Even at that age, I had a dangerous breaking point, past which I lose it, and go nuclear. Just looking at that photo I can feel the wheels of that blood and death panic slam into gear. They ‘d have had a screaming, kicking, biting, hysterical wildcat on their hands.
I’d have been expelled.
Hah! Kids, wake up. The adults are so scared of you, they have to treat you like prisoners to keep you from harming them. If you all rebelled, what would they do? They can’t expel all of you.
Fletcher ChristianMay 19, 2021, 1:43 AM
John A. Fleming:
Can’t they? And inn any case, some people seem not to appreciate that we are still in a global pandemic. One that, if not for anti-vaxxers and denialists, we would have a good chance of being out of by now.
JoeDaddyMay 19, 2021, 2:52 AM
“john Fleming” has a neuroses. He is the type that have been praying for a mask-excuse their entire weak lives. Pissants.
Gnawbone JackMay 19, 2021, 4:14 AM
Give it a rest…
ghostsniperMay 19, 2021, 4:29 AM
Jeez Fletch, what happened to you?
It’s bad enough that you allowed the media to turn you into a terrified wuss but you have went so far over to the other side that you are trying to affect others. I’m not an advocate of counselling but in your case it might be helpful for your psychosis.
Annie RoseMay 19, 2021, 5:18 AM
State sanctioned and taxpayer funded child abuse. We have entire generations abused and programmed to submit to a totalitarian government. It’s already worked where I live in Chicago. Our local rag ran a story this morning of all the covidiots who proudly stated that even though the CDC and our feckless governor say we can remove our masks in most settings, they will continue to wear them outdoors, indoors, and in some cases, in their own homes. These nut cases also want to reassure the unvaccinated that they care about them and are “in solidarity” with them. Those with children need to get them the hell out of public school. Home school your kids and protect them from indoctrination and child abuse.
Damn, that is depressing; you can see the beaten down look in those kids’ faces….4 guards leering at them like they are criminals, and only God knows what those kids have to listen to from these smug overweening thug teachers during their long and tedious days in that concentration camp of a school.
I concur with jwm. I would have to have been hog-tied for my rejection of that kind of crap when I was a kid and that’s simply the long and short of it. I grew up with some kids from the local Methodist Children’s Home and the boys in particular were close to being ungovernable. I can only imagine the pure hell that they would have added to those conditions.
And Fletcher, I too have to ask….nah, screw it, I won’t bother. Life presents too many other and more interesting puzzles for contemplation, but I’m glad you drop in just the same. Every village needs one.
EX-Californian PeteMay 19, 2021, 8:19 AM
Those poor kids…
That “school resource officer” (a pretty benign-sounding name) looks pretty heavily “equipped” for her title- looks more like a fully armed regular Police Officer to me. And wait just a minute- aren’t schools supposed to be “GUN-FREE ZONES?”
And that overweight School Nurse looks like she should probably practice some “healthy lifestyle habits” before she preaches them to others. Seems kinda hypocritical, huh?
Speaking of overweight, look at that gigantic Shamu of a teacher in the upper right-hand corner. What a horrible example to set for kids. And looks like the little black girl is already following that example.
I wonder if the school is REALLY sincere about the “6′ social distancing,” and have taken the time and effort to move all the bathroom urinals, sinks, dispensers, etc., that mandatory 6′ apart, or if they just put another “officer” in the restrooms to control the kids’ distancing. Maybe that’s what the Glock, taser, and handcuffs are for?
And I bet the kid’s first class of the day will be their “Critical Race Theory” class that teaches them that all whiteys are Nazi racist scumbag whip-crackin’ massas, and how all that raping, robbing, burning, looting, and murdering that blacks have done throughout the ages is ALL Whitey’s fault!
Then comes the next class- where they teach kids that boys are girls and girls are boys and that there are all kinds of disgusting, sick, perverted sex acts that are now “OK” in today’s society that were illegal or taboo a few years ago because of some now-extinct thing called “morality.”
And today’s “special class guest” is the local Boy Scout Troop Scoutmaster- the celebrated “trans-person” who will explain how to earn the new, special “sodomy merit badge” when kids join.
Hey, there’s only been 34,000 (reported) cases of child molestation in the BSA, so why not add a few more? And hey, who cares that these kids aren’t even close to puberty yet?
See why I fully support private schools and homeschooling?
Hey, Fletcher- looks like you’re having one of those really bad days again. Maybe doubling up on the antidepressants might help. That is unless you’re one of those “anti-medicators.”
Do these people ever stop to consider what message they are sending to our children? They are teaching them two very negative lessons about the world.
1) You should fear all others because they can be a danger to you.
2) Only representatives of the State can protect.
Both these lessons together will have a disastrous effect on our culture. Police States grow out of irrational fears such as these.
Well, I was officer friendly for 11 years. Single most important job I ever had. What the haters don’t seem to grasp is simply this. I was their for the kids, not the system. My shift was 800 to 500, I don’t recall a time in that time span I wasn’t on any of the seven campus after 600 am, to assist with the many issues. I don’t recall ever being home before 1800. No overtime, just believed in the youth of our community.
I spent thousands feeding and clothing kids in need, as did my wife a teacher in another district.
My main mission was to educate our community youth to teach them the law, so that those kids could make informed choices.
I could have taken an assignment back in Narcotics, or I could have gone to the homicide slots, yet I wanted to make a difference in our community. I didn’t hesitate to reach out for our first SRO position.
At first I failed terribly, made the mistake of a curriculum based education in the classrooms. A few teachers and me thought perhaps I should let the students lead the class, answer their questions and teach them verbatim what the law books the constitution and the Bill of rights said.
Always and I do mean always started out every class with this question. “ I have a friend who’s 14 her boyfriends 18, or 17 or? And their having sex they REALLY love each other. We would crack the books and read word for word what exactly the law said. End of each class we would have the students tell us in their words what they got out of knowing the actual wordage of the laws. Very informative, very educational.
Took about two years, but these kids started to make informed choices based on facts, not the classroom attorney. I especially loved it when they challenged my fellow officers out on the streets. Demanding to know what the officers PC was for the vehicle stop. My favorite was when the chief called me in, tells me my fellow officers are really pissed at me for teaching these kids the law, especially their rights.
Seems the students were refusing search’s and in some instances reading back the exact language written in the law. They were pissed, I was proud of these kids, they would go on to make positive contributions in our community, they knew how to access the laws their rights and the constitution.
In many ways these kids provided teachable moments to officers who were often lazy slugs piss poor officers. Truthfully a few did not belong in the profession.
So laugh all you want at the popo standing their, just remember this. It is your citizen legislators who make the rules, not the police. You got a bone to pick grow a set of balls, and challenge your elected “ Representatives” .
Pile on folks, got broad shoulders after 25 years of never getting anything right in that profession.
Village Idiot
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EX-Californian PeteMay 19, 2021, 11:00 AM
Dirk, I’ll be the first one to “pile on.”
Thank you.
For your dedication, your service, and your personal and financial sacrifice to the community and the kids. As you’ve probably already noticed, I strongly support our LEOS (except for the rare ‘bad’ ones) and our teachers- the “old school” kind of teachers that haven’t bowed down to liberalism and indoctrination of our youth with the CRT crap and “gender fluidity” or “LGBTXYZ” bullsh*t.
When I was a kid, the only times a LEO would be in one of my schools was for things like drug education or safe driving education. Cops in schools weren’t needed on a full time basis, but that was long ago, and society has changed a helluva lot since then.
We were taught to respect LEOs because their job was to protect citizens and serve justice.
I can’t imagine what schools say about LEOs to kids nowadays, but I hope it’s the same message.
There you are- both barrels!
Kevin in PAMay 19, 2021, 11:15 AM
I am so glad my children are long past school age.
I share your sentiment, jwm. I look at the kid in the front of that pic and I become annoyed thinking of the nonsense he must have to endure. When I was his age, I was nearly incorrigible. I would have been expelled for refusing to wear the damn face diaper.
John A. FlemingMay 19, 2021, 11:51 AM
I’m not sure how it’s neurotic to comment on the visuals of a picture.
I’ll say it another way. If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. And cops know how to deal with prisoners. It looks to me like the kids are being trained, and the kids know it.
When I was little, if a cop came to our school, it was a bfd and no good could come from it. The sight of a cop at school was bad juju is a’comin for somebody. And now that I think about it, the cops themselves were nervous about it. Their voices and mannerisms were all overstressed.
To this day I have a vigorous skepticism about the value and trustworthiness of police forces in our society. On a scale of 1-10, I’m about a 2. Some days I’m a 1. I don’t think it matters that there are only “a few bad apples” as they way. When the time comes that the command structure says to round up all the deplorables du jour and shoot anyone who declines, I’m pretty certain that they will all join in. With enthusiasm. It’s good to be a cop, or a DA, or a judge. Doesn’t matter to them who the sovereign is, a tyrant or a free people, they are above the people and their life is secured.
ghostsniperMay 19, 2021, 11:59 AM
Dirk sed: “I was their for the kids, not the system.”
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Bull fucking shit.
You were there for the paycheck.
Dirk sed: “You got a bone to pick grow a set of balls, and challenge your elected “ Representatives”
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Nuremberg defense. Didn’t work then, nor now.
I wonder how I got through 13 years of public schooling with no jackboot on site?
Oh that’s right, school administrators used to have balls and minds and were paid meagerly to use them. Try to imagine what public schools will be like 40 years from now.
As an architect I have to mention that it is not by coincidence that public schools look like penitentiaries. Prisoners and guards, like Dirk.
VanderleunMay 19, 2021, 12:21 PM
You’re wrong about Dirk, ghost. Couldn’t be more wrong. When I say, “You’ve no idea” trust me, you’ve no idea.
ghostsniperMay 19, 2021, 1:42 PM
I don’t know the dood.
All I have to go on are his written words.
Frankly, I’m disappointed.
BrucephMay 19, 2021, 2:57 PM
There’s a lot more to discuss in the picture than the current news events, methinks. And a lot of it is going to be old news, like centuries even ifn’ you drill down. Little Johnny prolly had a load on his mind before he even got on the bus, never mind off. There are so many clues here, in each figure, in the dress, in the stance, in the ‘system’ of education they’re all a part of (as are we, colluders), in the architecture; and each clue brings on another story of… You know part of the American problem might be that we’ve arrived, and there’s no place left to go but in, and there’s no room at the inn.
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Kevin in PAMay 19, 2021, 4:39 PM
Bruceph,
I do not like to be cast into the collective of “we”.
And exactly what are you accusing the “we” of colluding.
VanderleunMay 19, 2021, 4:39 PM
Well, not everyone has the way with the words, ghost. In life he does not disappoint. Indeed, I would say he is “a man of his word.”
BrucephMay 19, 2021, 6:35 PM
Kevin,
It’s an admittedly loose term and maybe implies a little more perniciousness than intended. Perhaps another would be more appropriate. We pay taxes, we put our kids in school… that can be a collusion of sorts. “We’re” not, most of us I should think, capable of taking an uncompromising stand for something; ok once in a while, sometimes, something. We know we don’t have all the info, the perceptions, the know-how, the money.
For the most part, we are in control [of our lives, our kid’s lives], until we find we are not. As for tossing you into the collective we, nothing personal was meant, and your objection is well noted, as it should be. But, you understand, no man is an island.
As I see it, the current department of education doesn’t want you to know what’s happening inside the school. The less you know the better. They (the school ‘system’) see parents as somehow less capable, or they are the problem. Often parents are the problem, no doubt. And who needs someone breathing down one’s neck anyway, if you know what I mean. But they are hirelings, which they can easily forget. And it’s so easy to actually love the students because teachers are human beings. It’s a squishy area I’m rubbing up against here… but it’s part of the whole deal, and not insignificant.
Necessarily so. For a not immaterial segment of school populations I’ve been in (just passing through mind you-taking things in as I go about my business), schools can be described as prisons. Private schools… indoctrination camps; and more so the pricier.
I think the photo reflects this. The city/state ‘posing’ as the pricier (with the full backing of the taxpayer). But it’s all one big pose in a way, and I think this comment thread reflects that thought. And the higher the grade level the more of a pose.
Of course, now it’s so bad that it’s from nursery school on up. The systems have become, intentionally as well as by their nature, V’ger. It’s a perfect storm, being the case now since I was in high school back in ’67-I can’t remember LOL…
I do remember in Jr. high a teacher telling the class, I think it was my civics teacher, the country is going the way of Rome. I didn’t understand that what that meant was for ‘us’ to not follow the crowd, to lead lives of productive virtue. And to the extent I did know, “what I meant was” (to paraphrase a Regan-ism) I certainly didn’t mean to do what I did in that, in my regard, I was lighting the fire. We can see it burning now.
ghostsniperMay 19, 2021, 7:15 PM
The worst thing this rotten assed gov’t ever did was hijack the education system for that is the root of all of the societal ills. It has programed many generations of increasingly idiotic idiots with each new generation worse than the one before. Not only do they not think but they don’t even know how to think. When you can’t use the only tool that makes you better than an animal you become the animal by default. Most animals are prey.
The deliberate dumbing down of America. It’s for real, and it’s been going on a real long time. Read all about it. http://deliberatedumbingdown.com/ddd/
Well gooood morning, Ghost, fuck you right back! Lol. Good morning. Many of the things you say are true, no sugar coating em. What I didn’t say was this. As a kid I was hell on wheels, if it wasn’t tacked down I took it, if it wasn’t secure, I’d destroy it. What I lacked was discipline. Came from a responsible conservative family.
What changed ,,,,, I went into the military. A JUDGE gave me an option, I took the military.
Did eight active, separated and went skiing for almost a year. The family cabin on top of Donner Summit. The year 1983 the snow was taller then the power poles that year.
Joined the reserves, and was apart of a team teaching explosive entry to law enforcement. I was recruited. I went home told my wife I was going into law enforcement. She laughed for an hour, you law enforcement, right.
Initially was assigned to narcotic, UC stuff, I quit after I realized I wasn’t making a difference, I was maybe getting to the mid level suppliers, to them it was just business. Jail was the price of doing business.
Went back to patrol, always worked the tough hoods, had a system I’d spend a great deal of time talking with the people, drink coffee with em encourage then to get clean, or support them to get employment, write letters in support, talked to many employers asking them to give these guys a chance.
Admittedly many failed, but I wasn’t going to give up on them, ever. I spent big on ice cream for the kids, would sit on the curb with a group of youth, developing relationships. To this day I still see and greet these young ones with a hardy hand shake and a sincere concern.
Yes we still help with cash from time to time, we also donated to kids with nothing going thru jr. college, my wife taught their parents how to do their Faspa, ? Paperwork, so they could receive college money. Many many native Americans Hispanics, blacks and whites.
A lot of work, but the benefits of these youths graduating moving on to grad school, or entering the work force was worth every minute. I can’t tell you how much money we spent on high school and college grad gifts, don’t really matter. We gave silver as gifts, in fact we still give silver as grad presents. a lesson in that aswell. Five ounces each. Back then that was roughly fifty dollars.
So ghost, I don’t really care what you or anybody else thinks of me, in fact I’m amused you would take the time to comment.
This I know, Haters gotta hate. If the shoe fits, wear it. Life’s fantastic, I’ve learned in life that cop haters are usually the people who took a spanking. We’re held accountable by the enforcement arm of society. Brother get over it!
I’m not a fan of govt either, we agree on far more then not. I did what I did, no apologies, I got some right, and some wrong. Life is the lesson!
Dirk
ghostsniperMay 20, 2021, 8:08 AM
Dirk sed: “I don’t really care what you or anybody else thinks”
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As it should be.
If we were condemned by our past almost everyone would be in jail.
EX-Californian PeteMay 20, 2021, 8:10 AM
Ghost-
Sorry to strongly disagree, but the actual “root of all of the societal ills” in this country is BAD PARENTING. And that includes not having a father, (74% of black kids, 27% of white kids) having lazy parents, or parents that just don’t give a crap.
That then leads to either the government or the schools “raising” those kids.
If you want follow the problematic food chain, then you can blame teacher’s unions, the local Superintendents, the local School Board, then the DoE. Then ask why the PTA system is almost extinct.
The teacher’s unions (to me) are the worst and most destructive in that list- try to find even one that isn’t hyper-Liberal and Socialistic.
Then consider that less than 10% of the USA’s current college Professors are Conservative.
Combine that with the amount of Democrat/Socialist funding that influences our “higher education” institutions.
And I believe you’ve mistaken “thinking” for the ability to reason- all animals think, but only Humans have the ability to reason.
THINKING simply uses a large array of thought production- that can be either conscious or unconscious. Or maybe both.
However, REASONING is the conscious production of mental thought- combined with the use of logic. You can see from the actual definitions themselves- unlike reasoning, thinking is not always logical, nor is it conscious.
EX-Californian PeteMay 20, 2021, 9:06 AM
Contrary to the above photo, it’s nice to see that some school kids have ‘had enough’ and are lashing back in a peaceful, intelligent way. I think anyone here would be proud to have the kid in this videoas their son.
Watch and enjoy- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brSSovT5Tt0&t=86s
The only downside of the video (for me) is that it seems every School Board meeting and school event seems to now require an armed Police Officer.
Has the general public become so damn psychotic and dangerous that it’s actually necessary?
And NO, I’m not ragging on Cops- I’m ragging on the general public.
ghostsniperMay 20, 2021, 12:38 PM
@Pete, I’ve written about this several times before.
The bad parenting is of late and the bad schools precedes it by many decades.
Bad parenting, as you noted, was rare before the 1960’s by any race in the US.
But the bad schooling has been going on for most of the 20th century.
I taught 11th and 12th grade for a spell.
We home educated our only child.
I’ll not get into the semantics of thinking and reasoning, nor will I explain myself constantly.
TellurianMay 20, 2021, 11:44 PM
Just a thought, Dirk. Let’s not quibble about whether you were or were not a good cop. We have your word and that’s good enough in this context. Likewise, to demonize law enforcement as a whole is a dead end argument. To me, the picture raises the spectre of what could be rather than what might actually be the case. Stanley Milgram did an experiment in the 60’s on obedience to authority. Good men, moral men, even educated men obeyed authority and did what they never thought they would ordinarily do to other human beings…just because they were told to do so. Did they all? Of course not. Would you? Would I? I think not, but so said they all. In the coming coming days, will law enforcement yield to what they know is good and right, or will they obey authority instead? Remember, Milgram’s experiment, so said they all.
ghostsniperMay 21, 2021, 4:31 AM
Tellurian axed: “….or will they obey authority instead?”
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They will obey the paycheck, after all, that’s why they’re there in the first place.
Cut the paycheck in half and watch em scatter.
Besides, every single one of them has already shown they have no compunction about violating the rights of others. fuk em ded
james wilsonMay 21, 2021, 12:57 PM
The 19th Amendment is the gift that never stops giving. Odious women and weak men on the path to Utopia.
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Even at that age, I had a dangerous breaking point, past which I lose it, and go nuclear. Just looking at that photo I can feel the wheels of that blood and death panic slam into gear. They ‘d have had a screaming, kicking, biting, hysterical wildcat on their hands.
I’d have been expelled.
JWM
Some cheer from TIME magazine in a previous era.
Featuring Merle Haggard, ‘I’m A White Boy’.
https://youtu.be/epnqisvSCwo?t=21
Pound salt all you nasty little Democraps.
Hah! Kids, wake up. The adults are so scared of you, they have to treat you like prisoners to keep you from harming them. If you all rebelled, what would they do? They can’t expel all of you.
John A. Fleming:
Can’t they? And inn any case, some people seem not to appreciate that we are still in a global pandemic. One that, if not for anti-vaxxers and denialists, we would have a good chance of being out of by now.
“john Fleming” has a neuroses. He is the type that have been praying for a mask-excuse their entire weak lives. Pissants.
Give it a rest…
Jeez Fletch, what happened to you?
It’s bad enough that you allowed the media to turn you into a terrified wuss but you have went so far over to the other side that you are trying to affect others. I’m not an advocate of counselling but in your case it might be helpful for your psychosis.
State sanctioned and taxpayer funded child abuse. We have entire generations abused and programmed to submit to a totalitarian government. It’s already worked where I live in Chicago. Our local rag ran a story this morning of all the covidiots who proudly stated that even though the CDC and our feckless governor say we can remove our masks in most settings, they will continue to wear them outdoors, indoors, and in some cases, in their own homes. These nut cases also want to reassure the unvaccinated that they care about them and are “in solidarity” with them. Those with children need to get them the hell out of public school. Home school your kids and protect them from indoctrination and child abuse.
It’s Yankees. They never did know how to act decent.
The discerning had this figured out long, long ago.
https://tinyurl.com/yysz8z8u
Damn, that is depressing; you can see the beaten down look in those kids’ faces….4 guards leering at them like they are criminals, and only God knows what those kids have to listen to from these smug overweening thug teachers during their long and tedious days in that concentration camp of a school.
I concur with jwm. I would have to have been hog-tied for my rejection of that kind of crap when I was a kid and that’s simply the long and short of it. I grew up with some kids from the local Methodist Children’s Home and the boys in particular were close to being ungovernable. I can only imagine the pure hell that they would have added to those conditions.
And Fletcher, I too have to ask….nah, screw it, I won’t bother. Life presents too many other and more interesting puzzles for contemplation, but I’m glad you drop in just the same. Every village needs one.
Those poor kids…
That “school resource officer” (a pretty benign-sounding name) looks pretty heavily “equipped” for her title- looks more like a fully armed regular Police Officer to me. And wait just a minute- aren’t schools supposed to be “GUN-FREE ZONES?”
And that overweight School Nurse looks like she should probably practice some “healthy lifestyle habits” before she preaches them to others. Seems kinda hypocritical, huh?
Speaking of overweight, look at that gigantic Shamu of a teacher in the upper right-hand corner. What a horrible example to set for kids. And looks like the little black girl is already following that example.
I wonder if the school is REALLY sincere about the “6′ social distancing,” and have taken the time and effort to move all the bathroom urinals, sinks, dispensers, etc., that mandatory 6′ apart, or if they just put another “officer” in the restrooms to control the kids’ distancing. Maybe that’s what the Glock, taser, and handcuffs are for?
And I bet the kid’s first class of the day will be their “Critical Race Theory” class that teaches them that all whiteys are Nazi racist scumbag whip-crackin’ massas, and how all that raping, robbing, burning, looting, and murdering that blacks have done throughout the ages is ALL Whitey’s fault!
Then comes the next class- where they teach kids that boys are girls and girls are boys and that there are all kinds of disgusting, sick, perverted sex acts that are now “OK” in today’s society that were illegal or taboo a few years ago because of some now-extinct thing called “morality.”
And today’s “special class guest” is the local Boy Scout Troop Scoutmaster- the celebrated “trans-person” who will explain how to earn the new, special “sodomy merit badge” when kids join.
Hey, there’s only been 34,000 (reported) cases of child molestation in the BSA, so why not add a few more? And hey, who cares that these kids aren’t even close to puberty yet?
See why I fully support private schools and homeschooling?
Hey, Fletcher- looks like you’re having one of those really bad days again. Maybe doubling up on the antidepressants might help. That is unless you’re one of those “anti-medicators.”
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Do these people ever stop to consider what message they are sending to our children? They are teaching them two very negative lessons about the world.
1) You should fear all others because they can be a danger to you.
2) Only representatives of the State can protect.
Both these lessons together will have a disastrous effect on our culture. Police States grow out of irrational fears such as these.
Well, I was officer friendly for 11 years. Single most important job I ever had. What the haters don’t seem to grasp is simply this. I was their for the kids, not the system. My shift was 800 to 500, I don’t recall a time in that time span I wasn’t on any of the seven campus after 600 am, to assist with the many issues. I don’t recall ever being home before 1800. No overtime, just believed in the youth of our community.
I spent thousands feeding and clothing kids in need, as did my wife a teacher in another district.
My main mission was to educate our community youth to teach them the law, so that those kids could make informed choices.
I could have taken an assignment back in Narcotics, or I could have gone to the homicide slots, yet I wanted to make a difference in our community. I didn’t hesitate to reach out for our first SRO position.
At first I failed terribly, made the mistake of a curriculum based education in the classrooms. A few teachers and me thought perhaps I should let the students lead the class, answer their questions and teach them verbatim what the law books the constitution and the Bill of rights said.
Always and I do mean always started out every class with this question. “ I have a friend who’s 14 her boyfriends 18, or 17 or? And their having sex they REALLY love each other. We would crack the books and read word for word what exactly the law said. End of each class we would have the students tell us in their words what they got out of knowing the actual wordage of the laws. Very informative, very educational.
Took about two years, but these kids started to make informed choices based on facts, not the classroom attorney. I especially loved it when they challenged my fellow officers out on the streets. Demanding to know what the officers PC was for the vehicle stop. My favorite was when the chief called me in, tells me my fellow officers are really pissed at me for teaching these kids the law, especially their rights.
Seems the students were refusing search’s and in some instances reading back the exact language written in the law. They were pissed, I was proud of these kids, they would go on to make positive contributions in our community, they knew how to access the laws their rights and the constitution.
In many ways these kids provided teachable moments to officers who were often lazy slugs piss poor officers. Truthfully a few did not belong in the profession.
So laugh all you want at the popo standing their, just remember this. It is your citizen legislators who make the rules, not the police. You got a bone to pick grow a set of balls, and challenge your elected “ Representatives” .
Pile on folks, got broad shoulders after 25 years of never getting anything right in that profession.
Village Idiot
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Dirk, I’ll be the first one to “pile on.”
Thank you.
For your dedication, your service, and your personal and financial sacrifice to the community and the kids. As you’ve probably already noticed, I strongly support our LEOS (except for the rare ‘bad’ ones) and our teachers- the “old school” kind of teachers that haven’t bowed down to liberalism and indoctrination of our youth with the CRT crap and “gender fluidity” or “LGBTXYZ” bullsh*t.
When I was a kid, the only times a LEO would be in one of my schools was for things like drug education or safe driving education. Cops in schools weren’t needed on a full time basis, but that was long ago, and society has changed a helluva lot since then.
We were taught to respect LEOs because their job was to protect citizens and serve justice.
I can’t imagine what schools say about LEOs to kids nowadays, but I hope it’s the same message.
There you are- both barrels!
I am so glad my children are long past school age.
I share your sentiment, jwm. I look at the kid in the front of that pic and I become annoyed thinking of the nonsense he must have to endure. When I was his age, I was nearly incorrigible. I would have been expelled for refusing to wear the damn face diaper.
I’m not sure how it’s neurotic to comment on the visuals of a picture.
I’ll say it another way. If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. And cops know how to deal with prisoners. It looks to me like the kids are being trained, and the kids know it.
When I was little, if a cop came to our school, it was a bfd and no good could come from it. The sight of a cop at school was bad juju is a’comin for somebody. And now that I think about it, the cops themselves were nervous about it. Their voices and mannerisms were all overstressed.
To this day I have a vigorous skepticism about the value and trustworthiness of police forces in our society. On a scale of 1-10, I’m about a 2. Some days I’m a 1. I don’t think it matters that there are only “a few bad apples” as they way. When the time comes that the command structure says to round up all the deplorables du jour and shoot anyone who declines, I’m pretty certain that they will all join in. With enthusiasm. It’s good to be a cop, or a DA, or a judge. Doesn’t matter to them who the sovereign is, a tyrant or a free people, they are above the people and their life is secured.
Dirk sed: “I was their for the kids, not the system.”
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Bull fucking shit.
You were there for the paycheck.
Dirk sed: “You got a bone to pick grow a set of balls, and challenge your elected “ Representatives”
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Nuremberg defense. Didn’t work then, nor now.
I wonder how I got through 13 years of public schooling with no jackboot on site?
Oh that’s right, school administrators used to have balls and minds and were paid meagerly to use them. Try to imagine what public schools will be like 40 years from now.
As an architect I have to mention that it is not by coincidence that public schools look like penitentiaries. Prisoners and guards, like Dirk.
You’re wrong about Dirk, ghost. Couldn’t be more wrong. When I say, “You’ve no idea” trust me, you’ve no idea.
I don’t know the dood.
All I have to go on are his written words.
Frankly, I’m disappointed.
There’s a lot more to discuss in the picture than the current news events, methinks. And a lot of it is going to be old news, like centuries even ifn’ you drill down. Little Johnny prolly had a load on his mind before he even got on the bus, never mind off. There are so many clues here, in each figure, in the dress, in the stance, in the ‘system’ of education they’re all a part of (as are we, colluders), in the architecture; and each clue brings on another story of… You know part of the American problem might be that we’ve arrived, and there’s no place left to go but in, and there’s no room at the inn.
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Bruceph,
I do not like to be cast into the collective of “we”.
And exactly what are you accusing the “we” of colluding.
Well, not everyone has the way with the words, ghost. In life he does not disappoint. Indeed, I would say he is “a man of his word.”
Kevin,
It’s an admittedly loose term and maybe implies a little more perniciousness than intended. Perhaps another would be more appropriate. We pay taxes, we put our kids in school… that can be a collusion of sorts. “We’re” not, most of us I should think, capable of taking an uncompromising stand for something; ok once in a while, sometimes, something. We know we don’t have all the info, the perceptions, the know-how, the money.
For the most part, we are in control [of our lives, our kid’s lives], until we find we are not. As for tossing you into the collective we, nothing personal was meant, and your objection is well noted, as it should be. But, you understand, no man is an island.
As I see it, the current department of education doesn’t want you to know what’s happening inside the school. The less you know the better. They (the school ‘system’) see parents as somehow less capable, or they are the problem. Often parents are the problem, no doubt. And who needs someone breathing down one’s neck anyway, if you know what I mean. But they are hirelings, which they can easily forget. And it’s so easy to actually love the students because teachers are human beings. It’s a squishy area I’m rubbing up against here… but it’s part of the whole deal, and not insignificant.
Necessarily so. For a not immaterial segment of school populations I’ve been in (just passing through mind you-taking things in as I go about my business), schools can be described as prisons. Private schools… indoctrination camps; and more so the pricier.
I think the photo reflects this. The city/state ‘posing’ as the pricier (with the full backing of the taxpayer). But it’s all one big pose in a way, and I think this comment thread reflects that thought. And the higher the grade level the more of a pose.
Of course, now it’s so bad that it’s from nursery school on up. The systems have become, intentionally as well as by their nature, V’ger. It’s a perfect storm, being the case now since I was in high school back in ’67-I can’t remember LOL…
I do remember in Jr. high a teacher telling the class, I think it was my civics teacher, the country is going the way of Rome. I didn’t understand that what that meant was for ‘us’ to not follow the crowd, to lead lives of productive virtue. And to the extent I did know, “what I meant was” (to paraphrase a Regan-ism) I certainly didn’t mean to do what I did in that, in my regard, I was lighting the fire. We can see it burning now.
The worst thing this rotten assed gov’t ever did was hijack the education system for that is the root of all of the societal ills. It has programed many generations of increasingly idiotic idiots with each new generation worse than the one before. Not only do they not think but they don’t even know how to think. When you can’t use the only tool that makes you better than an animal you become the animal by default. Most animals are prey.
The deliberate dumbing down of America. It’s for real, and it’s been going on a real long time. Read all about it. http://deliberatedumbingdown.com/ddd/
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Well gooood morning, Ghost, fuck you right back! Lol. Good morning. Many of the things you say are true, no sugar coating em. What I didn’t say was this. As a kid I was hell on wheels, if it wasn’t tacked down I took it, if it wasn’t secure, I’d destroy it. What I lacked was discipline. Came from a responsible conservative family.
What changed ,,,,, I went into the military. A JUDGE gave me an option, I took the military.
Did eight active, separated and went skiing for almost a year. The family cabin on top of Donner Summit. The year 1983 the snow was taller then the power poles that year.
Joined the reserves, and was apart of a team teaching explosive entry to law enforcement. I was recruited. I went home told my wife I was going into law enforcement. She laughed for an hour, you law enforcement, right.
Initially was assigned to narcotic, UC stuff, I quit after I realized I wasn’t making a difference, I was maybe getting to the mid level suppliers, to them it was just business. Jail was the price of doing business.
Went back to patrol, always worked the tough hoods, had a system I’d spend a great deal of time talking with the people, drink coffee with em encourage then to get clean, or support them to get employment, write letters in support, talked to many employers asking them to give these guys a chance.
Admittedly many failed, but I wasn’t going to give up on them, ever. I spent big on ice cream for the kids, would sit on the curb with a group of youth, developing relationships. To this day I still see and greet these young ones with a hardy hand shake and a sincere concern.
Yes we still help with cash from time to time, we also donated to kids with nothing going thru jr. college, my wife taught their parents how to do their Faspa, ? Paperwork, so they could receive college money. Many many native Americans Hispanics, blacks and whites.
A lot of work, but the benefits of these youths graduating moving on to grad school, or entering the work force was worth every minute. I can’t tell you how much money we spent on high school and college grad gifts, don’t really matter. We gave silver as gifts, in fact we still give silver as grad presents. a lesson in that aswell. Five ounces each. Back then that was roughly fifty dollars.
So ghost, I don’t really care what you or anybody else thinks of me, in fact I’m amused you would take the time to comment.
This I know, Haters gotta hate. If the shoe fits, wear it. Life’s fantastic, I’ve learned in life that cop haters are usually the people who took a spanking. We’re held accountable by the enforcement arm of society. Brother get over it!
I’m not a fan of govt either, we agree on far more then not. I did what I did, no apologies, I got some right, and some wrong. Life is the lesson!
Dirk
Dirk sed: “I don’t really care what you or anybody else thinks”
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As it should be.
If we were condemned by our past almost everyone would be in jail.
Ghost-
Sorry to strongly disagree, but the actual “root of all of the societal ills” in this country is BAD PARENTING. And that includes not having a father, (74% of black kids, 27% of white kids) having lazy parents, or parents that just don’t give a crap.
That then leads to either the government or the schools “raising” those kids.
If you want follow the problematic food chain, then you can blame teacher’s unions, the local Superintendents, the local School Board, then the DoE. Then ask why the PTA system is almost extinct.
The teacher’s unions (to me) are the worst and most destructive in that list- try to find even one that isn’t hyper-Liberal and Socialistic.
Then consider that less than 10% of the USA’s current college Professors are Conservative.
Combine that with the amount of Democrat/Socialist funding that influences our “higher education” institutions.
And I believe you’ve mistaken “thinking” for the ability to reason- all animals think, but only Humans have the ability to reason.
THINKING simply uses a large array of thought production- that can be either conscious or unconscious. Or maybe both.
However, REASONING is the conscious production of mental thought- combined with the use of logic. You can see from the actual definitions themselves- unlike reasoning, thinking is not always logical, nor is it conscious.
Contrary to the above photo, it’s nice to see that some school kids have ‘had enough’ and are lashing back in a peaceful, intelligent way. I think anyone here would be proud to have the kid in this videoas their son.
Watch and enjoy- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brSSovT5Tt0&t=86s
The only downside of the video (for me) is that it seems every School Board meeting and school event seems to now require an armed Police Officer.
Has the general public become so damn psychotic and dangerous that it’s actually necessary?
And NO, I’m not ragging on Cops- I’m ragging on the general public.
@Pete, I’ve written about this several times before.
The bad parenting is of late and the bad schools precedes it by many decades.
Bad parenting, as you noted, was rare before the 1960’s by any race in the US.
But the bad schooling has been going on for most of the 20th century.
I taught 11th and 12th grade for a spell.
We home educated our only child.
I’ll not get into the semantics of thinking and reasoning, nor will I explain myself constantly.
Just a thought, Dirk. Let’s not quibble about whether you were or were not a good cop. We have your word and that’s good enough in this context. Likewise, to demonize law enforcement as a whole is a dead end argument. To me, the picture raises the spectre of what could be rather than what might actually be the case. Stanley Milgram did an experiment in the 60’s on obedience to authority. Good men, moral men, even educated men obeyed authority and did what they never thought they would ordinarily do to other human beings…just because they were told to do so. Did they all? Of course not. Would you? Would I? I think not, but so said they all. In the coming coming days, will law enforcement yield to what they know is good and right, or will they obey authority instead? Remember, Milgram’s experiment, so said they all.
Tellurian axed: “….or will they obey authority instead?”
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They will obey the paycheck, after all, that’s why they’re there in the first place.
Cut the paycheck in half and watch em scatter.
Besides, every single one of them has already shown they have no compunction about violating the rights of others. fuk em ded
The 19th Amendment is the gift that never stops giving. Odious women and weak men on the path to Utopia.
You guys are all very slick.
I learn alot here