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June 16, 2015

Taxes are, well, taxing.

So we don't need to argue like Republicans or democrats about whether a "tax increase" is good or bad for the economy, or whether a "tax cut" is good or bad for the economy.
You don't make an economy go stronger or faster, by increasing taxes. It is a fact. It is nomenclature. Taxes, by their nature, hurt the economy. They labor it. They make it anemic when it would otherwise be strong. This, too, is fact. This, too, is simple nomenclature. -- The Morgan

Posted by gerardvanderleun at June 16, 2015 9:19 AM. This is an entry on the sideblog of American Digest: Check it out.

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Productive use of taxes:
1. helping to fund research for clean water from polluted and/or non-potable water.
2. rewarding, via limited-time lower tax rates, private sector, process and product improvements -- improved efficiency electricity generation, car motors, robotics for dangerous environment use, ...
3. funding/rewarding research leading to better cost/effective medical systems.
4. Essential military support, childhood disease research support, ...
5-10,000. You fill in the rest.

It's what you do with the lemons you're given: make a sourpuss or lemonade. Choose the necessary best and set aside the rest.

Posted by: Stug Guts [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 16, 2015 9:48 AM

There can be no productive use from stolen money.

Posted by: ghostsniper [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 16, 2015 10:40 AM

Well, living in Ethiopia or Haiti you don't have to pay any taxes. I'm surprised people don't move to some third-world shithole to avoid the tax man.

Staunch supporters to the No Tax government have agreed to stay off of all roads and highways, not use electricity, no doctors, no food and health controls, every man for himself.

Instead of using stolen money why don't we just not use anything the money has bought? That'll show 'em.

Posted by: chasmatic [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 17, 2015 5:54 AM

Why in the world would anyone stop using that which they were forced to pay for?

Posted by: ghostsniper [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 17, 2015 12:10 PM

Suppose there is such a thing as an agreed to social contract for those willing to enter that obligation. The rights, responsibilities and benefits derived from that agreement are paid for by an agreed to system of taxes -- agreed to by the contract's parties.
Those taxes would not be considered 'stolen money' but rather a fee for a beneficial-for-all investment.

Stolen money would become a reality if the contract members lose or give up control of the rules of fee assessment to scoundrels. Greed control sometimes calls for the blood of patriots and the blood of scoundrels.
If you don't believe me, ask King George of 1776, or King John of Magna Carta time.
Resist and remove the rot as quickly as possible lest you become the rot.

Posted by: Stug Guts [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 17, 2015 3:38 PM

Better idea: Just make it a full fledged legal contract with teeth both ways and be done with it.

You know, like in reality?

If that is not preferable, then try user fees.
Use it, pay for it.
Don't use it, don't pay for it.
I'm talking about DIRECT use, not some interlinked and assumed associations.

Want an army, pay for it and leave people that don't alone. And don't get me started on that free rider bullshit.

Posted by: ghostsniper [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 17, 2015 8:15 PM

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