August 25, 2016

The Fact Folks vs "Feelings, nothing more than feelings...."


"For the age 60 and above, the early Boomers and their parents, facts remain very important and feelings, while important, are thought not very reliable. Emotions are to be controlled and overcome, they are not to be a guide.

"For post-Boomers, especially those born after 1980 or so, feelings are predominant, and the younger of that group the more important feelings are. This is also the cohort that was raised in the thick of the self-esteem movement, being told they are special (you know, just like everyone else). They received praise and rewards just for showing up (participation trophies, anyone?).

"They are very, very heavily into social signaling by where they live and where they vacation and by what their children do. They absolutely dominate their kids, who typically have little choice in what activities they will do and when.

"The younger sets of this group, born after the early 90s, have also learned (having been actually taught) that the cult of victimhood is the most important status of all. They are on high alert for reasons to be offended and when they are, it is for slights, real or imagined, that mystify the 60 cohort.

"Victimhood demands recompense so there is no hope of forgiveness unless the offender crawls on his belly like a cold reptile to beg for it. But forgiveness is never unconditional. The hatchet may be buried, but the handle protrudes skyward so it can be easy to recover.

"It is very much and honor-shame dynamic where all interactions are zero-sum. Where they are on the totem pole if always of concern and they are acutely aware of who is above or below. And woe betide those whom they think are below.

"I think of it as the 'Veruca Salt' generation. They are demand oriented. Their magical thinking is that merely because they want something, it should be granted. They react strongly negatively to being asked for facts and logic to support their contention because in their minds, 'I feel very strongly about this so why are you asking for facts?' "

A Comment by Sensing in "For most people, wanting to know the cold truth about the world is way, way down the list.”

Posted by gerardvanderleun at August 25, 2016 8:44 AM
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And now the US military is trying to figure out how to deal with the newly-adult who join and who seem to think that no one has the right to tell them what to do.
Across the services, leaders certainly are scrambling to adapt to the millennial mindset, even as the generation is taking over.

The Army is looking to expand the role of drill sergeants and insert them back into Advanced Individual Training. This means new soldiers will have more time with tough-talking soldiers, beyond basic. Why?

β€œThe problem that we do have is that right now the generation we have coming in is not as disciplined as we would like them to be," said Command Sgt. Maj. Michael Gragg, the senior enlisted soldier for the Center for Initial Military Training, earlier this year. "So we have to provide them with discipline over a longer period of time.”

See "The millennials have taken over: A primer for the military's generational shift"

Posted by: Donald Sensing at August 25, 2016 2:35 PM

This emphasis on emotions and deliberate rejection of cortex control action, is a move to deliberate schizophrenic thought and behavior.
Call it self_induced insanity, or, habituated stupidity.

Posted by: howard nelson at August 25, 2016 2:57 PM

Call it self_induced insanity, or, habituated stupidity.
okay - got it. Just kidding, I do that too sometimes!

Really interesting note Gerard. Having reared five of my own (first child born in 1986, last one in 2000), I can definitely see the progression of "feeling" demanding an upper hand. I have actually seen a 16 year old burst in to tears over what I considered a very mild verbal rebuke. "Stop bullying me" seems to be the catch phrase of that generation. Pretty bizarre shift!

Posted by: DeAnn at August 25, 2016 4:01 PM

My two are 12, girl and boy at 10. They are in Catholic school as I would work till the day I died to keep them out of public school. They both train Juijitsu and we make regular trips to the gun range to shoot .22s. They WILL NOT be turned into left wing pinko marxist commie trash. I see enough of that in the youth at work.

So where is Ghostsniper?

Posted by: Snakepit Kansas at August 25, 2016 7:50 PM

If the institution receives ANY money at all from the gov't your charges are under their (gov't) control, mentally and physically.

You will not see the brainwashing until it is too late to prevent it's devastating lifelong debilitation.

The only way to deal with gov't force is to find it then stay away from it.

"Living with Quisling"
gs, 2099

Posted by: ghostsniper at August 26, 2016 4:17 AM

Dang...I thought that was a statue of Obama.

Burying his head in the sand while waiting on Reggie.

Posted by: Jack at August 26, 2016 12:31 PM

Do not send your kids to a University. Not if you want them to remain sensible. If you take the trouble to homeschool or private school them and then send them to college, you have a 50/50 chance of losing them. I wouldn't take that gamble. If they want to be a doctor or engineer, find something unrelated to a state school. There are avenues for higher education that don't have to include leftists. However, you have to search for them.

Posted by: Leslie at August 26, 2016 1:09 PM

A few years ago, I had to take quick corrective action on a younger but relatively experienced employee (born early '80s, I'd guess) who was really about to jump on it with golf shoes if I hadn't noticed he was screwing up. He was shocked that I spoke sharply to him, and I really thought he was going to burst into tears. I suppose it was the first time anyone had ever told him he was something other than wonderful and special, and he didn't know how to handle it. He learned quickly.

@Leslie, the hard sciences, engineering, and accounting are relatively unpolluted by leftists (climate "science" is one of the exceptions), as "feelings" are irrelevant to results. So if the kids choose one of these fields, even a state school should be reasonably safe.

Posted by: waltj at August 27, 2016 3:06 PM