Lincoln: "If destruction be our lot we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen we must live through all time or die by suicide."

Here's a Lincoln quote for you:

"Any people anywhere, being inclined and having the power, have the right to rise up, and shake off the existing government, and form a new one that suits them better. This is a most valuable,-- most sacred right--a right, which we hope and believe, is to liberate the world. Nor is this right confined to cases in which the whole people of an existing government, may choose to exercise it. Any portion of such people that can, may revolutionize, and make their own, of so much of the teritory as they inhabit. "

Abraham Lincoln, January 12, 1848

He was in favor of Independence for Texas when they were leaving Mexico, but against it when they were leaving Him.

Posted by DiogenesLamp at September 30, 2016 12:43 PM

We live in an imperfect world along with pimps, poltroons, pietistic politicians, and yeoman proud.
Join with those you prefer, beware the fakers and traitors, and go forth kicking butt cheerfully.
If we are not perfect, let us at least be excellent.

Posted by Howard Nelson at September 30, 2016 1:53 PM

"Reason—cold, calculating, unimpassioned reason—must furnish all the materials for our future support and defense."


These words are sacred, inviolate, but now they are like poison to most - like children taking prescription cough syrup.

Posted by ghostsniper at September 30, 2016 2:44 PM

Lincoln was despicable. He violated the Constitution in many ways including imprisoning Baltimore newspaper editors because they disagreed with him. He was responsible for Sherman waging war on women and children.

Posted by bgarrett at October 1, 2016 2:51 AM

Words of wisdom from a President who would make the decisions that killed 700,000+ American Soldiers and Civilians.

Posted by H. Jones at October 1, 2016 7:50 AM

"Reason—cold, calculating, unimpassioned reason—must furnish all the materials for our future support and defense."

Marx, or Lenin?

Posted by james wilson at October 1, 2016 1:55 PM

jw, you beheaded the paragraph which it leads, but not killed the meaning intended as explained in the body and soul of the remaining paragraph.
What is your motive? Denigration of Lincoln for being in the cohort of Burke, Locke, Franklin, Madison, Adams, and other intellectual promoters of reasoned liberty?
That Lincoln prioritized/violated aspects of the Constitution justifiably to preserve the Constitution, is worth debating thoroughly.
What will we permit or applaud Clinton or Trump doing in the name or shame of preserving constitutional America?

Posted by Howard Nelson at October 1, 2016 6:37 PM

Every man loves his own reasons, and "Reason Inc." in its ivory tower cannot assail that bastion of self-interest where it sits in the mind of powerful people. Nor can it resist that mob of "Rabble Inc." when the misery index forces action. It must take its comforts where it can.

Posted by JoanOfArgghh at October 2, 2016 8:35 AM