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(UPDATED & Bumped) Playing in Traffic: The Last 2 Minutes of a Young Protestor’s Life on I-5 Seattle

Video made by the another “protestor” who was also hit but still, at this time, survives in intensive care.

Scene: A “Black Femme March” and blockade of I-5 done with the help of Seattle Police and Washington Highway Patrol which has evidently been shutting down this portion of I-5 through Seattle for most of the month.

UPDATE: The full ironic stream of the “Diaz Love Was Live” video. Diaz Love was working closely with Summer Taylor, the non-binary who lost him/her/it life. It’s nearly but you can skip ahead to 1:28   to see how inane, useless, and banal the entire I-5 “Protest” was.

Some driver/manager from Door Dash come around a corner into more shadowy lighting of I-5 (I’ve lived in Seattle and driven this at night.). Suddenly there are these mostly black-clad bodies in front of him and he zigs. Black-clad “protestors” zag but two zig right in front of him as he swerves to miss the others. And the one filming is one of those hit as you can see at the end.

Postscript: Protestor killed is white. Driver of Doordash is black from Somalia.

PPS: The Washington Highway Patrol has now decided that letting children play on I-5 at night in Seattle is not a good idea and says that they are, by Gum, going to stop it. Wanna bet?

Accident as it happened. Warning: Graphic

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  • Freddo July 5, 2020, 2:00 PM

    Immigrants: doing the dirty jobs that Americans refuse to do. I’m not enjoying this, I’m just feeling non-binary sadness.

  • Jewel July 5, 2020, 2:18 PM

    I wonder if her life mattered. She was white, after all.

  • captflee July 5, 2020, 2:29 PM

    Mom was right; don’t play in the road.

  • ghostsniper July 5, 2020, 2:39 PM

    The irony of the “Summer of Love”.

  • Jack July 5, 2020, 2:58 PM

    Thus for all marxist non-binary black lies matter activists. Too bad the driver didn’t take out an even dozen or two or three.

  • PA Cat July 5, 2020, 3:27 PM

    For Jewel– “I wonder if her life mattered. She was white, after all.”

    According to Kamala Harris (consider the source, I know), the non-binary person’s preferred pronoun was “they,” so we should say “They were white, after all.”

  • jwm July 5, 2020, 4:16 PM

    Gee… uh- Gosh, I mean…
    No, really!
    Bummer, man…


  • Sonny July 5, 2020, 4:16 PM

    Playing in the road can be dangerous. Isn’t blocking an Interstate HWY illegal?

  • Lance de Boyle July 5, 2020, 4:20 PM

    “No confusing of the real (laws of physics, cars on a highway, flesh vs. metal) and the ideal (‘Cars! Ha! We fart in their general direction! We won’t get hit. After all, we are the righteous. We are in the know. Our cause is forever, and so are WE.’) goes unpunished.” Wolfgang “Wolfie” von Goethe.

  • Sid V July 5, 2020, 5:22 PM

    I’d be interested to know what they thought protesting at 2:00 am in the morning was supposed to accomplish, a month plus after Saint Floyd’s untimely demise. No press, just a few civilians to inconvenience at that hour – how completely stupid.

  • Casey Klahn July 5, 2020, 5:27 PM

    Although I am enjoying some dark humor over this, it is sadder than hell. Sad the stupidity of the rioters (there are no more protesters – only dupes and fodder for the riotous) and sad the incompetence of the state police. Maybe I’ve gotten too old, but the Seattle cops and the state patrol seem like children to me. Of course, their leadership are cringeworthy stupid.

    Seattle. Seattle. Once a brilliant and beautiful city. Now, the dipshit runs deeply for those who remain. My cohort of friends (re: militia) who live there are welcome at my place when the balloon goes up.

  • BGARRETT July 5, 2020, 5:38 PM

    get out of the road STUPID

  • jo July 5, 2020, 5:40 PM

    a person from Somalia can afford a Jaguar on a door dash salary????

  • Gordon Scott July 5, 2020, 5:44 PM

    We had something similar 6 days after George Floyd was killed. The authorities went along with a protest march that intended to use I-35W, both sides. The state patrol shut down all of the traffic and entrances. Except, they didn’t, and a tanker truck (empty) came over a hill and found a thousand people in front of him.

    The driver had just made a delivery at a black-owned station ( I know the owner). He was on his way home. Police had failed to block one entrance, and he used it. One would think he might wonder at his aloneness, but who knows? The most fortunate thing is, he was empty. Had he had full tanks, he wouldn’t have been able to stop in time.

    The crowd, men, women, children, parted in front of him as he was stopping. One woman didn’t get out of the way, but she wasn’t really hurt. He got beat up by the crowd, but not badly. He has not been charged.

    This happened at 3 in the afternoon. At night, perhaps the driver is distracted, who knows? We have not been told if our public safety commissars have chosen to change the foolish policy of allowing such nonsense.

  • Terry July 5, 2020, 5:53 PM

    Morons on State or Fed highway at 2 AM wearing black. Useful idiots, morons, imbeciles. Survival instinct missing or on pause. Honk once, hammer the gas pedal to the floor.

  • Auntie Analogue July 5, 2020, 6:16 PM

    May God have mercy on the soul of the deceased.

    That said, and said sincerely, does anyone else miss National Lampoon’s gag headlines, for instance . . . :


  • pbird July 5, 2020, 6:25 PM

    Many commenters, here and there have made me ashamed to identify with the right. What the hell is the matter with people?

  • ghostsniper July 5, 2020, 6:33 PM

    Can you explain that question pbird?

  • f smith July 5, 2020, 6:46 PM

    Sorry, but much of the commenting here is out of line. This is a terribly sad event. Whatever you think of this young lady (who none of you know, I dare say), it is awful that she died, and that this driver will now have to live with the consequences, whether he is criminally (or civilly) liable or not. Obviously, many mistakes were made, starting with trying to close down I-5, even if it was 1:30 am, so that protesters could … what? Dance in the freeway? Sick. What moron came up with that idea?

    This is horrible, and to try to make political points over it is wrong. She was an American, one of us, she did not deserve to die, and her parents do not deserve to have to suffer as they will, likely for the rest of their lives.

  • Vanderleun July 5, 2020, 7:26 PM

    I take your point, Smith. It is indeed a tragedy for the parents and the driver as well. It is a tragedy in which the rioters of well over a month in Seattle are implicated. It is a death in which the Mayor and city council of Seattle participated in setting up with the active collusion of the Washington Highway Patrol. And all of it, ALL OF IT, was done for political motives every step and instant of the way. Political motives the rational of which escape me. Protest on AN INTERSTATE AT NIGHT? I guess the BLMonsters and the mayor and the Highway Patrol just thought it would be easier than using their many powers and equipment to actually, you know, enforce the law. They didn’t and now REALITY enforces the laws of speed x mass = momentum = death. It’s not that the death of this non-binary is too tragic to be political. It is political from root to branch. The dead person died while in the midst of filming a 5-hour POLITICAL video glorying in s/he’s ability to romp about on an Interstate at night WITH NO CONSEQUENCES.

    A fatal error as we now know. And if you read the stream at twitter #seattleprotest you will see that they were spinning this politically before and after s/he’s death. It is tragic to say that this death is ab ovo a political point, but that is what it is and will remain.

    By the way, many black souls were killed in New York and Chicago over the weekend, but those lives will not matter. Not matter at all.

  • buddhaha July 5, 2020, 7:31 PM

    The difference between the tanker truck incident in Minneapolis and this is police culpability.

    In Minneapolis, the police shut down (or tried to) the freeway because that was the best of a number of poor alternatives. The numbers of “protesters” was too large to move off the freeway, so they shut it down, as opposed to letting the negative consequences of 40 or 50 being run over teach the idiots not to do that.

    In Seattle, the police took the easy way out for themselves. If you look at the video, there were, at most, 60 what-ever-they-want-to-call-themselves striding onto the freeway, where they proceeded to shout call and response slogans, sit and smoke, video themselves, and line dance. Yes, they were treating a multi-lane freeway through downtown Seattle as their own private dance floor. The hell with the massive inconvenience and economic losses generated, the cops decided it was the path of least resistance to block the freeway every night for a week to indulge their self-important fantasies.

    These deaths are a result of police failures, just as much as Eric Garner or George Floyd.

  • Gringo July 5, 2020, 7:51 PM

    f smith
    She was an American, one of us,…
    Regarding the binary, stuff, my response is that’s sad.
    Had I said to her/they/it (binary), “All lives matter,” I most likely would have gotten a nasty response. I am reminded of the Harvard grad who tweeted she would stab someone who said, “All lives matter.”

    Her/they/it being on the freeway indicates to me that she/they/it(binary) was a supporter of BLM and/or Antifa. Antifa’s gratuitous violence over the years makes me an enemy. BLM and I are enemies, if only for BLM founders’ Marxist roots and their support of tyrants like Castro or Maduro. No organization supporting those 2 is up to any good.

    If any good can come of this, it is that the parties concerned conclude that they are playing dangerous games, and should cease and desist. The irresponsible government officials that permit blocking interstate highways are setting innocent people up for injury or death. As such, those blocking interstate highways should be removed ASAP from the scene- which is the policy a responsible government would have.

    From the side of the protesters, one would hope some would come out of this with the realization that these aren’t mere games they are playing. There are consequences, not all of them pleasant. A freeway is not a place to play and act out fantasies.

  • Casey Klahn July 5, 2020, 8:09 PM

    I expect much, way, extra-much, waaaay better from the LEO and politicians in my state. Instead, I get this. They have completely lost my respect and I will remember this whole stupidity for a very long time.

    The denizens of Seattle are not the sharpest knives in the drawer. It is mind-numbing to watch the idiocy, and yet the stupid multiplies. Others around the nation look to the high jinx in Seattle, and want to repeat it in their own cities. It is much bigger than the poor lady who died standing in the middle of I-5 at night.

    Back to dark humor: maybe there will be fewer real voters to vote back in our democrat politicians. Ahem.

  • Gordon Scott July 5, 2020, 8:10 PM

    Buddhaha, in Minneapolis it wasn’t a sudden event. Police here knew the protesters planned to use the freeway. Every law enforcement person in and around that event reported to a Democrat, who had ordered the police to cooperate with the protesters. But the cops messed up and one entrance didn’t get blocked.

    In Seattle the cops work for Jenny Durkin. She’s the one who decided protesters could dance on I-5 at 2 a.m. And again, someone screwed up, and a vehicle got past the barricades.

    It is a tragedy the girl was killed and another likely crippled. But here’s the thing: they volunteered.

    Oh, sure, they thought it could not happen. And there’s a gal in Minneapolis who lost an eye to a police rubber bullet. She thought it couldn’t happen. Hey, she was a “peaceful protester!”

    We are not stupid. We will not swallow the lies. The people who burned and looted Minneapolis and St Paul were aided and abetted by the “peaceful protesters.” The “peaceful protesters” knew damn well that the violence was coming out of their protective mass, and the perps then retreated into that mass without consequence. We all watched it happen. We will not let the authorities lie to our faces.

    The girls in the video were talking about how they were going to accuse a police officer. Had that officer done something wrong? We don’t know. Would these girls lie about it? Absofuckinglutely. Every time some protester screamed in fake agony while being arrested, that protester set George Floyd up to be killed. Guy says he can’t breathe? They all say that. They’re all liars. That is everyday reality for the police.

    The cop who killed Floyd failed in his duty. His failure caused the death of a man in his custody. He should suffer for this. He will.

    But those two girls volunteered to do something utterly stupid and deadly. I am sorry for the grief of their families. But my sympathy does not switch off my bullshit detector.

  • Auntie Analogue July 5, 2020, 8:11 PM

    So much of left-wing thought is a kind of playing with fire by people who don’t even know that fire is hot. ” – George Orwell

  • Gordon Scott July 5, 2020, 8:21 PM

    Oh, and the politicians who chose to let protesters onto the freeway? They are culpable in their supine response to stupid ideas. That applies to the mayors who told the police to let looters and arsonists run wild. This applies to politicians who stand back and watch statues be destroyed.

    They are failing in their duty, they are venal, they are culpable.

    Phew. Meanwhile, my tomatoes are coming on gangbusters. I have a beautiful crop of raspberries ripening. My right leg is almost fully functional again, and pain free.

    Tuesday I’m going over to the burned out Third Precinct, and I am going to paint over all of the obscene anti-police graffiti that is on the Jersey barriers surrounding the building. Wish me luck!

  • John The River July 5, 2020, 8:50 PM

    There are two famous events on the “Protest Highways” so far. There are injured and dead.
    And there are innocent people who were failed by the public officials that were supposed to prevent herds of jackasses (yet human) from cavorting on the highway as if it were a stage and causing them to experience the horror and the sick feeling of having smashed and ridden over human beings like speed bumps.

    I wish those drivers had hit Governors or Mayors instead.

  • Freddo July 6, 2020, 3:26 AM

    When I read – on page 18 in the paper, or on page 6 of a news website – about a mudslide burying half a village in some Asian country, that is a tragedy. That gives me pause, and makes me appreciate the place where I live some more.

    When I read about some supporter of Antifa or ISIS dieing, not so much. They have aligned themselves with the forces of evil, and IMO the world is a better place for their passing. No tears for people eager to establish re-education camps or caliphates.

  • Fuel Filter July 6, 2020, 4:06 AM

    “ No tears for people eager to establish re-education camps or caliphates.”


  • ghostsniper July 6, 2020, 4:06 AM

    While “accidents” can be tragedy’s, behaving stupid is not, and these people were behaving stupid.
    Their retarded bloodline stops here, as it should.
    Stop letting your little gurl emotions control you.
    Do you think these two wouldn’t set your house on fire while you sleep?
    Have you not been paying attention at all?
    Harden the fuk up, buttercup, or end up the way these mental misfits did.

    A great culling is happening, as it must.
    It seems there are more stupid people now, than not.
    Nature is out of balance and will right itself.

  • Annie Rose July 6, 2020, 4:30 AM

    Truly sad and so unnecessary. Cannon fodder for the BLM movement. Watching the 10PM Chicago news I noticed that there were so many deaths, including little children, in just one day/ night, that the newscast had to break up the stories with other types of stories. They never did provide a total of shot/ killed. It took 15 minutes for them to do the killing field stories, interspersed with glorifying “peaceful“ BLM protestors. Almost all the shot/killed were attending family backyard bbq’s when someone pulled up and shot into the crowd. As the police captain sadly commented, “Be careful who you invite to your party and bbq.” Black gang on gang violence is a nightly affair in certain neighborhoods and has been for years.

  • John Venlet July 6, 2020, 5:02 AM

    I’m sorry, you’re sorry, they’re sorry, everybody’s sorry. It was a tragedy, it was the cops’ fault, it was it was the mayor’s fault, the governor’s fault, blah, blah, blah. No. It was the person who was killed fault. Period.

    Billy Beck once said, “Everybody gets to go to hell in their own handcart.”, meaning as an individual in these here United States of America you get to choose what to, or not, to do, it is your personal choice. This person chose poorly. Very poorly. And while there is no doubt in my mind that a string of culpability which led to this individual’s death could easily be followed, it does not release the dead individual from the consequences of their personal choice.

  • butch July 6, 2020, 5:29 AM

    I will not mourn the death of those who hate me and all I cherish, especially when that death is due to their own stupidity. In fact, I will laugh. Does that make me a bad person? So be it. Those pearl clutchers who are ashamed can just fuck right off.

  • Snakepit Kansas July 6, 2020, 6:10 AM

    What would have happened to the driver if he had slowed down and been stopped? Since he was black, he likely would have gotten a pass. If he had been white most likely his car would have been beat up at a minimum. He might have gotten a good ass kicking if he allowed them to pull him out of the car. At minimum how long would they have held him up? I have clients in Lynnwood and drive up I5 at least a couple times per year. I don’t need any of that nonsense. Why in God’s name would the state police allow this occupation of a highway happen? Such an outcome was inevitable.

    The total disrespect for personal and public property is shameful. Tearing up businesses, looting, burning and holding up good folks who are working to provide for their families. Senior leaders allowing these dangerous gatherings are fools for letting this go on. I am happy this does not go in in my area but in major liberal enclaves.

  • ghostsniper July 6, 2020, 7:09 AM

    “Why in God’s name would the state police allow this occupation of a highway happen? ”
    Good point Snake.
    In another thread some were touting the godlike power of the county sheriff, that even the mayor must bow to their command. Where was the sheriff when this was going on? There were multiple levels of hugely paid gov’t employees NOT doing their jobs. Where are the lawyers and their lawsuit trucks when needed? If they refuse to do the jobs they were hired for, bankrupt their bloated asses.

  • Terry July 6, 2020, 7:49 AM

    To a couple of sheeple commenters on this thread- Our nation is under violent attack by the Leftists, Communists. We. Are. At war. If the enemy taunts me by standing in the middle of a highway at 2 AM, SPLAT. Good riddance.

    Enemy. Get it or die.

  • LB1901 July 6, 2020, 8:13 AM

    If this dead woman didn’t know Jesus Christ as her Lord and Savior, the tragedy of her lifeless mortal body will be the least of her eternal problems. As for my emotional response to her death, it is … non-binary.

  • James ONeil July 6, 2020, 8:39 AM

    Smith: “… awful that she died… no one deserves… political points… her parents do not deserve to have to suffer … starting with “Sorry, but much of the commenting here is out of line.”

    Nope. Everybody dies, sometimes awfully. Most seldom get what they deserve. Her being there was all about political points. Her actions, not comments here, led to her parents suffering. Her poor choices were out of line. The comments and castigations here may (or may not) help others to make better choices.

  • Jack July 6, 2020, 8:48 AM

    I am always saddened by the death of anyone of good conscience, good will and good moral character and standards that contribute to peace and happiness and the health and spiritual growth of others.

    I am never saddened by the death of anarchists, marxists, criminals or any other sob of any persuasion who plots and works to upend the order and freedom offered in an established Republic that exists for the peace and welfare of its citizens.

    All of these ‘protestors’ are communist anarchists who have been part and parcel of the destruction of Seattle. They are members and/or supporters of the rock throwing, howling sh*t packs and patrols that took control of the city and turned it into a war zone. They are accomplices to all of the evil that has been perpetuated by similar actions, even in other cities and no one should believe for a second that these howling a-holes wouldn’t be happy to destroy anyone whose views differed from their own.

    No one was holding a gun to the heads of anyone who thought it clever to camp out on an interstate in the early hours of the morning and regardless of its dangers, these marxists thought it a good idea. There they could gather, sit in the middle of the fast lane, smoke a little weed, commiserate over their causes, plan future destructions and idolize each other for their brillance and their hatred. They thought they were safe.

    They are only one enemy of the US, there are many others and I’ll not mourn their deaths for a second. Instead I will hope that there are many, many more.

  • Nori July 6, 2020, 9:06 AM

    Being young means you have limited life experience. This person made a foolish choice,and was allowed to do so by the governing elders in her home state. Bad decisions all around. With luck,perhaps some of the people involved in this will learn that choices can,and often do,have unintended consequences.
    The “non-binary” nonsense reminded me that the new 4473’s that will be shipped at the end of July will have that category. Yes,it was approved. Male,Female,or Non-Binary.
    Apparently our federal overlords consider a person so mentally ill they can’t figure out their own genitalia is sane enough to buy a gun.
    More unintended consequences,or no? Gee,it’s almost like they do this sh*t on purpose.

  • Snakepit Kansas July 6, 2020, 10:19 AM

    4473s also have a category asking if you are non-hispanic white.

  • azlibertarian July 6, 2020, 10:23 AM

    …They thought they were safe.

    If I may, [t]hey thought they were safe because they thought they had the protection of the state to engage in this nonsense.

    …The “non-binary” nonsense reminded me that the new 4473’s that will be shipped at the end of July will have that category….

    One question that I’ve always had is this: If someone gazes into their navel so long and so deep that they decide that their gender (obvious to anyone looking less than a foot south of their gaze) is now ambiguous, and they then later decide that they really are male or female, how do all those past identifications on 4473’s or any other official document account for this sudden change?

  • Casey Klahn July 6, 2020, 10:24 AM

    If there even is another election in WA or King County or Seattle, then a GOPe committee somewhere ought to make this part of a meme or a campaign ad. Full force. ad some shooting sprees and shitting Antifascists in CHAZ for good measure.

    The democrat party is nothing more than a criminal enterprise. And, their hands are on the levers and rheostats of power in my Evergreen State.

  • Harry July 6, 2020, 10:25 AM

    jo, exactly what I was thinking.

  • PA Cat July 6, 2020, 11:17 AM

    FWIW: Here is a video of the I-5 incident from a different angle; some of the “protesters” saw the car coming from some distance away and shouted to the dancers to get out of the way. Some obviously chose not to:


  • Dex Quire July 6, 2020, 1:07 PM

    Take last January before covid, before the riots …. driving through Seattle on I-5, noting about 15 construction cranes swinging around downtown, my passenger, a friend, said, “Seattle downtown looks like Capitalism Gone Wild. Why do you (he’s from Bellevue, WA) keep electing these proto-commie morons for mayor and city council?”

    — Good question. And a near life-long resident of Seattle, I don’t know the answer. Something in the water? Rainier Beer — or maybe Olympia Beer used to have a motto ‘It’s the water’.

    — When the police left the East Precinct they filed out much as the eunuchs filed out of The Forbidden City in the movie ‘The Last Emperor’, the police carrying their small box of files much as the eunuch’s carried out their excised genitals in small boxes.

    — For years I’ve been after the Republican party to set up some kind of presence in south Seattle. We have 2 decent community centers where they could rent a room one day a week and just have open hours to talk to kids wandering in and out. Keep sodas or coffee and chips on hand. Just be there. Create a presence. Most kids in the south end have never talked to a Republican. Nothing. Nada.

    — I want to support the police but when they give free rein to looters and gangsters while shutting down restaurants and nail salons … well …

    — I live in south Seattle where property destruction has been going on for years in the form of graffiti on small business buildings. The police never stopped them. This has been essentially a tax on small businesses for over a decade. The city does not care. I spent 2 hours with a Seattle city councilman telling him of the hardship this causes. I helped him outline a solution: graveyard foot patrols of experienced street cops who could scout and nail the perps. You would have to apply for a grant if the department did not have the money but that shouldn’t be too hard. You would have to put the cases before special — hand- picked — judges since most judges won’t prosecute under-18 graffiti perps. Of course nothing happened. Nada. My sense is that a big part of BLM and antifa is these totally lawless graffiti kids who have had free rein for over a decade in south Seattle, Seattle’s Central Area and the south part of Capito Hill, which was recently taken over by the punks.

    — In short, a long series of declensions has led to the present do-nothing … for years the city’s supposed leaders have done nothing to stop lawlessness. They were hypnotized by the huge bags of development money loaded in from construction companies all over the world. Recently a freeway bypass (The Alaskan Way Viaduct) was removed from downtown Seattle, granting the city an unobstructed view of the Olympic Mountains and its beautiful Elliott Bay. Seattle would become one of the few west coast cities with an unobstructed, accessible waterfront (most west coast waterfront cities used their waterfronts as industrial rail-spikes (Tacoma), or barge traffic (Portland)). San Francisco might be the only other one with an unobstructed bay view. Downtown real estate prices bumped up accordingly. Now downtown Seattle looks like a giant homeless encampment, with huge sheets of plywood and pressed wood over glass over all the fine stores and buildings of the central city. It’s a fine example of a sheisse-hole. Nothing. Nada.

  • KC July 6, 2020, 2:36 PM

    Play stupid games. Win stupid prizes.

  • Casey Klahn July 6, 2020, 3:24 PM

    Those beautiful docks, in Seattle, Tacoma, Olympia, Everett, Aberdeen and Hoquiam were not only for commerce, but they were the entry points for Wobblies going back as far as 1917, and probably before that. The watering holes from Pike Place on up were hang-outs for seditionist rats: The Comet, The Blue Moon, several places on The Ave. If you stumbled into one alone, you got the evil eye from hunched clutches of commie thugs.
    Watch Seattle is Dying, which was a report on KOMO News that somehow actually reported the events surrounding the trashing of Seattle and King County. If you were homeless, and you arrived in Seattle without drugs, they handed you some and then let you do petty crime to your heart’s delight. The cops were there to serve your slacker lifestyle, and didn’t even have time to apply the law to their target perps: Mr and Mrs Ken and Karen Seattle. That’s right – the law only applied now to middle-class whites, and not to minorities or the homeless. They got the slack.
    While you and I were reeling from the strangeness, the city council was implementing a Progressive Marxist agenda.
    Welcome to 1984, suckers.

  • Capt. J.A. Snyder July 7, 2020, 5:25 AM

    Well He /She Them They were white. Him /he / them is a black immigrant. X cancels z. Equal victim status so no cirme.

  • Fuel Filter July 7, 2020, 5:43 AM

    Did anyone else get the “This video is unavailable” message on the original? It came thru the other day, no problem.

    I reloaded the page thrice and no luck.