WHEN in the course of human Events, it becomes necessary….
People the Totalitarians Kill
byVanderleunonJanuary 30, 2020
A few days after Holocaust Remembrance Day and while the diseased Democrats among us toy with nominating a Communist for president it’s good to remember who dies when these diseased minds take control. On the Holocaust – Martin van Creveld notesI want to present you with a long quote on the topic. A sort of catharsis, if you will. It was written by the Jewish-Soviet author Vassily Grossman (1905-64) and refers to the autumn of 1943. About two and a half years into the Russo-German war, at a time when the author was attached to the Red Army as it re-occupied the Ukraine. I came across it by accident not long ago, and it has been haunting me ever since.
“Killed were the old artisans and experienced craftsmen: tailors, haters, cobblers, tin-smiths, jewelers, painters, furriers, and bookbinders; killed were the workers, porters, mechanics, electricians, carpenters, stonemasons, and plumbers; killed were the wagoners, tractor operators, truck drivers, and cabinet-makers; killed were the water carriers, millers, bakers, and cooks; killed were the doctors; physicians, dentists, surgeons, and gynecologists; killed were the scientists: bacteriologists, biochemists, and directors of university clinics, killed were the history, algebra, and trigonometry teachers; killed were the lecturers, assistant professors, asters and PhD’s, killed were the civil engineers, architects, and engine designers; killed were the accountants, bookkeepers, salesmen, supply gents, secretaries, and night guards; killed were the grade school teachers and seamstresses; killed were the grandmothers who knew how to knit socks, bake tasty cookies, cook chicken soup, and make apple strudels with nuts, as well as the grandmothers who could not do any of those things but could only love their children and their children’s children; killed were the women who were faithful to their husbands and the loose women too; killed were the beautiful girls, serious students, and giggly schoolgirls; killed were the plain and the foolish; killed were the hunchbacks, killed were the singers, killed were the blind, killed were the deaf, killed were the violinists and pianists, killed were the two- and three year-olds; killed were the eighty-year old men with their eyes clouded by cataracts, their old transparent fingers and soft voices like rustling paper; and killed were the crying babies sucking at their mothers’ breasts to the very last moment.”
ghost- Great minds and all that. I’ve been sitting here looking for a non-flower definition of “asters.” Anyone?
But surely they won’t come for the woke, will they?
Millie WoodsJanuary 30, 2020, 7:51 PM
“But surely they won’t come for the woke, will they?”
Who do you think was doing all the killing?
DaveJanuary 30, 2020, 8:54 PM
The quote is as written at: https://www.martin-van-creveld.com/holocaust/
Certainly it likely should have been “hatters” those who make hats. The other may have been “masters” as in “. . . assistant professors, MASTERS and PhD’s, . . . ” listed among college terms, having a Masters degree.
How else do you effect change? Kill the hell out of everything that makes a society and culture. They did like to kill the first revolutionaries and the counter-revolutionaries and then, after being in charge for a few years it was yer fukking turn to be kilt.
Hmm. Maybe that’s why Bernie can be an old as dirt white guy, and get nominated? It wouldn’t matter how long he survived after he won the election anyway. Light switches: on.
John VenletJanuary 31, 2020, 5:04 AM
Based on the time frame van Creveld is speaking about, the Ukraine in 1943, when the Soviets were on the offensive and driving the Germans back towards Germany, I think van Creveld is speaking about the indiscriminate killing perpetrated by the Germans in their sick attempts to eliminate the Jews of Europe, rather than the commies’ attempts to create a commie paradise in Russia. The first war crimes trials were not the Nuremberg trials, but rather the Kharhov trials, held by the Soviets, in the Ukraine, in December 1943.
This is not to say that the purity mindset which infected the Nazis, is not the same disease which effects the commies.
PunditarianJanuary 31, 2020, 6:15 AM
van Creveld is quoting Grossman, who is describing the victims of the Germans, who were killed both by Einsatzgruppen and in death camps,
PunditarianFebruary 1, 2020, 7:29 PM
Incidentally, Vasily Grossman’s “Stalingrad” is a titanic read that includes, among other great sections, the interviews/interrogations between a Nazi investigator and a Soviet (old Bolshevik as I recall) prisoner, in which the Nazi demonstrates the identical natures of the Nazi and Soviet regimes. The novel was not published in the USSR – even Grossman’s typewriter ribbons were confiscated – but a copy was smuggled to the west. He was the most celebrated war correspondent in the country and had seemingly unlimited access to the commanders who defended the city in the title. But he also portrayed the street-fighting. His descriptions of Jews transported from their homes to gas chambers are harrowing, and based on what he knew of what happened to his mother.
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Should the 2nd trade be “hatters”?
ghost- Great minds and all that. I’ve been sitting here looking for a non-flower definition of “asters.” Anyone?
But surely they won’t come for the woke, will they?
“But surely they won’t come for the woke, will they?”
Who do you think was doing all the killing?
The quote is as written at: https://www.martin-van-creveld.com/holocaust/
Certainly it likely should have been “hatters” those who make hats. The other may have been “masters” as in “. . . assistant professors, MASTERS and PhD’s, . . . ” listed among college terms, having a Masters degree.
How else do you effect change? Kill the hell out of everything that makes a society and culture. They did like to kill the first revolutionaries and the counter-revolutionaries and then, after being in charge for a few years it was yer fukking turn to be kilt.
Hmm. Maybe that’s why Bernie can be an old as dirt white guy, and get nominated? It wouldn’t matter how long he survived after he won the election anyway. Light switches: on.
Based on the time frame van Creveld is speaking about, the Ukraine in 1943, when the Soviets were on the offensive and driving the Germans back towards Germany, I think van Creveld is speaking about the indiscriminate killing perpetrated by the Germans in their sick attempts to eliminate the Jews of Europe, rather than the commies’ attempts to create a commie paradise in Russia. The first war crimes trials were not the Nuremberg trials, but rather the Kharhov trials, held by the Soviets, in the Ukraine, in December 1943.
This is not to say that the purity mindset which infected the Nazis, is not the same disease which effects the commies.
van Creveld is quoting Grossman, who is describing the victims of the Germans, who were killed both by Einsatzgruppen and in death camps,
Incidentally, Vasily Grossman’s “Stalingrad” is a titanic read that includes, among other great sections, the interviews/interrogations between a Nazi investigator and a Soviet (old Bolshevik as I recall) prisoner, in which the Nazi demonstrates the identical natures of the Nazi and Soviet regimes. The novel was not published in the USSR – even Grossman’s typewriter ribbons were confiscated – but a copy was smuggled to the west. He was the most celebrated war correspondent in the country and had seemingly unlimited access to the commanders who defended the city in the title. But he also portrayed the street-fighting. His descriptions of Jews transported from their homes to gas chambers are harrowing, and based on what he knew of what happened to his mother.