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“He who does not believe in God will believe in anything.”

Just when you think there’s nothing left for the deranged brains of the soy drenched progchunks to extrude, this is squeezed out from a joint that bills itself as “Where faith and scholarship meet to reimagine the work of justice.”

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  • John the River September 21, 2019, 10:02 AM

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but that’s paganism.
    Shades of Gaea and her Dryads.

  • ghostsniper September 21, 2019, 10:42 AM

    “He who does not believe in God will believe in anything.”
    =========
    Probably one of the most childish things I have ever read, and embarrassing.
    What next, “If you don’t believe in my god I won’t be your friend.”?
    Pffftttt…..

    The plant worshippers are dumb asses too.

  • John Venlet September 21, 2019, 10:55 AM

    Individuals such as these exemplify the foolishness of the intellectually naked. They have no shame, and their little piece of performance art is an expression of aggressive ignorance.

  • ap September 21, 2019, 12:30 PM

    “What do you confess to the plants in your life?”
    I have not done enough to provide you with sustenance. In particular, I have not done enough to provide you with your second most needed material: carbon dioxide. In the future I shall do more.

  • jwm September 21, 2019, 1:28 PM

    I talked to the cactus. Said I was all sorry for chopping it up. Told it thanks for the mescaline.
    Cactus said, “No prob, Space Brother.”
    They’re more forgiving than you’d think.

    JWM

  • Rob De Witt September 21, 2019, 1:31 PM

    From the former Happy Acres:

    I love women more than life itself, but…
    the feminization of public discourse is driving me mad.

    Feelings! Sharing! Caring! Like being trapped in a kindergarten, or a housewives’ coffee klatch.

  • Auntie Analogue September 21, 2019, 2:50 PM

    The likely root of plant worshippers’ mental illness is that none of them draws a celery from having worked in a STEM field.

  • rabbit tobacco September 21, 2019, 4:18 PM

    you know, there’s also a group that believe in God, but don’t believe God.

  • Jewel September 21, 2019, 4:59 PM

    I knew I’d seen this before: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G880gxjj9dI

  • Bruceph September 21, 2019, 5:28 PM

    Odds are none of these individuals have picked tobacco or cotton or…

  • H September 21, 2019, 6:08 PM

    I confess to my lawn that I did not adequately fertilize, weed, trim and mow it often enough. The end.

  • Nori September 21, 2019, 9:00 PM

    Lettuce not beet around the bush.
    These people are nuts.

  • TrangBang68 September 22, 2019, 5:11 AM

    In reply to ghostsniper,

    It’s not a childish statement. It’s at the heart of the West’s dilemma. As Judeo- Christian transcendent morality and ethics is rejected, all bets are off. Anything goes.As Dostoevsky said “God is dead, all things are permitted”

  • Casey Klahn September 22, 2019, 8:24 AM

    Please let me tell this. God-belief (the Judeo-Christian God) is among the most disciplined forms of thinking there is. Reference: the library. Scholarship on the faith is deep, wide, and weighty.

    Is there any doubt that the wide world of human thought is corrupt? We had it here. A kid (young man of 18) came back to school with a 9mm. He: drug use. Absent father. Troubled about girls. My thoughts are that this kid’s thinking and character are corrupt in the extreme. As an aside, instead of wanting to go get every father’s handgun like some sort of Maoist dictatorship, why not put fatherless students in a camp? It’d be just as dank a move, but far better targeted.

    The gunner was reported and arrested before anything happened. He had made an open threat on sosh media, and a student did report the possession of the handgun. But, she made the report the morning after the game where the kid brandished the handgun. It’s a reminder that kids are immature, and know to report threats but a delay (possibly deadly) happened. We need to teach the schools to add the words “immediately report” into their training. I’d like to see every former lawman and soldier in the school armed, as well.

    Plants! WTF?? There’s belief in anything, and there’s belief is horseshit.

  • ghostsniper September 22, 2019, 8:30 AM

    @TrangBang68
    “…morality and ethics…”
    ===========

    Those things require no god.
    Further, god does not assure “believers” will be moral and ethical, there are more than plenty of examples otherwise.

    The root of the downfall of the west is on the heads of the leaders that suffer little or no consequence for their immoral and unethical behavior.

    If you look at Bill Whittle’s comment on the right —->
    where he mentions failures to obey the constitution, I believe that if that document held fast, consistent consequences for the infractions to it a lot of the problems you see today would vanish quickly. You cannot have rules without penalties. Penalties cause all peoples to consider morality first, and gods have nothing to do with it, in fact, I’ll say gods are a distraction, as evidenced by your own words.

  • Casey Klahn September 22, 2019, 9:19 AM

    Much of what you say is fine, Ghost. One can have morality sans-God, but does it bear the test of logic and the test of its outcomes? There is a celestial consequence, if you will, to man’s actions.

    I like Whittle, but on that quote I have discovered in the past 10-15 years that adherence to the constitution/BOR crumbles the instance that congress convenes in the capitol, and the instant the editors at the NYTimes hit the “enter” button to publish. When the judge sits in his dock, all bets are off. Our founders said we needed a bulwark to the law. That was our faith.

    If believers were perfect, at that moment monkeys would fly from crevices-netherhind. Faith and doctrine are there because of the imperfections of man. Don’t make me open up a can off logic!

  • John Venlet September 22, 2019, 9:28 AM

    Ghostsniper, I think you protest against faith in the Judeo-Christian God too much. No one is asking you to convert. Granted, ethics and morals can possibly exist without God, but I think morals and ethics without recognition of God are/would be rather weak as there are no consequences associated with not holding to said morals and ethics.

    You reference Whittle’s constitution quote in the sidebar, here, stating that if there were consequences associated with not adhering to the constitution, problems would disappear. The problem I see with this stance, is, you are appealing to government to be the enforcer of consequences for not adhering to the constitution, and yet your disdain for government; and my disdain for government is as strong as yours; would preclude this as an option. It is not the government’s job to set morals, or ethics.

    If there is no God, no supreme arbiter of right and wrong, then either individuals are beholden to government for discipline and guidance on how to live, or they must simply accept that their lives are indeed meaningless. Without God, attempts to live a moral and ethical life really are useless, and to be laughed at, because any good individuals may do gains them nothing except a bit of goodwill from other individuals, and any bad they may do simply gains them a bit of short lived notoriety.

  • james wilson September 22, 2019, 11:50 AM

    Ghost, I am surprised that you completely whiffed on the message from Chesterton. It is the observation that people who reject the beliefs of their fathers, however correctly, often have by no means abandoned their religious impulse but put it to work in what they perceive as social justice.

  • ghostsniper September 22, 2019, 12:27 PM

    “Granted, ethics and morals can possibly exist without God, but I think morals and ethics without recognition of God are/would be rather weak as there are no consequences associated with not holding to said morals and ethics.”

    In this thread I didn’t protest anything about God, you made that up, John.
    As for what you think about morals based on something other than your god, it’s nonsense and has nothing to do with me.

    You said this: “…because any good individuals may do gains them nothing except a bit of goodwill from other individuals…”

    Believe it or not John people do good, for absolutely nothing in return, all the time. You probably do too and you probably don’t ask god for permission first. Sometimes people caught up in religion seem to lose sight that non-religious people are normal too. Morality was taught to me by both of my only parents when I was very young and has been proven to be right countless times. Treat people as you’d like to be treated. Read into that what you will.

    And as far as that parchment under glass? It has nothing to do with me and never did.

  • Terry September 22, 2019, 7:52 PM

    ghost- I agree with most of your comments. But morality did not get picked off a tree so to speak. A quote from your comment above: “Morality was taught to me by both of my only parents when I was very young and has been proven to be right countless times.”

    Your parents were taught morality by someone also. People are not born with morals. A child is born with one instinct. Survival. The child knows no morality. So, where did western “morality” as we practice it originate? It came from Judaeo-Christian writings. Read the Christian Holy Bible for an education in the roots of Morality. Morality is not “common sense”.

    Somewhere in your family history, your clan was either taught Judaeo-Christian values (Morality) or learned it from close association with persons who were.

    Please do not hang me out to dry. You and I are much alike in many, many ways. I thank Gerard for making it possible for me to “meet” so many fantastic people through comments on this forum

    Yes, I believe in God. I do not believe in organized religion as practiced by the afterlife investment centers of today. Voltaire is one of my educators.

  • Matt Burchett September 23, 2019, 11:42 AM

    I’ll apologize to the plants when poison ivy apologizes to me.