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Open thread 2/16/24

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  • ghostsniper February 16, 2024, 10:40 AM

    I’m not convinced there is a concerted effort, neither globally or nationally, by mysterious entities to sell/kill/maim/control the population wholesale.

    What I do believe is that this country and much of the world is currently experiencing the effects of extreme incompetence, laziness, and criminality over a long period of time.

    I also expect this trend to contine unabated until such time that physics deems it impossible.
    That which cannot be, will not be.

    Everybody has their own little pet peeve as to when the train started going off the tracks and for me that line was in 1913 when the federal reserve was created and a national income tax was levied. In the absence of those two things it is unlikely we would be where we are today. A lot of things that happened since then simply could not have occurred. None of the wars since that time that the US was involved with would have occurred because they simply were not affordable.

    By taking control of the US money the Federal Reserve has created a pathway to destruction, and with the levying of the income tax, the working population has been enslaved to pay for the Federal Reserve. It is a criminal loop that has damaged all of the citizens and benefitted some. This criminal loop continues to this day and has crossed a rubicon that cannot be sustained much longer nor can it ever be repaired. The damage has gone on for so long that, like a cancer it is killing the host.

    How far can you go into debt before you cannpt go any further?
    That is where we are right now.
    The US politicians, the ones that for at least the past 40 years have not even been able to balance their own checkbooks, have wasted so much money that, combined with barely coherent accounting practices, there is no way to know how much they have wasted. Also for the past 40 years there has been a concerted effort for all levels of gov’t to favor diversity hires which has compounded the problems and crimes exponentially. Everything is so complicated and overlapping and none of the workers have the IQ to even know where to start.

    In gov’t now, nobody knows what’s going on, nobody really cares, and everybody is stealing everything they can get their hands on. There’s a feeling in the air and everybody feels it. Gov’t employees feel it too and because they are in closest proximity to the cookie jar are grabbing with both hands right out in the open. Why not? You would too if you were a gov’t employee. Free money! Who wouldn’t grab as much as they can? Nobody is held accountable for anything, so only a retarded fool would NOT take as much as they can.

    Honesty always falls before temptation when there is no accountability.
    Nobody thinks they are going to get caught, and what if they did?

    I really don’t see anyway around the massive global upheaval that looms. It is so large that it will consume everything everywhere. Nothing will be spared. Atlas himself may buckle under. There is some light at the end of the tunnel but you’re still not going to like it.

    The approaching burn off will take the low hanging fruit first. The parasites at the bottom – 1/3 of the populace. They will not fall far because they are already mostly in the gutter.

    Next, the burnishing tool will eradicate the shiny stuff on the top – 1/3 of the populace. The rungs will be knocked off their lofty ladders from the top down, one by one. They will suffer the most pain because they have the farthest to fall and what a harsh fall it will be.

    The middle 1/3 will also suffer but they will also be the most successful group because they have been dealing with trials and tribulations, successfully, all of their lives. Of that 1/3 in the middle, those in the center of that strata will be the most successful. Not the young, which need the support of others, and not the elderly that require medicine regularly due to their age and lifestyle. But those solidly in the middle of the middle, they are the ones most likely to survive what is coming. There are exceptions in all 3 groups, but those exceptions are not the rule. There will be enormous despair across the spectrum of the population and the ensuing burn off will continue for a very long time, perhaps decades. Maybe a century or more. Yes. the crater will be that big.

    I’ve heard it said that we are heading back to the 17th century. All of the industrial age, back to before the advent of the steam engine, is where we’ll bottom out. Everything that has been developed since the early 1800’s has been stair step built upon the developements before it. Yes, we stand on the shoulders of giants and when the foundation they stand on fails we all come tumbling down.

    When is all of this going to happen?
    I don’t believe it will happen all at once.
    There will not be an overnight sudden collapse.
    You are seeing collapses right now, everywhere, everyday, if you pay attention.
    As an example, note the more and more frequent airline failures. They seem to be happening weekly now. But we can’t really tell because the failed mainstream media is constantly lying and putting out false information.

    Note the medical establishments failures, those in academics, the gov’t at all levels, the corporations that are floundering and dropping out. Little by little it is all going away. Yeah, it’s a pain that the fast food joint on the corner closed a few months ago but there’s another one across the street. Then you see that they are having problems hiring people and their supply chain is having issues.

    Same with the other companies all around you, they are all facing increasingly difficult issues. Every one of them is searching desperately for direction and finding no easy way. Just inevitable failure. So they too try to loot the coffers anyway they can, adding to the overall slow-but-accellerating collapse. When you go to the store and see there is no milk or bread you’ll know it’s time to look for an exit sign. But by then it will be too late for you and your family. You will be trapped in the gyre.

    My best suggestion to you is to pay a lot of attention to Townsends on YouTube.


    I mean REALLY pay attention.
    Put yourself in the picture, because sooner than you know you may very well wish that you had.

    gs, 2099

    • james wilson February 17, 2024, 1:52 PM

      1865, Ghost. The Republic was no longer a republic. All things became possible, or, rather, inevitable.

      Menchen–The American people, North and South, went into the War as citizens of their respective states; they came out as subjects of one.

      • ghostsniper February 17, 2024, 5:56 PM

        Glad to see you here again James.
        As I said in the 4th paragraph, everyone has their own idea when the train went off the rails.

        • james wilson February 21, 2024, 2:40 AM

          This was Mantesquieu’s idea, Ghost. The Framers held him in the highest esteem of all political theorist, and yet he wrote that there was one thing a republic cannot be–large. The Framers work-around was to make the states soveriegn, the central government weak with the sole exception of enumerated powers. The war turned that on its head and now all things were possible.

  • Joe Krill February 16, 2024, 1:22 PM

    Ghostsniper, You said, “I really don’t see anyway around the massive global upheaval that looms.” I say, if we, as a nation, turn back to God, and I mean not just lip service, we will change the course that the “world” is traveling. Unfortunately, we have taken God out of the picture. It started in the 30’s when the communists infiltrated the Catholic Seminaries and approximately 15 years later the universities. Bad part is most preachers do not care. They are making too much money hyping the end time scenario.

    • John Venlet February 16, 2024, 2:19 PM

      Unfortunately, we have taken God out of the picture.

      True, Joe, and as you noted many preachers seem to have taken God out of the picture also, not to mention twisting the words of the gospel such that they lack any impetus to guide individuals towards living a life geared towards righteousness.

      Show me thy ways, O Lord, and teach me thy paths. Psalm 25:4

      • DT February 16, 2024, 4:01 PM

        I learned a long time ago to never trust a preacher (or a pope – but I wasn’t raised catholic). “Church” isn’t some building with a committee deciding a new building budget; God isn’t there. I can “get” God while wandering around God’s works.

        • John Venlet February 17, 2024, 4:20 AM

          True, DT, but I did not say anything about preachers or churches. I only quoted a short verse of Scripture.

          • DT February 17, 2024, 3:33 PM

            Well, yes you did mention preachers in response to Joe … but I mostly agree with you (and Joe).
            Here’s a couple of verses:
            Matt 10:24
            Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
            Luke 12:51
            Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:
            Luke 22:36
            Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.

    • ghostsniper February 16, 2024, 2:34 PM

      It’s not a national choice Joe, it’s an individual choice.
      Everybody gets to decide how to live, morally or immorally.

      It’s fairly easy to live morally if you don’t surround yourself with immorality.
      Look at the cities, millions of people cramped together in little shoe boxes.
      One corrupt person blends into the next and on and on and no 0ne is the wiser.
      Til you get to where you are and no one can tell the diff but every one knows something is wrong.

      You claim “we have taken God out of the picture” but that’s a simplified view.
      Again, everyone gets to make a choice, even the “saved”.

      I acquired a new piece of reading material a few months ago when I asked Ann Barnhardt for a recommendation for a bible. She told me this:

      I got the first one. Much of it I already knew.

      • DT February 16, 2024, 4:03 PM

        I find the majority of the “saved” to be the worst of hypocrites; I trust them less than preachers. Not that by any means do I consider myself a saint: not good enough for heaven, not bad enough for hell.

      • Joe Krill February 16, 2024, 7:38 PM

        I have not found one that can claim purity but the Jerusalem Bible–1966 Red Hardcover comes close. Can only buy from eBay. When your leaders are corrupt, have no moral compass, when your church leaders do not know how to use a Concordance and only spout what they were taught for their particular denomination, when laws are written to protect the guilty and destroy the innocent, when you work your butt off to just make a living and have to rely on those who are schooled in the finer art of pablum puking, then it is very difficult to place the blame squarely on the individual. We have taken God out of the picture and in life I have found that sometimes the simplest answer is the one that makes the most sense. I will take common sense any day over educated pablum.

  • ghostsniper February 16, 2024, 1:36 PM

    We’re finally getting our White Christmas right now – 2 months late. Yeah, it’s been almost 2 months since Christmas already. Time flies, huh?

    It started coming down about 2 hours ago with about 4″ on the ground now, and expected to continue for about 6 more hours – so, maybe a foot total?

    Cool. My wife will break out the sled over the weekend. She likes that. Shannon like it too. When we were outside awhile ago she was making her version of snow angels. She gets on her back in the snow and waggles back and forth erratically, then gets up and shakes the snow off, then dives right back in it.

    Earlier I loaded several suet cages and feeders close to my office and the birds are going frantic. Trying to pack in as many calories as possible before settling down for the night. There’s a cardinal on my window feeder right now, all puffed up. He’s as wide as he is tall. And he’s standing such that his curtains hang down over his feets, keeping them from the slight wind, and warmish.

    As I said, that feeder is on my office window. It’s clear plastic, about 12″ x 12″ and sucker cupped to the glass. On that inside window sill I have a small webcam on a clamped – elbow type of mount and it’s trained right on that feeder. So I see the birds Godzilla size on one of my monitors. Cool.

    The temp is 29 right now and will drop to the low teens overnight, so for supper tonight I will prepare my legendary Tex-Mex Chili with loaded home made Ensenada Sriracha chips. Chase the whole mess down with a few snorts of Fireball and a couple barrels of Hamm’s. While stuffing our faces we’ll be watching Anatomy of a Murder (1959, Jimmy Stewart, Lee Remick). DAWG!!!

  • Anne February 16, 2024, 11:20 PM

    It was just several months ago when both the UK and Australia, as well as the US were bragging about unemployment was dropping the economy was stabilizing, etc. Now, all of a sudden the past several weeks all three are reporting a different story. It looks to me as if those governments were working together to tell the same story in order to prevent panic.

  • Jim in Oxford February 17, 2024, 3:35 AM

    . . . Time is the school in which we learn,
    Time is the fire in which we burn.

    Delmore Schwartz, from “Calmly We Walk Through This April’s Day”

  • ghostsniper February 17, 2024, 3:48 AM

    Judge Arthur Engoron claims Trump is guilty of illegally inflating his wealth on financial statements that were given to banks and insurers to make deals and secure favorable loans and fines him $355m and a three-year ban on doing business in the state.

    The judge is a democrat and 3 things you can always count on is they are 1) simple minded, 2) deeply envious of others, and 3) congenital liars.

    I expect Trump will never pay a cent toward that fine and it will eventually be found to be fraudulent just like all the other dem charges.

    BTW: Who is supposed to benefit from that $355mil?
    NYFC gov’t?
    The same NYFC gov’t that is heavily in debt due to multiple instances of malfeasance?

    If I was a bitter person I would suggest that judge to be dragged.

  • Anne February 17, 2024, 11:15 AM

    Today is my big 80th ! “Dear Lord” I am so grateful for all that you have given.

    I would have loved to be able to go to my old church and say thank you and take communion. I was raised in the traditional Episcopal church. My minister was from England, he came over to the states sometime before WWII A kind soul and well-read, he had a keen mind. He taught us well to balance the world according to the teachings of Christ and Bible. He understood that the US was the best evidence of what a population living, or trying to live, within the confines of those teachings was the best example yet. He understood that each individual had the obligation to live their days with grace to each and to the whole community. He supported the sometime need to defend our country with the military. Years later, my church was the first and easiest to fall to the new ideologies. I still go here for a retreat: https://www.bookofcommonprayer.net The problem with this site is that the book used is the 1979 version. There used to be a site for the 1929 version, but that has disappeared. The 1979 version is the “great re-write”. It was the first step toward destruction, because it was re-written by people who wanted to save the church from the already declining attendance. The writers wanted the book to make the hippies happy–they took away the words of Grace and substituted the words of the Democratic party!

    I lost my Prayer Book and Bible–the ones I had used while growing up. We are one of those couples who had their house broken into by a gang of thieves with a moving truck. According to the neighbors they thought we were moving because it was a nice big modern truck and the men worked so rapidly. The went in and stripped everything out in less than an hour. The San Francisco police told us they knew about this gang, but there was nothing they could do to help us find our things. They knew the theives would take everything to a large building somewhere and sort through it making separate piles for: Saturday Market, Antiques buyers, Art Dealers, used furniture dealers, dumpster. I often wonder where they put my little Prayer Book and Bible. They also got THE family album. It had just been passed down to me–pictures from 1905 to the present. I suppose that went into the dumpster. Oh, and the beautiful little porcelain doll my father brought home after the war–I search constantly for that in the antique doll collections. It was as if the house had burned down as there was nothing left.
    That theft happened in San Francisco in 1982. We moved out of California then.

    I have twice in this life relied on the legal system to help resolve a problem –they refused both times. But other than these events I am so grateful for this life–when I look around and see what others have endured I have to say “Thank You Lord”. “Thank You and Help Us Please during these difficult times” I have been so blessed!

    • ghostsniper February 17, 2024, 12:24 PM

      Happy Birthday Anne!!!
      And 80 mooooore….

      I have never had to rely on the justice system, but I have called the cops twice, but not lately.
      Once when I was a victim of huge (to me) theft, and once more when I witnessed multiple incidents of crimes.

      Both time the cops showed up I thought I was in twilight zone.
      If they hadn’t had uniforms on I would have thought they were low level marketing students.
      Both times I told them to get the fuk away from me and I walked off.
      Pathetic and despicable parasites.
      I’ll never call them again.

      Make that husband of yours take you out for a nice supper, or better yet, prepare a nice supper for you at home and do all the clean up afterward while you sit back, loosen the belt, and relax. You deserve it!

      • Joe Krill February 17, 2024, 6:15 PM

        Happy Birthday Anne and may you be Blessed with many more. Your light still shines bright. Joe Krill

    • DT February 17, 2024, 3:36 PM

      Anne: Perhaps this is what you seek?

      • Anne February 18, 2024, 9:32 PM

        DT Thank you so much for that link. I will try to get my old Apple to work with this info!

        • DT February 19, 2024, 3:54 PM

          You’re welcome 🙂

  • Anne February 17, 2024, 11:21 AM

    I forgot to say “Thank you” for the good people here at AD ! You are all a gift!

    • SK February 17, 2024, 12:17 PM

      Happy Birthday Anne. Wishing you a beautiful day and a wonderful year.

      What you described happened also at my Episcopal church. I left and joined an Anglican Church- part of the Diocese of the Missouri Valley of the Anglican Church in America. They use the old book of common prayer and the King James Bible. Very traditional and lovely services and congregation. Perhaps there is such a church near you.

  • ghostsniper February 17, 2024, 2:14 PM

    It seems quite the paradox that as the media tells it, the founding principles leading to the greatest nation are themselves, the very perceived problems with the greatest nation.

    The Feminization of America

  • Casey Klahn February 17, 2024, 3:01 PM

    It falls upon me to remind the gentle readers here that The Bible, in its original autographs, was never written in Latin. Hebrew, Greek, Aramaic…yes. Classic Latin comes along about when the Holy Scriptures are being finished, in the 1st Century AD.

    Look into the Vulgate (Latin Bible) all you want; the critical transmission of the Bible down through the ages has been to get the language that you read to be as close as possible to the original languages, and if you absolutely, positively gotta know what The Bible says, you’ll need a degree in Koine Greek and Hebrew, partner. Otherwise, you’re looking at the multitude of translations in English, and every other language on the face of the Earth, as far as the church has been able to provide. The good people at Wycliffe go into the darker regions of far flung places like New Guinea and Borneo and Brazil, and spend decades writing down the native tongues, in order to provide Scriptures for these blessed people.

    I mean, I’m making an effort to learn Italian, and if I need some Latin now and then I can ask my wife, the ARNP. I read my Bible in English.

    Revivals have happened throughout Christian history, and they are nothing short of the miraculous work of the Holy Spirit. It is possible to have one, but TBH I’m not sure any amount of Christian Tide will float the body politic to where we want it to be. God is no politician. It’d be great to have some judges and teachers with right thinking minds, though.

  • ghostsniper February 18, 2024, 7:17 AM

    “Presidents Day”
    This’s kinda funny.

    Sitting on the couch putting my boots on this morning I turned the TV on and it was on the Grit TV station. They were playing a commercial showing short clips of cowboy movies with Ronnie Raygun in them that they will be playing all day on Presidents Day.

    One of the brief clips showed Ronnie slamming his fist into a cowpokes dumpy mug and the cowpoke goes flying back over the horse trough. I chuckled to myself.

    As I finished putting my boots on I thought about that. We’ve all heard-read the stories of the presidents of oldt that were in violent encounters, ass beatings, horse whippings, duels, etc., but none of us has ever actually seen any of that stuff.

    Further, since probably Teddy Roosevelt, presidents have taken on the pussification factor to the point now that someone like biden would cower like a little gurl if threatened directly with physical debasement.

    So, Ronald Reagan is the only president in US history that has provided physical, video proof of him punching someone’s ass in the *face*. In consideration of that, was Ron the last real man to occupy the oval office and all the others since have been mere shadows of one?

    ** Yeah, I know it was FAF but if George Washington could be resurrected today and saw that video clip I seen would he believe that face punch was real?

  • ghostsniper February 18, 2024, 1:03 PM

    Casey, 30 years is nothing to snivel about.
    That’s 3 decades of sustained effort toward a common goal in both of you.
    Ya’ll did good, Pilgrims, continue to do so.

    • Casey Klahn February 18, 2024, 3:56 PM


  • Casey Klahn February 18, 2024, 3:58 PM

    Anne: belated happy birthday! Eighty!!

    Politics: I’m struck by a headline that says our nation grew in population at a record rate. Isn’t the Left trying to reduce population?? Or, if so, which populations?

    • ghostsniper February 18, 2024, 5:44 PM

      I think your both right. (if that makes sense)
      The white population is reducing, and the “other” people are increasing.
      The amcoms are shipping new ones in faster than the old ones are shipping out.
      I heard somewhere recently about 2.7 mil people die per year in the US – around 7,000 a day.
      How many are being imported per day/year?

  • next February 18, 2024, 4:14 PM

    A unique perspective on Tucker’s interview (backed up with all the necessary sources). In case you are interested in more details, scroll down and review the next comments of the same person.

    • ghostsniper February 18, 2024, 5:55 PM

      This is as far as I got before I bailed:

      “Russia’s per capita yearly GDP is around $13,000. In the United States, it is around $83,000. It’s around $46,000 in Mississippi, our poorest state. Most Russians are living in what most Americans would consider poverty.”

      Do you see the problem in that assertion?
      I see this cheap shit all the time.
      Here’s another variation, “Nike is making trillions off the backs of indigent people earning a few penny’s per day while manufacturing shoes that Nike will sell for $300 a pair.”

      Did you catch it that time?
      Apples to oranges, and only nitwits fall for that silly stuff.
      I have issues with Carlson but “in your face lying” isn’t one of them, yet.
      I just don’t give him much traction to begin with. I find his voice annoying.

      • next February 20, 2024, 6:07 AM

        Who said that, Tucker, or Putin? Is it from the interview? Because I do not deal with these trifles in any way, nor do I agitate anyone to watch the interview. I have clearly quoted the part of the interview which is its meaning and which I am dealing with.

        Other than that, I love fruit, especially bananas.

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