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once the needle goes in it never comes out


It’s not a “homeless” crisis, and it never has been. The world “homeless?” That’s sheer propaganda to keep the Fountain of Funding gravy flowing. It’s a junkie crisis. These people don’t live in a world without homes, they live in a world full of open-air drug markets. Most love it that way. Some say they want to leave but “It’s just not the right time for me.”

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  • Mike Austin October 20, 2021, 9:43 AM

    Good Lord. I really had no idea. I’ve known drug addicts and “homeless”—after all, I lived in Portland for 30 years—but nothing like this man: well-spoken, self-aware, and not at all a fool.

    “There’s a hole in daddy’s arm, where all the money goes…”

    Heroin addicts speak of “a monkey on their back”, as if their addiction were a living thing, parasitical and murderous.

    His three wishes were those of a normal man in his situation.

    So what’s to be done? I have no idea.

  • gwbnyc October 20, 2021, 10:10 AM

    here’s the secret- junkies shoot dope because they want to. here’s the rest of the secret- you stop doing it. eight days aint a lifetime.

    guy about to shoot another guy up: “if I do this, you’ll always want to do it, and you’ll never stop doing it”

    guy: “go ahead and do it”

    -LC is an old acquaintance.

    • TrangBang68 October 20, 2021, 2:45 PM

      Agreed, cravings are intense when the opioid receptors are activated but it ain’t that hard to get off. Be dope sick for a couple weeks. Hell, you can medically detox with suboxone and taper off. The key is you have to figure out why you’re so freakin’ hapless and hopeless that you want to stick a needle in your arm.
      America’s problem isn’t drugs and violence and degeneracy. It’s a spiritual and moral void that only God can fill.
      You want to talk about beastly drugs that will eat your soul, methamphetamine is the heavyweight champ.

      • Mike Austin October 20, 2021, 5:30 PM

        “America’s problem isn’t drugs and violence and degeneracy. It’s a spiritual and moral void that only God can fill.”

        The entire problem in a sentence.

        A nation that serves Moloch is a certain type of nation. A nation that serves the God of Abraham and Isaac is another.

        • gwbnyc October 20, 2021, 7:50 PM

          +1 both above.

          • Vanderleun October 20, 2021, 8:59 PM

            Ditto.

        • Fletcher Christian October 21, 2021, 3:14 AM

          Substitution of one drug for another.

          • Mike Austin October 21, 2021, 3:41 AM

            No. A man who chooses God walks from the shadows into the Light. He can now see.

          • james wilson October 21, 2021, 12:09 PM

            Even if your silly meme from a demonstrably dispicable philosopher were true, why is it not all good were an addict to trade opium for religion?

  • Roll-aid October 20, 2021, 10:22 AM

    What you tax, you get less of.
    What you subsidize, you get more of.

    The Romans knew this.
    We haven’t figured it out yet. Or at least admitted that to ourselves.

  • Walter Sobchak October 20, 2021, 10:42 AM
    • Walter Sobchak October 20, 2021, 10:51 AM

      Neil Young “I’ve Seen the Needle and the Damage Done”

      Lyrics
      I caught you knocking at my cellar door
      I love you, baby, can I have some more?
      Ooh, ooh, the damage done

      I hit the city and I lost my band
      I watched the needle take another man
      Gone, gone, the damage done

      I sing the song because I love the man
      I know that some of you don’t understand
      Milk blood to keep from running out

      I’ve seen the needle and the damage done
      A little part of it in everyone
      But every junkie’s like a setting sun

      ===================================

      The man is guitarist Danny Whitten, Young’s Crazy Horse band-mate who passed away almost a year after the recording of this album.

      Neil tried to get Whitten to clean up his drug problem and finally had to fire him from the band. Young gave him a ticket home and $50 cash. Whitten then spent them on pure heroin, which brought about his demise.

      • Skorpion October 20, 2021, 5:19 PM

        Neil Young also wrote the song “Tonight’s the Night” about his roadie Bruce Berry — another victim of the needle:

        https://youtu.be/RTGjVvQPVWg

  • Anonymous October 20, 2021, 10:49 AM

    1943? I thought addicts died young

    • gwbnyc October 20, 2021, 1:41 PM

      known several who shot dope off and on for decades, lived into 60’s-70’s.

      • TrangBang68 October 20, 2021, 2:46 PM

        William Burrows says hello

        • Mike Austin October 20, 2021, 5:31 PM

          Was that before or after he shot his wife in the head in Mexico?

          • gwbnyc October 20, 2021, 8:01 PM

            he did the william tell thing more than once, but that was the last time.

        • gwbnyc October 20, 2021, 7:59 PM

          met him once, kinda. bartender at One University place called me and said Burroughs was sitting at the bar, sunday night no crowd. so I went over there and sat a seat away from him while he and the bartender talked for a couple hours- that was it. I met his son once in NYC, too.

          at that, the bar owner, mickey ruskin, died of an overdose that year, make it 1982. he owned Max’s Kansas City in the heyday.

          • Vanderleun October 20, 2021, 9:00 PM

            Max’s. One of my favorites. Had one of those booths. Best after 3:00 am

            • gwbnyc October 21, 2021, 5:13 PM

              I was late for its real heyday. I still have some friends, acquaintances who were regulars- you might remember Ronnie Cutrone, a Warhol “associate”. passed away awhile now, but always a riot.

      • Walter Sobchak October 20, 2021, 8:51 PM

        David “Fathead” Newman played alto sax with Ray Charles for many years. He was a junkie for most of his adult life. He died at 75 from pancreatic cancer.

        • Vanderleun October 20, 2021, 9:01 PM

          Lots of old, nay ancient, opium smokers and many, many old junkies with access to money and heroin of a known purity.


        • james wilson October 21, 2021, 12:36 PM

          Charley Parker, a great musician famous for music and equally for herion addiction, started in his mid teans. When he lost his regular and dependable supplier he quit around the age of thirty. He was well aware of the fate of many careless contemporaries. His life fell apart as he died of alcholol use within four years. Addicts are addicts.
          I knew well an extremely experienced addict, a working musician, who had become clean. He said heroin is the easiest to leave, speed in any form the worst. Theodore Dalrymple wrote that in his practice he overheard many herion addicts saying the same thing to each other when they came to his office to wheedle a script from him–it is easy to leave, relatively, but even if you did you would go back to it because it is the greatest you will ever feel and why worry, since you can always leave it. That’s the devil’s deal.
          You can live a long and productive life on heroin. Most heroin addicts don’t because they are the self-indulgent personalities.
          Nobody lives a long life on speed.

          • Mike Austin October 21, 2021, 2:03 PM

            A jazz musician on heroin? Oh no! Actually, it would be hard to find one who at one time or another was not on heroin. My favorite: Chet Baker. Died at 58. Heroin and cocaine were found in his body. Listen to what was and can never be again:

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zrSoHgAAWo

  • enn ess October 20, 2021, 11:05 AM

    Same can be said about feral handouts. Once you start feeding at the trough you are addicted, it being extremely hard to wean yourself from being given what others have paid for. Feral handouts ALWAYS have strings attached, Always have under any form of gumint throughout the history of human civilization.
    The only way out is to be dependent on only what you can produce and provide for yourself or others around you locally. With the caveat that once someone else provides anything you need, you are then not dependent on only what you can provide for yourself. (extremely hard to do). We all need society, and the services or products others provide. Remember, those products and services gummints provide, FIRST came from those around you that provided those services or products. Gummint has and own NOTHING. Cut them out of the equation, Simply say not only NO, but F***no, now shove it and pedal your BS elsewhere.

    • Mike Austin October 20, 2021, 11:11 AM

      Once the government handouts begin, they never end. Ever. They develop their own constituency with politicians playing along. They become “entitlements”, something that no politico dare touch.

      “Once the needle goes in it never comes out.”

      The solution? There is none.

      • ghostsniper October 20, 2021, 11:47 AM

        Well Mike, I’m a dreamer.
        I think they will end.
        But then, I’ve been thinking that for a long time now and they just keep happening.
        I’m hopeful…

      • Walter Sobchak October 20, 2021, 9:15 PM

        @Mike: “The solution? There is none.”

        No regime lasts forever. Often they go bankrupt. When that happens, their creditors have no recourse.

        • Mike Austin October 21, 2021, 12:42 PM

          “No regime lasts forever” is certainly true, but it says nothing about how the end comes. If by bankruptcy, then one must ask, “Moral or financial?” Perhaps the first must precede the second.

          It is popular these days to predict America’s decline; indeed, scarcely anyone can be found who says things like, “There will always be an America!” As if simply by stating it, that it will come to be. Some folks think that if America would only “return to her foundations” that things will be set aright. When I hear this fantasy I simply do not have the heart to explain that the moral, spiritual, intellectual and physical components that made America into a great nation no longer exist in enough quantities to reclaim that glory.

          Adam Smith wrote, “There is a great deal of ruin in a nation.” I would say that America has far to go before her decline becomes absolutely irreversible and clearly evident to all. Then it will be a case of simply picking over the corpse.

        • james wilson October 21, 2021, 12:47 PM

          1913 cannot be properly estimated. With that single act government learned over the next century there were no limits to what it could do other than the harm it was doing. Both people and scociety were once regularly slapped down every twenty or thirty years, justly and unjustly. The Invisible Slap has been absent for several generations now. When it comes it will be a whopper.

          • Mike Austin October 21, 2021, 1:29 PM

            1913: that damned Wilson Administration. Many evils came from that. Many evils. And Wilson was a nasty little prig to boot.

            Wilson…LBJ…Clinton…Obama…Biden: What new rough beast will slouch toward Washington next?

  • PA Cat October 20, 2021, 1:39 PM

    “Once the needle goes in, it never comes out . . .”
    No wonder the gummint is hooked on COVID boosters– the initial jab is never enough.

    • Mike Austin October 20, 2021, 2:01 PM

      Now that is one excellent point. The “powers that be” are already talking about “boosters” numbering 3 and 4 and 5. Permanent COVID, all COVID, everywhere and all the time. To paraphrase Il Duce:

      “Nothing against COVID. Nothing outside of COVID. All within COVID.”

    • David October 20, 2021, 2:13 PM

      “Once the needle goes in, it never comes out . . .”
      Exactly

      • TrangBang68 October 20, 2021, 2:49 PM

        Actually, the recovery literature for decades has cited a phenomena called “maturing out” where heroin addicts stop and get permanently clean in their thirties because it’s a tough job hustling up a fix all day every day

        • David October 20, 2021, 3:02 PM

          I was actually referring to the poisonous concoction they call a “vaccine.”

    • Terry October 20, 2021, 7:00 PM

      How many “Boosters” for the v*x are planned by the pharma creeps/gov creeps before the patient becomes addicted to the Boosters? By plan of course. And at that time the additional boosters are $250 and not free any more.

      This gov and its fascist allies are the lowest sewer dwellers in the history of the world.

  • jwm October 20, 2021, 3:48 PM

    I remember Tommy, Leslie, Steve. Two very cool guys, and a gorgeous young woman. I liked all of them a lot. Slept with Leslie more than once. They were all cool enough to try it, and, of course, they are all of them several decades gone. I attribute the fact that I never had the opportunity to my harried, and quite overworked guardian angels. Lord knows there were times I’d have been stupid enough. I do not, in any way, speak figuratively of the angels, or the Lord who sends them.

    JWM

    • Mike Austin October 20, 2021, 5:37 PM

      My own Guardian Angels—I don’t know their names or I would have used them—have been and are working hard to: keep me alive; and, keep me from Hell. If they were of the world, they would be kept up nights figuring how to do both. I don’t mean to make it hard for them.

      • james wilson October 21, 2021, 12:54 PM

        Yes, I had those boys throwing pixie dust in my path for thirty years before I recognized it for what it was the first time. Fortunately they do not require gratitude to keep at it, although I have been told they appreciate it.

  • Auntie Analogue October 20, 2021, 4:10 PM

    The interviewer neglected to ask that junkie parasite the most important question: “Where, how, do you get the cash to pay for the heroin you inject into your veins?”

  • Dan October 20, 2021, 5:47 PM

    An addicted coworker of mine described his first use of cocaine as being the most wonderful experience of his life.

    He said he then spent the rest of his life and fortune trying to get that initial feeling back. It never came.

  • Dan October 20, 2021, 5:54 PM

    By the way, there is another popular euphemism in circulation besides “homeless.”

    “Mentally ill.”

    A judge spoke to our group. She kept referring to the massive cadre of mentally ill homeless people in our little city and their need for help. I asked her, “What percentage is due to drug use?”

    She admitted a very high percentage have burned their minds out via their drug use.

    How does a person recover a destroyed mind?

    • Jack October 21, 2021, 9:12 AM

      That one is easy….contribute to the united negro college fund; you know, those bozos who claim a mind is a turribuh thing to waste.

      • james wilson October 21, 2021, 12:55 PM

        Some minds are a terrible waste of things.

  • Snakepit Kansas October 20, 2021, 5:58 PM

    I had a freak accident about 2003, slipping off a ladder an got impaled in the back of the thigh with a sheet metal L shaped shelf bracket. I got morphine at the ER. They sewed the muscle together then sewed the skin up. I got prescribed pain killers and when I got home washed the first two down with a High Life. WHOA! That was when I found out about how opiates can make you feel.

  • Dirk October 20, 2021, 6:59 PM

    We are a nation of weaklings, you wanna slam dope, go for it. We haven’t seen over doses like what’s coming with these new poly drugs, Fentanyl, it’s bigger brothers. Anybody purchasing Street dope right now literally playing with fire.

    Synthetic narcotics, make the other street dope, child’s play. China builds it, offs it in Mexico, the Mexicans mule it across, and the cartels and gangs market it.

    It’s up to us, to clean up their fucking mess. Calif, Oregon, Washington states,,,,,,,Street drugs are legal, what a shit show.

    VI
    ,

    • andre October 20, 2021, 9:15 PM

      A brother in the Lord was telling me today that a friend of his overdosed on fentanyl. Miraculously someone came and gave him mouth to mouth resuscitation. I think he was taken to the hospital. Ten minutes later a truck veered off the road and ran over his tent. The man, a Christian, stated that he knew he had to stop “messing around.” God is speaking to people in the street.

      • Vanderleun October 20, 2021, 9:17 PM

        Well, it’s about time they listened.

  • Anonymous October 20, 2021, 11:36 PM

    https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2021/11/the-new-meth/620174/
    or
    https://archive.md/cBAjO
    It’s an article in Atlantic about how meth with a different process burns out minds much sooner and more thoroughly. Those treating them say it takes months just to get these addicts back far enough to figure out who they really are. And this is what is behind the homeless explosion in cities.

    Could be. There are certainly a lot of people running around with that skin-stretched-over-skeleton look that is characteristic here in Phoenix. And this is where the stuff comes across, or west of here, between Yuma and El Centro.

    And the description of how labs have changed from a motor home out in the desert (because the labs smelled so bad) to a modern industrial building with pallets of chemicals stacked 30 feet high, well, it seems very different. Goodness knows we are treated every few years to oh-my-God-this-new-drug-is-worse-than-the-last-worst-drug stories.

    • james wilson October 21, 2021, 1:00 PM

      A relative spent nine months in a voluntary clinic. The addicts comprise of three quite seperate groups.

  • Gordon Scott October 20, 2021, 11:38 PM

    That meth comment was me.

  • uglykidmoe October 23, 2021, 10:50 AM

    this is the sole reason for addiction. period.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZaGjlniwjE

    • Mike Austin October 24, 2021, 3:22 PM

      Astounding. Really. Dr. Maté spoke at length about addiction without a word about the spiritual source of it. Addiction—to pornography, to drugs, to booze, to sex—is a demon. That is why heroin addicts speak of “a monkey on their back”—because for the simple reason that there is a monkey on their back. It has little or nothing to do with whatever abuse the addict suffered as a child. Out of the millions who went through horrific childhoods, hardly any end up addicts. There is something else going on.

      Also astounding: Dr. Maté went on and on without giving any possible solution to the addicts’ horrors. He thought simply asking them questions was a good thing.

      Good God.