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  • ghostsniper January 17, 2024, 8:11 AM

    That is one purty animal right there.
    It’s wise af.

    • Terry January 17, 2024, 11:14 PM


      Go here: https://twitter.com/i/status/1747755685704843700 5 min Tucker piece

      As I said in comment below, the USA is no longer. Three years ago here in Idaho, the dot gov dumped off a bunch of invaders in our town, we the people ran the bastards away with force. They have not returned.

      Get off the TV couch and get serious or you will be de*d or packed into a camp. This is no conspiracy theory. Watch the Tucker piece in the link above.

  • ghostsniper January 17, 2024, 12:05 PM

    Immigration issues in particular are a problem many U.S. lawmakers have little incentive to actually solve because it robs them of a rallying cry on the campaign trail.



    With the aid of stolen money the US politicians have buffered themselves from the dangers carried on the backs of the illegal aliens. And, they use the illegal alien issue as a tool to facilitate the shepherding of the voters to the booths.

    “My fellow americans, if you are as concerned about the illegal aliens that have swarmed our shores as I am, I will tell you here and now that if I am elected as your (ladder rung of choice) I will “fight” for the rights of ALL americans as my oath requires.”

    yeah right….

  • John A. Fleming January 17, 2024, 12:11 PM

    Oh, I just realized. I was recently doing my outside chores, and a big commotion erupted above me. A murder of crows was harassing a big solitary owl sitting on a high branch in the Brazilian pepper tree. Are horned owls a threat to crow chicks? The crows were effective at harassing the owl, cawcaw’ing and dive bombing and strafing, enveloping the owl in a whirl of black beaks and slashing wings and talons and noise, the owl tried to retreat into the thickest cluster of foliage, but eventually gave up and flew away.

    Do you see it? It’s the eyes. Owls are forward looking, they don’t have wide peripheral vision like most other birds. So the crows flanked it and dive bombed it and the owl couldn’t see until too late.

    Nature red in tooth and claw. Crows aren’t pretty, but they stick together and work together. I’ve read that the corvids, crows and ravens are smart birds. I’ve seen other examples of this behavior. Dolphins aren’t scared of sharks, even the big ones, the pod attacks and harasses the sharks and chase them away.

    • Terry January 17, 2024, 6:38 PM

      Crows and magpie’s are smarter than typical dot gov HS graduates. Speaking of animals, farm goats are smarter than post graduate degree university Mongols.

      How could I type such comments you ask? I pay attention to the people in the crowd. I could go into great detail on my observations but I think most here already agree.

    • John A. Fleming January 17, 2024, 11:40 PM

      Ooh, I just realized another thing about crows. Owls have fantastic hearing, but it’s mostly forward-directed. I’ve read that the shape of their eye sockets funnel sound to the ears. When that owl was in the mad swirl of continuously screaming crows, he probably couldn’t hear the crow at his six coming in for a strafing run. That’s darn smart of those crows.

      Owls are unique and noble birds. Deathly quiet on the wing, if you’re a rat in the field at night you’ll never hear them coming. With forward directed vision and hearing, they have evolved to be able to turn their heads 180 degrees in either direction. Why do owls hoot? I hear them calling and responding to each other, late at night when all is still. Is the hoot to flush the rats and mice? We are blessed to have them around our area, they keep the rodent population in check. We have lots of animals: skunks, possums, raccoons, owls, crows, coyotes, peafowl, and of course tree-rats. I’m not exactly sure where they are all getting their food, but there seems to be enough for everybody. Hmm, I haven’t heard the peafowl lately, the coyotes might have been too successful. Once the coyotes are done with the peafowl, they go looking for Foofoo and Fifi. We have to keep our domestic pets close at night.

      • ghostsniper January 18, 2024, 3:48 AM

        Approximately, where are you at John?
        Regarding FooFoo, I’ve seen mine take on an opossum on two different occasions and it weren’t pretty. I believe a coyote would be dealt with similarly. My Shannon seems to have no fear of such things no matter the size or number. Her private yard is fenced, lit, and well maintained and when I let her out at night to conduct business I scan the entire yard with a flashlight before I open the gate and let her in that yard. That yard is where she has encountered the ‘possums, so she’s ever hopeful for a recurrence.

        It’s true that opossums “play dead”. When Shannon was let loose in her yard I didn’t know the opossum was in there, didn’t even look. But Shannon knew and bolted to it directly. In mere seconds she went from my office door to some 50’ away and got right on that critters ass, no hesitation at all. That’s when the show started. She grabbed it on it’s back and shook it back n forth, side to side, very violently while growling loudly. In about 3 seconds or less it was over. I yelled at her to stop, then come, and she dropped it and came to me. Opossum just laid there. I went to it and looked at it and I saw no wounds, no blood, but it just laid there. I thought, at the time, that I was gonna have to scoop it up with the shovel and bury it in the woods. 15 mins later I went to look at it and it was gone. If I hadn’t gotten her away from it no doubt she would have continued and killed it. She’s done that twice. I hear the coyotes all the time but have only seen them on our property twice in the 17 years we’ve lived here. They are quite elusive.

        • John A. Fleming January 18, 2024, 11:46 AM

          I’ve lived my entire life in view of mountains. Go to them as much as I can. I’m reluctant to be more specific. John Muir says it for me: “Climb the mountains and get their good tidings. Nature’s peace will flow into you as sunshine flows into trees. The winds will blow their own freshness into you, and the storms their energy, while cares will drop away from you like the leaves of Autumn.”

    • Casey Klahn January 18, 2024, 2:35 PM

      Once I saw, through my caffeine-deficient morning eyes, a Horned Owl perched close-in and level with my North Porch, with a large bunch of feathers in his mouth and the whole yard was atwitter with crying birds. The old timer farmers swear up and down that owl will even take a small cat, but anyway I wanted to search my mind for actual examples of this predator predating. Yes. Yes he will take crow chicks.

      BTW I had to look up the size of the GHO, and the text said somewhere like 36″ tall, but I’ll swear this baddy was bigger. He seemed nearer 4 feet tall than 3, but I could’ve been imagining that. I’m a pretty good judge of animal dimensions but at any rate he was BIG.

      • Terry January 18, 2024, 5:50 PM

        We have burrowing owls at our place. One year these owls wiped out my wife’s entire collection of barn cats. This was about 25-30 years back. It took a while before we concluded the burrowing owls were cleaning out the cat population. The owls made burrows in irrigation ditch banks.

        • Casey Klahn January 18, 2024, 9:38 PM

          That’s useful date for me, and thanks. Hard-earned by you and your family, but it does back-up what the pioneers told me. In general, I classify all predators as bad for your domestic animals.

          BTW, I’ll repeat that in my surroundings, we have every kind of predatory bird known to man. This is a riparian apex habitat. It’s really amazing.

          What I find fascinating about owls is their deep curiosity about what you are doing. They fly up and check you out.

          • Terry January 20, 2024, 11:57 AM

            Casey, one needs to actually live within the boundaries of predators to really experience their life style. Sounds like you are in such an area.

            Twenty plus years ago I was riding my ATV back into our field fenced compound slowly, when a low flying red tailed hawk flew over. Then this hawk made a tight circle, dropped straight down about fifty or so feet, and there was a loud racket of disturbance in a rocky brushy area. Then up comes the hawk with what appeared to be a stick in the grasp of his/her feet.

            The bird made a tight climbing circle and flew straight back over me and I saw the rattles on the tail of a snake. The hawk, made a straight line flight about 500 feet up a slope and dropped the snake on top of a huge rock. It then flew almost straight down and out of my view, apparently finishing off the snake.

            We were relieved the hawk took the snake out away from our dogs on the opposite side of the field fenced area.

  • SK January 17, 2024, 12:56 PM

    I have a pair of hooded crows that slide down the copper flashing in the angles on my roof, just for fun. Then they fly to the top and slide down again. One follows the other. They are like the real life Heckle and Jeckle. Amazing noisy clever funny birds.

    A murder of crows, a murmuration of starlings, a soar of falcons, a trembling of finches… Birds certainly inspire our imagination.

    • ghostsniper January 17, 2024, 1:13 PM

      “copper flashing”
      Ooooo look at you! Fancy!
      Us peasants must suffer bland gray aluminum.

      What you are talking about, in roof system parlance, is a “valley set”, where 2 opposing roof sections intersect.

      One of the sections must be dominant, meaning the other section is subordinate and must use a valley set to join properly.

      This causes a juxtaposition between the roof surfaces which is solved by said flashing creating a usually waterproof union.

      The flashing, in accordance with building code, must extend a minimum of 12″ past the termination of underlayment and roofing material.

      • SK January 17, 2024, 1:55 PM

        It’s a very old house but was built with good materials many of which are still original including the flashing in the “valley set”. The gutters and down spouts are also copper. Probably impossible today. Thanks for the lesson in architectural terminology- never did know what to call them. As for the code requirements, I doubt they existed when the roof was last redone- but it doesn’t leak so they must have got it right.

  • ghostsniper January 17, 2024, 1:23 PM

    From 6 1/2 years ago.
    A Murder of Crows by GhostSniper
    by VANDERLEUN on JULY 28, 2017

    This year the crows are back, after having been gone for the past 2 years. I’m talking about the BIG ones. Maybe 16-18″ tall, walk around with their arms behind their backs (not unlike Groucho Marx) like they are assessing everything. And talkin’ that shit. Loudly. VERY loudly. Easily the loudest birds in the forest, drowning out even the pileateds.

    They are alert, watching each other’s backs, and they will see you before you see them. They keep their distance from you, at least 50 feet or more. Get closer than that and they take flight. Fraidy cats.

    Crows is curious creatures, maybe an indication of higher intelligence. Oops. Did I just infer they could be human? OMG, you know what that means!

    All black. Body. Beak. Legs. Eyes. Black to the core. And picky assed eaters. The other birds anxiously eat from the smorgasbord that is delivered daily but the crows are better’n that, so they think. I’ve seen a crow pick up a sunflower seed and throw it back down in disgust then run it’s yap for a bit then come back and pick it up again and head off to a high limb somewhere to enjoy that tasty snack.

    6am to 8am is their “staying connected” time around here. Fortunately we are early risers so we are not unduly bothered by their group tirades. I find them humorous and enjoy watching them from afar. If I stay perfectly still on the porch they get closer for better viewing and they are magnificent creatures.

    They have a purpose. The crows do the jobs others don’t want to do. If a squirrel gets splattered on the road the crows are right there disposing of it. Nice. Then I don’t have to shovel scoop it up and dig a hole. They peck at it til it’s skin and bones, then the rest just magically disappears. Do they carry it into the woods? I’ve never seen a squirrel carcass in the woods. Do the crows eat the fur and bones? Don’t know.

    As I said, the crows are the BIG variety. If they had a mind to, I imagine a group of 10 or more could most certainly take out a grown person. The beaks and claws look quite diabolical. At a full speed low angle dive I believe a 2″ black chisel beak would leave a deep permanent scar and maybe a trip to the ER. 10 of them punctures in rapid succession and you may succumb.

    Then in a bit they will have picked you clean. And maybe we’ll find out what happens to the carcasses…..

    Posted by ghostsniper at June 19, 2017 4:21 AM

    See the original at the link with a crow vid embedded by Gerard.


  • ghostsniper January 17, 2024, 2:53 PM

    Wouldn’t you like to take their pathetic pencil necks between your fingers and just squeeze, and watch their eyeballs come to the front of the sockets as the blood pools in their decaying synapses, then after every vein protrudes above the surface give one enormous squonk down and feel that esophagus cartilage collapse with a satisfying crunch and that shitty light goes out in their pupils. Then grab another one of these assholes and do it all over again.


    MSNBC, CNN Refuse to Air Donald Trump’s Victory Speech in Iowa but Air Haley and DeSantis Speeches

    MSNBC and CNN refused to air former President Donald Trump’s Republican Iowa caucus victory speech Monday evening, while airing fellow candidates’ speeches.

    MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow announced on-air that Trump had just began giving his speech but that the network decided not to air it because it did not want to knowingly broadcast “untrue things.”

    She said:

    At this point in the evening, the projected winner of the Iowa caucuses has just started giving his victory speech. We will keep an eye on that as it happens. We will let you know if there’s any news made in that speech if there’s anything noteworthy, something substantive and important. The reason I’m saying this is, of course, there is a reason that we and other news organizations have generally stopped giving an unfiltered Live platform to remarks by former President Trump and is not out of spite it is not a decision that we relish it is a decision that we regularly revisit and honestly earnestly it is not an easy decision. But there is a cost to us as a news organization, knowingly broadcasting untrue things as a fundamental truth of our business and who we are and so his remarks tonight will not air here live we will monitor them and let you know about any news that he makes.

    CNN was not much better, airing only a short portion of Trump’s speech, until he began talking about the border.

    According to Media Research Center’s Newsbusters.org website, CNN show host Jake Tapper cut away from Trump’s speech after he said, “We are going to seal at the border. Because, right now, we have an invasion. We have an invasion of millions and millions of people that are coming into our country. I can’t imagine why they think that’s a good thing.”

    Tapper interrupted, saying:

    Donald Trump declaring victory with a historically strong showing in the Iowa caucuses. If these numbers hold, the biggest victory for a non-incumbent president in the modern era for this contest. A relatively subdued speech as the things go so far. Although, here he is, right now, under my voice. You can hear him repeating his anti-immigrant rhetoric.

    Author Michael Shellenberger mocked the networks for trying to “protect their fragile viewers” from Trump, calling it “elite panic.” He posted on X:

    Trump won every county in Iowa thus CNN and MSNBC must protect their fragile viewers from his utterances. We are witnessing an elite panic. It’s as primitive and superstitious as the one that declared some women to be witches capable of casting spells.


  • Anne January 17, 2024, 3:14 PM

    Like I have been trying to say–the communist party is well ahead of the people in their plans and what next, or what if strategies. They have had these days all laid out many years ago!

    Hard to say isn’t it “communist party of America”? But here it is–in control of every aspect of our lives. The only thing they haven’t quite gotten organized yet is the system for taking away our land. They are working on that as we speak! Say it out loud to yourselves–the Communist Party of America has taken charge of this coming election outcome already!

    • DT January 17, 2024, 4:06 PM

      Americans are so busy worrying about Russian “communists” (not since the USSR) while ignoring that -they- now live in a communist country. And seem to like it that way. Russia will be the future bastion of freedom; America will become a client state of CCP (like technology, the Chinese didn’t steal it; we sold it to them. I wonder how much Biden actually cost them – but I’m sure they’re receiving good value for their purchase)

    • Terry January 17, 2024, 7:04 PM

      Yes Anne, we are in dire straights since the communists have total control of everything that matters in what was the USA. This includes the minds of most people who say they are on our side. If one watches TV, their mind is under control by the deep state. C * A operatives and their techniques are beyond amazing in effectiveness.

      Our side is lazy, ignorant of the world, ignorant of what has transpired in the former USA and in near total complacency. All of the members of the commie side show up at the polls. Many on our side sit home and let their neighbor vote for them.

      Let them eat cake. The cake to be the bark of trees this time?

  • neo January 17, 2024, 4:08 PM

    About Maddow. Watch the video; it’s pretty funny.

    • ghostsniper January 17, 2024, 5:30 PM

      Thanks Neo.
      I’d never seen video of either of those people before but have seen pix of both.
      Both kinda got on my nerve immediately but for diff reasons.
      He does however have a good command of vocabulary, but it’s his rapid fire delivery I take exception with.

      Her. Maddow. What a piece of work she is. I bet, down under that desk, out of view, she wears patent leather hob nailed jack boots, size 11 AAA. With her horseshoe nail shaped head she can look right into the camera (and in her mind, right into your soul) and lie like she’s used to it. Yes, used to it. With only seeing this brief clip I can easily bet thousands of dollars, and win!, that she is an habitual liar. Yes, crushing that trachea would come easily. I hunger for retribution.

  • Anne January 17, 2024, 11:03 PM

    If someone here has the time and the necessary access (maybe only Google), would you please look up the minutes from the Congressional Record sometime between 1937-1939? Look for the committee that investigated (researched) what it would take for a communist takeover in America. They understood way back then that it was rhetoric, media, and school-age indoctrination. If you combine that understanding with the government in the state of WA (no clean elections for years) then you can see clearly that the current level of Trump abuse is just one more trick to pull out of a reserve of strategies that will outlast the rebellion. Maddow is just one in a waiting, obedient, and well trained cast of thousands.

    • ghostsniper January 18, 2024, 3:51 AM

      I have no doubt attempt(s) will be made on Trumps life this year and mostly from inside the wire. I wonder if such a move would cause the Patriots to assemble?

      • John A. Fleming January 18, 2024, 5:47 PM

        Some things ought not to be imagined. Letting it come at the normal pace will be bad enough, crazy stuff happens when people go crazy due to a cataclysm.

        The DOJ and all its sub-organizations are our modern-day praetorians. They believe themselves to the be the guardians of the nation, and think themselves too powerful now to be questioned. They have already had their Caligula-Claudius moment and installed the Fraudulent. Hopefully we will find our Constantine quickly and disband them with prejudice. Such people cannot ever be trusted.

  • ghostsniper January 18, 2024, 8:07 AM

    America’s collapse has been in the progress for some time now, and has been predicted by a number of observers—but in actuality the utter, historically unprecedented degeneration of America’s so-called elites, which have exhibited a level of malfeasance, incompetence, cowardice and betrayal of their own people on such a scale that it beggars belief.
    For the United States to survive as a unified country, a completely new narrative, grounded in reality, is required and the current American policy elites, be they purportedly left radicals and those forces which support them or the nominally conservative, no less grossly indoctrinated forces on the right, are utterly incapable of formulating the real American national interests, or of creating a new narrative, because the United States is in the process of the fragmentation of what used to be an American proto-nation, but ultimately never fully turned into the real thing. Political creeds, or abstract, often utterly wrong ideas are simply not enough to inspire and, most importantly, to sustain the growth of a nation. The modern American elites and their European followers have proved that beyond a shadow of a doubt.
    Today neither France nor the United States are nations in a full meaning of this word, with France descending into the chaos of globalist multicultural orthodoxy, while the United States is completely subverted by ethno-religious and corporate interests.
    Today, the United States is not a nation, certainly not in the traditional sense of having a dominant ethnic nationality, while the foundational American meme and myth of a “Melting Pot” has turned out to be exactly that—a myth. America’s many ethnicities have not been assimilated to form a single nation, but rather are more aptly regarded as a salad bowl comprised of descendants of the majority “white” European settlers and the “colored” (Native American, African American, and Latin and Asian immigrant) minorities, all maintaining to varying degrees their original cultural identities. But even the salad bowl analogy is too weak to reflect the multicultural disaster the United States has become.

  • ghostsniper January 18, 2024, 8:08 AM

    Klaus Schwab and Sergey Brin of Google discuss the possibility of replacing voting with AI at the World Economic Forum:

    World Economic Forum (WEF) founder and chairman Klaus Schwab has called for members of the general public to be excluded from election processes, arguing that voters could be replaced by artificial intelligence (AI). Schwab made the chilling calls during a WEF interview with Google co-founder Sergey Brin. During the discussion Schwab and Brin were discussing “digital technologies,” such as AI, and how they could be used to advance the WEF’s agenda.

    “So technology now, and digital technology, mainly have an analytical power,” Schwab said as Brin nodded along obediently. “Now, we go into predictive power and we have seen the first examples. Your company is very much involved in it,” Schwab said of Google.

    Schwab then continued by laying out his globalist vision for “the next step” for digital technology.

    “But then the next step could be to go into prescriptive mode, which means you do not even have to have elections anymore because you can already predict. And afterward, you can say, why do we need elections? Because we know what the result will be.”

    If the US military was actually concerned with “defending democracy”, which has been its excuse for dozens of military actions around the world since WWI, one would quite reasonably expect them to label the unelected Schwab “the new Hitler” and declare war on Davos. Because it has become abundantly clear that the whatever the globalist clowns actually mean by “our democracy”, it doesn’t have anything to do with the will of a nation’s people, no matter how it is expressed.

    Instead, it’s gearing up for war with the duly-elected, and very popular, President of Russia.

    Clown World isn’t just evil, it is inverted. False and inverted. Never forget that.

  • ghostsniper January 18, 2024, 11:26 AM

    What do you think would happen if the CEO of a major corporation publicly announced that from this day forth they would only be hiring non-women and non-people of color?

    What do you think would happen if the CEO of a major corporation publicly announced that from this day forth they would only be hiring women and people of color?

    Do you now see why this thing MUST fail?

    • John A. Fleming January 18, 2024, 11:38 AM

      a) CEO is instantly shown the door, Company takes massive public relations hit. Politicians stroke out. Punditry strokes out. The Marxists organize giant protests with the usual paid protestors.
      b) Everybody says , hmm that doesn’t sound legal. Anyway … And nothing will happen for 18 months until the lawsuits wend their way through all the hostile Courts.

  • Casey Klahn January 18, 2024, 2:51 PM

    I see we’re talking politics in this post. I feel it’s an important year because our overlords are battling for more lordship. They won’t let Trump speak. JeeBeez, that’s stupid.

    Recently Nikki Haley (the dems choice for GOPe POTUS candidate) flubbed up an answer about the Civil War (1861-65), which was rich given that she’s from fekn South Carolina! I’m watching Eagle Pass, TX very closely right now. Is it the next Fort Sumter?

    I am mad as hell at the White House for trying to pin some recent illegal drownings on the Texas NG. That’s blood libel. Biden’s gang will say any evil lie to hurt or destroy you and build their own empty case for whatever policy insanity they support. As it stands this morning, the guard control that crossing point and they’re in open conflict with the feds at the border.

    One of the great YouTubers, Ryan McBeth, pointed out the other day that there is a room, deep in the bowels of the pentagon, where every swingingdick from POTUS and down through his whole cabinet including assistant secretaries, and every 4 star officer in the military, are electronically accounted for at all times and without fail. There is a mirror office in the White House that has the same data sent from the pentagon. Austin was not AWOL – the chances of that accountability loss are unlikely. Someone in the WH slipped a knife in Austin’s ribs, metaphorically speaking. They either want to shit on another part of their own White House staff, and/or they want to damage GEN Austin (whose a total loser).

    Lying sax of shiite. Excremental presidential refuse. I’m sick of their BS.

    • DT January 18, 2024, 4:13 PM

      Look at the picture of Mussolini’s end. Now picture Joe & Jill & Barry & Mike (and your choice for #5) in that same position.

      • ghostsniper January 18, 2024, 5:53 PM

        #5 = Blinken
        Long gobs of gutz.
        I wanna see entrails, draped across that top rail.
        Hey, that rhymes, kinda.

      • Casey Klahn January 18, 2024, 9:45 PM

        I don’t need to look at Benito and Clara. It’s etched in my mind. My dad was a few miles from that when it happened. His unit ( another company) almost captured Mussolini; when they ran their DUKWs up on the shore of his HQ/villa, they found the eggs still warm to the touch.

        I have a bit of extra “shit” on this event that most historians don’t cover. PM me if you care to know it.

    • ghostsniper January 18, 2024, 5:54 PM

      Austin was killed by pooty in the Uke weeks ago.

  • ghostsniper January 18, 2024, 2:53 PM

    Foreign Aid = Money Laundering

  • ghostsniper January 19, 2024, 4:15 AM

    Trump’s perfect night.

    He couldn’t have scripted it any better: Trump won 98 of 99 counties in Iowa, dominating virtually every demographic while physically campaigning in the state far less than any of his top rivals.

    Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis edged out former UN ambassador Nikki Haley for a distant second place — giving both an incentive to stay in the race and further divide voters searching for a Trump alternative.

    Vivek Ramaswamy, who had sought to brand himself as the MAGA movement’s heir apparent, suspended his campaign after a disappointing fourth-place finish and quickly endorsed Trump.

    Trump was in rare form early in his victory speech, urging the party to “come together” behind him and complimenting DeSantis, Haley and Ramaswamy without the usual insults — a subtle power move that seemed to signal his team will ramp up the pressure on his remaining rivals to drop out.

    • Casey Klahn January 19, 2024, 6:55 AM

      I heard it that the 99th county was decided by one vote (was it flipped?) and late, late in the game. MAGAs were crowing about 99/99 counties – a clean sweep. Somebody had to be the fly in the ointment.

      Oh well. I wouldn’t want perfection in a thing, anyway. It’s like that Navaho blanket story.

      This victory, and it is an epic and historic vote result, is portending a future landslide for Trump. The dems, media, and the stick-up-their-ass GOPe, are pretending the voters will roll for Biden. Portend/Pretend. A giant hand is appearing from a cloud, and the handwriting is on the wall.

      • DT January 19, 2024, 4:13 PM

        They won’t let Trump live if they feel they can’t pull off another 2020. And maybe not even if he “loses”.

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