Meaning: they support military aid for Ukraine but also a diplomatic track to end the conflict before it can escalate into Biden’s “Armageddon.”
This is where the majority of the country is. And after the Progressive Caucus retracted its own tepid suggestion for a dual track, the territory is wide open for Republicans to own.
The administration’s position is now:
1. There will be no diplomatic track.
2. Military aid will be virtually unlimited and go on forever.
3. Only Zelensky can decide when and how the war ends.
4. Even though (according to Biden) the war could escalate into Armageddon.
This is despite the fact that most Americans support the US pursuing diplomatic negotiations to end the war, even if it means Ukraine has to make some compromises with Russia.
The 30 “moderates” of the CPUSA had to retract their recommendation for a Brandon summit with Pooty Poot and will be re-educated in a vigorous struggle session. (sarc)
That is so cute and precious when people still put faith in the Grand Old Politburo or a ballot box.
The horse has left the barn and it is on fire, time to move on from comforting fairy tales.
ghostsniperOctober 25, 2022, 2:59 PM
I think a lot of people are wanting to move on but are waiting for direction.
The direction to the cattle cars?
CallmelennieOctober 25, 2022, 3:11 PM
If 57% of Americans support negotiations over more combat, what is the percentage of Europeans who support diplomacy? What will it be in mid January when its 30 degrees colder than it is now? And what percentage of Americans would support more war if they understood that the areas Russia “invaded” are overwhelmingly inhabited by Russian speakers
This idiocy by our Child Sniffer in Chief is going to break NATO and bring on Worst economic situation since the Great Depression
And for what? We cant beat the Russians in their own backyard. They were beating the Ukrainians with 10% of their Armed Forces. And they have a game changer of an air defense system that cant be defeated. Their ADA missiles are several orders of magnitude superior to any weapon system we have
This is a madness that tops any lunacy seen in WWI and most of WWII. Hitler seemed mad for invading Russia, but he damned near pulled it off! By late October, after an astonishing series of victories by the Germans, it was the consensus world wide that the USSR was finished.
Russians were only saved by a weather phenomenon that turns roads and fields into surfaces so muddy you cant even walk in it. Germans simply did not understand the severity of the problem, that it would stop EVERYTHING. Had they really understood and accounted for it in their planning, they would have won
It seems to me that one can only negotiate from a leg-up position.
This would be your dual track.
BTW, that fukn Biden is crazy as shit; no telling what he’ll do.
The question, now (all BS aside) is what will Russia do for the Winter? They don’t defend their gains from the Dnieper River’s edge, nukes are not plausible to use, and NATO has a hard on to defend itself.
Do you want to avoid WWIII? Then by all means place a boot on Putin’s яички. Don’t go the PM Chamberlain route.
SoylentGreenOctober 26, 2022, 7:35 AM
The only dog we have in this fight is our dear leaders – on both sides of the isle – don’t want Putin to uncover what we’ve done in Ukraine. We should pull out completely and let Putin destroy NATO military in Ukraine. He’ll stop when he’s punished the Western Aggression AKA “what we’ve done in Ukraine”. We anons should realize that Putin is on the same side we are on… take down the Deep State.
james wilsonOctober 26, 2022, 12:27 PM
This is Lev Brontein’s old war on Russia just as his friends are mopping up in their war with the West.
Real World Address for Donations, Mash Notes and Hate Mail
Gerard Van der Leun
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Who Am I? by Carl Sandburg
My head knocks against the stars.
My feet are on the hilltops.
My finger-tips are in the valleys and shores of universal life.
Down in the sounding foam of primal things I reach my hands and play with pebbles of destiny.
I have been to hell and back many times.
I know all about heaven, for I have talked with God.
I dabble in the blood and guts of the terrible.
I know the passionate seizure of beauty
And the marvelous rebellion of man at all signs reading “Keep Off.”
My name is Truth and I am the most elusive captive in the universe.
Duty, Beauty, Liberty, Country, Honor, Family, Faith — Plus a few simple easy to follow rules for guys
Men saw the stars at the edge of the sea
They thought great thoughts about liberty
Poets wrote down words that did fit
Writers wrote books
Thinkers thought about it
Take it where you find it
Can’t leave it alone
You will find a purpose
To carry it on
Mainly when you find it
Your heart will be strong
About it
Many’s the road I have walked upon
Many’s the hour between dusk and dawn
Many’s the time
Many’s the mile
I see it all now
Through the eyes of a child
Take it where you find it
Can’t leave it alone
You will find a purpose
To carry it on
Mainly when you find it
Your heart will be strong
About it
[Chorus]
Lost dreams and found dreams
In America
In America
In America
Lost dreams and found dreams
In America
In America
In America
And close your eyes
Leave it all for a while
Leave the world
And your worries behind
You will build on whatever is real
And wake up each day
To a new waking dream
Take it where you find it
Can’t leave it alone
You will find a purpose
To carry it on
Mainly when you find it
Your heart will be strong
About it
[Chorus]
Change, change come over
Change come over
Talkin’ about a change
Change, change
Change come over, now
Change, change, change come over
I’m gonna walk down the street
Until I see
My shining light
I’m gonna walk down the street
Until I see
My shining light
I’m gonna walk down the street
Until I see
My shining light
I’m gonna walk down the street
Until I see
My shining light
I see my light
See my light
See my shining light
I see my light
See my light
See my shining light
Gerard Van der Leun
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The 30 “moderates” of the CPUSA had to retract their recommendation for a Brandon summit with Pooty Poot and will be re-educated in a vigorous struggle session. (sarc)
That is so cute and precious when people still put faith in the Grand Old Politburo or a ballot box.
The horse has left the barn and it is on fire, time to move on from comforting fairy tales.
I think a lot of people are wanting to move on but are waiting for direction.
The direction to the cattle cars?
If 57% of Americans support negotiations over more combat, what is the percentage of Europeans who support diplomacy? What will it be in mid January when its 30 degrees colder than it is now? And what percentage of Americans would support more war if they understood that the areas Russia “invaded” are overwhelmingly inhabited by Russian speakers
This idiocy by our Child Sniffer in Chief is going to break NATO and bring on Worst economic situation since the Great Depression
And for what? We cant beat the Russians in their own backyard. They were beating the Ukrainians with 10% of their Armed Forces. And they have a game changer of an air defense system that cant be defeated. Their ADA missiles are several orders of magnitude superior to any weapon system we have
This is a madness that tops any lunacy seen in WWI and most of WWII. Hitler seemed mad for invading Russia, but he damned near pulled it off! By late October, after an astonishing series of victories by the Germans, it was the consensus world wide that the USSR was finished.
Russians were only saved by a weather phenomenon that turns roads and fields into surfaces so muddy you cant even walk in it. Germans simply did not understand the severity of the problem, that it would stop EVERYTHING. Had they really understood and accounted for it in their planning, they would have won
Lennie, isn’t that the stated goal?
It seems to me that one can only negotiate from a leg-up position.
This would be your dual track.
BTW, that fukn Biden is crazy as shit; no telling what he’ll do.
The question, now (all BS aside) is what will Russia do for the Winter? They don’t defend their gains from the Dnieper River’s edge, nukes are not plausible to use, and NATO has a hard on to defend itself.
Do you want to avoid WWIII? Then by all means place a boot on Putin’s яички. Don’t go the PM Chamberlain route.
The only dog we have in this fight is our dear leaders – on both sides of the isle – don’t want Putin to uncover what we’ve done in Ukraine. We should pull out completely and let Putin destroy NATO military in Ukraine. He’ll stop when he’s punished the Western Aggression AKA “what we’ve done in Ukraine”. We anons should realize that Putin is on the same side we are on… take down the Deep State.
This is Lev Brontein’s old war on Russia just as his friends are mopping up in their war with the West.