March 10, 2015

They’ve got nothing. Their model, the USSR, collapsed ugly. Their policies are failing. Making conservatives go third party(s) is their ONLY chance.


The question of the moment is: "Are you going to LET them?"

Sarah Hoyt answers eloquently and correctly at Winter At Valley Forge | According To Hoyt


For a hundred years, they’ve patiently been working. They took over one of the major parties. They took over education. They took over the mass media and entertainment and the arts. They had a whole wall of coordinated messages and it all imploded. Clinton? Don’t make me laugh. Should they manage to elect her, her disastrous incompetence will be obvious. Bill Clinton only had a patina of glitz because there was no internet, no dissident voices. Now? Pah.

Net Neutrality? Bah. Six months. Like their attempts at gun grabbing being squelched by 3-d printing and horse sense, give our bright boys six months and net neutrality will be circumvented. Built around, built under, ignored.

Their only hope is division in our ranks.

I say we don’t give it to them. I say we keep taking over the GOP. We’ve been at this for what? Optimistically 20 years. Not a fraction of their (at least) 100.

Yeah, we’ll eat live eels sometimes. Like, say, we couldn’t counter the veto on the Keystone pipeline. However the people claiming that as another reason to defect CAN’T be even “I’ll hold my nose and vote republican” people. NONE of the GOP defected on that. Not one. And some democrats defected to the GOP side. It is not a sign to despair, but a sign of hope.

As for those other democrats? The stooges of a long-dead system? Putin’s best buds? Yeah. We’re coming for them too.

And then, once we’ve pulled our ship off the rocks, once we’ve made the dems into a wreck, or alternately into an American party again, THEN we can have a grand fight Libertarians against Socons. I’m looking forward to it! I’ll be seventy or so, and if I run like my family, a little old lady scary beyond all reason.

But right now? Right now people are trying to destroy us, and our civilization and world.

In the end we win, they lose. Reality is on our side. But the “end” can be a long ways away.

The question is, are you going to cave into their games and let them destroy a third of the world and send civilization into the dark for hundreds of years or not?

I vote not. I understand your impulse.

But this is no time to get wobbly. Keep Calm and Keep Taking Over the GOP.

[The whole thing. Read it you will. At Winter At Valley Forge | According To Hoyt ]

Posted by gerardvanderleun at March 10, 2015 12:49 PM
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This argument makes no sense. It starts out arguing inevitability of the collapse of the left because their ideas are bankrupt, their policies failed, and their concepts absurd. They have no hope, eventually they must lose.

Then it tries to argue that unless conservatives stay with the Republican party then the left will win.

Christopher Taylor

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Posted by: Van der Leun at March 10, 2015 12:52 PM

Since I expect it to be censored over there, I add my "two bits" here as well:

YOU go ahead and try to “save” it from “within”.
You’re entitled to your opinion.
I’m entitled to say you’re acting like a F*CKING BATTERED WIFE.

You’ll be welcome to join us after the GOP kicks in your balls/ovaries over the next 2 years.
But, until then, F*CK THE GOP and F*CK ANYONE SUPPORTING that Party.

SURE, I’ll support the GOP in 2016 if it’s some ticket like Walker/Cruz or such.

YOU grow up.
YOU get real.
YOU look at what’s happening.
YOU accept the facts as they are.

Posted by: Kauf Buch at March 10, 2015 2:08 PM

Given the ongoing supine stance of the RINOP, their capitulations since winning majority in both House and Senate, the gutless leadership of Estrogen Boi and Turkey Wattle, and the upcoming infusion of millions more of Los Vibrantes Enrichmentadoros ... I'd suggest that Ms. Hoyt give up hallucinogens and get herself into rehab.

They are both Enemy Parties. They are the fecal thesis and antithesis of Freddy Hegels' All-Purpose Commie Kit

There will be no electoral solutions

Prepare Accordingly

Posted by: OhioDude at March 10, 2015 2:20 PM

So where is the point-by-point counter-arguments to Hoyt's positions?
Did the Ottoman Empire collapse? Did the Nazi Empire collapse? Did Stalin's Empire shed structure? Has Mao's China been economically cowed into adopting freer enterprise systems?
Are the crapheads tyrannizing in South America sliding down the poop chute? How grandly are all the African despotic leaders, dead and living, doing? Are Middle-East leaders [excluding Egypt's and Israel's] defecating on the dunes, fearful of losing power?
Are we due for some fearsome times here during our reclamation period? Probably so, but as Fred said, "So What?" Adults must clean up the messes they make. It's the difference between being mature and being manure.

Posted by: Howard Nelson at March 10, 2015 4:50 PM

I'm surprised that Carville provided so profound a public service announcement. Mary must have goaded him into it.

Democrats of a sort have a far greater understanding of the true nature of democratic government. Conservatives do not understand that the left is not perverting democracy; they are perfecting it.

Posted by: james wilson at March 10, 2015 7:17 PM


This election more than any other was won by people like us voting negative. We didn't, did not want the incumbents to remain in office so we made choices that were not positive ones.
We didn't care what the pol's record was or if he had some little secrets and shortcomings, all we knew was that he was not a Democrat.
Perhaps that strategy will be the prevailing one in future elections. Instead of "I am this and I promise that" we'll see "I'm not this and I will not that".

I am not surprised. Sad, yeah, in the melancholy sense. The change in power in Congress was inevitable. The Democrats have shown no regard for the voice of any people except the usual suspects: special interest groups, People of Color, and money people. What bothers me is the mindset, the tactics we had to adopt in order to gain some control. I am wondering exactly what it is that we have won? The ensuing months will tell the tale. All these pols we put in to take control of Congress, most of them got in because we were voting against Dems, not necessarily for them.

Is there anybody reading this stuff that still believes if only we had:
•Tea Party
•Penguins for a Gun-free Antarctica
•Sarah Palin
•Donald Trump
•all of the above
•none of the above
that all our troubles would go away?

Posted by: chasmatic at March 10, 2015 9:52 PM

going on 30 years now of being betrayed upon by the corporate-socialist, open-borders, neo-con WarMonger, MoarGubmint Republiscam Party. And by the way, the Sarah Hoyt doesn't live in Valley Forge. It lives in Portugal. Ted Cruz? Its wife is a bankstercrook at Goldman-Sachs; and it sold itself to the Zionist billionaires months ago. Just like the rest of them. The Republiscam Party is an irredeemable Trojan Horse crafted by the Globalists to keep the dying middle class, conservatives, and Whites in general participating in the System, while the System grinds them to a powder

Posted by: Haxo Angmark at March 10, 2015 11:51 PM

Oh no, there's a bunch of thugs running around and they may kill me, I better hire my own thug to protect me, and I don't care what he costs or what he does.

OK, break times over, I gotta go clean some 870's.

Posted by: ghostsniper at March 11, 2015 8:48 AM

Friends, we're way past the point of no return. On the slope to ruin as a nation. the only question will be whether we keep sliding slowly into third-world commie/socialist status or whether we hit the flash point, everything globally goes up in flames and the next two, three generations rebuilds.
I like the fast way, get rid of all kindsa plague and pestilence, headhunter Muslims, obstreperous Black Negro Afro-American Exuberent People of Color, disease-bearing queers, the majority will once again rule. A society rebuilding and running at a lean mean speed has no time for drones, deadbeats, non-productive leeches, dithering leaders that can't find their ass with both hands tied behind their backs.

There. Vitriol spent. Comic relief from my uncle Letsgo, King of the Bantam Chickens Lozko. He always said when a hen stopped laying all she was good for was the stew pot. There is no such thing as Chicken Welfare.

Posted by: chasmatic at March 11, 2015 9:54 AM