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A Woman for All Seasons: The New Prime Minister of Italy

The dawn of sanity starts to rise over Europe. As noted in American Digest’s header above, “Duty. Beauty. Liberty. Country. Honor. Family. Faith.” Faster, please.

Found via the invaluable Ann Barnhardt who notes (not without reasons) This is the new Prime Minister of Italy. If she is sincere, the Freemasons, sodomites, and Antichurch (but I repeat myself…) will try to kill her. | Barnhardt

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  • Rob De Witt September 27, 2022, 9:54 AM

    OT, perhaps, but…..
    This is gonna be fun to watch, too.


  • Casey Klahn September 27, 2022, 10:32 AM

    Perhaps because they’re an old people, or perhaps because they’ve felt the hot breath of commie activism at close range, the Italians are conservative. Many of them-well, the 30-something % who voted Meloni in and probably double that, are hip to the UE and the criminal dealings of lefty politics.

    Of course, she’s center right, and that makes her next to Mussolini on the political spectrum, for those who observe from so far out in left field that their t-shirts have Che and Lenin on them. Anything to the right of them is stop-the-world unacceptable and fascist.

    For them, borders are fascist. Kids and family: fascist. Coca-Cola: fascist. Cats: fascist.

    I bet she’s to the left of Trump. Anyway hey, wouldn’t you kill Mussolini if you saw him today? Wouldn’t that be morally correct?

    Almost a year ago this board was saying that NATO expansion was provocative (which is illogical). Now, the Italian street mobs who are their version of Antifa will see the Fascist PM as a provocation for violence. They’re bullshitters of the first order. For them breathing air is a provocation. Marx demands everything of them, and everything will include murder and political violence, and subterfuge.

    Already I read on Twitter that her election victory is “apparent”. That’s weasel for: the election was stolen by Fascists. Goddamn, that’s ironic. I thought elections were only challenged by conspiracy Trump nuts.

    Did you hear how Trump people are going to kill you for having an abortion? That’s a conspiracy. Don’t ask me how I know; just a hunch.

    My dad’s unit, in North Italy in 1945, got a hair’s breadth close to capturing Mussolini. When they stormed his Northern Ville, the in-exile dictator was gone, and the eggs were still warm on the plates. Days later, the German SS who were guarding Mussolini and Clara Petacci saw the communist partisans closing in on them, and slyly took one step back and let the mob grab the dictator. Rather than let the US Army capture him, they allowed the commies to get him. He and Clara were strung upside down in the public square, and riddled through with bullets, like Bonnie and Clyde. All this to say, commies will commie, and if there’s one thing they hate, it’s a damnedfascist.

    Maybe the takeaway is that if center-right politics is ever to return, it will be hand-to-hand combat at some point in time.

  • BillH September 27, 2022, 10:52 AM

    Let’s give her several months, or maybe a year+ and see how it’s going. Unfortunately, when Obama says, ‘Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to (expletive) things up’, the Right far too often says, ‘Hold my beer’.

  • Note September 27, 2022, 10:55 AM

    You need to change her name as given above (“Anne”) to “Ann”, which appears to be correct. My browser could not come up with her website (it went round and round). It finally produced the website when I searched “https://www.barnhardt.biz/” (or simply “barnhardt.biz”). What a great speech! Want an example of courage? That is it. I hope she does not pay the ultimate price.

    • Vanderleun September 27, 2022, 11:30 AM

      Done my helpful one, but I do note that the citation has the attached link which takes you directly to the site.

      • Note September 27, 2022, 1:20 PM

        Did not work for me on my browser. I did not take time to try other browsers.
        Ok, I just clicked on your link again, and it took several seconds of circling to finally produce the website. Maybe something about my browser or computer, but it’s unusual. I tend to be suspicious of censorship over the web.

        • Vanderleun September 27, 2022, 3:19 PM

          It’s not censorship. The Barnhardt biz site was going up and down for unknown reasons this morning. Should be sorted by now.

  • SteveP September 27, 2022, 11:41 AM

    “the Freemasons, sodomites, and Antichurch (but I repeat myself…)
    Barnhardt is willfully ignorant. Masonic principles and teachings are the opposite of “sodomites and Antichurch”. The principles of Freemasonry are the very principles the Prime Minister is espousing in this speech.

    • jwm September 27, 2022, 1:53 PM

      Ann is a convert to the Catholic church. I’ve read her mention being in Job’s Daughters when she was young. My family were all Masons on both sides, although some were Catholics as well. I know you can’t be both. I never had it explained to me how that ended up being, and they’re all long passed, now. I was the last in the clan to go through the Blue Lodge.
      Masonry in America goes back to George Washington, and the founding fathers.
      The Masonry most of us are familiar with is small town lodges, and their charitable work. Too, it was part of the good old boy network in business and politics. I have been led to understand that it’s quite a different thing in Europe. Very hostile to the Catholic Church. Beyond that I know very little. I asked the Catholic priest at the local parish about it once, but got only a vague answer. Obviously, there is a long long reach from Centerville, Mid West, to the corridors of power and influence. Ann can be a little like Vox Day when she has an enemy on the radar. Difference is in the ratio of Truth to BS. VD runs maybe 30% T. I rate Ann up in in the high 90’s.


      • Vanderleun September 27, 2022, 3:18 PM

        I was once someone who paid a lot of attention to Vox Day but then I discovered what an unremitting asshole he was. And what an envious little SOB too.

        • jwm September 27, 2022, 3:24 PM

          Truer words seldom spoken. VD plays the enemy game like a nine year old girl.


          • ghostsniper September 27, 2022, 5:29 PM

            I try to ignore his childish side, and I check in at least daily.

        • Mike Austin September 30, 2022, 9:58 AM

          His writing today just shows how petty and envious he is. Good Lord, what a little man.


          • jwm September 30, 2022, 1:22 PM

            Taking a shot at Z man wasn’t the best idea he ever had.
            These guys roast Humanity’s Greatest Genius over an open flame. (from the Z blog)



            • Mike Austin September 30, 2022, 3:13 PM

              The Z Man is probably the hardest working guy in the Blogosphere.

              I could not get through the video because of the constant use of the word “fuck”. I had to hear it daily during my 27 years of teaching. No more.

      • Mike Austin September 27, 2022, 3:51 PM

        The Catholic Church since 1738 has stated many times that Freemasons are automatically excommunicated. You may look up the reasons for this at your leisure.

    • Mike Austin September 27, 2022, 3:48 PM

      “The principles of Freemasonry are the very principles the Prime Minister is espousing in this speech.”

      Umm…no. The opposite in fact. There is little difference between the doctrines of Freemasonry and those of the World Economic Forum.

  • ghostsniper September 27, 2022, 11:59 AM

    Expected timeline:

    By 9/27/22, all referendums for Kherson, Donetsk, Lughansk and Zaporozhye will be completed.

    By late night 9/29/22, Russian Duma will accept or reject referendums, making the regions Russian territory.

    By late night 9/30/22, President Vladimir Putin will address nation, with either an ultimatum or an outright declaration of war against Ukraine.

    After that, any attacks by NATO/EU/USA forces on the newly admitted regions will be considered an act of war on Russia, with corresponding reactions. Given recent history by Ukrainian forces, it is reasonable to assume Ukranian forces will continue to attack/shell the mentioned regions, opening the region to a declared war. This will move the situation from a “special military operation” to a full-on war, with corresponding strategies, weapons deployment, etc.

    This also means that the participation by forces outside of either Ukraine or Russia would be a party to the war, and the countries they represent will be pulled into the conflict, whether by a direct declaration of war by Russia or the participating countries.

    It is reasonable to assume that World War 3 will “officially” commence within the next seven days, at current trajectory.


    • jwm September 27, 2022, 2:05 PM

      This just in from True News over at Gab. TN strikes me as a little sketchy, but…
      Translation –

      The referenda are over.

      The results are obvious.

      Welcome home to Russia!

      -Deputy Chairman of Russian Security Council Secretary Council Dmitry Medvedev


      • Vanderleun September 27, 2022, 3:16 PM

        This means that all of the Donbas becomes Russian and that the formal borders of Russia incorporate those areas. That means that any attack on those areas is an attack on Russia itself. Russian minister has declared that if it is attacked it will declare Ukraine a “terrorist state” with all that implies from Russian Doctrine. The pipeline was probably sabotaged but by whom? Russia? CIA? Who knows at this point? Oh yes, US Coast Guard goes on high alert in Alaska after Russian and Chinese military vessels were seen operating inside international waters but much closer to the coast of Alaska than normal. Russian ministers also note they know “know” US military personnel are operating in or around the HIMARS and that the US is formally in the soup against Russia. And the beat goes on. Telegram is getting to be a very interesting app.

  • wildman September 27, 2022, 12:46 PM

    she is pointing out what hypocrites the elites are. that is her crime.

  • Bunny September 27, 2022, 12:53 PM

    Well, here’s a big wet blanket in case the rejoicing is premature. Nevertheless, thankful for small favors.
    “Italian voters know she won’t change anything”

    “As many have noted, her only political freedom to differentiate herself and her party from other Italian political parties involves the cultural positions which she takes…A close friend of mine who lives in Rome (which is Meloni’s base) and is very embedded in current Italian politics has a different, more jaded point of view which is more aligned with Thomas Fazi’s reporting in UnHerd:
    ‘Meloni has been in the political game for so long – she’s voted for all mandates And for green pass and mandates but as elections approached she erased all of her tweets/posts and started promoting ‘free choice’ – she is not trusted. She was part of the ASPEN INSTITUTE.'” Yikes!

    • Vanderleun September 27, 2022, 3:20 PM

      I’ll take my pleasures when they come even though they may not have the lifespan of a mayfly.

      • John Venlet September 27, 2022, 3:42 PM

        The Ephron lives for 24 hours. Still, better than just 15 minutes of fame, I guess.

    • hooodathunkit October 1, 2022, 9:43 PM

      Italian culture is far more socialistic than we are. Meloni’s made it clear she’s not getting rid of socialism, but of the excesses of the EU (mass immigration), of militant atheism (anti-family), and keeping Italian law (sovereignty) when it conflicts with EU dictates.

      Meloni is conservative in the sense of “conserving Italy as Italian”. But anti-socialist? No, not at all. As someone pointed out, American values aren’t the world’s values, and one-size-fits-all is a mistake; see Iraq or Afghanistan for examples.

      Is Meloni fascist? No. On CNN, Meloni’s opponent (and outgoing PM) Matteo Renzi said [in English!] “Personally, I was against Giorgia Meloni, I’m not her best friend. We are rivals, but she is not a danger to democracy. The idea there is a risk of fascism in Italy is absolutely fake news.” Gotta love the Trump™ reference.

  • Dirk September 27, 2022, 12:56 PM

    You guys tracking the Nord Stream II blowing up? Really you can’t make this kind of crazy shit up. Being and old dog investigator, with little or no research I’d say DC’s finger prints are all over this.

    Why just late last week we, the US had a helo carrier and task force right in that exact same spot.

    These are some evil fucks!

  • Francis W. Porretto September 27, 2022, 2:09 PM

    We all need roots:


  • Casey Klahn September 27, 2022, 2:14 PM

    I saw NordStream II had a leak. You’re saying sabotage? The last rumor about Xi is so far unconfirmed. Rumors or wars, said Jesus.
    Now Meloni is too far right and she isn’t actually right. Well, which is it? I’ll take her at her word for now because the shipt about her is out of control. Twitter should be bish slapt for the shipt they’re saying.

    • Vanderleun September 27, 2022, 3:10 PM

      To paraphrase Caligula, “If only all twitter staff has just one throat.”

      • Mike Austin September 27, 2022, 3:58 PM

        Why stop at Twitter? Facebook, Google, YouTube, ad infinitum. I would extend my list, but I wish to avoid some rando 3-letter agency breaking down my apartment door at 2 AM.

    • ThisIsNotNutella September 27, 2022, 6:35 PM

      Xi Jinping popped up yesterday on the front page of China Daily and every other media outlet in China. So looks like was another Epoch Times = Falung Gong + Gordon Chang Hopeium bong hit.

    • hooodathunkit October 1, 2022, 9:38 PM

      Italian culture is far more socialistic than we are. Meloni’s made it clear she’s not getting rid of socialism, but of the excesses of the EU (mass immigration), of militant atheism (anti-family), and keeping Italian law (sovereignty) when it conflicts with EU dictates.

      Meloni is conservative in the sense of “conserving Italy as Italian”. But anti-socialist? No, not at all. As someone pointed out, American values aren’t the world’s values, and one-size-fits-all is a mistake; see Iraq or Afghanistan for examples.

      Is Meloni fascist? No. On CNN, Meloni’s opponent (and outgoing PM) Matteo Renzi said [in English!] “Personally, I was against Giorgia Meloni, I’m not her best friend. We are rivals, but she is not a danger to democracy. The idea there is a risk of fascism in Italy is absolutely fake news.” Gotta love the Trump™ reference.

  • Steve (retired/recovering lawyer) September 27, 2022, 3:46 PM

    My, a cornucopia of interesting news from all quarters. I love Ann Barnhardt, except when I don’t, which is generally when she goes off on her Roman Catholicity to excess.

    As one raised in the RC Church, then apostatizing and eventually finding Jesus of the Bible (rather than the one concocted by RC heresies) I can take a little of it, but then I find myself muttering demurrers to her posts. Not good for one’s mental health.

    But we are in complete agreement on a lot of issues (“Bruce Jenner is a man. And furthermore I consider that islam must be destroyed” for starters) and she writes with a certain verve that is sadly missing from much contemporary commentary (present company completely excepted).

    As to Theodore Beale, a/k/a Vox Day, I check in on him from time to time, but how seriously can one take someone, regardless of erudition whose living comes largely from comics? I assume his defectiveness when the topic of intellect comes up (which it does frequently, usually resulting in his calling someone who criticized him a “mid-wit” or “gamma.” I also find his frequent “death to Boomers” schtick pretty cloying, but I suppose he is projecting from his own father, who he must hate for some reason, to all people of that age cohort. Kind of feel sorry for him in that, and hope that he finds the forgiveness that the Christianity that he espouses can bring. Enough for now. Carry on, with my continuing gratitude.

    • Mike Austin September 27, 2022, 4:02 PM

      If the Magisterium of the Catholic Church is true, then “taking Roman Catholicity to excess” is a statement irrational and heretical, and those who propose such a belief are damned.

      Hey, don’t blame me. Blame the One True Faith. I did not invent it. A carpenter did 2000 years ago.

      • Steve (retired/recovering lawyer) September 28, 2022, 3:05 AM

        Why would I blame you? OTOH, I am perplexed that someone as obviously intelligent as you is not more skeptical of the authority of The Magisterium, inasmuch as it has been plastering all manner of pharisaical encrustations on what Jesus of the Bible taught. I do, moreover reject your contention that my position on The Church “damns” me. On too many points of Roman Catholic religiosity, I find no Biblical underpinning. Immaculate Conception of Mary? Never even suggested in the Bible, and not officially adopted by the RCC until 1854. Her Assumption? Likewise, nothing to suggest that in Scripture, and not proclaimed until 1950. Transubstantiation? Again, not Biblical but of somewhat earlier provenance, being first officially proclaimed in the Fourth Lateran Council in 1215. I could continue, but won’t, for everyone’s’ sake. As I stated, my RC roots go rather deep, and I studied Church doctrine intently to determine whether I could continue in that faith; I found I could not. Regardless, I will not condemn anyone for adhering to that faith, unlike what you have suggested is my fate, inasmuch as it is clearly beyond the ability of any human, individually or collectively as a “church” to do so. Only The Father has that right, as He is the All-perfect, Omniscient Judge of everything He created. Moreover, I will and do make common cause with anyone who professes that Jesus Christ is Lord, True God and True Man, one in union with The Father, and Who died in atonement for the sins of all mankind, requiring solely faith in Him and His salvific work to be saved from eternal damnation. Romans 8: 1-2 and Acts, 16:31. Peace.

        • Mike Austin September 28, 2022, 3:58 AM

          Did you not get the meaning of “if” that preceded my entire comment? You also missed the tongue-in-cheek flavor of what I wrote.

          All of your criticisms concerning Catholic Doctrine and the Bible have been answered countless times since 1517.

          Your criticisms of the Catholic Faith are common among Protestants—nothing new here. Did your study of Catholic Dogma include books written by Catholic Apologists? At last count I have read 37 books by Protestant Theologians on Protestant Theology since 1996. I know their various doctrines inside and out. The trouble is keeping up with the various Protestant denominations—at last count around 10,000 of them. They all claim to possess the truth. Which one is the correct one? And just so you know, it was a Protestant book, “Mere Christianity” by C. S. Lewis, that brought me to Christianity.

          And also: I consider doctrinal difference between Christian faiths to be a matter for the Holy Ghost, and not for men. The enemy of Christians is not other Christians, but the world. In spite of our different Faiths, we are on the same side.

          And a reminder of what I have written here at American Digest many times: I was a Catholic Apologist for ten years in Argentina (and also the Assistant Music Minister for the English-speaking community of Catholics). I found the endeavor tedious and a waste of time, and I refuse to engage in such here.

          • John Venlet September 28, 2022, 4:15 AM

            …I consider doctrinal difference between Christian faiths to be a matter for the Holy Ghost, and not for men. The enemy of Christians is not other Christians, but the world. In spite of our different Faiths, we are on the same side.

            Amen to the above, Mike, but as Steve alluded to, your statement, even with the “if” at the beginning, “then “taking Roman Catholicity to excess” is a statement irrational and heretical, and those who propose such a belief are damned.”, is at opposition to your doctrinal difference statement, above, and your denigration of individuals whom adhere to Protestant theologies, and do nothing to promote Christian brotherhood as articulated by The Messiah.

            • Mike Austin September 28, 2022, 6:29 AM

              I denigrated no one. It is logically coherent that if—there’s that pesky “if” again—Catholic Dogma is correct then any other religion, though it might contain much of the Truth, does not and cannot contain all of It. The exact same thing could be said about Protestant Doctrine concerning Catholic Dogma. It is an odd case that you criticize me for doing just what Protestants have been doing for 500 years.

              It does no good “to promote Christian brotherhood” if by doing so you are softening the differences among faiths. Such an action treats the proponents of other religions as infants unable to use logic—from the Greek “Logos”: the Word, Christ, God, the Holy Ghost. Logic is thus a function of God, and He demands that men employ this great gift.

              You think I was hard on Steve. I was not. I treated him as a man, as an adult. I treat you the same way. You might not like what I write but that changes absolutely nothing concerning the truth or falsity of it. I am not on earth to be popular. I am on earth—and so are you and Steve—to love God and to prepare your souls to be with Him for Eternity. Nothing else matters.

              • John Venlet September 28, 2022, 9:40 AM

                I am on earth—and so are you and Steve—to love God and to prepare your souls to be with Him for Eternity. Nothing else matters.

                Amen, and Amen.

          • Steve (retired/recovering lawyer) September 28, 2022, 12:12 PM

            Just came back to see how many hornets stirred from the nest, and was gratified to find not hornets, but men of integrity, honesty and conviction. Yes, I mean especially you, M. Austin, who I think would be an interesting, challenging and convivial companion, despite (or perhaps because of) our theological differences. And to further the commonality and trivialize our differences, it was that beer-swilling, pipe smoking Anglican, Lewis whose “Mere Christianity” cemented my faith, even if it did not initially bring me to it. To this day, I can find nothing to challenge his proposition that Jesus offers only three alternative opinions of Himself: liar, lunatic or Lord. I know which one I, and you picked, and am convinced to a moral certainty that this is the correct choice. Via con Dios, my friend.

            • Mike Austin September 28, 2022, 12:49 PM

              Agreed. I was sharing an apartment during my two years of teaching in Costa Rica. The man I shared it with was a preacher’s kid—a ‘PK’ in local parlance. He and I would engage in theological discussions even though I was a relapsed Catholic and probably pagan in my sentiments and actions. He asked me to read a book, “Mere Christianity”. I did so over a weekend. No, that is not quite right: I read it twice.

              The PK asked me what I thought of the book. I told him I hated it. He asked why. I said that the arguments put forth by Lewis were absolutely logical and thus irrefutable. I realized then and there that my entire life was a lie. I could either continue living a lie or I could embrace Christianity. I hate lies. Especially the ones I tell; especially the ones I lived.

              Since those years I have never wavered in my faith. I believed the whole thing at once: the Resurrection, the Atonement, the Trinity—all of it. This is not to say that I was without sin. God knows. But I was never without help.

              I explained all of this to an acquaintance once some years back. He chuckled a bit and said that it must be a crippled man that needed such a crutch. He was astonished when I said he was exactly right. Jesus Christ, the Great Physician.

              We will meet in Eternity, Steve. You and I and John Venlet and Gerard and the PK. Drinks will be on the House.

  • Hale Adams September 28, 2022, 7:49 AM


    At the risk of getting caught up in the mini-flamewar above, I have to agree with Steve — Ann is always worth reading, but she paints sometimes with an overly-broad brush. My late father was a Mason for 40 years (from 1957 until his death in 1997), and he was the sort of man who if there was any hint of immorality associated with Masonry, he would have stayed a mile away from it. I think I read many years ago the Papal Bull prohibiting Catholics from being members of Freemasonry, and I found it laughable at the time — it ascribed all sorts of evils to Freemasonry that did not exist in the version of it that I knew through my father. He once explained it to me that it is not in itself an religion, but an adjunct to religion, teaching (if nothing else) the universal brotherhood of man in a concrete way. (And some of us have heads full of concrete. ** looks in mirror **)

    I have since converted to Catholicism (in 2012) after 50 years as a Protestant born and raised. I might have remained an Episcopalian (returning after many years away from it), but it got **weird** in the 30 years I was away from it after 1980. (And it was already getting a bit weird after they adopted the 1976 Prayer Book.) The Catholic Church, for all its faults — and it has many — at least seems to adhere to the “old time religion”. Mainstream Protestantism, not so much.

    Over the years since, I’ve become more aware of what goes on in Europe, and understand more why people flee the place. If any of you have read the novel “Watership Down”, you may recall the rabbit-warren our heroes visit on their way to find a place for a warren of their own. The warren they visit seemed pleasant enough, but there was definitely something “off” about it, and they came to realize that it was ultimately a place of death. Europe has something of the same sickness at work in it, and we see a little bit of it here in the US.

    I think what will save us is our de-centralized nature — the creeps may seize the “high ground” of the federal government, but it’s worth nothing if they don’t have state and local governments, and we’re fighting back at that level.

    Buckle up – the next few years will be interesting, in the sense of the word from that Chinese curse.

    Hale Adams
    Pikesville, People’s still-mostly-Democratic Republic of Maryland

    • Vanderleun September 28, 2022, 8:47 AM

      You’ll get no argument from me Hale about Ann’s propensity to paint with a very broad brush. She herself has warned being next to her is like being next to a flamethrower. But she is also one of God’s messengers. As we learn in the holy text of the Band’s “The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down” — “You take what you need and you leave the rest….”

      • Mike Austin September 28, 2022, 9:04 AM

        Prophets—and prophetesses—are not acknowledged in their own nation—so it is written in Matthew 13:57. I doubt that those Old Testament prophets were nice fellows eager to please everybody, to “go long to get along”. On the contrary, they were irascible, intolerant and hard boiled, and not prone to put up with nonsense, heresy and blasphemy. And almost every one of them was hated in his own time.

        Sometimes—no, all the time—I think that Ann is begging for Martyrdom. She reminds me of that Christian girl during the time of Nero who asked excitedly of her parents, “When will we be thrown to the lions? Is it our turn yet?”

  • jwm September 28, 2022, 9:49 AM

    Regarding Hale Adam’s comment: one of the more remarkable things about the commenters here is that is a great deal of disagreement on many topics, yet the tone has always remained civil, and the disagreements have not devolved into pissin’ matches. We all know how rare a thing that is on the internet. Maybe give the gang some kudos.


  • Casey Klahn September 29, 2022, 6:34 AM

    Oh well. I guess we’d better give the Donbas to that dumbass in Moscow.
    Sips his soy latte. Shrugs his shoulders.

  • anonymous September 29, 2022, 9:32 AM

    Your conversation has compelled me to reveal something of my personal life that I have always been afraid to speak of before:
    My stepfather was a pedophile of the highest order–he was also a Mason. He never attended church though he claimed to have been raised RC.
    Gosh–feel something calming right now. . .

    Every Sunday morning I was dropped off in front of the local Episcopal Church which was led by a minister from England. A well-read, intelligent, and kind man, he never discussed politics from the pulpit. Every Sunday we listened to him read from the Psalms and one item from the Bible. We were taught that GOD gives us the ability to Reason. I am so grateful for that training–it has sustained me through this life, even after the lesbians destroyed my church I still have all those years of that instruction in my heart, and most of the time it lays the groundwork for my daily intentions ~