“Do we want revenge or justice? Do we want… Do we want…” Jordan – we want to be left alone. Until then, we’ve got a problem.
BrucephNovember 2, 2021, 7:59 PM
If it is too late, and we’ll know soon enough if that’s true, then there is a course to take. ‘In my end is my beginning’, so sayeth Mary, Queen of Scots. We live in a time of of clarity, of discernment, and a time of decision. Things in a certain way couldn’t be simpler. So which will you (I, we) be? Men of virtue? Or men who lack virtue?
My mother would play this song on a 78 rpm record. I memorized the chorus when I was but 6 years old and have never forgotten it. I can sing it to this day.
SisuNovember 2, 2021, 8:33 PM
Language fails us always: speaker and listener; writer and reader.
Jordan makes a passionate plea. Perhaps his most important spoken word is “trust”.
“Trust” is what has been eroded over too many decades (centuries). Tyrannical governments become prescriptive in the law, rules and regulations they promulgate, and courts rely on established precedent to avoid “being wrong yet again” (as if once rendered a “decision” is absolute). So many other systems of law, other than “English Law”, “Canon Law”, … but none orchestrated with the divine authority of the agnostic, Constantine (snark).
But, “trust” is multi-faceted. On an individual level, short-term, buyer remorse will always conclude: “I’ve been cheated.” Too many are impulsive, forget their emotion when committing, expect a benefit or reaction that does not manifest. Simply put too many have been subconsciously trained to assume: “I’m being cheated. That was unfair. Who best to blame ?”
Societies (tribes) need a common purpose to “trust”. Depending on the time line and the limits of the borders of their “world”, they understand “perpetuation of life” to mean for – immediate, extended family, or tribe, nation, allies, “religion” (grouping of or select denomination), or … rarely simply humanity or life.
Today, western societies (culminating now in fracturing of the “ideal” which was the United States of America) have apparently lost their individual “country” culture, commonality, religion, purpose. Melting pot, open borders, assimilation, “one world”, is only increasingly leading to individual isolation, “we/them”, “no go zones” and an increasing lack of “trust”. (And, more tyrannical law, rules, regulations, treaties … and protocols, bureaucracies, centralization, preferences, factions, …) … All in nature eventually fragments.
It’s “My Turn.”, “I Want All I’m Entitled to.” … “Consumerism.” “Free Money.” “You Can Afford It.” “Equity”. … Shortsightedness. All translate to a vicious cycle of the erosion of “trust”.
They took me. I got snookered. … I “trusted”. … No dope you decided to be “willfully stupid”, allowed yourself to be manipulated. … When the “politician” and your “rep” made a deal you committed via “group think” and “voluntary servitude” (assumed the “deal” would never be less) … which is why the majority of your “brothers and sisters”, co-workers, comrades, “family”, … have taken the “Jab”. And, if you don’t by the fourth “booster” you will be blamed for why that and future “boosters” will be necessary for others to receive.
So as Jordan implicitly asks: Are you going to “trust” in G-d’s everlasting promise or continue to focus on complying “one day at a time” ? … And, if the latter, on your death bed (inevitable) who will you blame, or will you even have time and remember to you ask forgiveness for all you left undone and salvation for your family and the unborn ?
You actually don’t have to die leaving a material estate; in fact the “stuff” you accumulate someone else has to deal with …
To follow Christ is impossibly difficult, but if you work at it, you may find it easier and more rewarding than obeying theologians and secular tyrants. Understand what it means to be “meek” and the different forms of “love”; most importantly – Agape. Try not to make the same mistakes repeatedly, and pray that you continually receive “Faith, Courage and Strength”. … And, “trust”, be disappointed, and “trust” again. Repeat.
I wanted to watch the whole thing, but had to stop halfway through. His message ultimately seems to be, “Go back to sleep, go back to sleep…” Strange words coming from a man who has spent so much of his time studying history’s greatest atrocities.
Sorry, professor Peterson. I can’t do that. It doesn’t mean I’m sitting here cowering in fear, or giving up, or even just quietly practicing and preaching hatred for my fellow man. But when Somebody tells you in his own words that he is coming for you – and that Somebody has the means to actually make you suffer – only a fool would shrug and ignore him. Yes, by all means take the filth out of your own eyes… and then take a good look around, and see clearly what is happening on your own doorstep.
Flatulent FilbertNovember 3, 2021, 6:48 AM
Julie,
I get the same way at the same point, but I finished the video. It is worth finishing. It gets much better.
The middle and the end do seem disjointed though. The middle sounded like the usual boomer peace anthem “peace for peace’s sake”. The problem is that one side of “peace” abandoned the only thing upon which true and lasting peace can be founded (God) in pursuit of Utopia which is a re-presentation of the Tower of Babel.
Without the common devotion to God and doing his will, there will be no peace between sides. There never has been, only tolerance, and tolerance only goes so far.
Casey KlahnNovember 3, 2021, 4:16 AM
I used to not like JP, but have since grown to understand his approach, and to value his intellect, and ability at communication. I understand his peacekeeper approach, and whenever there’s an opportunity to apply it, I’d say go for it.
Events change daily, if not hourly. Yesterday, I visualized the news calling VA for McQeef-if, with the dem down 9 points but nonetheless they call it for him. Since the GOPe man won, and apparently every GOPe candidate winning down-ballot all the way to dog-catcher, I am relieved. Briefly. However, I still won’t put it past the dem/soc. to pull some dirty trick today. I heard that they closed the count down, a la 11/2020, and I was thinking o shit here that goes again.
As it was, I did not vote in the WA elections yesterday. Our Sec State is a RINO, who has now been picked to sit on Biden’s mutherfuggin cabinet. That’s good, probably I’d say that her tenure as vote czarina was the lowest point in the history of WA politics. May she stay in DC and rot.
My non-vote is a protest, and I’m hoping Olympia gets the message that we, the citizens, have other methods of voting. ahem.
Laying in frozen meat. Pork is difficult to get, now (hording). Probably get chickens. Redistributing ammo. Oh, before I forget to say it, sometime. When you do get in that trench, you may be surprised at who is with you. labor unions, who’ve damn near always aligned as communists (in my book) are fed up with Covid mandates, and giving the tyrants hell in some places. Longshoremen, I guess. NYFD are pushing back against vax mandates, but not the cops in NY, unfortunately.
Still trying to figure out what the CW2 uniform will look like. This time, the rebs won’t even get pay with phony Jeff Davis dollars.
Out here.
ghostsniperNovember 3, 2021, 4:39 AM
When you do get in that trench, you may be surprised at who is with you.
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No.
I’ll make my own trench and choose who occupies it, most likely I’ll be alone.
I trust almost no one, and on a sliding scale, infinitely adjustable depending.
There was a time when a man’s principles were sacrosanct, inviolate, but that has been bred out of society. Everything now is questionable. Just last night, in an email, my best friend made me question where his head is. I hear only negative regarding Lone Wolves, but I see no other way.
ghostsniperNovember 3, 2021, 4:40 AM
My uniform looks like the background, ie., I don’t exist.
GlenfilthieNovember 3, 2021, 5:45 AM
Just so, I’m afraid GS. We are going to hang separately for the most part. Hell, in my case, there won’t be any drama of a show trial, or an execution. Just a pile of bodies in a trench. God will sort us out, and I am just peachy with facing His judgement. I hope they are too.
Casey KlahnNovember 3, 2021, 7:59 AM
Uniform. It’s easy to eliminate 99% of the shit out there, including what the army wears. If it has any cotton in it, it’s a no go (except desert or jungle warfare). Give me water fighting togs. It’s simple: see any trees? You need non-cotton clothing. See mountains? Only an idiot would wear cotton.
Did I mention? Don’t wear any fukn cotton! Camo is interesting, but the environment has it out for me more than the occasional bad man may. Bad man: part time nuisance. Environment: full time and little reprieve.
Oh, BTW. Don’t wear cotton!
DavidNovember 3, 2021, 5:18 AM
They say that I don’t care about the children because I won’t take the injection of aborted baby parts. Peterson says love is the way and I should offer up my neck to those who would kill me. No can do.
GlenfilthieNovember 3, 2021, 5:34 AM
Good grief Jordan. That sanctimonious speech just makes me shake my head.
How does a man compromise and negotiate peace with queers and freaks? Or violent, stupid negroes that hate white people? Or bat chit crazy feminists? Or the unemployable kidults out of university that spent a king’s ransom for a degree in kitten studies? What kind of peace can you have with these people?
“How does a man compromise and negotiate peace with queers and freaks? Or violent, stupid negroes that hate white people? Or bat chit crazy feminists?” He does not.
“What kind of peace can you have with these people?” The peace of the graveyard and of the Gulag.
GlenfilthieNovember 3, 2021, 6:14 AM
That is the kind of peace on offer if you choose to live with them. You deserve what you tolerate, and if they plan to use me to fill their grave yards and gulags… I will have a piece them first.
Flatulent filbertNovember 3, 2021, 6:52 AM
I often wonder how arrogant a man must be to write a self help book while in rehab.
VanderleunNovember 3, 2021, 8:54 AM
A man who needs self-help? And who may find it by writing a book?
AnonymousNovember 3, 2021, 10:31 AM
Rehab is by definition not self help, and he landed there by failing miserably at self help by trying benzodiazepines to overcome anxiety. His track record of self help is not good.
He was able to help many people before his great fall. One would think a long delay after rehab followed by a “here’s what I messed up and I hope this is helpful for you too” might be a humbler approach.
Flatulent FilbertNovember 3, 2021, 10:36 AM
That anonymous comment was mine
gwbnycNovember 3, 2021, 6:43 PM
He who smelt it dealt it, Flatch.
Gordon ScottNovember 3, 2021, 7:06 PM
Rehab?
Peterson, as a clinical psychologist, would have much better than a laymen’s knowledge of anti-depressant meds. He took, on medical advice, a higher dose of one that had worked well for him in the past. Unfortunately he had a terrible reaction that got worse when he tried to get off the med. He is still not fully recovered.
His globetrotting odyssey to find treatment that worked is available to those who choose to look up the details. He and his daughter have talked about it openly. The horrific problems this reaction caused would have sent many lesser men to suicide.
The physical reactions trouble him still, but his mind works. And that’s why he finished the second 12 Rules book He needed something to distract him from the awful physical problems.
I do. I hate first and especially the evil in my own heart.
AnonymousNovember 3, 2021, 10:34 AM
Do not let what you hate in your own heart stop you from hating what is evil elsewhere, lest evil overtake the world while timid men of false humility neglect their duty to protect, defend, and expand what is right and good in the eyes of God.
Peterson speaks from his heart, from passion, but there is little else there. His mind will not reign in his emotion. There is fear and trembling in his voice, and he wants his audience to fear and tremble with him. That is not possible. The ones who applaud his words have already laid down their weapons, even in the face of an implacable foe. Peterson has quit the fight—if he was ever in it—and expects his enemies to do likewise. He expects reason from them; he expects justice from them; he expects compassion from them. He will get none of these things.
Peterson believes that some sort of compromise, some sort of agreement—something, anything—is yet possible. But as Achilles said to Hector, “There are no pacts between lions and men.” When a man says, “We must compromise before it’s too late!”, I hear surrender, defeat, the sound of trains on their way to the Gulag.
Peterson draws God into his plea; but then, every side does that. The Nazi soldiers had belts with “Gott Mit Uns” on the buckles. He cannot see that the Christian God is a God of War. But don’t believe me. Here are His words:
“Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. And a person’s enemies will be those of his own household.”—Matthew 10:34-36
And of course:
“A time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace.”—Ecclesiastes 3:8
Peterson is far behind the times in which he lives. He refuses to see that today. But he will tomorrow.
GlenfilthieNovember 3, 2021, 6:19 AM
God will have no hand in what is coming. And there is nothing unholy or evil about being left alone.
Flatulent FilbertNovember 3, 2021, 10:40 AM
In his digestion of the Russian author, Peterson missed the point that Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn Made, that if he had it to do again, and had the proper weapons, he and others would have shot the rotten bastards when they started arresting people, rather than expect cooperation and understanding.
JackNovember 3, 2021, 12:32 PM
And when he said that AS prescribed the ONLY remedy for the problem: They have to be systematically located and eliminated on the spot.
I know that remark sounds Bolshevik but men who love peace and liberty sometimes just have to hunt up a stick and kill the snake that desires to kill them. Eve couldn’t do it…men have to.
Most will not—cannot—understand that violence is part of the political, cultural and economic equation just as much as debate, legislation and compromise are. Violence is a tool. Like any tool, it performs a certain task but is unsuited to others. A wise man knows when to use this tool. Pray that he uses it well and uses it completely.
Anthony GaudioNovember 3, 2021, 6:08 AM
It is postings like this that makes your site one of the best on the web. I look forward every morning to my visit. You entertain and enlighten. Thank you.
Didn’t watch the JP thing. I’ve seen/heard him speak maybe 3 times but never to completion. As I’ve said before, it only take me about 15 seconds to form an opinion on a person character. I can see it across a crowded room.
JP wears added padding in his gloves and he doesn’t really understand, even now, what he’s up against. At heart, he’s a pacifist and there’s nothing wrong with that as long as it’s not your albatross and you see things as they are rather than what you hope. JP would like to make omelets for all without breaking any eggs.
Been a few years since I noticed this about him and he still hasn’t figured it out. Maybe he can’t. Maybe, like so many others, he has hit that intellectual wall and cannot go any further. I’ll never waste any time on him.
Doug ConstanceNovember 3, 2021, 7:06 AM
“Pacifist”? That’s an odd characterization of a person who advocates making yourself dangerous as a means of 1) forestalling assaults, and 2) overcoming them if they occur.
Perhaps your refusal to hear him out is leading you to misinterpret him.
GlenfilthieNovember 3, 2021, 8:32 AM
Hmmmmmmm. He’s a fascinating man, that’s for sure. He’s certainly not a coward, it takes guts to stand up like he did, and he held fast against those a-holes when they tried first to cancel him and then to destroy him. The man must be given credit where credit is due.
But this cold culture war is going hot. That is not our choice, it’s theirs. And contrary to mom and nanny – who started it matters. Who finishes it is crucial. Jordan’s place in the things to come is questionable.
Doug ConstanceNovember 3, 2021, 6:57 AM
I am disappointed with the negative reactions expressed in the comments, which I would summarize as “Jordan Peterson thinks I’m the problem.” After extensive listening to and reading of Dr. Peterson, I’m persuaded that his message is instead “First make sure you are not the problem.” He directs that message to anyone and everyone who will receive it, not just to you personally.
I have not sensed in Dr. Peterson’s lectures or discussions that he favors compromise of principle to craft solutions. Instead, he hammers home the need to seek and speak the truth, by all parties in a controversy, now before it’s too late.
So Peterson “hammers home the need to seek and speak the truth, by all parties in a controversy, now before it’s too late.” Is that what you expect from your enemies, the truth? Really? When have they ever had the slightest interest in truth?
And what do you mean, “…before it’s too late?” Too late for what? Are you so afraid of any conflict that you would prefer watery speeches to fighting?
AnonymousNovember 3, 2021, 10:53 AM
Yes, it took courage for Peterson to stand against Bill C16, and good for him.
The impression that I get is he’s willing to die for his cause, but I’m not convinced that he’s willing to kill for it if that’s what it comes to.
Democrats and their allies are the enemy of the American people. They have been making war upon us for generations. It’s almost too late to do something about it. Almost.
True. Except for a few exceptions, there is one party in Washington DC: the Uniparty. They see to each other’s needs, they hire each other’s relatives and they write “legislation” of thousands of pages that nobody reads but lawyers and lobbyists. These only serve the interests of the Uniparty, and the People be damned.
Interesting, riddle me this, who exactly gets to determine if I’m the problem?, your the problem or Bobby or John are the problem?
Buttttttt I understand that one’s truth is frowned on by others whom perceive theirs to be right.
Petersons made the circuit on conservative TV and radio many times. I view that observation alone to be the biggest clue, selling snake oil and trinkets to the nation. Actually paid attention after Hannity had him on, but by then I’d soured on hannity, his repeat-Omatic message has become stagnant.
I ask again, who exactly get to make those personal calls, regarding who’s right.
In a time in space where “GroupThink” is considered good policy, effective communication, I simply, fundamentally disagree.
Lastly how is the truth determined, is it by MSM, or talking heads, or by representatives elected per region The real truth is actually the essence of good men and women. The truth is what most were taught around kindergarten, truth determines how we live, honorably or dishonorably.
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El PolackoNovember 3, 2021, 7:10 AM
Peterson has always been interesting, but he looks like a beaten old man in this vid.
Terrible lighting, complete with the shirt buttoned up to the collar and a cardigan sweater combo popular with long dead Grandpas.
He hasn’t been the same since he was taken off of the world stage with his purported over use of anti-depressants.
I personally think he was poisoned for getting too popular.
Still worth listening to.
“Who is the enemy? Is it the freaks and the queers?”
Yes. And those who champion them (and alien invaders) over the normal, moral, decent American people.
The soldiers are not allowed to defend the borders of our once great nation, because the traitors who now run the government order them not to.
JackNovember 3, 2021, 12:39 PM
Yes, it is the freaks and the queers. They are the moral equivalent of cyanide to any society and nothing they put forward should be tolerated. But, ignorant, out of control, unmanageable and violent negroes should be added to those two categories….the fit well into each and they add a special type of sauce to the mix that confuses the living hell out of so many who honestly believe they are better than what they represent and display each day.
And then there are the politicians on both sides. Diversity of thought among them is fine but their demands of outright control of human life….anywhere in the world they are found…should not be tolerated.
PelayoNovember 3, 2021, 9:10 AM
I like JP. He means well. Our side has proven throughout the Obama and now Brandon administrations and the unrelenting attacks on us and Trump that we are of the mind to listen to this type of message. JP’s message would be amenable if the other side followed those words and sentiment too.
But they won’t.
Kevin in PANovember 3, 2021, 11:25 AM
I have enjoyed many of JP’s presentations/lectures. I found him about 8 or 10 years ago and was impressed with his concise use of language, his passion and his clarity. I too noticed a change in him after his absence, later revealed as rehab from anti-depressants. I also think it is important to note that he has suffered tremendous difficulties; wife with cancer, daughter with debilitating illness and then, his bout with the pronoun control freaks in Canada, followed by the drug rehab. I respect his intellect, but I believe he not reading all the info correctly (perhaps not able to access the “real info”, due to the lies that abound in the media).
Two points I would highlight from here in the comments section – 1) I think it is quite plausible he may have been poisoned due to his rapid rise in popularity, with a message that went against what the rulers wanted. 2) It does seem he may have missed the central lesson of THE GULAG ARCHIPELAGO; to slay your enemies before they slay you.
Also, I tend to agree with Doug above when he says…”his message is instead “First make sure you are not the problem.” He directs that message to anyone and everyone who will receive it, not just to you personally.” The great Francis Porreto made a similar comment in a recent article that was reposted here at AD. In a nutshell his very introspective question was, “what if I am wrong?”
It seems to me that intelligent people will usually pause and ask this question when engaging in any serious decision making, especially one that may involve life and death outcomes.
Do not let your own anger rule you. For it can ruin you.
Do not let cynicism and spite over-ride your ability to judge with reasoned compassion. Not everyone that disagrees with you is evil.
Do not be hasty to engage in blood-letting violence. For you may be wrong in your decision.
ghostsniperNovember 3, 2021, 11:46 AM
In a nutshell his very introspective question was, “what if I am wrong?”
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Very good, Kevin.
This is where precise and careful wording is the rule.
And, of course, the notion of keeping your mouth shut.
This past week or so several incidents have occurred where my initial response was to give someone both barrels and be done with it. But I fell back on my old mantra of, “I’d rather have a friend than an enemy if the effort is doable.” Then, I do as I have learned to do as I glide into “old doodhood”. I wait a day or so. The temper dies down, the fog clears, and I have a wider view. And, sometimes the other person comes around to my way of thinking. Rare, but has happened. In short, it does no good to go off on someone else without first evaluating your own contribution to the thing, and that’s where introspection is required. Some people can never clear that hurdle. I just turn my pretty head and walk away.
Kevin in PANovember 3, 2021, 6:12 PM
“I’d rather have a friend than an enemy if the effort is doable.”
A worthy mantra, Ghost.
ghostsniperNovember 3, 2021, 11:47 AM
4th line: someone
JackNovember 3, 2021, 12:41 PM
I know. Would be kinda nice to have an ‘edit’ feature. But, it ain’t my blog.
VanderleunNovember 3, 2021, 1:38 PM
You do have an edit feature. It’s me.
ghostsniperNovember 3, 2021, 1:59 PM
Thankya kindly!
VanderleunNovember 3, 2021, 4:56 PM
JP’s prayer seems to me to be the last try, the last effort to avoid the time of the guns. It’s the question and prayer that comes just before the “Say when.” moment:
gwNovember 3, 2021, 10:41 PM
Believe you’re spot on. An existential warning from a very smart man that the Beast is afoot. A warning that we’re close to some terrible historical inflection point. He has studied the evil men can do. “Sympathy for the Devil” was an apropos trailer for his message.
PelayoNovember 4, 2021, 11:31 PM
Yes.
ahemNovember 9, 2021, 7:57 AM
Exactly.
VanderleunNovember 3, 2021, 5:06 PM
Or, perhaps a more condensed way of saying it might be:
“I beseech you in the bowels of Christ think it possible you may be mistaken.”–
Oliver Cromwell, In a letter to the general assembly of the Church of Scotland. 1650.
In context: I am persuaded that divers of you, who lead the People, have laboured to build yourselves in these things; wherein you have censured others, and established yourselves “upon the Word of God.” Is it therefore infallibly agreeable to the Word of God, all that you say? I beseech you, in the bowels of Christ, think it possible you may be mistaken. Precept may be upon precept, line may be upon line, and yet the Word of the Lord may be to some a Word of Judgment; that they may fall backward and be broken, and be snared and be taken! There may be a spiritual fulness, which the World may call drunkenness; as in the second Chapter of the Acts. There may be, as well, a carnal confidence upon misunderstood and misapplied precepts, which may be called spiritual drunkenness. There may be a Covenant made with Death and Hell! I will not say yours was so. But judge if such things have a politic aim: To avoid the overflowing scourge; or, To accomplish worldly interests?
Ringo didn’t listen. Neither did the Scots. Some men only learn through hard lessons. Some don’t survive such instruction.
Peterson was responding to his own fear. He wants us to fear as well. Pearl Harbor has already been bombed. Should we then have prayed for Yamamoto and Tojo, to pray for men like these?
Good god,,,,,,,,,another blogdaddie talking shit. Why do folks let these fucking clowns tell you what you already know. Do you need validation that badly?
Most here “ aged” have lived full and informed lives. And Get it.
Instead go live, love, laugh.
Leave it to the blogdaddies to talk louder tougher. Grrrrrrrr!
Ghost, the list is short, but distinguished!. I’ll not be direct, however I’ll mention what makes them chumps, and pussies. The sites who talk shit about bad govt, “ their right” day in day out, a hand full of blog “personalities” who understand talking solutions is not in their best interests.
If problems are solved, they are out of a job stirring the political pot. They are the men and women who, talk shit all day every day, then when it was time to fuck some “bad hombres up” slithered under rocks into crevices, buried there heads in the sand.
The men and women who did not a fucking thing when an election was stolen, the men and women who assume they will lead the good guys to glorious victory. These men , these women are the cowards who make money off of good people who believe the nonsense they shovel. The “ combat training “ and other bullshit shoveled. Think it’s fair to say, these people are patriots, but for me it’s become foggy as to which side they’re really on. Often wonder if it’s a psyop!.
A few have been here, even introduced em to a couple of real fire breathers, The funny thing is, a few weeks later the Green Beret and the SEAL, both told me one of the guys is a FED!. I laughed. Hell even feds gotta have a place to go. Hell even retired law enforcement can know the truth, speak out about what’s wrong.
How do I know, well ghost you and me use to to be right in the middle of the nonsense. Its funny, I’ve had friends I met on those sites call and tell me, they wish I wasn’t being “mean” wished I quit calling the blogdaddies fucking losers.
When I asked why, the response was, “ it’s just not helpful”!. To that I responded, when these fucking clowns start talking solutions, when the blogdaddies start telling the truth, I will.
Oddly enough I’ve not heard from any of em! Kinda miss em, but I’ve grown tired of half truth and innuendo, from supposed patriots. These guys are riding their egos. Have small audiences, feel at some level their important.
If, Who What Where When Why and How, are not in a written or uttered piece, then the facts, are not present. It’s personal opinion, mostly leading the viewer to a pre positioned conclusion, the writers. This is the “ Group Think” I often refer to. It’s dangerous, it’s counter productive.
Put the facts out their let, the readers come to their own conclusions, based on facts, not fucking fiction.
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It is too late.
“Do we want revenge or justice? Do we want… Do we want…” Jordan – we want to be left alone. Until then, we’ve got a problem.
If it is too late, and we’ll know soon enough if that’s true, then there is a course to take. ‘In my end is my beginning’, so sayeth Mary, Queen of Scots. We live in a time of of clarity, of discernment, and a time of decision. Things in a certain way couldn’t be simpler. So which will you (I, we) be? Men of virtue? Or men who lack virtue?
and a little something for the spirit…https://youtu.be/_0vBvtI83x4
My mother would play this song on a 78 rpm record. I memorized the chorus when I was but 6 years old and have never forgotten it. I can sing it to this day.
Language fails us always: speaker and listener; writer and reader.
Jordan makes a passionate plea. Perhaps his most important spoken word is “trust”.
“Trust” is what has been eroded over too many decades (centuries). Tyrannical governments become prescriptive in the law, rules and regulations they promulgate, and courts rely on established precedent to avoid “being wrong yet again” (as if once rendered a “decision” is absolute). So many other systems of law, other than “English Law”, “Canon Law”, … but none orchestrated with the divine authority of the agnostic, Constantine (snark).
But, “trust” is multi-faceted. On an individual level, short-term, buyer remorse will always conclude: “I’ve been cheated.” Too many are impulsive, forget their emotion when committing, expect a benefit or reaction that does not manifest. Simply put too many have been subconsciously trained to assume: “I’m being cheated. That was unfair. Who best to blame ?”
Societies (tribes) need a common purpose to “trust”. Depending on the time line and the limits of the borders of their “world”, they understand “perpetuation of life” to mean for – immediate, extended family, or tribe, nation, allies, “religion” (grouping of or select denomination), or … rarely simply humanity or life.
Today, western societies (culminating now in fracturing of the “ideal” which was the United States of America) have apparently lost their individual “country” culture, commonality, religion, purpose. Melting pot, open borders, assimilation, “one world”, is only increasingly leading to individual isolation, “we/them”, “no go zones” and an increasing lack of “trust”. (And, more tyrannical law, rules, regulations, treaties … and protocols, bureaucracies, centralization, preferences, factions, …) … All in nature eventually fragments.
It’s “My Turn.”, “I Want All I’m Entitled to.” … “Consumerism.” “Free Money.” “You Can Afford It.” “Equity”. … Shortsightedness. All translate to a vicious cycle of the erosion of “trust”.
They took me. I got snookered. … I “trusted”. … No dope you decided to be “willfully stupid”, allowed yourself to be manipulated. … When the “politician” and your “rep” made a deal you committed via “group think” and “voluntary servitude” (assumed the “deal” would never be less) … which is why the majority of your “brothers and sisters”, co-workers, comrades, “family”, … have taken the “Jab”. And, if you don’t by the fourth “booster” you will be blamed for why that and future “boosters” will be necessary for others to receive.
So as Jordan implicitly asks: Are you going to “trust” in G-d’s everlasting promise or continue to focus on complying “one day at a time” ? … And, if the latter, on your death bed (inevitable) who will you blame, or will you even have time and remember to you ask forgiveness for all you left undone and salvation for your family and the unborn ?
You actually don’t have to die leaving a material estate; in fact the “stuff” you accumulate someone else has to deal with …
To follow Christ is impossibly difficult, but if you work at it, you may find it easier and more rewarding than obeying theologians and secular tyrants. Understand what it means to be “meek” and the different forms of “love”; most importantly – Agape. Try not to make the same mistakes repeatedly, and pray that you continually receive “Faith, Courage and Strength”. … And, “trust”, be disappointed, and “trust” again. Repeat.
I wanted to watch the whole thing, but had to stop halfway through. His message ultimately seems to be, “Go back to sleep, go back to sleep…” Strange words coming from a man who has spent so much of his time studying history’s greatest atrocities.
Sorry, professor Peterson. I can’t do that. It doesn’t mean I’m sitting here cowering in fear, or giving up, or even just quietly practicing and preaching hatred for my fellow man. But when Somebody tells you in his own words that he is coming for you – and that Somebody has the means to actually make you suffer – only a fool would shrug and ignore him. Yes, by all means take the filth out of your own eyes… and then take a good look around, and see clearly what is happening on your own doorstep.
Julie,
I get the same way at the same point, but I finished the video. It is worth finishing. It gets much better.
The middle and the end do seem disjointed though. The middle sounded like the usual boomer peace anthem “peace for peace’s sake”. The problem is that one side of “peace” abandoned the only thing upon which true and lasting peace can be founded (God) in pursuit of Utopia which is a re-presentation of the Tower of Babel.
Without the common devotion to God and doing his will, there will be no peace between sides. There never has been, only tolerance, and tolerance only goes so far.
I used to not like JP, but have since grown to understand his approach, and to value his intellect, and ability at communication. I understand his peacekeeper approach, and whenever there’s an opportunity to apply it, I’d say go for it.
Events change daily, if not hourly. Yesterday, I visualized the news calling VA for McQeef-if, with the dem down 9 points but nonetheless they call it for him. Since the GOPe man won, and apparently every GOPe candidate winning down-ballot all the way to dog-catcher, I am relieved. Briefly. However, I still won’t put it past the dem/soc. to pull some dirty trick today. I heard that they closed the count down, a la 11/2020, and I was thinking o shit here that goes again.
As it was, I did not vote in the WA elections yesterday. Our Sec State is a RINO, who has now been picked to sit on Biden’s mutherfuggin cabinet. That’s good, probably I’d say that her tenure as vote czarina was the lowest point in the history of WA politics. May she stay in DC and rot.
My non-vote is a protest, and I’m hoping Olympia gets the message that we, the citizens, have other methods of voting. ahem.
Laying in frozen meat. Pork is difficult to get, now (hording). Probably get chickens. Redistributing ammo. Oh, before I forget to say it, sometime. When you do get in that trench, you may be surprised at who is with you. labor unions, who’ve damn near always aligned as communists (in my book) are fed up with Covid mandates, and giving the tyrants hell in some places. Longshoremen, I guess. NYFD are pushing back against vax mandates, but not the cops in NY, unfortunately.
Still trying to figure out what the CW2 uniform will look like. This time, the rebs won’t even get pay with phony Jeff Davis dollars.
Out here.
When you do get in that trench, you may be surprised at who is with you.
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No.
I’ll make my own trench and choose who occupies it, most likely I’ll be alone.
I trust almost no one, and on a sliding scale, infinitely adjustable depending.
There was a time when a man’s principles were sacrosanct, inviolate, but that has been bred out of society. Everything now is questionable. Just last night, in an email, my best friend made me question where his head is. I hear only negative regarding Lone Wolves, but I see no other way.
My uniform looks like the background, ie., I don’t exist.
Just so, I’m afraid GS. We are going to hang separately for the most part. Hell, in my case, there won’t be any drama of a show trial, or an execution. Just a pile of bodies in a trench. God will sort us out, and I am just peachy with facing His judgement. I hope they are too.
Uniform. It’s easy to eliminate 99% of the shit out there, including what the army wears. If it has any cotton in it, it’s a no go (except desert or jungle warfare). Give me water fighting togs. It’s simple: see any trees? You need non-cotton clothing. See mountains? Only an idiot would wear cotton.
Did I mention? Don’t wear any fukn cotton! Camo is interesting, but the environment has it out for me more than the occasional bad man may. Bad man: part time nuisance. Environment: full time and little reprieve.
Oh, BTW. Don’t wear cotton!
They say that I don’t care about the children because I won’t take the injection of aborted baby parts. Peterson says love is the way and I should offer up my neck to those who would kill me. No can do.
Good grief Jordan. That sanctimonious speech just makes me shake my head.
How does a man compromise and negotiate peace with queers and freaks? Or violent, stupid negroes that hate white people? Or bat chit crazy feminists? Or the unemployable kidults out of university that spent a king’s ransom for a degree in kitten studies? What kind of peace can you have with these people?
“How does a man compromise and negotiate peace with queers and freaks? Or violent, stupid negroes that hate white people? Or bat chit crazy feminists?” He does not.
“What kind of peace can you have with these people?” The peace of the graveyard and of the Gulag.
That is the kind of peace on offer if you choose to live with them. You deserve what you tolerate, and if they plan to use me to fill their grave yards and gulags… I will have a piece them first.
I often wonder how arrogant a man must be to write a self help book while in rehab.
A man who needs self-help? And who may find it by writing a book?
Rehab is by definition not self help, and he landed there by failing miserably at self help by trying benzodiazepines to overcome anxiety. His track record of self help is not good.
He was able to help many people before his great fall. One would think a long delay after rehab followed by a “here’s what I messed up and I hope this is helpful for you too” might be a humbler approach.
That anonymous comment was mine
He who smelt it dealt it, Flatch.
Rehab?
Peterson, as a clinical psychologist, would have much better than a laymen’s knowledge of anti-depressant meds. He took, on medical advice, a higher dose of one that had worked well for him in the past. Unfortunately he had a terrible reaction that got worse when he tried to get off the med. He is still not fully recovered.
His globetrotting odyssey to find treatment that worked is available to those who choose to look up the details. He and his daughter have talked about it openly. The horrific problems this reaction caused would have sent many lesser men to suicide.
The physical reactions trouble him still, but his mind works. And that’s why he finished the second 12 Rules book He needed something to distract him from the awful physical problems.
It is scripturally sound to hate what is evil.
I do. I hate first and especially the evil in my own heart.
Do not let what you hate in your own heart stop you from hating what is evil elsewhere, lest evil overtake the world while timid men of false humility neglect their duty to protect, defend, and expand what is right and good in the eyes of God.
I do not. I hate both. And no one who knows me would accuse me of humility, false or otherwise. I’m working on it.
Your words have great Wisdom in them.
Thank you for that link, sir. Very helpful and right along the lines I’ve been praying on.
Peterson speaks from his heart, from passion, but there is little else there. His mind will not reign in his emotion. There is fear and trembling in his voice, and he wants his audience to fear and tremble with him. That is not possible. The ones who applaud his words have already laid down their weapons, even in the face of an implacable foe. Peterson has quit the fight—if he was ever in it—and expects his enemies to do likewise. He expects reason from them; he expects justice from them; he expects compassion from them. He will get none of these things.
Peterson believes that some sort of compromise, some sort of agreement—something, anything—is yet possible. But as Achilles said to Hector, “There are no pacts between lions and men.” When a man says, “We must compromise before it’s too late!”, I hear surrender, defeat, the sound of trains on their way to the Gulag.
Peterson draws God into his plea; but then, every side does that. The Nazi soldiers had belts with “Gott Mit Uns” on the buckles. He cannot see that the Christian God is a God of War. But don’t believe me. Here are His words:
“Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. And a person’s enemies will be those of his own household.”—Matthew 10:34-36
And of course:
“A time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace.”—Ecclesiastes 3:8
Peterson is far behind the times in which he lives. He refuses to see that today. But he will tomorrow.
God will have no hand in what is coming. And there is nothing unholy or evil about being left alone.
In his digestion of the Russian author, Peterson missed the point that Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn Made, that if he had it to do again, and had the proper weapons, he and others would have shot the rotten bastards when they started arresting people, rather than expect cooperation and understanding.
And when he said that AS prescribed the ONLY remedy for the problem: They have to be systematically located and eliminated on the spot.
I know that remark sounds Bolshevik but men who love peace and liberty sometimes just have to hunt up a stick and kill the snake that desires to kill them. Eve couldn’t do it…men have to.
Most will not—cannot—understand that violence is part of the political, cultural and economic equation just as much as debate, legislation and compromise are. Violence is a tool. Like any tool, it performs a certain task but is unsuited to others. A wise man knows when to use this tool. Pray that he uses it well and uses it completely.
It is postings like this that makes your site one of the best on the web. I look forward every morning to my visit. You entertain and enlighten. Thank you.
Some of Peterson’s followers decided to take him up on his offer of peace, compromise and mutual understanding.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IixELyhvSKc
Oops.
“There is still time, brother.”
Exactly
Didn’t watch the JP thing. I’ve seen/heard him speak maybe 3 times but never to completion. As I’ve said before, it only take me about 15 seconds to form an opinion on a person character. I can see it across a crowded room.
JP wears added padding in his gloves and he doesn’t really understand, even now, what he’s up against. At heart, he’s a pacifist and there’s nothing wrong with that as long as it’s not your albatross and you see things as they are rather than what you hope. JP would like to make omelets for all without breaking any eggs.
Been a few years since I noticed this about him and he still hasn’t figured it out. Maybe he can’t. Maybe, like so many others, he has hit that intellectual wall and cannot go any further. I’ll never waste any time on him.
“Pacifist”? That’s an odd characterization of a person who advocates making yourself dangerous as a means of 1) forestalling assaults, and 2) overcoming them if they occur.
Perhaps your refusal to hear him out is leading you to misinterpret him.
Hmmmmmmm. He’s a fascinating man, that’s for sure. He’s certainly not a coward, it takes guts to stand up like he did, and he held fast against those a-holes when they tried first to cancel him and then to destroy him. The man must be given credit where credit is due.
But this cold culture war is going hot. That is not our choice, it’s theirs. And contrary to mom and nanny – who started it matters. Who finishes it is crucial. Jordan’s place in the things to come is questionable.
I am disappointed with the negative reactions expressed in the comments, which I would summarize as “Jordan Peterson thinks I’m the problem.” After extensive listening to and reading of Dr. Peterson, I’m persuaded that his message is instead “First make sure you are not the problem.” He directs that message to anyone and everyone who will receive it, not just to you personally.
I have not sensed in Dr. Peterson’s lectures or discussions that he favors compromise of principle to craft solutions. Instead, he hammers home the need to seek and speak the truth, by all parties in a controversy, now before it’s too late.
So Peterson “hammers home the need to seek and speak the truth, by all parties in a controversy, now before it’s too late.” Is that what you expect from your enemies, the truth? Really? When have they ever had the slightest interest in truth?
And what do you mean, “…before it’s too late?” Too late for what? Are you so afraid of any conflict that you would prefer watery speeches to fighting?
Yes, it took courage for Peterson to stand against Bill C16, and good for him.
The impression that I get is he’s willing to die for his cause, but I’m not convinced that he’s willing to kill for it if that’s what it comes to.
Pitch perfect.
You want the truth? Do you really want the truth?
Democrats and their allies are the enemy of the American people. They have been making war upon us for generations. It’s almost too late to do something about it. Almost.
Democrats and their allies are the enemy of the American people. They have been making war upon us for generations.
Yes, and the Dems allies are called Republicans.
True. Except for a few exceptions, there is one party in Washington DC: the Uniparty. They see to each other’s needs, they hire each other’s relatives and they write “legislation” of thousands of pages that nobody reads but lawyers and lobbyists. These only serve the interests of the Uniparty, and the People be damned.
Interesting, riddle me this, who exactly gets to determine if I’m the problem?, your the problem or Bobby or John are the problem?
Buttttttt I understand that one’s truth is frowned on by others whom perceive theirs to be right.
Petersons made the circuit on conservative TV and radio many times. I view that observation alone to be the biggest clue, selling snake oil and trinkets to the nation. Actually paid attention after Hannity had him on, but by then I’d soured on hannity, his repeat-Omatic message has become stagnant.
I ask again, who exactly get to make those personal calls, regarding who’s right.
In a time in space where “GroupThink” is considered good policy, effective communication, I simply, fundamentally disagree.
Lastly how is the truth determined, is it by MSM, or talking heads, or by representatives elected per region The real truth is actually the essence of good men and women. The truth is what most were taught around kindergarten, truth determines how we live, honorably or dishonorably.
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Peterson has always been interesting, but he looks like a beaten old man in this vid.
Terrible lighting, complete with the shirt buttoned up to the collar and a cardigan sweater combo popular with long dead Grandpas.
He hasn’t been the same since he was taken off of the world stage with his purported over use of anti-depressants.
I personally think he was poisoned for getting too popular.
Still worth listening to.
“Who is the enemy? Is it the freaks and the queers?”
Yes. And those who champion them (and alien invaders) over the normal, moral, decent American people.
The soldiers are not allowed to defend the borders of our once great nation, because the traitors who now run the government order them not to.
Yes, it is the freaks and the queers. They are the moral equivalent of cyanide to any society and nothing they put forward should be tolerated. But, ignorant, out of control, unmanageable and violent negroes should be added to those two categories….the fit well into each and they add a special type of sauce to the mix that confuses the living hell out of so many who honestly believe they are better than what they represent and display each day.
And then there are the politicians on both sides. Diversity of thought among them is fine but their demands of outright control of human life….anywhere in the world they are found…should not be tolerated.
I like JP. He means well. Our side has proven throughout the Obama and now Brandon administrations and the unrelenting attacks on us and Trump that we are of the mind to listen to this type of message. JP’s message would be amenable if the other side followed those words and sentiment too.
But they won’t.
I have enjoyed many of JP’s presentations/lectures. I found him about 8 or 10 years ago and was impressed with his concise use of language, his passion and his clarity. I too noticed a change in him after his absence, later revealed as rehab from anti-depressants. I also think it is important to note that he has suffered tremendous difficulties; wife with cancer, daughter with debilitating illness and then, his bout with the pronoun control freaks in Canada, followed by the drug rehab. I respect his intellect, but I believe he not reading all the info correctly (perhaps not able to access the “real info”, due to the lies that abound in the media).
Two points I would highlight from here in the comments section – 1) I think it is quite plausible he may have been poisoned due to his rapid rise in popularity, with a message that went against what the rulers wanted. 2) It does seem he may have missed the central lesson of THE GULAG ARCHIPELAGO; to slay your enemies before they slay you.
Also, I tend to agree with Doug above when he says…”his message is instead “First make sure you are not the problem.” He directs that message to anyone and everyone who will receive it, not just to you personally.” The great Francis Porreto made a similar comment in a recent article that was reposted here at AD. In a nutshell his very introspective question was, “what if I am wrong?”
It seems to me that intelligent people will usually pause and ask this question when engaging in any serious decision making, especially one that may involve life and death outcomes.
Do not let your own anger rule you. For it can ruin you.
Do not let cynicism and spite over-ride your ability to judge with reasoned compassion. Not everyone that disagrees with you is evil.
Do not be hasty to engage in blood-letting violence. For you may be wrong in your decision.
In a nutshell his very introspective question was, “what if I am wrong?”
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Very good, Kevin.
This is where precise and careful wording is the rule.
And, of course, the notion of keeping your mouth shut.
This past week or so several incidents have occurred where my initial response was to give someone both barrels and be done with it. But I fell back on my old mantra of, “I’d rather have a friend than an enemy if the effort is doable.” Then, I do as I have learned to do as I glide into “old doodhood”. I wait a day or so. The temper dies down, the fog clears, and I have a wider view. And, sometimes the other person comes around to my way of thinking. Rare, but has happened. In short, it does no good to go off on someone else without first evaluating your own contribution to the thing, and that’s where introspection is required. Some people can never clear that hurdle. I just turn my pretty head and walk away.
“I’d rather have a friend than an enemy if the effort is doable.”
A worthy mantra, Ghost.
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I know. Would be kinda nice to have an ‘edit’ feature. But, it ain’t my blog.
You do have an edit feature. It’s me.
Thankya kindly!
JP’s prayer seems to me to be the last try, the last effort to avoid the time of the guns. It’s the question and prayer that comes just before the “Say when.” moment:
Believe you’re spot on. An existential warning from a very smart man that the Beast is afoot. A warning that we’re close to some terrible historical inflection point. He has studied the evil men can do. “Sympathy for the Devil” was an apropos trailer for his message.
Yes.
Exactly.
Or, perhaps a more condensed way of saying it might be:
“I beseech you in the bowels of Christ think it possible you may be mistaken.”–
Oliver Cromwell, In a letter to the general assembly of the Church of Scotland. 1650.
In context: I am persuaded that divers of you, who lead the People, have laboured to build yourselves in these things; wherein you have censured others, and established yourselves “upon the Word of God.” Is it therefore infallibly agreeable to the Word of God, all that you say? I beseech you, in the bowels of Christ, think it possible you may be mistaken. Precept may be upon precept, line may be upon line, and yet the Word of the Lord may be to some a Word of Judgment; that they may fall backward and be broken, and be snared and be taken! There may be a spiritual fulness, which the World may call drunkenness; as in the second Chapter of the Acts. There may be, as well, a carnal confidence upon misunderstood and misapplied precepts, which may be called spiritual drunkenness. There may be a Covenant made with Death and Hell! I will not say yours was so. But judge if such things have a politic aim: To avoid the overflowing scourge; or, To accomplish worldly interests?
Ringo didn’t listen. Neither did the Scots. Some men only learn through hard lessons. Some don’t survive such instruction.
Peterson was responding to his own fear. He wants us to fear as well. Pearl Harbor has already been bombed. Should we then have prayed for Yamamoto and Tojo, to pray for men like these?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cufG2Dlxvk
Rather than pray for compromise and understanding, pray for victory. David did.
“We will sing joyously over your victory,
And in the name of our God we will set up our banners.”—Psalm 20:5
Good god,,,,,,,,,another blogdaddie talking shit. Why do folks let these fucking clowns tell you what you already know. Do you need validation that badly?
Most here “ aged” have lived full and informed lives. And Get it.
Instead go live, love, laugh.
Leave it to the blogdaddies to talk louder tougher. Grrrrrrrr!
Love
Dirk
Who?
What?
You mentioned “blog daddy”. Who is it?
Ghost, the list is short, but distinguished!. I’ll not be direct, however I’ll mention what makes them chumps, and pussies. The sites who talk shit about bad govt, “ their right” day in day out, a hand full of blog “personalities” who understand talking solutions is not in their best interests.
If problems are solved, they are out of a job stirring the political pot. They are the men and women who, talk shit all day every day, then when it was time to fuck some “bad hombres up” slithered under rocks into crevices, buried there heads in the sand.
The men and women who did not a fucking thing when an election was stolen, the men and women who assume they will lead the good guys to glorious victory. These men , these women are the cowards who make money off of good people who believe the nonsense they shovel. The “ combat training “ and other bullshit shoveled. Think it’s fair to say, these people are patriots, but for me it’s become foggy as to which side they’re really on. Often wonder if it’s a psyop!.
A few have been here, even introduced em to a couple of real fire breathers, The funny thing is, a few weeks later the Green Beret and the SEAL, both told me one of the guys is a FED!. I laughed. Hell even feds gotta have a place to go. Hell even retired law enforcement can know the truth, speak out about what’s wrong.
How do I know, well ghost you and me use to to be right in the middle of the nonsense. Its funny, I’ve had friends I met on those sites call and tell me, they wish I wasn’t being “mean” wished I quit calling the blogdaddies fucking losers.
When I asked why, the response was, “ it’s just not helpful”!. To that I responded, when these fucking clowns start talking solutions, when the blogdaddies start telling the truth, I will.
Oddly enough I’ve not heard from any of em! Kinda miss em, but I’ve grown tired of half truth and innuendo, from supposed patriots. These guys are riding their egos. Have small audiences, feel at some level their important.
If, Who What Where When Why and How, are not in a written or uttered piece, then the facts, are not present. It’s personal opinion, mostly leading the viewer to a pre positioned conclusion, the writers. This is the “ Group Think” I often refer to. It’s dangerous, it’s counter productive.
Put the facts out their let, the readers come to their own conclusions, based on facts, not fucking fiction.
Dirk Williams
Klamath Falls
Oregon