WHEN in the course of human Events, it becomes necessary….
Noted in Passing: Flamethrowers in the Wild
byVanderleunonMay 11, 2021
Because I am blessed with commentators even more twisted than I am we’ve lately been having a discussion about making flamethrowers at home for fun and profit. Yes, flamethrowers. Now far be it from me to support homemade flamethrowers for the “neighborhood watch” but I was asking myself how hard it would be to whip one of those bad boys out (for educational purposes only). Then yesterday Matt’s Off-Road Recovery revealed their finished custom Corvair dune wagon and well…
Normally I’m not one to complain about equal representation and such, but still in these modern times, you know. I guess what I am trying to say is we need more shots of Lizzy with the flamethrower.
TerryMay 11, 2021, 7:46 AM
Now that is some serious Red Neck fun. I am surprised the big tech creeps have not banned this treasure.
Polar opposite of the central african Woke thought process. Lead, don’t follow.
The Tomboy is similar to what I had as a neighbor way back in the hillbilly country of the mountain county California area.
Fun video Gerard, thank you for posting.
gwbnycMay 11, 2021, 7:50 AM
baby steps-
1) can of Right Guard® deodorant
2) Bic lighter
3) keyhole
-see if it’s for you first
JackMay 11, 2021, 9:20 AM
gwbnyc, just be sure to wear asbestos gloves with that trick. Another good keyhole defense is 12″ of stiff wire. The perp will run off screaming. You’ll know him by the pirate look.
An absolute genius truck build! But I wouldn’t trust these guys anywhere near concrete block construction; any fool could predict those four puny bolts were going to pull right out of the wall, probably taking a lot of block with them. Chalk up one for the fool.
EX-Californian PeteMay 11, 2021, 10:06 AM
Wow, I feel truly honored to have an article posted here that recognizes and applauds my “twistedness.” Thanks, Gerard!
Over the last few months I found a few manufactured flamethrowers on the web, and most use propane as a fuel. Nah, I’ll stick to gas & diesel mix. Propane makes a flame that’s partially invisible in daylight, unless you ‘dirty it up’ with an admixture. Anyone who’s used an ‘industrial size’ propane torch- like a roofing torch for applying modified bitumen rolls knows what I mean.
Like one of these- https://www.bigrocksupply.com/sievert-3460-47-turboroofer-20-one-piece-field-torch-assembly-with-stand.aspx
Those broadcast about 3-6 feet, but can be “modified” to reach out about 8-9 feet when you hit the charge lever.
And at 9′, the forward 3′ of the flame is completely invisible. That’s seems a bit dangerous and kind of defeats the purpose of having a ‘big scary flame’ that takes advantage of the primitive, instinctive fear of fire that all mammals share. (even dumbass libtards)
To me, a flamethrower has a twofold use in a riot situation- the first- application as a tool of rather severe warning, and the second as an actual broad-scale weapon that delivers one of the cruelest and most agonizing ways to die. It doesn’t technically rely on ‘accuracy,’ which adds to the terror of those in the general area of it’s reach.
I figure if you walk into an angry, rioting mob, let loose a skyward blast of flame, and then level it at the rioters- then yell “WHO WANTS TO DIE FIRST?” it’ll more likely cause a very fast stampede away from you than your actually having to BBQ their asses with it.
Another big plus- a flamethrower leaves no ballistics, no spent brass, can’t be located by ‘shot spotters,’ and gasoline is a helluva lot cheaper and available than ammo. (even if you’re a reloader) It does tend to give away your location, though.
Now I just need to find a pair of asbestos underwear before I start building it!
If you look back on my blog a year or so ago, I do a ‘how to build a flammenwerfer’ for fun and profit… all the steps, tools and photos of ‘how to’… I also will build one for you for the right price…
Jes’ Sayin’
EX-Californian PeteMay 11, 2021, 11:57 AM
Big Country Expat-
I’ll look for that, and I appreciate all help in the design & manufacture, as this is a new horizon for me.
To all Californians- guess what? It’s “LEGAL” to own a flamethrower in CA.- TECHNICALLY. As long as it doesn’t project a flame over 10.’ Anything further than that requires a (chuckle) “flame thrower permit!”
Remember that law if you ever have more than 10 shots of tequila combined with 16 bean burritos, and are planning to light a fart. You could be charged with felonious flaming fartation. https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=201720180AB1949
I was pleasantly surprised to see that San Diego County is using desalinization plants for most of their water. Why can’t the rest of CA do that? Did they forget about the Pacific Ocean being right there for them?
Jack LeggMay 11, 2021, 12:17 PM
My Dad would have kicked me in the butt if I dragged an axe on the concrete like that….
Casey KlahnMay 11, 2021, 12:19 PM
X-Cal. Oete: using the ocean for water or for energy is too sustainable. Can’t be doin’ that!
Flame Thrower Betty. Good. Really good.
My list includes lots of stuff. Mortars. Cannon. Tanks. I’ll skip the jets and choppers but I’m sure somebody, somewhere, has a plan for those. But the top of my list is mortars. High angle hell.
PA CatMay 11, 2021, 12:47 PM
For all of Gerard’s readers with money to burn: it is evidently possible to obtain a functional WWII M2-2 flamethrower (the type that was used on Iwo Jima and other Pacific islands) for a mere $30,000 to $50,000. Details here: https://flamethrowerforsale.com/product/m2-2-flamethrower/
EX-Californian PeteMay 11, 2021, 3:38 PM
Big Country Expat-
Checked out your blog, and was slightly disappointed that I didn’t find a “search” feature to locate the flammenwerfer posts. So I was “forced” to scroll through all the newer posts until I found it. Glad I did.
Now I have the blog bookmarked so I can later read all the other articles at leisure. And thanks for the ‘leg up’ on the build- your design looks pretty good.
To those here who haven’t checked out the blog yet, DO IT! DOOOO IT! It’s freakin’ great.
PA Cat- Ouch. Those are some pricey relics, and I kinda doubt the (milsurp) ones for sale would be safe for use, considering their age. And $30-$50K? Double ouch…
I did see some newer design models at the bottom of the page for way cheaper, but they all seem to have VERY short duration times. Maybe I’ll figure out a design with “quick change” propellant and fuel tanks for the one I’m building.
Casey- yeah, free water from the world’s largest water supply! Sheesh- maybe its illegal in most of CA.- just like tapping into that gigantic Lower Tuscan Aquifer?
Mortars are pretty easy to build if you don’t mind using black powder & cannon fuse or a 209 primer. But some states like CA. view them as “destructive devices” or worse- a felony. Oh, and even those regular old hair spray-powered “potato cannons” we all built when we were kids are a felony in CA., too!
There’s a few websites that sell “golf ball” and “beer can” mortars online if you search around, but I’d be a bit leery of having one shipped to your actual address.
Pete, Pete, Pete. What d you take me for? I want a complete mortar, with baseplate, bipod, traverse and aiming sight (in the case). And a palette of ammunition.
My son is going off on Israeli war crimes using white phosphorous. I told him that the willie pete mortar rounds that I drew from ordinance all had “for war crimes” written on the side. They are strictly for war crimes.
You want war crimes? Pull my finger!
VanderleunMay 11, 2021, 8:56 PM
When it comes to the whole thread I’m pretty much into it for the moments of Lizzy with the flamethrower.
EX-Californain PeteMay 11, 2021, 9:02 PM
Casey, Casey Casey!
I don’t know WHAT to take you for- you’re a unique kinda guy!
Well, if you end up getting one of those, could you order an extra one for me- pretty please?
Oh, and half a pallet of ammo would be good, too.
Let me know where to send the stack of large denomination unmarked bills.
Casey KlahnMay 11, 2021, 9:23 PM
Somebodies got palettes of ammo somewhere. Give it up! In my mind’s eye, I see the trucks leaving the loading docks, at Federal and Winchester, en-route to WalMart, Cabelas, Bass Pro…and in an undisclosed location in Ohio, or Kansas, or FumBuck, Oklahoma, they pull into a siding, and, in the dark of night, begin unloading palettes and palettes of 22 rimfire, 32 ACP, .308, .270. Black Market, baby.
But wait! In my dream, from the corner of the dark freeway cut, comes Flame-Thrower Lizzy! FW–OOOOmmFFF!
I awake before the ammo starts cooking off.
Ex-California Pete, if I had palettes of ammo, I’d for sure share that with you and present company.
Snakepit KansasMay 12, 2021, 5:05 AM
Casey,
Ammo trucks headed to Kansas???? Ammo restocking at the gun range I work at is still spotty. 9 is still rare, 40 is available as is .223. The cost is stupid high though. I still have an old tin can of NATO 9mm, 1,200 rounds. That is for emergencies and if I have to open that up, things will have gotten BAD.
Tambien, I thought willie pete was also used as a marker round. Nice white plume to see where you hit, then adjust arty from there. But if just HAVE to make something burn, phosphorus will certainly do that.
Some how I don’t think most folks should be playing with this stuff.
Have you ever personally seen a human badly burned yet alive?, bad car crashes, split fuel tanks, human torch’s are not for the weak of heart. The worst are the children. The screaming asking god to make them dead. Or an older man begging me to shoot him, his wife of sixty years smoldering in the melted metal of what was once their Cadillac. I still have nightmares.
Had actually considered purchasing one of Big Country’s units, when I was spending time on wrsa ,actually a pretty sano build he does. End of the day, a bad idea for us.
For me the question is always How would we use this tool. I hate killing, and burning in my mind the absolute worst way to die.
Village Idiot
EX-Californian PeteMay 12, 2021, 9:16 AM
Casey-
I don’t have a FULL pallet of ammo yet, but working on it!
I’ve been casting projectiles in the hundreds about twice a week, reloading various calibers about every other day, and lately have been going to the outdoor range almost every evening before sunset. (free brass by the 100’s in MANY calibers.) My pure lead supply is now about 2/3 of a ton. Linotype and tin- about 55 lbs combined. Primers are well-stocked, and buying more when available. (at $34 per 1000)
In a few minutes I’m heading out to pick up two more 8lb jugs of IMR 3031 @ $185 each, and pick up a couple more 5 gallon gas cans at Rural King for $15 each.
To Dirk- yes, unfortunately, I’ve seen all that. I was one of the fortunate folks who survived the Camp Fire after being trapped in it and forced to drive through those flames for 2-1/2 hours of unimaginable horror.
To answer your question- as a tool to intimidate and dispatch the rioting domestic terrorists who have done over $2 billion in property damage, and have murdered innocent people and ruined countless lives. There’s an old saying- “Fight fire with fire.”
As I’ve said here many times- if you know of a better way to deal with them, I’m all ears.
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Normally I’m not one to complain about equal representation and such, but still in these modern times, you know. I guess what I am trying to say is we need more shots of Lizzy with the flamethrower.
Now that is some serious Red Neck fun. I am surprised the big tech creeps have not banned this treasure.
Polar opposite of the central african Woke thought process. Lead, don’t follow.
The Tomboy is similar to what I had as a neighbor way back in the hillbilly country of the mountain county California area.
Fun video Gerard, thank you for posting.
baby steps-
1) can of Right Guard® deodorant
2) Bic lighter
3) keyhole
-see if it’s for you first
gwbnyc, just be sure to wear asbestos gloves with that trick. Another good keyhole defense is 12″ of stiff wire. The perp will run off screaming. You’ll know him by the pirate look.
Needs more cowbell
and flame!!!
An absolute genius truck build! But I wouldn’t trust these guys anywhere near concrete block construction; any fool could predict those four puny bolts were going to pull right out of the wall, probably taking a lot of block with them. Chalk up one for the fool.
Wow, I feel truly honored to have an article posted here that recognizes and applauds my “twistedness.” Thanks, Gerard!
Over the last few months I found a few manufactured flamethrowers on the web, and most use propane as a fuel. Nah, I’ll stick to gas & diesel mix. Propane makes a flame that’s partially invisible in daylight, unless you ‘dirty it up’ with an admixture. Anyone who’s used an ‘industrial size’ propane torch- like a roofing torch for applying modified bitumen rolls knows what I mean.
Like one of these- https://www.bigrocksupply.com/sievert-3460-47-turboroofer-20-one-piece-field-torch-assembly-with-stand.aspx
Those broadcast about 3-6 feet, but can be “modified” to reach out about 8-9 feet when you hit the charge lever.
And at 9′, the forward 3′ of the flame is completely invisible. That’s seems a bit dangerous and kind of defeats the purpose of having a ‘big scary flame’ that takes advantage of the primitive, instinctive fear of fire that all mammals share. (even dumbass libtards)
To me, a flamethrower has a twofold use in a riot situation- the first- application as a tool of rather severe warning, and the second as an actual broad-scale weapon that delivers one of the cruelest and most agonizing ways to die. It doesn’t technically rely on ‘accuracy,’ which adds to the terror of those in the general area of it’s reach.
I figure if you walk into an angry, rioting mob, let loose a skyward blast of flame, and then level it at the rioters- then yell “WHO WANTS TO DIE FIRST?” it’ll more likely cause a very fast stampede away from you than your actually having to BBQ their asses with it.
Another big plus- a flamethrower leaves no ballistics, no spent brass, can’t be located by ‘shot spotters,’ and gasoline is a helluva lot cheaper and available than ammo. (even if you’re a reloader) It does tend to give away your location, though.
Now I just need to find a pair of asbestos underwear before I start building it!
If you look back on my blog a year or so ago, I do a ‘how to build a flammenwerfer’ for fun and profit… all the steps, tools and photos of ‘how to’… I also will build one for you for the right price…
Jes’ Sayin’
Big Country Expat-
I’ll look for that, and I appreciate all help in the design & manufacture, as this is a new horizon for me.
To all Californians- guess what? It’s “LEGAL” to own a flamethrower in CA.- TECHNICALLY. As long as it doesn’t project a flame over 10.’ Anything further than that requires a (chuckle) “flame thrower permit!”
Remember that law if you ever have more than 10 shots of tequila combined with 16 bean burritos, and are planning to light a fart. You could be charged with felonious flaming fartation.
https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=201720180AB1949
Speaking of California- weirdly enough, most of the state is now (and I quote) “SUDDENLY” in an “EXTREME DROUGHT.” Suddenly, huh? Just how the hell does something so closely monitored, and of that magnitude happen “suddenly?” Maybe because Newsom “suddenly” can’t hush it up any longer?
https://www.breitbart.com/environment/2021/05/09/most-of-california-suddenly-in-extreme-drought/
I was pleasantly surprised to see that San Diego County is using desalinization plants for most of their water. Why can’t the rest of CA do that? Did they forget about the Pacific Ocean being right there for them?
My Dad would have kicked me in the butt if I dragged an axe on the concrete like that….
X-Cal. Oete: using the ocean for water or for energy is too sustainable. Can’t be doin’ that!
Flame Thrower Betty. Good. Really good.
My list includes lots of stuff. Mortars. Cannon. Tanks. I’ll skip the jets and choppers but I’m sure somebody, somewhere, has a plan for those. But the top of my list is mortars. High angle hell.
For all of Gerard’s readers with money to burn: it is evidently possible to obtain a functional WWII M2-2 flamethrower (the type that was used on Iwo Jima and other Pacific islands) for a mere $30,000 to $50,000. Details here:
https://flamethrowerforsale.com/product/m2-2-flamethrower/
Big Country Expat-
Checked out your blog, and was slightly disappointed that I didn’t find a “search” feature to locate the flammenwerfer posts. So I was “forced” to scroll through all the newer posts until I found it. Glad I did.
Now I have the blog bookmarked so I can later read all the other articles at leisure. And thanks for the ‘leg up’ on the build- your design looks pretty good.
To those here who haven’t checked out the blog yet, DO IT! DOOOO IT! It’s freakin’ great.
PA Cat- Ouch. Those are some pricey relics, and I kinda doubt the (milsurp) ones for sale would be safe for use, considering their age. And $30-$50K? Double ouch…
I did see some newer design models at the bottom of the page for way cheaper, but they all seem to have VERY short duration times. Maybe I’ll figure out a design with “quick change” propellant and fuel tanks for the one I’m building.
Casey- yeah, free water from the world’s largest water supply! Sheesh- maybe its illegal in most of CA.- just like tapping into that gigantic Lower Tuscan Aquifer?
Mortars are pretty easy to build if you don’t mind using black powder & cannon fuse or a 209 primer. But some states like CA. view them as “destructive devices” or worse- a felony. Oh, and even those regular old hair spray-powered “potato cannons” we all built when we were kids are a felony in CA., too!
There’s a few websites that sell “golf ball” and “beer can” mortars online if you search around, but I’d be a bit leery of having one shipped to your actual address.
Pinto beans.
Ass hole.
Funnel
Sleeping leftist smug dumb-ass colleague.
Bic lighter.
Pete, Pete, Pete. What d you take me for? I want a complete mortar, with baseplate, bipod, traverse and aiming sight (in the case). And a palette of ammunition.
My son is going off on Israeli war crimes using white phosphorous. I told him that the willie pete mortar rounds that I drew from ordinance all had “for war crimes” written on the side. They are strictly for war crimes.
You want war crimes? Pull my finger!
When it comes to the whole thread I’m pretty much into it for the moments of Lizzy with the flamethrower.
Casey, Casey Casey!
I don’t know WHAT to take you for- you’re a unique kinda guy!
Well, if you end up getting one of those, could you order an extra one for me- pretty please?
Oh, and half a pallet of ammo would be good, too.
Let me know where to send the stack of large denomination unmarked bills.
Somebodies got palettes of ammo somewhere. Give it up! In my mind’s eye, I see the trucks leaving the loading docks, at Federal and Winchester, en-route to WalMart, Cabelas, Bass Pro…and in an undisclosed location in Ohio, or Kansas, or FumBuck, Oklahoma, they pull into a siding, and, in the dark of night, begin unloading palettes and palettes of 22 rimfire, 32 ACP, .308, .270. Black Market, baby.
But wait! In my dream, from the corner of the dark freeway cut, comes Flame-Thrower Lizzy! FW–OOOOmmFFF!
I awake before the ammo starts cooking off.
Ex-California Pete, if I had palettes of ammo, I’d for sure share that with you and present company.
Casey,
Ammo trucks headed to Kansas???? Ammo restocking at the gun range I work at is still spotty. 9 is still rare, 40 is available as is .223. The cost is stupid high though. I still have an old tin can of NATO 9mm, 1,200 rounds. That is for emergencies and if I have to open that up, things will have gotten BAD.
Tambien, I thought willie pete was also used as a marker round. Nice white plume to see where you hit, then adjust arty from there. But if just HAVE to make something burn, phosphorus will certainly do that.
Some how I don’t think most folks should be playing with this stuff.
Have you ever personally seen a human badly burned yet alive?, bad car crashes, split fuel tanks, human torch’s are not for the weak of heart. The worst are the children. The screaming asking god to make them dead. Or an older man begging me to shoot him, his wife of sixty years smoldering in the melted metal of what was once their Cadillac. I still have nightmares.
Had actually considered purchasing one of Big Country’s units, when I was spending time on wrsa ,actually a pretty sano build he does. End of the day, a bad idea for us.
For me the question is always How would we use this tool. I hate killing, and burning in my mind the absolute worst way to die.
Village Idiot
Casey-
I don’t have a FULL pallet of ammo yet, but working on it!
I’ve been casting projectiles in the hundreds about twice a week, reloading various calibers about every other day, and lately have been going to the outdoor range almost every evening before sunset. (free brass by the 100’s in MANY calibers.) My pure lead supply is now about 2/3 of a ton. Linotype and tin- about 55 lbs combined. Primers are well-stocked, and buying more when available. (at $34 per 1000)
In a few minutes I’m heading out to pick up two more 8lb jugs of IMR 3031 @ $185 each, and pick up a couple more 5 gallon gas cans at Rural King for $15 each.
To Dirk- yes, unfortunately, I’ve seen all that. I was one of the fortunate folks who survived the Camp Fire after being trapped in it and forced to drive through those flames for 2-1/2 hours of unimaginable horror.
To answer your question- as a tool to intimidate and dispatch the rioting domestic terrorists who have done over $2 billion in property damage, and have murdered innocent people and ruined countless lives. There’s an old saying- “Fight fire with fire.”
As I’ve said here many times- if you know of a better way to deal with them, I’m all ears.
Casey, regarding mortars; HDPE tube, less than an ounce of black powder, tosses baseball straight up over 300 feet. ( https://www.skylighter.com/blogs/how-to-make-fireworks/making-high-powered-black-powder )
Just sayin’.
D’OH!
Sometimes I’m a dimwit- I got on BCE’s blog again, and found that there IS a “search” box on it- upper left hand of the main page. Duhhhhhhh…