The crew gathered about Paula Zahn is, with James Carville taking point, announcing that George W. Bush has won the Presidency.
Carville: Look, there's no point in spin at this hour. I've talked to the Kerry people on the ground in Ohio and they'd like to give me good news, but they've got no good news to give.
2:30 AM Eastern Time, November 3: Kerry, lacking manliness in defeat, sends his boy out to say that while "Hope" is no longer on the way, lawyers are. Sigh. The Democratic Race ends as it began, classless and leaderless.
Posted by Vanderleun at November 2, 2004 9:58 PM | TrackBackIf it holds - Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition.
Posted by: Matt at November 2, 2004 10:27 PMHe's an odd guy, but he's a pro. Good for him.
Posted by: Grumpy Old Man at November 2, 2004 10:35 PMWe have the names. Now its time to kick ass.
Posted by: FH at November 2, 2004 10:44 PMBush won! I hear they'll be serving some crow at the DNC with a bit of humble pie for dessert. :-) God is good.
Posted by: Mojave Mark at November 3, 2004 12:38 AMI wonder how my former hometown, Troy, Ohio, turned out. The Swedish tabloids are saying: "Another election scandal."
All the Best,
Martin Lindeskog - American in spirit.
Gothenburg, Sweden (a.k.a the socialist "paradise").
bizzare how kerry supporters mostly listened to each other as amplified and fed back to them by national media.
drive up the west side hiway in manhattan to see it plastered w vote/die posters. havent met a fellow bush supporter in oakland ca. hmm, havent even met a non bush hater around here. coastal chauvism w unadulterated disdain/dislike of people w religious fath.
have my differences w bush domestic policy etc. but the iraqi's we're training and arming are much more likely to stay the course and not go to the dark side if they know bush is still leader of the pack.
Posted by: len at November 3, 2004 3:09 AMbizzare how kerry supporters mostly listened to each other as amplified and fed back to them by national media.
drive up the west side hiway in manhattan to see it plastered w vote/die posters. havent met a fellow bush supporter in oakland ca. hmm, havent even met a non bush hater around here. coastal chauvism w unadulterated disdain/dislike of people w religious fath.
have my differences w bush domestic policy etc. but the iraqi's we're training and arming are much more likely to stay the course and not go to the dark side if they know bush is still leader of the pack.
Posted by: len at November 3, 2004 3:09 AMbizzare how kerry supporters mostly listened to each other as amplified and fed back to them by national media.
drive up the west side hiway in manhattan to see it plastered w vote/die posters. havent met a fellow bush supporter in oakland ca. hmm, havent even met a non bush hater around here. coastal chauvism w unadulterated disdain/dislike of people w religious fath.
have my differences w bush domestic policy etc. but the iraqi's we're training and arming are much more likely to stay the course and not go to the dark side if they know bush is still leader of the pack.
Posted by: len at November 3, 2004 3:09 AMWell done America on being "offically stupid". Voting for a monkey in a suit once was bad but twice!!!!! Still, you can have the world as I think most of the worlds population is going to the moon to escape death and destruction.
Posted by: Matt Bing at November 3, 2004 4:20 AM"Let us have wine and women, mirth and laughter, Sermons and soda water the day after" (Lord Byron). But on the day after, we do have as much work cut our for us in the next four years as we had during the campaign. Perhaps most of all, we must devise strategies for counteracting and reforming the mainstream media, who demonstrated how despicably corrupt and one-sided they are in pitching "their" candidate.
Posted by: Rick Darby at November 3, 2004 5:10 AMNo class. No realism. No sportsmanship.
Not a good way to unite the nation or preserve your dignity.
Not a good way for the MSM to rebuild any of their shattered credibility.
Posted by: Grumpy Old Man at November 3, 2004 6:24 AMOne measure of a man is how he acts in defeat. Another measure is how he preens and brays about his real and imagined accomplishments. The contrast between the two party leaders is stark and valuable.
Carville had it exactly right, and he is to be commended for his insight.
The Kerry/Edwards ticket should gather as much of their self-respect as possible, make a generous concession statement, and work toward uniting the country. But they won't.
Congratulations to Bush/Cheney and the entire team. Get back to work.
Dan Patterson
Winston-Salem, NC
Well done America on being 'offically stupid'. Voting for a monkey in a suit once was bad but twice!!!!! Still, you can have the world as I think most of the worlds population is going to the moon to escape death and destruction.
Matt, this is your wake-up call. The election is over, we have a war to win, and there's a lot of work to do. It's time to grow up now.
Posted by: Harry at November 3, 2004 7:54 AMFor those of you who think that all Bush is is a monkey in a suit, all I can say is that description is not vey nuanced. In fact it is very simplistic and showes you to be a spoon fed moron.
But I would like to point out that as of hearing that Kerry conceided the race, I will admit that John F. Kerry has a lot more class than Al Gore.
I hope that the left can start to listen to the right and see that our views really are based on logic and not Rovian mind control beams. In fact they might find that we will agree with them on many things.
Posted by: jungus at November 3, 2004 8:37 AMGOD willing the animals who hate freedom and liberty will be eliminated from the gene pool forever". The Author of this statment is truly an ASS and a SICKO! No matter what you or this beast states, this comment refers to fellow Americans who love this country but offer a different opinion!!!
Comments such as this will CERTAINLY bring the country closer-yeah right. Let's be real. THE BEST PRESIDENTS IN MODERN TIMES WERE KENNEDY, JOHNSON, and NIXON. This dude (YOUR BUSH) is arrogant uninformed and not the sharpest knife in the drawer and DOES not have one damn thoughtful concern for anyone other than his "ELITE" supporters, oil tycoons, and unscrupulous corporate gangsters/criminals. SHAME ON ALL OF US FOR FOLLOWING THIS PIED PIPER. If you ain't got it now, in four years you WILL have less!
Posted by: Jack J. at November 3, 2004 9:33 AMI know you are not on the Well anymore, but the problems all the lefties are having over there is a sight to see. Truly Special. They are ready to drink the kool-aid for good this time, along with the poster above me.
Posted by: TK at November 3, 2004 10:26 AMJack J.,
The three best presidents in modern times? Kennedy's bootleg, booze-king father bought him into office. Once there he was a philanderer and single handedly almost started a nuclear exchange with the Soviet Union in the Bay of Pigs incident. He also, like your erstwhile hero Kerry would have done, turned tail and left the Cuban guerilla's for slaughter by Castro. He also got us into that war you passionite hypocrites loved so well; Vietnam. LBJ was a magnificent political stratigist. You know, the kind that can sell rotten watermellons to liberals. He was as close to a dictator as this country will hopefully ever see. Nixon? By all liberal accounts, the worst president in history. Nixon was actually guilty of the atrocities you claim Mr. Bush is guilty of.
As for sharpest knife in the drawer I can tell from your sub 100 IQ that you aren't a Harvard MBA. Of all four candidates this election the poorest of the four is George W. Bush. He also gave more to charity, thousands more, than his opponent. "Elite" supporters? Far fewer than the DNC; millions fewer. What unscrupulous corporate gangsters/criminals? Can you name them? As for following the pied piper; I will indeed. He got all the rats out of Hamlin. Meanwhile you go ahead and follow the pie eyed piper on the left and see where it gets you.
Posted by: Ron at November 3, 2004 7:09 PMBut I would like to point out that as of hearing that Kerry conceided the race, I will admit that John F. Kerry has a lot more class than Al Gore.
Obviously two very different situations, and I understand both of them with the exception that Gore should not have conceeded in the first place. I think Kerry's concession was as graceful as possible... we were expecting recounts or that mayhem would engulf the elections to some extent, I think, and not having any of it was so much better thanks to a wider gap and a considerate Kerry.
Posted by: Tony at November 4, 2004 1:09 AMP.S. I mean that Gore should not have conceeded the first time before taking it back, not that he should have refused to conceed at all, ever.
Posted by: Tony at November 4, 2004 1:14 AMTHE TWO HYPOCRITICAL COWARDS: BUSH & CHENEY
Both Bush and Cheney supported the Vietnam War but both did everything they could to avoid combat. Everyone knows that the National Guard during the Vietnam War was a haven for those who did not want to get killed in a foolish war. Bush joined the National Guard to avoid combat, not to serve his country. Anyone who believes that Bush joined the National Guard to serve his country is a dam fool.
Cheney used several deferments to avoid combat.
These two individuals were too cowardly to serve in a war that they supported but in Iraq they were very eager to sacrifice the lives of others. They are hypocrites when they praise our combat troops. If they really believed this, they would have been in combat during the Vietnam War.
Because Bush, Cheney, and their families had nothing to fear about going to war in Iraq, they rushed into this war without exploring all alternatives. They were eager to correct the mistake of the father. War should be the last alternative, not the first.
Although an all volunteer military has many advantages, it has one major flaw. Because the powerful have nothing to fear about their sons or daughters being killed, they are much more willing to go to war without adequate reasons and without exploring alternatives. If we had a draft during the past few years, the young would have filled the streets with protest and along with their parents they would have sent Bush back to Texas on November 2 for a permanent vacation.
If the mean spirted Republicans had this issue (cowards on the Democratic ticket) they certainly would have exploited it. They even tried to destroy the reputation of a war hero.
If the Democrats had focused on the character of Bush and Cheney ("cowards and hypocrites") they would have won the election on November 2. When are the Democrats going to learn -- they have to as mean spirited as the Republican right if they hope to win elections. They tried to run a positive campaign in July and August and paid dearly for this mistakes. They went on the attack much too late.
The media gives much attention to the "negative campaigns" but fails to point out that it is the Republican right that forced the Democrats to use this concept.
Posted by: BKD at November 5, 2004 9:02 AMAh, the old Briarpatch theory of the media.
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