Well, if the criminal is kicking in your front door at 3am the answer is clear right? Buckshot.
But what if the criminal is just roaming around out there, and so are you, does that make a diff?
Just because you are roaming around out there does that mean the criminal gets to bother you?
If the criminal is just another SD on the skreet your response is hot lead, right?
Then shouldn’t your response be the same for ANY criminal?
That’s where all of this is going but it’s going to require a whole lot more people to become victims of the criminals before they rise up on their hind legs and start doing something about it.
Thing is, by the time it gets to that point the criminals will have moved the goal posts again and the next thing you know they will be accosting people right in the sheets at 3am. The herd members always seem to be on the trailing edge and the criminals in the lead.
Dr. JayMay 5, 2020, 2:32 PM
“The suspense is terrible . . . I hope it will last.” – Willi Wonka
Kevin in PAMay 5, 2020, 3:16 PM
The trouble with all that Title 18 stuff is that it requires an agent of the state to file the charges and prosecute the case. Generally speaking, that doesn’t happen.
It is the classic case of the fox guarding the henhouse.
A city council, or a mayor, or a governor can decide to mandate mask wearing, arbitrarily close businesses, or forbid people from freely assembling. They can impose fines or even arrest and jail time for offenders.
Is it constitutional? No. But what does the constitution matter when the state, or even a city council passes an ordinance, and the police department obeys the order to enforce it? Maybe you remember the horseback mounted cops last week at Huntington Beach CA standing in a tight line, and forbidding citizens from walking on the beach.
Poor Joe Citizen may be within his constitutional rights to defy the law. If he does, he’ll get his ass kicked, hauled off to jail, and fined thousands of dollars.
Of course, Poor Joe Citizen has the right to challenge the law in court. But this is after he’s been beaten, arrested, and fined. All poor Joe needs now is the money, and time to mount a constitutional level challenge to an unconstitutional law. The city, or the state, or the feds have lots of lawyers and endless tax funded resources. Not one city or state official will part with a dime out of pocket in lawyer’s fees. Poor Joe Citizen has his “rights”, and a depleted bank account.
Short version. Our “rights” are no longer worth the parchment they were written on.
JWM
HMay 5, 2020, 7:00 PM
And even if Joe Citizen wins his case, there’s always this: “John Marshall has made his decision; now let him enforce it.” Andrew Jackson
Yep Ghost, Yep JWM, yep H, & I have to admit I’m probably part of the problem. I know, enjoy and am willing to defend my rights. However I’m also am quite willing to walk 3 or 4 blocks out of my way to avoid a confrontation, be it with the lawless or the law.
I suspect most folks, including you guys, do the same thing even if it’s only 1 or 2 blocks out of your way. If you have confidence in yourself, shucky darn, you don’t bother to confront unless absolutely necessary.
Having said that, for me there is a line the villains can’t safely cross, & I suspect that’s true for most folks.
Intellectual disgrace
Stares from every human face,
And the seas of pity lie
Locked and frozen in each eye.
Follow, poet, follow right
To the bottom of the night,
With your unconstraining voice
Still persuade us to rejoice.
With the farming of a verse
Make a vineyard of the curse,
Sing of human unsuccess
In a rapture of distress.
In the deserts of the heart
Let the healing fountains start,
In the prison of his days
Teach the free man how to praise.
— WH Auden
TWAIN IN TESLA’S LABORATORY
from “Chimes of Freedom”
Even though a cloud’s white curtain in a far-off corner flashed
An’ the hypnotic splattered mist was slowly lifting
Electric light still struck like arrows, fired but for the ones
Condemned to drift or else be kept from drifting
Tolling for the searching ones, on their speechless, seeking trail
For the lonesome-hearted lovers with too personal a tale
An’ for each unharmful, gentle soul misplaced inside a jail
An’ we gazed upon the chimes of freedom flashing
Starry-eyed an’ laughing as I recall when we were caught
Trapped by no track of hours for they hanged suspended
As we listened one last time an’ we watched with one last look
Spellbound an’ swallowed ’til the tolling ended
Tolling for the aching ones whose wounds cannot be nursed
For the countless confused, accused, misused, strung-out ones an’ worse
An’ for every hung-up person in the whole wide universe
An’ we gazed upon the chimes of freedom flashing
The painter stood Before her work She looked around every where She saw the pictures and she painted them She picked the colors from the air Green to green Red to red Yellow to yellow In the light Black to black When the evening comes Blue to blue In the night
To the Stonecutters
Stone-cutters fighting time with marble, you foredefeated
Challengers of oblivion
Eat cynical earnings, knowing rock splits, records fall down,
The square-limbed Roman letters
Scale in the thaws, wear in the rain. The poet as well
Builds his monument mockingly;
For man will be blotted out, the blithe earth die, the brave sun
Die blind and blacken to the heart:
Yet stones have stood for a thousand years, and pained
thoughts found
The honey of peace in old poems.
— Robinson Jeffers
Search American Digest’s Back Pages
Contemplation of the Sword
Reason will not decide at last; the sword will decide.
The sword: an obsolete instrument of bronze or steel,
formerly used to kill men, but here
In the sense of a symbol. The sword: that is: the storms
and counter-storms of general destruction; killing
of men,
Destruction of all goods and materials; massacre, more or
less intentional, of children and women;
Destruction poured down from wings, the air made accomplice,
the innocent air
Perverted into assassin and poisoner.
The sword: that is: treachery and cowardice, incredible
baseness, incredible courage, loyalties, insanities.
The sword: weeping and despair, mass-enslavement,
mass-torture, frustration of all hopes
That starred man’s forehead. Tyranny for freedom, horror for
happiness, famine for bread, carrion for children.
Reason will not decide at last, the sword will decide.
from Preludes
His soul stretched tight across the skies
That fade behind a city block,
Or trampled by insistent feet
At four and five and six o’clock;
And short square fingers stuffing pipes,
And evening newspapers, and eyes
Assured of certain certainties,
The conscience of a blackened street
Impatient to assume the world.
I am moved by fancies that are curled
Around these images, and cling:
The notion of some infinitely gentle
Infinitely suffering thing.
Wipe your hand across your mouth, and laugh;
The worlds revolve like ancient women
Gathering fuel in vacant lots.
— Eliot
from Canto CXV BY EZRA POUND
The scientists are in terror
and the European mind stops
Wyndham Lewis chose blindness
rather than have his mind stop.
Night under wind mid garofani,
the petals are almost still
Mozart, Linnaeus, Sulmona,
When one’s friends hate each other
how can there be peace in the world?
Their asperities diverted me in my green time.
A blown husk that is finished
but the light sings eternal
a pale flare over marshes
where the salt hay whispers to tide’s change
Time, space,
neither life nor death is the answer.
And of man seeking good,
doing evil.
In meiner Heimat
where the dead walked
and the living were made of cardboard.
“From a student radical/hippie/leftist of the Free Speech Movement/Vietnam Day Commitee era and a full-on Democratic Liberal in the decades after, I think I’ve evolved a politics that is neither right nor left but is, in its elemental nature, draconian. In the last 20 years, I’ve taken apart my beliefs with a sledgehammer. Now I’ve got to put the surviving parts back together with tweezers and other ‘shabby equipment, always deteriorating’.”
Ferreya
ARTIST: GIBSON
Edwin Deakin, American
Hillegas
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Gerard Van der Leun
1692 MANGROVE AVE
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from “Chimes of Freedom”
Even though a cloud’s white curtain in a far-off corner flashed
An’ the hypnotic splattered mist was slowly lifting
Electric light still struck like arrows, fired but for the ones
Condemned to drift or else be kept from drifting
Tolling for the searching ones, on their speechless, seeking trail
For the lonesome-hearted lovers with too personal a tale
An’ for each unharmful, gentle soul misplaced inside a jail
An’ we gazed upon the chimes of freedom flashing
Starry-eyed an’ laughing as I recall when we were caught
Trapped by no track of hours for they hanged suspended
As we listened one last time an’ we watched with one last look
Spellbound an’ swallowed ’til the tolling ended
Tolling for the aching ones whose wounds cannot be nursed
For the countless confused, accused, misused, strung-out ones an’ worse
An’ for every hung-up person in the whole wide universe
An’ we gazed upon the chimes of freedom flashing
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Even though a cloud’s white curtain in a far-off corner flashed
Stone-cutters fighting time with marble, you foredefeated
The scientists are in terror
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Section 242 Title 18 my ass.
By definition a criminal ignores laws, now what?
Well, if the criminal is kicking in your front door at 3am the answer is clear right? Buckshot.
But what if the criminal is just roaming around out there, and so are you, does that make a diff?
Just because you are roaming around out there does that mean the criminal gets to bother you?
If the criminal is just another SD on the skreet your response is hot lead, right?
Then shouldn’t your response be the same for ANY criminal?
That’s where all of this is going but it’s going to require a whole lot more people to become victims of the criminals before they rise up on their hind legs and start doing something about it.
Thing is, by the time it gets to that point the criminals will have moved the goal posts again and the next thing you know they will be accosting people right in the sheets at 3am. The herd members always seem to be on the trailing edge and the criminals in the lead.
“The suspense is terrible . . . I hope it will last.” – Willi Wonka
The trouble with all that Title 18 stuff is that it requires an agent of the state to file the charges and prosecute the case. Generally speaking, that doesn’t happen.
It is the classic case of the fox guarding the henhouse.
A city council, or a mayor, or a governor can decide to mandate mask wearing, arbitrarily close businesses, or forbid people from freely assembling. They can impose fines or even arrest and jail time for offenders.
Is it constitutional? No. But what does the constitution matter when the state, or even a city council passes an ordinance, and the police department obeys the order to enforce it? Maybe you remember the horseback mounted cops last week at Huntington Beach CA standing in a tight line, and forbidding citizens from walking on the beach.
Poor Joe Citizen may be within his constitutional rights to defy the law. If he does, he’ll get his ass kicked, hauled off to jail, and fined thousands of dollars.
Of course, Poor Joe Citizen has the right to challenge the law in court. But this is after he’s been beaten, arrested, and fined. All poor Joe needs now is the money, and time to mount a constitutional level challenge to an unconstitutional law. The city, or the state, or the feds have lots of lawyers and endless tax funded resources. Not one city or state official will part with a dime out of pocket in lawyer’s fees. Poor Joe Citizen has his “rights”, and a depleted bank account.
Short version. Our “rights” are no longer worth the parchment they were written on.
JWM
And even if Joe Citizen wins his case, there’s always this: “John Marshall has made his decision; now let him enforce it.” Andrew Jackson
Yep Ghost, Yep JWM, yep H, & I have to admit I’m probably part of the problem. I know, enjoy and am willing to defend my rights. However I’m also am quite willing to walk 3 or 4 blocks out of my way to avoid a confrontation, be it with the lawless or the law.
I suspect most folks, including you guys, do the same thing even if it’s only 1 or 2 blocks out of your way. If you have confidence in yourself, shucky darn, you don’t bother to confront unless absolutely necessary.
Having said that, for me there is a line the villains can’t safely cross, & I suspect that’s true for most folks.