July 7, 2015

"The greatest national shame of the post-9/11 wars."


"Previous generations of combat vets did not have a federal government propping up the "caring" professions trying to convince every vet that s/he is a victim rather than warrior conqueror. Previous administrations did not tell vets that they were mentally damaged from their service, suspect of conduct and classified as actual threats to the domestic US as potential domestic terrorists.

"My father in law saw heavy, heavy combat against the Japanese in WW2, having stepped onto gun-swept beaches eight (count 'em, 8!) times and fighting through the subsequent campaigns, including the lengthy Philippines campaign. He had buddies die in his arms and was attacked more than once by enemy aircraft (an experience not one present-day soldier or Marine has endured).

"Did he come down with PTSD? You bet your sweet ass he did. After I married his daughter and we visited, I would be awakened almost every night by his nightmare moans. That was 40 years later, and I heard them for years afterward, too.

"And what did Col. S. do the next morning? He got up early, ate breakfast, showered, got dressed and went to work to support his family. Every day for 50-plus years. He joined the Lions Club and more, went to church and served on the planning commission of his large-city home town.

"He did, dinosaur that he was what REAL MEN DO, and never regretted what he endured. It was, as he told me, "what we had to do, and when we had done it, we came home and got on with life."

"What he and his hero-comrades did not do was come home to a government and a society that treated them like ticking time bombs, as objects of pity and, frankly, scorn, as permanent wards of the state, or as mentally delicate infants whose sanity could be shattered by a string of firecrackers on the 4th of July.`

"They were, and their country was, in a word, made of tougher and sterner stuff than we are today.

"Reader, are you offended by my words? Well screw you. I am a retired Army combat officer. My son fought in Iraq in the Marine Corps as an AAV crewman.

"In battle, our men and women fighters are as tough as any generation ever had. But we ruin them when we bring them home. And I think it is on purpose. That is the greatest national shame of the post-9/11 wars."

Posted by: plus.google.com/104841162830331053592 in The Top 40: After careful consideration, I can only conclude that these signs are pathetic, self-defeating crap.

Posted by gerardvanderleun at July 7, 2015 9:00 AM
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After VietNam, I wondered about similar ideas. I remembered my Uncle who had been in the 101st airborn in the battle of the bulge. He came home with a metal plate in his head, but there were no records, so no silver star or purple heart. He saw and did terrible things which I only heard about from my father. Unc never talked about it.
As the author states--he came home and got on with life. Now all the vets seem to be invalids in mind more than body.

Posted by: mary defries at July 7, 2015 11:09 AM

I think most veterans are not invalids, neither in mind nor body.

The cohort of men who actually served in country in Vietnam is healthier, better-educated, and more prosperous than their contemporaries who did not so serve.

Posted by: Punditarian at July 7, 2015 12:36 PM

Warriors frighten and remind leftists that they are emasculated and weak. The make the weak hold their manhoods cheap, and that causes a lot of resentment and bitterness.

So there's a systematic effort to tear these men down, to make these heroes weak, coddled, pathetic, wretched, and dependent. Because the left knows if you've been a warrior in a war... you know you can rely only on you and the man next to you. And that's anathema to the left. They need you depending on the government for everything, not yourself.

So the full court press is on immediately to cut the nuts off these men and get them on the plantation as soon as possible. And well-meaning, sympathetic people go along because of the love and respect for these soldiers.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 7, 2015 12:50 PM

Around here, east central Idaho, I see all sorts of "men" (actually very effeminate boys) wearing beards so as to look like men. My wife says these creatures hold their hands and arms like women and gesture like women.

I served during the Vietnam disaster and learned what a rotten government we truly have. A friend of mine during HS got into some minor trouble and the judge gave him the ultimatum, "... join the Army or Marine Corps or go to jail for six months". He joined the Corps and was killed in an ambush a year later.

Posted by: Terry at July 7, 2015 1:07 PM

Rough men stand ready...

No 'finer clay' than that.

Posted by: cond0011 at July 7, 2015 5:04 PM

Could not have said it better myself.

Posted by: Donald Sensing at July 7, 2015 5:12 PM

Amen, brother.

Posted by: el baboso at July 8, 2015 6:54 AM

There has been no war war since that of independence where the primary purpose was not that of the looting the American people.

We all remember the Spanish attack in the 1890's , the Germans murdering American millions, The Korean bombers flying over New York, The Vietnamese attacks in California, Papa Bush's reprisals for the vicious attack on the US for the Panamanian aggression, and let's not forget the righteous response of the Regan Regime for the existential threat posed by the military superpower Grenada. But, But, But we did have the carefully cultivated destruction of the obsolete ships in Pearl Harbor

And we haven yet started on Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, Yemen,

Posted by: Bill Jones at July 8, 2015 8:01 PM

@Bill Jones:

Your view of history is badly 'skrewd':

The stronger side is not always wrong. The Underdog is not always right.

I strongly suggest you read history and not lick the gravy off the fingers of your socialist masters as hating your country (and the freedoms it gives you) is not conducive for its survival, thus your survival.

"Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter."

~Isaiah 5:20

Posted by: cond0011 at July 9, 2015 3:22 AM