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Let’s Review: Tell us again how concealed weapons don’t stop massacres

One innocent person killed. One critical. One maniac put down with one shot.

And then the rest of the congregation’s guns (4? 6? 8?) come out.

[Alternates from the New York Post to the censored Youtube video above.]

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  • John Connor December 30, 2019, 7:39 AM

    The book “Left of Bang” is applicable here. The seconds prior to the POS pulling out the shotgun were critical yet no one reacted till after.

  • lpdbw December 30, 2019, 7:47 AM

    “This video has been removed for violating YouTube’s Terms of Service.”

    I suspect the reason it’s removed is because it shows American heroes doing American things.
    Google/YouTube hate that.

  • BarbaCat December 30, 2019, 7:48 AM

    Sure didn’t take long for YouTube to take it down for “violating” their “terms of service.”
    I was able to view it once, tho. Then…gone.

  • John Venlet December 30, 2019, 7:51 AM

    John Connor is correct about those early seconds. When the hoodie wearing perp first stood up, mid-service, and started fiddling around, those church members tasked with security should have been moving on the perp. Not necessarily with guns drawn, but aware that the perp was not acting in a normal manner during that particular portion of the church service. A missed signal.

  • Tom Hyland December 30, 2019, 8:10 AM

    As of 9:00 am MST you can view the video at whatfinger.com the link is below. Fuck youtube… long live free and available information. Youtube doesn’t want anyone to see how quickly the armed security guard took out the freak. One shot. There’s other clips available of Joe Biden say, “it doesn’t make sense to allow armed citizens inside churches.”


  • Tom Hyland December 30, 2019, 8:47 AM

    The link I provided is more complete than the new one coming from the Mail online. The whatfinger link has sound and shows the full sequence of as it happened whereas the Mail online edited out in its entirety the assault and the one shot that ended it all.

  • ghostsniper December 30, 2019, 11:33 AM

    Don’t matter if they stop massacres or not, my guns and everything else I own are MINE and nobody gets to say anything about it.

    I mean really, wtf is it with people these days, thinking they get to determine stuff about other people?

    I think just about everybody needs to mind their own business and if they do they’ll find out it’s a full time job that doesn’t leave any time for the minding of other’s.

    IOW, if you are minding MY business then you are necessarily neglecting your own and therefore susceptible to getting your face punched in.

  • Donald Sensing December 30, 2019, 11:37 AM

    I am an ordained minister in the UMC. In my last appointment I carried a 9 every weekday because our preschool did not have a ground level exit. I refused to carry on Sunday because I could not bring myself to stand in the pulpit and preach the Gospel of the Prince of Peace while armed. I may have to re-think that.

    However, that church did have two active federal officers, one city detective, and two retired LEOs and they all carried on Sundays.

  • John Venlet December 30, 2019, 12:00 PM

    Donald Sensing, while I respect your sentiments regarding carrying while in the pulpit, I think the Gospel of the Prince of Peace makes it incumbent upon you to carry at all times.

  • Douglas K Dryden December 30, 2019, 1:51 PM

    Luke 22:35-38

  • DrTedNelson December 30, 2019, 2:17 PM

    YouTube needs to be removed for violating America’s Terms of Service.

  • Tom Hyland December 30, 2019, 2:40 PM

    Beto O’Rourke… remember him? He’s still out there talking about the bad bad guns. Can’t get rid of them and all one can say is it was perfect that the security guard had a conceal/carry.

    Here’s an interesting list of famous folks who are or were licensed to pack heat… Phil Spector made the list… someone probably should have asked that guy more questions before they waved goodbye.


  • Snakepit Kansas December 30, 2019, 3:49 PM

    Church service FFS. Let’s not get critical on performance of church security. I doubt they do regular drills and anticipate every possible situation, and that was not downtown Baghdad. Looked like a bunch of geriatrics, and only a handful would be armed or even remotely anticipate some dude in black clothing to come in and start shooting folks. I carry at church and can only pray I would get off a good head shot like that under duress. Yes, I carry at church and yes I practice.

  • Tom Hyland December 30, 2019, 4:25 PM

    The “geriatric” who took down the church murderer is a 71 year old named Jack Wilson. Used to own his own firing range and what can one say? True, this ISN’T Baghdad and nobody expects such a freakish moment but Jack moved in quickly and he’s got a few words to say about it…


  • ghostsniper December 31, 2019, 4:45 AM

    What do you call a place where you have to be armed every time you leave the compound?

  • Snakepit Kansas December 31, 2019, 6:02 AM

    Ghost, I call that WalMart

    Tom, no disrespect meant to the church of elderly folks. I’m not young myself, any longer. I thought the noodle shot from the elder gentleman was impressive.


  • Casey Klahn December 31, 2019, 9:08 AM

    Good discussion. Interviews of the church members inform that the security did have their eyes on this turd the whole time. He did present fast, and the first respondent got the shotgun load forthwith. Hero. he gave the numerous others the opportunity to draw and respond; as it was the gun instructor who made the kill did so at what is long range for a concealed handgun.

    I’d say it was almost textbook, except now the text book needs to start filtering for potential shitz like this one. Profile.

    Reminds me of the heroic long pistol shot at the cartoon convention in TX.

    Reminds me of the mass shooting at the small church near New Braun.

    FFS. When Virginia blows, it appears my state is not just in the next tier, but it is actually on deck for the next round of gun ban mania. Shiiiit.

  • Christina Manning January 7, 2020, 6:26 AM

    The one time I did not carry, while getting my hair cut at a hair salon, I missed becoming a hostage by only a few minutes. I was at the vet office next door when the disgruntled, soon-to-be-ex husband walked into the salon I had just walked out of and took everyone hostage. He was shot by an off-duty deputy in the salon. After that incident, I always carry. 24/7. I avoid places that prohibit guns whenever possible. I, and many others in my church, carry during the Mass. It was me, who escorted the last intruder out of the Mass, during the Mass, when he tried to rush the altar a few months ago. This latest church shooting video has made me realize that I need to work on my speed and accuracy. Cor meum vigilat.