJB didn’t croak this weekend.
      A 50-50 weekend.

  • Casey Klahn October 13, 2023, 9:21 PM

    OK, so they dint behead the babies. But did they fly overhead and attack the Rave Music Festival, point blank shooting youngsters and taking hostages? No? What about the house to house and killing and taking hostages? No, also?

    Gimme a break, hoss. Not sure but I think I’m seeing footage of Jordanians rushing the border with Israel and being opposed by Jordanian troops with non-lethal, and also watching Lebanesezgers climbing the gawdamned fences like a scene from World War Zombie, to get into Israel to: immigrate. Straighten me out on that one, if you can.

    For those who care to listen I’ll say the following. So far, no one’s minds have been changed by the Hamas attacks on either side. After the IDF concludes its ops in Gaza, they will withdraw and things will go back mostly to what they were before. Some administrative policies about Gaza will be made – who knows? Meanwhile, tanks and infantry will crawl into Gaza, taking out specific targets which include kinetic military forces of Hamas, command and control nodes, and supplies. Then, they will get the hell out of Dodge.

    Now let’s get large for a second. Why 2 carriers? One carrier is a show of force, but what is 2? Two is: defense against Russian fuckery possibly from Syria.

    • ghostsniper October 14, 2023, 3:40 AM

      After the media-gov’t has lied to you about everything for years how in the world do you still cherry pick what they are telling the truth about? Can you explain that?

      I, nor you, can validate any of what you wrote in your comment above.

      Believe what you want but I will always hold out for the truth and it must be verifiable.
      T’was ever thus.

      • Casey Klahn October 14, 2023, 6:03 AM

        Deductive reasoning alone will leave you blind, when you most need your whole senses to predict what’s next. How about try inductive reasoning? It’s a thing.

        Be agnostic about the news all you like. I’ll be goddamned if there aren’t 2 carriers in the Med and I’m using logic to figure out why.

        I made my whole hunting career by knowing where the deer and coyote were, just by watching their behavior and incidence over time. I was often correct and would go straight to where they were. It’s not rocket science, but it does require careful observation.

        I don’t need the daily news to tell me Hamz live in a fenced in shithole of their own making. I got history to tell me that Christians put Jews in ghettos and pressed them to be bankers, then turned around and shat on them for usery.

        Looks to me, and I think you’ll agree on this one (not that I care, but anyway) the world is in the midst of a world war that involves mass migration, all illegal. The guys negotiating and facilitating the illegal migration are the evilest sonsabitches there are, and hell bent on driving us into ghettos. I’m a bit skeptical, but Poland looks to be having none of it. Maybe also Romania, and to some extent, Italy (although their geography ruins things for them). Xhina and japan are so moncultural that you can’t fit a knife blade between their eth nic defenses. Mao was very specific about his desires of watering down the Caucs to weaken them. Monoculture is a pupe dream and doesn’t interest me in the least, but borders are required things.

        You could learn a lot just by looking at the monumental fencing Israel has completed in the past few years. What I see of that is remarkable and an engineering marvel.

        • ghostsniper October 14, 2023, 6:57 AM

          I’m going to bail out of this subject.
          I’ve never been to the ME and don’t know anyone that has so I have no direct means of truthful information, AND, I’m not really interested.

          You and I seem more common than different and that is why our conversations can be civil, as long as we understand the limitations. We all have lines in the sand, though today it seems, most people have no idea what that even means, nor care.

          Corollary
          You know how, in pictures of people holding a fish that they caught they hold it out to the full length of their arms toward the camera making the fish seem larger than it is, in proportion to the person holding it. It’s a distortion and a distraction.

          You seen the local pik I posted the link too yesterday.
          That stuff is a red flag in my book.
          There are a dozen or more red flags, in my 20 mile radius AO, and growing all the time.
          Let me put an even sharper point on it.
          Within the past year I saw with my own naked ass eyeballz a woman wearing a burka standing along the side of the road, MY ROAD!, about a mile from me, trying to get a cellphone signal. Through the grapevine I found out the neighbors that live there have a college aged daughter and she participated in that thing where she goes to a foreign country and her parents host a student from a foreign country.
          Yes, they are WELL inside the wire and the hairs on the back of my neck resemble a porcupine.

  • Anne October 13, 2023, 10:27 PM

    After years of watching the Israeli media “draw me a picture”, I hesitate until I see a photo that can be confirmed by several good journalists. Otherwise–the beheaded babies . . .

  • Snakepit Kansas October 14, 2023, 4:44 AM

    Anne,
    Good luck on finding any good journalist. I know you are not naive.

    Casey is right. 1,300+ Jews got killed, by whatever means is not the point. I am doubtful that Gaza is going back to normal after this is over and I do not think it will be over soon. Among the Arabs, the people in Gaza are like a drunk and violent step-cousin that relatives don’t want to come over for dinner. Nobody in the middle east wants their refugees. Iran is involved and probably is gambling on hopes of multiple fronts opening on Israel. Iran drew aces and eights and will eventually get Old Testament retribution. The Jews are not going to let this go.

    Stay strapped and avoid crowds.

    Peace sells, but who’s buying? – Dave Mustaine

  • ghostsniper October 14, 2023, 6:39 AM

    Your Hot Tip Of The Day
    =================
    Peace Dollars
    Bet you never heard of them.
    I hadn’t until a year ago.
    Limited printing in the 20’s and 30’s.
    BIG FAT SILVER DOLLARS 90% pure

    I just got in another 10 pack I ordered this past Mon.
    5 day turn around, free shipping.

    As I sat here at my desk yesterday fondling these 10 silver dollars I tried to imagine a time almost a century ago when it wasn’t uncommon to have 10 or more of these big coins in your pocket, as well as a host of other coins. I carried coins in my pocket from the time of being a teen in the 60’s until about 20 years ago. Now, when I receive change at a store it goes right into the console in my Blazer. Prolly a hundred dollars worth in there right now, but I have no idea really.

    But yeah, that’s why all men wore tightly cinched belts back then. Because the coins were so heavy! If you didn’t wear a belt you’d run the risk of being arrested for indecent exposure.

    Back to the hot tip.
    JMBullion has the Peace dollars in stock and the price varies as per they quality, quantity, and method of payment. I never buy the best nor the worst and get a quality in the middle. Because silver coins are so heavy I never buy a lot at one time and hope to not pique anyone’s interest. In the 30+ orders I have placed over the past 2 years there have been no problems.

    You can see the Peace dollars I purchased here:

    https://www.jmbullion.com/peace-silver-dollar/

    For rough general tabulation I think of a 9% silver dime as a three dollar bill in value.
    A silver dollar would then have a value of 10 dimes, or $30.
    Just a rule of thumb.

    Further, if you consider today a loaf of bread costs about $3, that translates into 1 silver dime.
    So, back before 1913 you could buy a loaf of bread at a store for a dime.
    See how far this rotten assed gov’t has watered down (inflation) the money supply?
    What costs $3 today only cost 10 cents 110 years ago. (30 times as much)
    If this continues unabated (it won’t) in 2113 a loaf of bread will cost $90.

    • ghostsniper October 14, 2023, 6:41 AM

      90% not 9%

  • Casey Klahn October 14, 2023, 9:31 AM

    I’m looking at a pocket slingshot in .38 alpha charlie papa. RoogRR 101. Alloy, 5 round cylinder. The idea is it goes in there with the small change but it’s frequently with you rather than skipping it altogether.

    I like using the same round z I already have shootrz for. The other tactic, tho, is increasing the breadth of caliberz since you never know what you’ll find at the sutlers and what you won’t find.

    I still don’y have my cowboy rig for the heavy artillery (six inch) but it’s like finding the perfect fit for your bunyon feet. Unfortunately the solution is going to be buy, buy, buy until the right one is gotten.

    • ghostsniper October 14, 2023, 11:25 AM

      Unless you know someone, that looks like about $600 worth of party.
      Yes, you have to put your hand around it to see how it fits.
      No big deal if it doesn’t, just buy another.
      But if money is tight its best to get it right the first time.
      I’m fond of buying from people I know personally.
      Gonna talk to someone later today about a teeny clock in 9 mike mike.
      Yeah, I’d like to have a cowboy 2 piece rig in four-five.

      • Casey Klahn October 14, 2023, 4:18 PM

        I’ve tried Kydex and belt rigs and currently use a leather holder that goes on a wide street wear belt. FSR leather has always been what’s comfortable for me.

        I think the retail on the slingshot is $560-ish and I got some other hardware from the same guy and store. It’s been tough as hell because I one-time held a Ruge in my hand that was balanced and less than 4″, and I did not make the purchase decision. That was a decade ago, and none has felt right in my mitt until this one. Usually women’s grips are inadequate and I cannot tolerate the loss of grab, plus the imbalance of the whole. This one has the right grip, and yet it’s still pocket-ready. Adjustable rear sight if I’m not incorrect.

        If I don’t buy her this time I’m fooling myself. A plus: she don’t hole ster she drops in yer pocket.

        • ghostsniper October 14, 2023, 5:29 PM

          My little beretta is perfect for the pocket, all the corners are rounded.
          If you get in the market for kydex take a look at vedders.
          I’ve purchased 3 complete sets, holsters and extra mag holders in the past year.
          https://www.vedderholsters.com/
          guten lukken

          • Snakepit Kansas October 14, 2023, 9:38 PM

            You two bait me into replying…. I like the little Beretta’s and had a tree80 Kimber too. Unfortunately I do not shoot them well at 10 yards. I am not a big guy (5-7, 168) but commonly carry a full sized G lock 17. Nobody ever notices the inside pants carry, and I shoot that Roscoe so much better than a pocket pistol. Acquiring 9 mike-mike is much easier than tree80, plus cheaper…and a bonus of a bigger welt put on some deserving loser.

            • ghostsniper October 15, 2023, 4:21 AM

              In the distant past a friend showed me the teeny Kimber .22 he bought for a packet toy. I didn’t like the way it felt in my hand. Too “square”, but thought I’d get over it with use, so I went to the gun store to get one. Once there, I saw the little Beretta Bobcat and tried it on. Like I said, it was round, no corners, and slid in and out of the pocket easily and could not catch onto anything. Even the molded-in front and rear sights were rounded over. When I go to the big city the Bobcat is in my pocket and the big Beretta in it’s kydex is stabbed down between the console and passenger seat.

              Met with a gun buddy yesterday and I may have talked him into selling me one of his small glox, forget the model, 17 I think. He has a bunch of them and that model is his EDC. After the fact, his EDC is rounded over, heavily stippled, all moving parts perfectly mated, it a working machine always ready.

  • ghostsniper October 14, 2023, 9:32 AM

    “For The Love Of God”
    Steve Vai

    Probably the best guitarist that has ever lived.
    Transcend.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2V9yqfXIf4&list=RDF2V9yqfXIf4&start_radio=1

    • Denny October 14, 2023, 1:04 PM

      Sorry Ghost but ever since my son started playing heavy metal in the
      90s, this is exactly what that crap still sounds like to me. –

      https://www.youtube.com/shorts/O_G7W3p_GE8?feature=share

      • ghostsniper October 14, 2023, 2:55 PM

        How you can associate an industrial shredder and heavy metal with Vai is beyond me.
        To each his own it’s plain to see.
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvSLONArzEk

        • Snakepit Kansas October 14, 2023, 9:44 PM

          Stumbled onto Joe Bonamassa recently. World’s best kept secret guitar player.

          • ghostsniper October 15, 2023, 2:57 PM

            He’s well worth listening too.
            First heard of him from a fellow 6 stringer in Los Angeles about 5 years ago.

          • Mary Ann October 16, 2023, 10:11 AM

            YES! I found Joe B 12 years ago in the middle of the night. Long story short…Fell asleep with the tv on and woke up to his Royal Albert Hall Concert . (One of those PBS membership drives.).
            “Happier Times”.

  • Anne October 15, 2023, 10:16 AM

    FWIW
    Today is Sunday about 11:00 AM Spectrum Internet is out doing repairs for neighbor. Guess who is doing the work? If I told you it was a person whose English use is a little more Spanish than English would you believe me? Where are our young white American men, or did the gov’t give money to Spectrum do you think?

    • ghostsniper October 15, 2023, 1:53 PM

      That whole scene is terribly depressing Anne, and it’s been a long time coming.
      Over the past 20-30 years the entire construction and maintenance industry has been converted to of the ESL genre. I saw this big time back in 2002 in southwest FL when I was building our new house. I saw another facet of it again in 2006 when I was trying to get my workshop-office built here in Hoosierville.

      2 things are happening simultaneously.
      1) The white workers that are capable of doing acceptable work have priced themselves out of the market except for the very wealthy that don’t care about cost.
      2) The ESL workers are everywhere and are affordable but can only offer 3rd rate quality at best, and communication even in it’s most basic form is deplorable.

      Two extremes with very little middle ground.
      I have a fairly large construction company as a client in FL that is in the process of closing down right now because they cannot find acceptable subcontractors that are available and materials cost have went through the moon.

      Then there is the 3rd side of the larger picture.
      This past week I received a rejection notice from the building dept for a small commercial project I am working on in FL. It’s a brand new building that has never been occupied and my client is a chiropractor with very minimal alterations to the existing building. The bldg dept had THREE PAGES worth of rejection items that need to be addressed before they will issue a bldg permit.

      Lemme tell you something. In the past 30 years I have done a lot of work in FL, several thousand projects, and its been at least that long since I have seen that many failed items on one set of construction documents.

      Also, keep in mind, this set of plans was submitted for the permit process back in June of this year and here it is Oct and they are just now releasing the rejections. FOUR effen months. Again, unheard of.

      I made a few calls to people I know down there that have a lot of boots on the ground and they are telling me the same thing. The whole system is grinding to a halt under the unbearable weight of bureaucracy. Red tape. Rules upon rules upon rules and the only people benefitting are the gov’t employees.

      That company that is shutting down supplies about 1/4 of my yearly income, so yeah, that ripple effect is far reaching.

  • Anne October 15, 2023, 1:42 PM

    Oh and BTW. I only purchase internet from Spectrum up until last month that one service alone cost $79
    per month. Today it is $93/month for just internet.

    I started to apply for that government discount you can get for internet, but guess what . . .? The government (Federal of course) wanted waaaay too much information for me to continue the application.

    The Catholic church under this pope is dedicated to land re-distribution. Our lovely liberals in control of the government are searching for and gathering much more information about you and your property. Be very careful about any contact you have with the gov’t–even the VA is demanding more information about your personal income and real estate than before.

    Here’s one for you one of our Federal land agencies just showed up in the valley with $20 million to improve the landscape. The landscape in this valley is postcard-perfect and the views are known worldwide. The guy in charge of this project is from the Jewish community and I am wondering if this “improve the landscape” will be put on the back burner until things settle down in Israel ? Maybe this money is just an effort to get the smaller land owners to sell? The question remains why in the world does the government care about improving an already perfect landscape?

    • ghostsniper October 15, 2023, 2:07 PM

      Your idea of “improving” and the gov’t idea of “improving” are not even in the same dictionary.
      You’ve described your idea and I can picture it in my minds eye and I like it.

      The gov’t idea is more akin to that of a 3rd world country but costs untold billions of stolen dollars.
      How about a low income housing project with about 1000 units?
      Maybe they’ve determined the area would be ideal for a massive errant human restraint system, what would normally be called a prison complex?
      A national drug treatment facility could provide a place for thousands of new diversity hires.

      When the gov’t approaches with boatloads of money the usual dimwit rolls over showing it’s tender underbelly and will jump through every hoop to get as much of it as possible, but what a sane, honest, thinking person should do is yank out some Winchesters, flailing chains, and burning tar pots.

  • Anne October 15, 2023, 2:03 PM

    I looked up the “professional consultants” firm that this guy works for. Here is a link to the company that is managing 20 million for the government to come in and do what with regard to our landscape?

    https://kearnswest.com/about-us/leadership/

    • ghostsniper October 15, 2023, 2:20 PM

      Their entire top end appears to be all white people, but (more below linked text)….

      From their site:
      The practice of equity and inclusion is fundamental to our work at Kearns & West. Our Equitable and Inclusive Engagement Team is integrated into projects across all our services areas, including water, energy, community planning, transportation, and environment.

      Equitable and inclusive engagement is not only about ensuring that diverse perspectives are at the table but also that deliberate actions and targeted strategies are taken to ensure that underrepresented and vulnerable communities participate and contribute definitively in decision-making. Making meaningful progress on clean environments, health, housing, jobs, transportation, open space, and equitable education requires community-based dialogues. We recognize that the most innovative, comprehensive, and viable solutions happen when there is equitable participation.

      ….they went from being race traders to race traitors in one fell swoop. The whole lot need to be gathered and gutted, then burned to a fine white ash and spread to the 4 winds. Their day is coming. The burn off will be glorious.

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