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November 5, 2012

The Cloward-Pivens of the right

The fact that his vote might end up causing Romney to lose and Obama to win is irrelevant to this man.

He and others of his ilk, who might be addressed by Bill Whittle's video but who close themselves to its message and who look instead to the imminent arrival of an economic apocalypse, have more in common with the far left than they think they do. They are the Cloward-Pivenistas of the right. They believe that, if things get bad enough, the system will break down and enough people will see the light and then the true conservative dawn will break. -- conservative dawn will break. --- neo-neocon

Posted by gerardvanderleun at November 5, 2012 1:27 PM. This is an entry on the sideblog of American Digest: Check it out.

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Neo-con indeed.

Posted by: james wilson at November 5, 2012 2:24 PM

Power to the dead voting block, the registerd fictional characters (I heard Hitler registered in Ohio) and Gary Johnson voters!! Forward!! Voting is the best revenge...

Posted by: RedCarolina at November 5, 2012 7:49 PM

No one is talking about how Jesus might just steal this election from Romney. Bill Keller, internet evangelist extraordinaire supposedly gotten more than a million promises of people who've signed his online pledge to write Jesus'name in the 'other' candidate's slot for president. It might be interesting to see if Ron Paul, Gary Johnson and Jesus manage to steal a Romney victory. If that happens, I am sure there are people who would like to crucify both Paul and Johnson, but what to do with Jesus, right?
Neo made a salient point that the Cloward-Pivenses and Pauls are Utopists. This is true, but the die-hard evangelicals can sometimes be apocalyptic in their vision of things to come. Ann Barnhardt used to be an evangelical Christian before becoming a doom-filled Catholic.
Interesting times, friends, interesting times.

Posted by: Jewel at November 5, 2012 9:53 PM

Not so much utopian as silly. It's a vote; it's not a doctural thesis.

Posted by: Brett_McS at November 6, 2012 12:40 AM

The only thing that matters in the end is who is left standing. It won't be the meek.

Posted by: Peccable at November 6, 2012 2:51 AM

Tryin' to make some sense of it all
But I can see there makes no sense at all
Is it cool to go to sleep on the floor
I don't think that I can take any more
Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right
Here I am stuck in the middle with you

Posted by: tim at November 6, 2012 4:33 AM

Cloward-Pivens indeed ... There are many folks who are hoping for the crash of the economic system in order to attain a libertarian gold-based currency utopia. Gerald Celente, Jim Sinclair, Martin Armstrong just to name a few.

While Cloward-Pivens is an apt comparison, "conservative" they are not. They're absolutely not interested in a conservative dawn, rather they seem to be more interested in a Godless libertarian utopia where nobody and no dreaded patriarchal institution (i.e. religion) promotes a value system other than their own.

They claim to be free market, but when it comes to ideas libertarianism should be the most free.

Posted by: edaddy at November 6, 2012 5:23 AM

Cloward-Piven is the underpants gnome business plan for politics. 1) Collapse system 2) ??? 3) We win somehow!

Or "Never waste a crisis? Sometimes the crisis wastes you!"

Posted by: Mikey NTH at November 6, 2012 6:48 AM

I guess we should have been more specific back in the desperate "Anyone But Obama" days.

Posted by: RedCarolina at November 6, 2012 2:06 PM

Or in regards to Cloward-Piven:

There are any number of Trotskys - there is only one Stalin. Take care, comrades.

Posted by: Mikey NTH at November 6, 2012 6:19 PM

Nov 7, 2012

We're gonna find out.
I've moved my investments to two things:
TIPS -the government WILL be the last one down... and metals (brass, lead and mercury)

Posted by: bud at November 7, 2012 4:39 PM

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