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November 3, 2010

Cobb's Right. California Has Not Yet Bottomed. But It's Coming

I'm one of the perverse who hopes that the fiscal collapse will be catastrophically swift and surprising.

Like the blackouts last time. Like when Orange Country went broke. That's what it takes out here - constitutional crisis of mind blowing proportions. We've got Brown; we've got Boxer. Nothing changes except the intelligibility of gubernatorial sound bites. -- You're A Mean One, Mr. Gridlock - Cobb

Posted by Vanderleun at November 3, 2010 2:46 AM. This is an entry on the sideblog of American Digest: Check it out.

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States like Michigan and California haven't slid into the fetid sewer over decades due to one bad event. Life happens and the people in those states keep making bad choices. They will not do the right thing until all other options are exhausted. I just wish the people fleeing the sewers of Michigan and California would have a little humility when they arrive at their new home and immediately begin lecturing the locals about how we don't know how to do things well.

Posted by: Scott M at November 3, 2010 3:42 AM

As happy as I am for the rest of the country, I am kind of heartsick about California. Brown, Boxer, Prop 23 (now we're all fucked economy-wise) Prop 25 ( can people be so stupid as to allow these creatures to get around 2/3 for ANYTHING?) even the wretchedest of them all, Loretta Sanchez gets re-elected. What is a human to do?
And trust me, brother, if I do end up moving somewhere else, I would be as humble as a goddam mouse. The only thing this place has going for it is the weather. Anything people have anything to do with is ROYALLY screwed up, and will be for a long time.

Posted by: MPH at November 3, 2010 5:40 AM

California has been baking bread with her seed grain for quite a while.

Last night she began drinking sea water to quench her thirst.

Soon she will begin bleeding her body to cure her anemia.

Posted by: Mumblix Grumph at November 3, 2010 6:45 AM

And thus my dreams of being to able to afford to drive a car again have been effectively flushed down the drain. Looks like I beat the rush when it comes to people who don't particularly care about the environment who commute on bikes anyway.

Anybody got a room to rent who's NOT in California? Just know up front that I wouldn't be particularly humble, though. As a lifelong Californian, and as a religious, conservative Republican who's spent the last six years working at a Barnes & Noble, I've earned the right to grouse about political idiocy wherever I live.

In other news, pot addicts should be glad their bill didn't pass since, with the passing of the other bills, the cost of weed would have jumped to about 100x its street value. You know, to pay for overhead and make sure it's medically primo enough for approval by the FDA.

Posted by: Cameron Wood at November 3, 2010 8:49 AM

What is wrong with those people?

Posted by: Fat Man at November 3, 2010 10:15 AM

California may finally decide to turn around when she finds herself lying naked with a severe hangover next to a smelly, hairy man on a filthy mattress in what appears to be a crackhouse.

We can only hope.

Posted by: Don Rodrigo at November 3, 2010 10:34 AM

Hey Scott M, why don't you take back all the refuse that's been arriving here from the other 49 states (and the 'immigrants' from south of the border) since the 1960's?
Those of us Californians who have been here for generations are outvoted by the fruitcakes that came here for free love, gay love, dope, and Hollywood dreams...It drives us to the point of despair because this is our home, where are families are and have been...where the hell are we supposed to go? "...when they arrive at their new home and immediately begin lecturing the locals about how we don't know how to do things well." That's exactly how we feel here in California!!
Boxer? From Brooklyn
Pelosi? Baltimore
Maxine Waters? St. Louis
I could go on...
It feels like the freakin' Alamo out here!
Look at what is 'blue' in California...The Bay Area and LA. The dem machine runs the urban, at the expense of us in suburbs or country.
Believe me, every conversation I've had this morning has been by fellow depressed Californians who feel screwed, with no way out, all hoping that this place DOES go into the shitter, if only to see if the idiots will wake up...
We're screwed.

Posted by: Uncle Jefe at November 3, 2010 10:37 AM

It sounds like California needs a different brand of people, but they won't come if there aren't enough quality jobs, which these days requires a different mindset to create. Catch-22.

Of course a mass migration of red-staters bringing business with them and a willingnes to defy California regulations could do the trick. It worked for Mexicans in California, didn't it?

Posted by: Don Rodrigo at November 3, 2010 10:40 AM

It's just a sad and easily observable fact that addicts of any kind seldom kick until they've found their own bottom. (If then - far too many of them simply crash through the bottom to their deaths.) California is still quite a bit above theirs, insulated by natural wealth, a shrinking but still vast pool of talent and hard work, and one of the kindest and most gorgeous physical environments on earth.

But I believe Gerard's scenario is the likely one. Some event will trigger a cascade failure, and the rest of us will be able to do nothing but shield our eyes and our children as best we can. With yesterday's tragic election of Brown, the day of reckoning is surely moved even closer. California's economy is eighth largest in the world. Financially illiterate liberals seem determined to push it, and perhaps the world economy with it, right over the cliff.

Posted by: raincityjazz at November 3, 2010 12:12 PM

Silicon Valley isn't going anywhere. The Central Valley isn't going anywhere. Hollywood isn't going anywhere. Biotech in California isn't going anywhere. They will continue to churn out cash. (It's almost the only set of businesses in the country that are cash positive) It's the state bureaucracy itself that will fail.

California is also, as quiet as its kept, an Asian paradise, and of course as everyone knows, a Mexican pugatory - anything better than the Hell of Chiapas, et al. Those people aren't likely to flee either. Not any time soon.

Upscale families only leave California for Denver, Austin, Phoenix & Seattle. But that's a very slow trickle. Here's what I think we're going to see. Teacher strikes, muni worker strike and blue flu.

Posted by: Cobb at November 3, 2010 3:44 PM

Some people are so delusional, they never hit bottom. They just die. THEN they are surprised.

Posted by: Jewel at November 3, 2010 7:34 PM

Uncle Jeff it's long past time for all the responsible Californians to stage widespread civil disobedience. Look at what the tree huggers will do to coerce the government to act. The hippies and the communists will do whatever it takes to win.

The jails and roads are already full so the system is extra vulnerable to reasonable numbers of protesters in numerous locations bringing roads to a halt. There is no way the police can arrest everyone blocking roads in dozens of different locations every day. What did the anti- Prop 8 people do when they lost? They sought out prop 8 contributors and harassed them individually. Protest at the homes of politicians and judges that are taking your freedom away. Let them worry 24/7 if everyone will be restrained.

Posted by: Scott M at November 4, 2010 3:31 AM

There is nothing in California that can't be cured by a bankruptcy judge, except the quality of it's people. We find a lot of that around the county.

In fact, there is nothing that can be fixed in California except by a bankruptcy judge. He would already have been finished with his work if Obama hadn't sent the crack check for state government. Don't think he gets to do that again.

Posted by: james wilson at November 4, 2010 8:39 AM

Interesting KFI/John and Ken observation - when gerrymandering is a factor, like it is in electing politicians, it's almost impossible to un-seat the kook Dems (Pelosi got re-elected at 82%!!!). But when gerrymandering is not a factor, i.e. the state wide proposition elections, CA has voted for strict 3-strike laws against criminals, Jessica's law, banning gay marriage, prop 13, etc. The people need to take control of politicians - take down gerrymandering and make it a fair fight where politicians have to stand on principles.

Posted by: Neil at November 4, 2010 8:30 PM

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