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April 9, 2012

Debyshire's "The Talk:" Outlandish? I don't think so.

One wonders though why the Left and nominal Right have gotten so piqued by a purportedly"outlandish" column. For reference, imagine if Derbyshire wrote a column about Mormon riots, Chinese incompetence, or the Illuminati taking over. I presume that no one would give it a second thought. Why? Because it really is "outlandish"; Derbyshire hit a nerve precisely because everything he said is absolutely true and everyone knows it. --OneSTDV: Defending John Derbyshire's The Talk: Chris Rock and Dishonest Media

Posted by gerardvanderleun at April 9, 2012 10:22 AM. This is an entry on the sideblog of American Digest: Check it out.

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"Whether he went on with the diary, or whether he did not go on with it, made no difference. The Thought Police would get him just the same. He had committed— would still have committed, even if he had never set pen to paper— the essential crime that contained all others in itself. Thoughtcrime, they called it. Thoughtcrime was not a thing that could be concealed forever. You might dodge successfully for a while, even for years, but sooner or later they were bound to get you."

Posted by: monkeyfan at April 9, 2012 12:12 PM

Is the Wall of Silence finally breaking?

Are Unspeakable Words at last being spoken aloud?

More importantly, are Unthinkable Thoughts at last being examined fearlessly by "respectable" conservatives who until now dared not admit their existence?

If so, we've got a shot at solving the race problem of America without bloodshed. But if not, if the Clampdown tries to derbyshire he who dasses speak the truth, if it's play Pretend of suffer the Consequences, then sooner or later it's race war. And any solution imposed in a race war is going to be final.

We cannot, we must not let it come to that. Folks, if you love this country, if you truly want nothing but the best for people of all races, then for God's sake be honest with yourselves about black and white in America. Don't withdraw into the comfortable Martin Luther King fantasy the Powers That Be have draped over you. Throw off the blanket of lies and face reality without fear.

Posted by: Robert Oculus III at April 9, 2012 12:51 PM

I read Derbyshire's piece on Taki's site a few days before everybody put their drawers on backwards over it.

To me, he was just making sense. The only thing I questioned was the IQ information, and Derbyshire didn't make that up. It is as good as the source he used.

All of my black friends over the years have been average to well above average in intelligence, but I've mostly associated with professionals. The truly stupid black people I have met were mostly criminals or politicians -- but I repeat myself.

Posted by: mushroom at April 9, 2012 1:02 PM

I agree, Gerard - Derbyshire's talk wasn't outlandish. Even though I wish to Christ that it was. The state of black America today makes me want to weep. A not-insignificant number of my recent ancestors were black. Religious, family-minded, educated and talented, they were active participants in the Underground Railroad, harboring escaped slaves in their Michigan farmhouse. I often wonder what they, and those like them, would think of what has become of the descendents of those slaves: free to be educated, too many choose ignorance; free to be married and raise their children, instead of having their families broken and taken from them, too many choose bastardy; free to live according to their faith, too many choose... I don't even know what. Reverend Wright's class of hatred, I suppose. Free to transcend themselves, and too many choose to be "No Limit Niggas."

It doesn't have to be that way for them. But to say that's not how it is would be a lie, and pretending otherwise isn't ever going to make things better.

I wish Derbyshire were wrong. Instead, because I love my son, some day I will have to give him most of that advice - provided he hasn't already learned it the hard way.

Posted by: Julie at April 9, 2012 1:13 PM

What Derbyshire wrote is true about a certain segment of blacks. What the percentage is exactly, I don't know. It is noticeable for two reasons.
1. They are a minority that stands out because of skin color.
2. They are protected by the media and they are egged on to see themselves as victims by race hustlers.
3. Because of 2. they are probably more aggressive and violent than they would be otherwise.

What I also know is that there is a segment of the white population that are what, for lack of a better description, I refer to as white trash. These people account for more crime than the rest of the white population but are less noticeable because:
1. They look like most of us.
2. They are not considered victims and are not egged on by anyone that I know of.
3. Because of 2. they tend to be less aggressive and violent.

I live in an agricultural area. We have a lot of latinos living here. Most of them are hard working people and create no problems. However, there is a segment of this ethnic group that creates more than their share of crime and violence in this area. We have gang related shootings almost every month. These shootings are mostly in a certain section of town - which I avoid like the plague.

Two of the trainers at the gym I use are black. I have not met two finer young men than they are. So, I do not like to see them lumped in with the black trouble makers.

My point is that Debyshire's advice is good, but can be applied to other segments of the population that are also violent and can be a danger to your well being.

My grandmother had a saying that I think applies to most of humanity:
"Birds of a feather flock together.
So do pigs and swine.
Ducks and geese will have their choice,
And so will I have mine."

Be discerning about your surroundings and those you associate with. Good advice today and probably as long as society lasts.

Posted by: Jimmy J. at April 9, 2012 2:54 PM

Jimmy - good points, and they parallel some things I've been thinking. It also helps to look across the pond to certain areas of England: those which were formerly very blue-collar, but which now have a high percentage of folks on the dole. I would give my kid the same advice about the people in such areas, if I lived over there. It's not the skin color, it's the tribalism.

Posted by: Julie at April 9, 2012 3:43 PM

My previous job, there was one black woman on our team. She was never married, had two kids, each from a different man. The older son was arrested for bank robbery. I wish I was making this up but I'm not. Civilization just does not become some people.

Posted by: S-Cargo at April 10, 2012 8:50 AM

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