Who Is the Enemy Here?

John Venlet January 30, 2022, 8:21 AM

I mentioned here, just the other day, that I thought that the Holy Spirit may be working in Jordan Peterson, that a seed, a mustard seed, may be being nourished within him. This does not persuade me otherwise.

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KCK January 30, 2022, 9:12 AM

I agree, he needs Jesus.

(Note, for those of you who use logic, that I did not say that he didn’t have Jesus, already. Never assume the consequent in any statement. JP’s faith is between him and God, but testing the character of an orator is a time-honored thing)

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ghostsniper January 30, 2022, 9:13 AM

That doods embarrassing. Blubbering all over the place like a little gurl with hurt feelings. Is he a narcissist or what? He should go get a real job.

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- John Venlet January 30, 2022, 10:28 AM
  
  Ghostsniper, I know you think that the whole believe in Jesus Christ thing is just an imaginary friend in the sky nonsense, but there are many, many people who will view this video of Peterson and consider what he is saying, and how he is expressing what he is saying, as something powerful happening within Peterson, rather than mere blubbering.
  
  What is interesting, to me at least, is that even though you express disdain for those who claim to have faith in what you say is just an imaginary friend in the sky, and I am one of those faith guys, based upon your expressions of how you value freedom and liberty and reject coercion, I would climb in a foxhole with you when and if the shooting starts, but I do not know if you would state the same for myself simply because you might consider me a blubbering little gurl if I expressed more openly the sentiments Peterson expresses in that video.
  
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  - Denny January 30, 2022, 12:01 PM
    
    “For they did not understand about the loaves, but their hearts were hardened.” Mark 6:52
    
    Ghost is just being his adorable sweet self.
    
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  - ghostsniper January 30, 2022, 1:42 PM
    
    Did I mention religion?
    
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    - Joe Krill January 30, 2022, 2:56 PM
      
      For those who do not know Christ, their loss. It is purely a spiritual thing. There has been a war going on for a long time between the Children of the Light and darkness. If one lights a match in total darkness it can be seen for a long way. Gerard, I think you like lighting those matches.
      
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      - Snakepit Kansas February 1, 2022, 5:11 PM
        
        Your light must shine before others that they may see you good deeds and glorify our Heavenly Father. Matthew 5:16.
        
        First verse I ever memorized. Many folks here have their light shining.
        
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  - Wilfred Ruffian January 31, 2022, 4:13 AM
    
    All atheists sound like arrested adolescents.
    You can tell exactly when they stopped thinking.
    
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    - Mike Austin January 31, 2022, 4:19 AM
      
      Plus every atheist lies. Of course he believes in a god. The atheist sees his god every time he looks in the mirror.
      
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- RedBeard January 30, 2022, 12:30 PM
  
  “That dood.” (Oh, how trendy and cool to use misspellings like “dood” and “gurl”)
  
  Jordan Peterson embarrasses you?
  Because he expresses exactly what hundreds of millions of other people believe?
  Or does your embarrassment stem from your hating God and blaming him for your miserable life?
  
  He should get a real job?
  Because your job is better? Something that can be done by any high school student with a CAD program and a Type 5 sheet?
  Because his net worth is over $8 million, and yours is less than 1/100th of that?
  Because he’s loved and respected by millions, yet you can count all your friends on one hand?
  
  You feel he’s a narcissist, but cite no explanation or proof? All while you tell others that you’ll “knock them out” for something or other, and play Keyboard Commando with “stockpiles of guns and ammo,” yet cower and dodge when challenged?
  
  You’ve displayed an open and wanton hatred for God and his believers on many occasions. You obviously prefer living a life of “accusation, suspicion, discord, derision, and hatred” that Peterson mentioned, rather than a life of following the Ten Commandments and God’s will.
  
  What a terrified, angry, hollow, unfocused life you must be trapped in.
  I suggest you save up all your “embarrassment” for Judgement Day.
  
  And please feel free to avoid answering any and all of my questions in this post and instead respond as you normally do- with insults, idle threats, swearwords, and infantile rage– as is the way of the godless and soulless.
  
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  - ghostsniper January 30, 2022, 1:46 PM
    
    You’ve displayed an open and wanton hatred for God and his believers on many occasions.
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    You’re a fucking liar.
    If you had any history on this site you’d know better than that.
    
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    - RedBeard January 30, 2022, 2:44 PM
      
      Perfect!
      Your reply was exactly as I predicted, and your refusal to answer any pertinent question is one of your most steadfast, classic traits.
      
      Despite our obvious differences of opinion and beliefs, I sincerely hope you find happiness and contentment someday.
      
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      - ghostsniper January 30, 2022, 7:24 PM
        
        Still lying. It’s your nature.
        
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        RedBeard January 31, 2022, 10:17 AM
        
        My, my… What a deep and intellectual reply.
        Maybe you should take a look around, and you might notice that the majority of people here are Christians and believers in God– you’re pretty outnumbered.
        Yet you seem to want to offend their ways.
        
        Maybe your insults and tantrums are just desperate cries for help or attention?
        I hope you find peace, but it isn’t in the direction of the road you’re currently traveling.
        
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        ghostsniper January 31, 2022, 10:35 AM
        
        Did you ever make it through elementary school?
        I never mentioned anything about religion.
        Just more lying on your part. yawn
        
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  - Snakepit Kansas February 1, 2022, 5:24 PM
    
    Red,
    I’ve been entertained by Ghost’s prolific, humorous and candid writings here for a number of years now. The dood has some good stories for sure as we all often share life experiences here at AD. Also you will be hard pressed to shame and drag anyone, willingly to Jesus.
    
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    - RedBeard February 2, 2022, 12:33 PM
      
      Snake,
      
      No drag attempted– I’ve seen and read Ghost’s many posts, including stories of alleged accomplishments, macho-man false bravado, and his particular brand of humor.
      I honestly could care less about his atheism and angry, cussword-filled replies, but when he disrespects and attacks someone whom I respect and like, I respond in kind.
      
      Ghost is more than welcome to choose his own destiny and afterlife, but when he (or anyone) wantonly attacks someone who is important to, and highly respected by me, then he is also attacking me.
      It’s called camaraderie.
      
      And something I’m sure you will agree with– this forum is a great source of news, entertainment, and info and is presented in an adult, educated manner.
      But childish, hate-filled, insulting posts here drag down the higher level of respect this site deserves, and a certain person here seems to have made that his quest.
      
      As I said above, I’d never attempt to “drag anyone to Jesus.”
      If someone is determined to go to hell, why would I stand in their way?
      
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- Vanderleun January 30, 2022, 2:01 PM
  
  He has a job. He’s helping your kids and their kids stand up straight and straighten out their lives.
  
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- John G Condon January 30, 2022, 3:23 PM
  
  “That doods embarrassing. Blubbering all over the place like a little gurl with hurt feelings.”
  
  Hmmm… Perhaps you may enjoy the Stoics, then, GS (Nicely done by LSOO):
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sbgpjcf-i8I
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  - james wilson January 31, 2022, 1:03 PM
    
    Peterson’s relevance increasingly resembles the fine white fellow who recently preached on the street in a black neighborhood with his wife and child by his side.
    
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Mike Austin January 30, 2022, 8:55 AM

“On the Beach” (1959). “The Bedford Incident” (1965). “Fail Safe” (1964). “Dr. Strangelove” (1964): All of these imagined a world where nuclear war had occurred or was imminent. They are still worth a look today, and are a perfect view into the mindset of the 1960s and how that long-ago world thought about the “unthinkable”. Even before these an entire genre of film arose in the 1950s imagining the effects of nuclear testing on a variety of creatures real and imagined. Some examples—and there are dozens such—are “Them” (1954) about giant ants; ” The Beast from 20,000 Fathoms” (1953) about a dinosaur come back to life; “It Came from Beneath the Sea” (1955) about a giant octopus; and a whole slew of Godzilla movies. All of these are irredeemably stupid and have the most ridiculous special effects imaginable—even worse than Biden’s fake White House interior.

The fact of the matter is this: No one knows what will happen once the first nuclear missile is fired. No one. Talk to “experts”—really, there are none—and they will throw around words and phrases like “circular error probable”, “first strike”, “MIRV”, “MaRV”, “ground zero” and such claptrap.

But be not fooled. One the SHTF, all bets and guesses are off. Good luck.

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ghostsniper January 30, 2022, 9:11 AM

Stumbling around in a large, dark junk joint maybe 30 years ago in Englewood, FL I happened upon some things and I asked the owner what they were. He told me they were the arms for a large ant from a movie in the 50’s and they were used in the close up scenes. They were about 20′ long and in very bad shape, most of the other covering was gone or tattered.

Speaking of movies and such. The largest home I ever designed was about 20,000 sf and it was for the owners of a palm tree company on an island off the coast of southwest FL. Walking their wilderness landscape with the owner we came upon a quiet lagoon that was surrounded by full size coconut palms that in their youth had been planted on a shallow angle (almost horizontal) and projected way out over the water and after 10 years or so started growing vertically. A mesmerizing sight. The large lagoon was fully stocked with an assortment of large tropical fishes. There were big trashcans of fish food that looked like dog food and big scoops. I threw a couple scoops of the food out on the water and the fishes worked up a froth. Anyway we walked further and came upon a broken down tiki hut and he told me that back in the 60’s they had filmed scenes for Gilligan’s Island there.

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- Mike Austin January 30, 2022, 9:49 AM
  
  I would kind of like having those two “ant arms” that you ran into. Go ahead see that film if you have not already. James Arness and James Whitmore are in it. Look carefully and you will see Leonard Nimoy. Think I’ll watch it again for the first time in almost 60 years.
  
  “Them! is one of the first of the 1950s “nuclear monster” films, and the first “big bug” feature film to use insects as the monster…Since its original release, Them! has become generally regarded as one of the best science fiction films of the 1950s.”
  
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  - ghostsniper January 30, 2022, 1:50 PM
    
    I have seen it but not recently. I’m a fan of Arness. My wife and I have been watch the Gunsmoke series for the past couple years, have all the discs. We watch at least 1 episode per week and are in the 19th (of 20) season right now.
    
    My first memory of Nimoy was Star Trek of course, and I find it funny when I stumble across him in his previous roles. I’ve seen him in several cowboy shows. Same with Shatner and “Bones”.
    
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    - Mike Austin January 30, 2022, 2:37 PM
      
      Have you seen Arness in “The Thing From Another World” (1951)? He plays the Thing.
      
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjuLZwlDxh8&list=PLY2RSTbBL9hzUagmb4_-avJPdIWy5yFdh
      
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      - ghostsniper January 30, 2022, 7:25 PM
        
        I have.
        
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    - gwbnyc January 30, 2022, 4:08 PM
      
      a gunsmoke episode with strother martin “No Hands”- a great one.
      
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      - ghostsniper January 31, 2022, 4:31 AM
        
        Yes. I remember that one. It was a different role for him. I think he died from eating bad sausages. Took out his assailants too.
        
        Believe it or not he was an olympic class swimmer.
        “What we have here is a failure to commu-icate.”
        
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        gwbnyc January 31, 2022, 12:07 PM
        
        no Strother, but Hitchcock/”The Magic Shop” another good show.
        
        50-60’s anthology TV is the best.
        
        gotta favorite Twilight Zone, or Outer Limits? Remember “Way Out”?
        
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        ghostsniper January 31, 2022, 2:40 PM
        
        Back about 1998 I competed, and won, in what was at the time the greatest download project ever created in usenet. It was the 3 month long continuous effort of uploading and downloading some 800,000 file fragments in RAR format of all 156 episodes of The Twilight Zone. I had multiple uplinks, my own server, a paid dedicated host (Forte’s Agent) and 2 home made Pentium computers with multiple hard drives downloading continuously the whole 3 months. Of the many thousands of people worldwide that participated I was one of 6 people to make the entire download successfully. When DVD burning became available I did just that, burned all episodes and fred up the HD’s. About 8 years ago after we cut the dish loose my wife and I watched all 156 episodes end to end at the rate of one epi per night at suppertime. When that was done we started on The Fugitive. Now, we have a rather extensive DVD library. And 5 DVD players stacked next to the TV in the living room, all of them loaded with old TV series and we rotate through them each night. Currently, Gunsmoke (19th season), Perry Mason (6th season), Centennial (mini series from the 70’s), Have Gun Will Travel (3rd season), 26 Men (2nd season).
        
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        Mike Austin February 1, 2022, 3:54 AM
        
        I saw every episode of “Twilight Zone”, “Outer Limits” and “One Step Beyond”. I was a mere lad, and watched them on a small black and white screen on a tv with rabbit ears. Those shows instilled in me a sense of the eerie, the out-of-place, the odd and the frightening. These have never left me.
        
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  - jwm January 30, 2022, 2:31 PM
    
    “Make me a sergeant, charge the booze.”
    Giant ants in the LA Riverbed.
    I’ve ridden right where that was filmed. Fun movie!
    They’re still shootin’ movies in the LA River.
    
    JWM
    
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KCK January 30, 2022, 9:15 AM

I thought of On The Beach immediately, too, Mike.

Below I will wax about the problems with Sagan’s Nuclear Winter hype.

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Richard January 30, 2022, 9:30 AM

The enemy has always been the Father of Lies. Period.

I continue to respect Peterson and he unpacks a great deal in 18 minutes. I do not know how long it’s been since his conversion, but it seems to me he’s still trying to sort out basic Good and Evil. Not that that’s ever a bad thing. Still, I find it very difficult to accept those who are committed to the destruction of everything I regard as precious – and in some cases, blessings from God – to be my “brothers and comrades-in-arms.”

That said, I readily admit, these individuals are my fellow God-created siblings. Would that they could show me the same courtesy.
Peterson speaks of the Enemy’s desire to divide. Well. who has been instrumental in that? Is it the folks who attempt to live by the Ten Commandments or the Golden Rule? Or, perhaps, the one I like even better: “Do not do the evil onto another, that you would not have done onto yourself”.

We are commanded to “Love our enemies”, yet, we are to despise the evil that leads us away from our Creator. I find the best I can do with this, is to wish those who would do me harm, to eventually find their way back to the fold. May their errors be revealed to them. The Father rejoices in the return of the Prodigal. I do not want a single child of God lost to the adversary.

Finally, Peterson rightly warns about the “arrogance of intellect.” Well. once again, where are we seeing that? It seems that a great percentage of the ills we are being compelled to confront result from our “ruling elite”, who present themselves as being both omniscient and omnipotent. I, on the other hand, am keenly aware of my limitations – intellectual and otherwise.

What’s to be done about it? Are we to simply roll over and let the hypocritical minions of the Davos crowd, et all, have their way with us? My Church’s catechism provides a resounding NO to that question.

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Mike Austin January 30, 2022, 11:11 AM

I believe you nailed it: “…it seems to me he’s still trying to sort out basic Good and Evil.” It is truly frightening to understand Evil for what it is, and Peterson certainly does not. Peterson scolds Christians but has no words for those who follow the Prince of the Power of the Air. They would not listen anyway.

We are not all “children of God”. Christ made that as plain as it could be made. We are all created of God, but some have Christ for their Father and some have Lucifer for their father. Black and white. Sheep and goats. Wheat and tares. No gray at all. No nuance.

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- John Venlet January 31, 2022, 4:58 AM
  
  We are not all “children of God”. Christ made that as plain as it could be made.
  
  Mike, I think you’re a bit off base, here. New Testament Scripture does plainly tell us that not all people will receive salvation, that is true, but all people are the children of God. If this is not true, why the parable of the lost sheep (Matthew 18:10-14), and the rejoicing for finding just one lost sheep versus the 99 still in the flock? Relatedly, further down where you criticize Milo’s new found faith, your comment is similar to the complaint of the brother of the prodigal son when he returns to his father (Luke 15:11-32), or the vineyard workers who worked all day who complain about being paid the same as the vineyard workers who worked for only an hour (Matthew 20:1-16). Even the thief on the cross, who one minute is mocking Jesus Christ, telling Christ to save himself, is redeemed seemingly moments later.
  
  The words of Jesus Christ himself caution us. Matthew 7:1-2 Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.
  
  And there’s this from Matthew 9:13: For I did not come to call the righteous, but sinners.
  
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  - Mike Austin January 31, 2022, 6:36 AM
    
    Here are just a few examples where Jesus clearly and plainly differentiates between His children and Lucifer’s children.
    
    “You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father.”—John 8:44
    
    “The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one…”—Matthew 13:38
    
    “This is how we know who the children of God are and who the children of the devil are: Anyone who does not do what is right is not God’s child.”—1 John 3:10
    
    I do indeed criticize Milo and his—as you wrote—“new found faith”. I do so because I don’t believe him.
    
    As for that old “judge not that you not be judged”: This is perhaps the most misused and misunderstood sentence in Scripture. I will not debate the issue. But I will remind you that this sentence is used by sexual degenerates to castigate Christians who dare say that sodomy is a sin and thus against the Word of God. “How dare Christians preach against sodomy—or abortion or adultery or pedophilia! They are judging me, those hypocrites!”
    
    And most certainly Jesus came into this world to call sinners—that is, everyone. Does that therefore mean everyone answers His call and is therefore saved? And that Hell is empty?
    
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    - Denny January 31, 2022, 2:02 PM
      
      “Do not Judge lest you be judged” Matt 7:1
      It’s very popular and in great error now days for people to mis-interpret this verse in Scripture. It is meant only for those who judge others hypocritically. In other words, those who judge others for the same thing they themselves are doing. The fact is that in John 7:24 it is being OBEDIENT to judge others. “Do not judge by appearances, but judge with right (biblical) judgment.”
      
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    - John Venlet February 1, 2022, 4:31 AM
      
      Does that therefore mean everyone answers His call and is therefore saved? And that Hell is empty?
      
      By no means, Mike, that universalism crap is crap. I guess I just temper my judgments in regards to individuals’ faith and salvation a bit more than the righteous do.
      
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      - Mike Austin February 1, 2022, 6:57 AM
        
        Jesus Himself spoke against what is today called “Christian Universalism”:
        
        “Enter through the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the road broad that leads to destruction, and those who enter through it are many. How narrow the gate and constricted the road that leads to life. And those who find it are few.”—Matt 6:12-13.
        
        There are many bishops and cardinals in the Catholic Church who teach that “everybody goes to Heaven”. These heretics will never get there to find out.
        
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        Snakepit Kansas February 1, 2022, 5:39 PM
        
        Matthew Chapters 5, 6 & 7 are likely the most encompassing for how one should live their life. Easy reads that I suggest for anyone, even non-believers.
        
        The Pope is full loco loco. I am not judging but that dood may need some asbestos soled shoes when he dies. Pelosi, Schumer….they have the money, get some asbestos put on the bottom of the shoes, just in case.
        
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        Mike Austin February 2, 2022, 7:45 AM
        
        The Sermon on the Mount has been called “the last word on Christian ethics”. And so true: It is an excellent foundation for a properly lived life.
        
        “Pope” Francis is an anti-Pope and a member in good standing of Globo-homo. He is neither Catholic nor Christian, but is rather a secular humanist and an enemy of Christ.
        
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RedBeard January 30, 2022, 12:33 PM

Very well stated, Richard.

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KCK January 30, 2022, 9:34 AM

Carl Sagan wrote about why we needed, I guess it was, to disarm. His Nuclear Winter book was so full of shit it squeaked.

His postulation of a nuke exchange between the USSR and the USA had every last device blowing up. The way I read it, he seemed to be visualizing sympathetic explosions of warheads, which is not the way they work. A nuke detonator is a device that fires; if it does not fire then the contents of the bomb, while being radioactive for sure, at any rate do not split atoms. IOW, there is no sympathetic explosion such as with dynamite – there is no blowing up of a nuke and then that nuke mushroom clouds up. Carl Sagan was an idiot, and yet people listened to him and repeated his hors shit in the newspapers for years after he published.

Consider an exchange of nukes between the 2 great powers. The first targets are: the other guys nukes! Consider the failure to launch mechanically, and the destruction of the command and control (2nd target) of the missile batteries. There is no event feasible in which every nuke on Earth would detonate, and yet that’s the idea these commie turds would have you believe. Golly, I guess we’d better disarm unilaterally – Sagan said so.

Next, Sagan wants you to imagine great fires from all of the explosions – fires engulfing the entire West of the US ot the whole of Siberia, or some shit like that. In my experience with high explosives, they as often put out fires as they do ignite them. Now, radioactivity. It has a half life, and I don’t recall the details. Look at Hiroshima/Nagasaki. The awful radiation poisoning that occurred at different layers of the circle you can draw outward from the blast zero, nonetheless at one layer close to ground zero some people actually thrived from the rad. dosage. It’s weird. The fallout occurs in the form of ashen dispersal from above; IOW you don’t see radiation but you do see fallout.

All things to consider, and yet I never believed that the whole world could be destroyed by nukes, and certainly the hype of how we had enough weaponry to destroy the world several times over: that was poppycock.

I sound like Dr Strangelove, I know. But my mind uses logic and it is interesting to note how that the movies Mike lists had to imagine a “failsafe” or “doomsday” bomb, because the actual destruction form nukes was not going to happen on its own. Enter Sagan, with his weak shit.

End of rant.

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Mike Austin January 30, 2022, 10:04 AM

I have despised Sagan for decades. He was just one of many “scientist” types who are Secular Humanists and God haters. His views on anything outside his narrow field of PBS’ “Cosmos” are entirely ignorant. I heard about his writings on nuclear war and just dismissed them. Watching him for a bit on tv years ago, I thought him an arrogant prick.

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- Casey Klahn January 30, 2022, 1:46 PM
  
  I think they hand one an “Arrogant Prick” lapel button when he reaches a certain platitude of sciencism. I’d vote for a kick a scientist in the cunt day soon.
  
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  - ghostsniper January 30, 2022, 1:58 PM
    
    Casey called him a cunt. lol
    I remember watching him on PBS years ago and my impression is that he tries to talk above his pay grade. To be successful you don’t try, you do.
    
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    - gwbnyc January 30, 2022, 10:18 PM
      
      he did introduce “BILL-yunz and Bill-yunz” into the vocabulary.
      
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Vanderleun January 30, 2022, 2:21 PM

Well, from total obliteration or lose a city here or there ….. or “I ain’t sayin’ we won’t get out hair mussed..” one thing is certain. The morning after will be an entire new epoch for the human race and the planet Earth. You talk about “Something that changes everything”? That day would do it.

And the status of that day is, as they say in the Tank Corps, “On the way.”

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- Mike Austin January 30, 2022, 3:39 PM
  
  Yep. And on that day, there will be surprises. Lots of them.
  
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- KCK January 30, 2022, 6:52 PM
  
  Yes, that’s much needed balance.
  Military men have dark, dark senses of humor. T shirt worn by boomer crews on shore leave: “24 empty missile tubes, and it’s Miller Time!”
  Yes – the day after will be the worst one ever for possibly the greatest amount of humans ever at one time. But there will be a morning after. That’s what I meant, and every little detail of Russia-NATO war is open for discussion, I plead. I also plead with God that this cup passes.
  
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  - John Venlet January 31, 2022, 4:08 AM
    
    Speaking of T shirts worn by submarine sailors, Casey, on our boat, the LA (SSN688), a group of nukes had a bunch of T shirts made up with the wording “Mutants for Nuclear Power,” and embossed with a distorted faced human. We wore them around Hong Kong on liberty in the early 80s, and around Pearl.
    
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James ONeil January 30, 2022, 9:52 AM

Saw On The Beach in ’59/’60 when going to U of Fla in Gainesville. Bought a roll of butcher’s paper afterwards and made a 30 or 40 foot long ‘There’s Still Time Brother’ banner. Hung it of some trees across the main thoroughfare in the University’s Plaza de America in the dead of night.

It stayed up for about a month before the university’s maintenance folk took it down.

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Mike Austin January 30, 2022, 10:06 AM

Terrorist. Enemy of the State. Rabble-rouser. Agent provocateur.

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x Menticide January 30, 2022, 10:40 AM

I admire my fellow Canadian, Jordan Peterson, and consider him to be a man of great intelligence and integrity.
BUT …. you knew there had to be one.
Unfortunately he has a messiah complex so his come to G_d moment should not be surprising.

I think the man is emotionally unstable and this even before the drug addiction.
He often describes himself, a psychologist, as a scientist. I’m permanently puzzled as to how he let that happen. Wouldn’t a “scientist” of his stature have been able to spend a few minutes researching the drug and learning why he should avoid its long term use.

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gwbnyc January 30, 2022, 11:55 AM

aye.
the messiah thing is easy to adopt, in my experience.

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RedBeard January 30, 2022, 12:47 PM

Many people are prescribed controlled substances from their Doctors, and no one is immune to developing a physical dependency. Or, for that matter, harmful side effects, or death– from trusting Big Pharma and Doctors.
Consider how many deaths and severe complications have happened from the “100% safe and effective” Covid jabs. Or how many medications are needlessly prescribed.
Even over-the-counter talcum powder is “dangerous” now, despite being used and trusted for generations.
Medical mistakes and errors are now the 3rd leading cause of death in America. Do you trust your Doctor 100% and bet your life on his opinions?

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

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ghostsniper January 30, 2022, 2:01 PM

“I think the man is emotionally unstable…”
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Watch out, some here (Redbeard) will let their diaper rash cause them to start telling lies about you.

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- RedBeard January 31, 2022, 9:47 AM
  
  Funny, Ghost Sniper.
  Your insecure and infantile comments crack me up.
  
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  - ghostsniper January 31, 2022, 10:38 AM
    
    Intellectual dwarf, emotional basket case.
    
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- Vanderleun January 31, 2022, 10:57 AM
  
  Why must there always be fighting and killing? Why can’t we have peace in the valley?
  
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  - ghostsniper January 31, 2022, 2:43 PM
    
    The attacker (formerly ex-cali pete) will never answer.
    I try to ignore it but it persists in stalking.
    Others have told me it is a gov’t troll. shrug
    
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    - Vanderleun January 31, 2022, 5:04 PM
      
      Just got off the secure phone with Langley. “Not one of ours.”
      
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      - RedBeard January 31, 2022, 9:11 PM
        
        Vanderleun- that was absolutely priceless!
        
        And always glad to hear that my ‘fellow operatives’ in Fairfax County still cover for me.
        That Tier 4 security clearance sure comes in handy, doesn’t it? *wink wink*
        
        ∞
    - RedBeard January 31, 2022, 8:54 PM
      
      Alrighty then- we’ll just add paranoia to your list of humorous attributes, and I’m sure it’ll be right at home with the other afflictions.
      
      Hey, did the ‘others’ tell you which government I might be trolling for? Sounds like some mighty suspicious covert stuff might going on here, comrade.
      
      ∞
  - Mike Austin January 31, 2022, 3:48 PM
    
    I just keep my head down and hope for an armistice.
    
    ∞
    - Vanderleun January 31, 2022, 5:00 PM
      
      AS MY ‘OL PAPPY said to me, “Son, shit in one hand. Hope in the other. See which one fills up first.”
      
      ∞
  - Snakepit Kansas February 1, 2022, 5:45 PM
    
    Can’t we all just get along? – Rodney King
    
    What ever happened to 10? Any time that dude wrote I had to get out a dictionary.
    
    ∞
Zaphod January 30, 2022, 6:34 PM

Bingo.

Vox Day is a right piece of work (OK.. so I’m a Gamma.. woohoo)… but like a stopped clock… Anyway he nailed Peterson early on.

Years back I read a very illuminating book about a bunch of gurus. The one thing they all had in common was a serious breakdown before they saw the light.

I will say that Peterson has more sincerity in his little finger than Milo and his Washed in the Blood of the Lamb LARP.

∞
- Mike Austin January 31, 2022, 2:56 AM
  
  Yeah, Vox Day sure has a thing for Peterson. He even wrote an entire book about him, “Jordanetics”. Read the description of the book at Amazon. Whoever wrote that seems unhinged himself. And about that Milo character: He is now appearing at a number of conservative and Christian venues. It really is embarrassing. Milo led a life of flamboyant depravity, smugly waving his sodomy in the faces of all he encountered. Now he has, mirabile dictu, become a new man, born again in Christ, able and willing to preach and witness. No time off out of the public view for Milo! He went one day to thanking the Catholic priest who seduced him to swinging a Bible and mouthing “Praise the Lord!” at every opportunity. My God what a farce.
  
  ∞
  - ghostsniper January 31, 2022, 4:38 AM
    
    The only thing lower than a fag is a stealer of trust.
    I have no use for either and wish them all banishment.
    
    ∞
    - Mike Austin January 31, 2022, 8:19 AM
      
      Those Catholic priests who seduced altar boys are both.
      
      ∞
  - Zaphod January 31, 2022, 4:47 PM
    
    Milo is the Cerno of Sodomy.
    
    ∞
    - Vanderleun January 31, 2022, 4:58 PM
      
      RIMSHOT!
      
      ∞
      - Mike Austin January 31, 2022, 5:18 PM
        
        I had to sit down after that one.
        
        ∞
        
        Zaphod January 31, 2022, 11:10 PM
        
        Dang… I’ve been Topped.
        
        ∞
    - Snakepit Kansas February 1, 2022, 5:48 PM
      
      Milo may be queer as a three dollar bill but the dood publicly denounced is prior lifestyle and is actively working to change himself. The easiest thing to do in life is FIX SOMEONE ELSE’S PROBLEM.
      
      ∞
      - Mike Austin February 2, 2022, 8:00 AM
        
        The proper thing for Milo to do then would have been to seclude himself for some years of reflection, introspection, prayer and penance. Even Paul had three years between the Damascus Road and the writing of his Epistles. This would have shown humility and obedience. Instead Milo jumps right back into the limelight spreading Hallelujahs all around and waving around a Bible. It is unseemly and embarrassing for him to pretend to be a modern day Billy Sunday.
        
        The Christian community has seen this exact sort of thing on countless occasions, and we’re fooled every time.
        
        ∞
        
        John Venlet February 2, 2022, 8:48 AM
        
        In John 8:1-11, where we are told a divorced woman is brought before Christ charged with adultery by the Pharisees, seeking Christ’s blessing to stone her per the law of Moses, Christ informs the Pharisees that whomever is without sin can cast the first stone. They all leave in shame and silence, and Christ is left alone with the adulteress. Christ does not tell her to go and reflect for 3 years, and perform acts of penance, he simply tells her to go and sin no more. I think Christ would state the same to Milo.
        
        ∞
        
        Mike Austin February 2, 2022, 8:58 AM
        
        My writing about Milo has nothing to do with what Christ might demand of him. At any rate, we cannot know that. My writing about Milo has nothing to do with the state of his soul. At any rate, I cannot know that. My writing about Milo has everything to do with the simple fact that I don’t believe him.
        
        ∞

james wilson January 30, 2022, 10:59 AM

“For all their faults” Peterson blithely says. An era has passed, an era he understood. His refusal to understand the nature of the enemy of that era does not make him wise, it makes him stupid.

∞

Mike Austin January 30, 2022, 11:15 AM

Peterson asks, “Whose the enemy here?” He really doesn’t know.

∞
- John G Condon January 30, 2022, 1:16 PM
  
  Peterson’s coming to the party pretty late. Vast majority of us all talked like him at some point (Heck, I voted for Mondale in 84)
  
  I believe he’ll eventually realize who is the enemy. Glad to see he says ‘Love your enemies’ as it is the right track.
  
  ∞

Mike Austin January 30, 2022, 11:00 AM

Peterson’s musings on Christianity are almost Quaker in their sentiments. They are more concerned with feelings and vague notions. He gives no thought at all to what Christianity really is: A warrior faith. It is not about tolerance or reaching across any aisle or accepting your enemies. In fact, it is not about feelings at all; It is about facts.

It does no good at all to ignore those parts of Scripture that make one uneasy. A man must either face the facts of what the Bible teaches or turn away from them—and thus turn away entirely from Christianity. When Ecclesiastes wrote “A time to love, And a time to hate; A time of war, And a time of peace.” I presume that there are indeed times to hate and times to make war. A man reads the Psalms and gets the impression that more than half of them are men asking God to punish their enemies. When Jesus told his followers to carry a sword, must you be reminded what a sword is for? God ordered His people to commit genocide upon the Amalekites. Why?

Peterson’s faith is as yet very immature. I pray that he strengthens in his understanding.

∞

julie January 30, 2022, 1:22 PM

Back when I lived in Florida, I was part of a Bible study in my parish, and we usually alternated between reading the Old Testament and the New. The group was mostly elderly ladies, and they had an extremely difficult time wrapping their minds around some of the gorier parts of the OT. It is so far divorced from any experience they can relate to that it is almost unimaginable to them. This wasn’t so long after the Benghazi attack; I quietly pointed out that many of the scenes we think of as ancient history are still very much a part of the culture in those parts of the world today.

As Westerners and particularly as Americans, culturally, we (that’s a massive generalization) really don’t have any idea how evil mankind can be.

∞
- Mike Austin January 30, 2022, 3:07 PM
  
  Some of the violence in the Old Testament would make even an Assyrian king a bit queasy. Yet there it is. Commanded by God.
  
  “Now go and attack Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and do not spare them. But kill both man and woman, infant and nursing child, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.”—1 Samuel 15:3
  
  Why did God command this? Might He do so again? The Old Testament deserves the same attention as the New. As you noted, many moderns are uncomfortable with such passages. Jesus Himself made whole swaths of folks uncomfortable—so uncomfortable that they killed Him.
  
  Christianity has no desire to make any man comfortable—on the contrary.
  
  ∞
Vanderleun January 30, 2022, 4:35 PM

Every Christian is The Church. Too much perfection is a mistake.

∞

John Venlet January 30, 2022, 11:18 AM

Damn, am I glad all of the critics of Peterson’s nascent beginnings of faith are not judging my less than a mustard seed faith.

∞

ghostsniper January 30, 2022, 2:04 PM

Speaking of mustard seeds. My mother wore a necklace that she received as a child that was round, clear, and had a mustard seed in it. I don’t think she ever told me the history of such a thing. Do you know?

∞
- Jack January 30, 2022, 2:22 PM
  
  Mine had one of those too! No idea what happened to it.
  
  ∞
- David January 30, 2022, 7:38 PM
  
  It turns out the mustard seed is mentioned several times throughout the bible as a symbol of faith. The comparison use is like the tiny seed growing into a great shade-providing plant. … Though the seed is a symbol of faith in Christianity, it is also known to signify good luck in the secular community.
  
  ∞
  - gwbnyc January 30, 2022, 7:57 PM
    
    faith the size of a mustard seed will move a mountain- an admonishment for lack of faith, IIRC.
    
    ∞
- John Venlet January 31, 2022, 4:14 AM
  
  Ghostsniper, I don’t know what the history is of the mustard seed necklace you mention, though as others have already stated, in the Scriptures Christ himself tells us that having faith even just the size of a mustard seed can produce great acts. It’d be interesting to know if there is a symbolic history to your mom’s necklace.
  
  ∞
  - ghostsniper January 31, 2022, 4:41 AM
    
    My sister was the executor of my mothers estate so she probably has that necklace. Today is my birthday and she always calls me on that day so I’m going to ask her about it.
    
    ∞

bruce kendall January 30, 2022, 11:41 AM

judge NOT! also, look to your NEW testament. period!

∞

Mike Austin January 30, 2022, 12:11 PM

And not the Old?

∞
- Vanderleun January 30, 2022, 4:41 PM
  
  Everything Old is New again! “31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.”
  
  ∞
  - Mike Austin January 30, 2022, 5:02 PM
    
    I am partial to the Old, even though most of Christian theology comes from the letters of Paul. Something about Genesis, Exodus and those Old Testament kings.
    
    ∞
    - Denny January 31, 2022, 5:40 AM
      
      The Old Testament is the house and foundation and the New is the roof. Both are absolutely necessary for a decent home.
      
      ∞
    - Amy January 31, 2022, 5:43 AM
      
      I’m so in love with David that I’m jealous of Bathsheba!
      
      God, I love God.
      
      ∞
      - Mike Austin January 31, 2022, 9:03 AM
        
        How could David—how could any man—resist Bathsheba as she bathed? True that God punished David for his adultery, murder and lies, but he did keep Bathsheba.
        
        ∞
        
        Amy January 31, 2022, 11:30 AM
        
        …and Absalom did end with the mace. Not that it’s any of my business, but I do wonder at times if Uriah wasn’t maybe a little toooooo – wink wink nudge nudge – into, uhhh…soldiering on.
        
        ∞
        
        Mike Austin January 31, 2022, 1:36 PM
        
        Absalom was described by Samuel as “the handsomest man in the kingdom”. There has never been a handsome man who was not also vain. His vanity led to rebellion and so to his own death. David’s family life was in total disarray: heated arguments, murder, rape, revolt. All this was because of Uriah’s murder, which was done to cover up a pregnancy, which came about because of adultery. What a mess!
        
        And Uriah…what can one say? We don’t know how he felt about his wife Bathsheba. We do not know if she was a practiced adulteress. I have always found Uriah to be a bit odd, a bit of a cold sort.
        
        ∞
        
        Snakepit Kansas February 1, 2022, 5:53 PM
        
        Mike,
        Bathsheeba probably did not believe she had the ability to deny the king’s advances. As for her warrior husband? We know little and should not suggest little of a man who died in battle.
        
        ∞
        
        Mike Austin February 2, 2022, 8:16 AM
        
        Bathsheba was bathing naked in full view of David. Surely she had something on her mind. Other women in the Old Testament—Jael and Judith come to mind—did not at all act as she did. Bathsheba was advertising her availability.
        
        Speculating on the exact nature of Biblical characters—Uriah for example—is as old as…well, the Bible.
        
        ∞

Terry January 30, 2022, 1:00 PM

A way to accept God into your life is by experiencing the work of the Devil with your own eyes.

May God have mercy on the doubters.

∞

Mike Austin January 30, 2022, 1:09 PM

I did experience that—for 30 years. Never going back to that dreary life—if life it was. In the Light, I will never return to the dark.

∞

Terry January 30, 2022, 2:00 PM

An education in the evil that is upon us all right now in our faces:

Five hours of “get real or die testimony” in US Senate. One needs to watch this whole thing to get a grasp of what is going on and will kill all of us if not stopped. The enemy is on a roll.

https://thewashingtonstandard.com/senator-ron-johnson-holds-panel-discussion-on-covid-19-a-second-opinion-the-data-is-alarming-video/

Video is 5 hrs in length. I watched it in 1 hr segments. If your life and your loved ones has any value please watch this before it disappears.

My neighbor across the road told my wife and I last Tuesday that “several” of his friends have died with pancreatic cancer in the last few months. All were “injected”. And he says “what’s going on”.

There are hero’s and heroines in our midst. They need our help.

∞

ghostsniper January 30, 2022, 2:09 PM

The virus was the “bait” and the vaccine was the “switch”.
A person’s core value was the “fulcrum”.

∞
Mike Austin January 30, 2022, 2:54 PM

When just your ordinary folks begin to ask, “What’s going on?”, the gig will be up. The US government will have to scramble fast to censure the truth about Fauci, the “vaccines” and boosters, Pfizer and their complicity in a mass-extermination project carried out on the American people.

There will be blood.

∞
- Terry January 30, 2022, 4:31 PM
  
  My wife just confirmed that my neighbor, referenced above, said that his friends who died from pancreatic cancer, all passed within the last “couple of months”. This was six men all of whom were “injected” as I typed above.
  
  The US Senate discussion linked in my comment above is a pivot point for action for both sides of the war we are in currently. I applaud Senator Johnson for his courage in putting this discussion out in the open. The Senator is a God-send in this nightmare of a Plandemic in my view. His colleagues in the Senate could be described as cowards.
  
  ∞
- ghostsniper January 30, 2022, 7:30 PM
  
  sheen gunz in hospitals and pharmacy’s.
  
  ∞

Vanderleun January 30, 2022, 4:44 PM

Everything Old is New again! “31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.”

∞

Lagman January 30, 2022, 7:25 PM

I cannot not, comment. Too many regular commenters have too much regret which they express as experience.

Those individual commenters (as does Jordan) need to rethink how they share their experience and “personal philosophy / spirituality” and understanding of Christ’s teachings.

The “enemy” is our individual unwillingness to accept that we are not able to but affect an ambiguously significant albeit temporary moment in the infinite continuum of time (whatever “time” is).

“To boot”, you must accept (as I do even here; so hammer or word-recognition dictate away) language fails us all – speaker / writer and listener /reader. Additionally, we are all limited by the “language(s)” we select (have been ‘birthed’ in) to use. … 4,000 languages in use today (excluding dialects), and how many have disappeared.

All and each having concepts and are based on perspectives not readily reflected in English (Americanized or otherwise). … And, then there are the semantics of words and morphemes, and such, which actually matter to effective communication. (There are obviously many linguistic experts (though none I recognize among regular commenters) who might chose to expand and clarify my basic ignorance.)

Jesus, The Christ, spoke Aramaic. Does Jordan or any of the commenters care about the plight of the Christ’s Church (not any one institution; His individual followers) ?

Let me be abundantly clear – I am a Christian; I am not a Roman Catholic. Further, while I know John Paul II was a Christian (I was in his presence in NYC); I am also able to say Bergoglio is not a Christian. That said, established, endowed “Christian” organizations are possibly corrupt.

Please don’t block this link: https://www.churchinneed.org/

Think, research (www.guidestar.org), pray … What do you who profess actually believe ? What are you willing to risk for your faith ? …

P.S. Stop attempting to justify your past, e.g., union membership or other job security, … What can you accomplish prospectively ?

∞

Mike Austin January 31, 2022, 3:04 AM

“I am also able to say Bergoglio is not a Christian.” Bergoglio is neither Christian nor pope nor Catholic. He is an antipope and forerunner to the Anti-Christ. Bergoglio is a member in good standing with Globo-homo. He reeks of lies, sin and depravity—like his father.

For the record, Benedict XVI is the pope.

∞
Anonymous January 31, 2022, 6:33 AM

I was with you for the first part of this sentence:

“The “enemy” is our individual unwillingness…” because I believe that it is “the criminal inside my hat” that is the most malignant enemy I face and my greatest accuser. That same criminal is also my closest neighbor, and so…care, careful care of that relationship.

“And from the days of John the Baptist until now, the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent bear it away.” – Matthew 11:12

I’m 55. I named my 31 y.o. daughter Flannery. For nearly 31 years I had been trying to understand the title of her short story “The Violent Bear It Away”… Yes, I am slow to “get” things, well, slower than the fastest 10%. Finally, this summer I took the time to really sink into that scripture and prayed for understanding. What I came away with is this…

As no one evil can bear to stand before God, and as God art in Heaven, then I must not allow my self – my desires, inclinations, lusts, and general concupiscence – to take precedence over grace given to me to overcome my selfishness. “He must increase, I must decrease.” This is a “violence” to the self which is always trying to assert it’s own wants, needs and desires. Self-mastery given to serve God Almighty as he would use me.

At the same time, it means that, as the love of Jesus Christ – the Son of Man and God – grows within, the other part, the All Me that is weak with concupiscence is the nearest neighbor of the New Me and this “New Me” needs to be all virtue towards “All Me”, including patient and kind and forgiving.

I realize that is very naval-gazey. Some get it immediately and can move on to other “neighbors” residing in their homes, and other understand it so thoroughly they are able to travel to the other side of the planet and do violence to external devils – God be with them! – but, woe to those who haven’t conquered the criminal inside their own hat and try to exterminate demons from others.

Please pray for us Catholics at this time. We will be measured be a longer stick.

∞
- Amy January 31, 2022, 6:35 AM
  
  o0ps. that above comment is mine. careless Anonymouse.
  
  ∞

bubba January 31, 2022, 7:08 AM

We don’t need to keep score, God can. If we keep score then He keeps our score too. When we ask for forgiveness and then we are forgiving to others our score can be wiped clean.

∞

Dirk January 31, 2022, 8:55 AM

I have zero pity for any man or woman who bends at the whim of the state. Never apologize for doing your job, or your position. No doubt this fellas a good guy, you break once in these easy time, war of words, there is no doubt you will break when shit gets really tough.

Friends I’m in a very dangerous place in my head. I’ve grown tired er of govts nonsense.

Tic Toc!

VI

∞

Mike Austin January 31, 2022, 10:31 AM

Being tired of government nonsense is normal. It no longer exhausts me, as I no longer look at the American government in all its doings and all its sayings as anything but beneath contempt. It is a farce, a circus act, a parade of deluded and compromised wretches who have no connection with the real world or with normal people.

∞

ghostsniper January 31, 2022, 10:44 AM

I think of all things gov’t as “speedbumps” on the highway of life, and have pretty much carved a new highway of my own so as to more easily avoid them. Not completely, but maybe 95% of gov’t does not exist in my realm. There still exists that 5% that can cause untold mayhem and I try my best to stay out of it’s way.

“In an insane world only the outlaws make sense.”
–gs, 2099__The Raging Patriot__

∞
- RedBeard February 2, 2022, 12:38 PM
  
  That’s quite an interesting “realm” you have there.
  
  And who is this “Raging Patriot” you refer to? A hero from the year 2099?
  
  ∞

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