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It’s not about health. It’s about compliance.

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  • Kevin in PA June 30, 2020, 11:26 AM

    Only and N-95 or P-100 mask is effective against a virus. These silly surgical masks or cloth bandanas do nothing to protect the wearer. In fact, the only thing that the cloth masks do is protect other people from your spittle droplets. Moreover, healthy people should not wear a mask, as it is not healthy to breathe in your own effluent.

    Dr. Ron Paul also said as much in a recent article. The human defense system has a tremendous ability to fight off disease. Wearing a mask limits the bodies function to do just that.

  • John Vlet June 30, 2020, 11:34 AM

    Only and N-95 or P-100 mask is effective against a virus.

    Spot on Kevin, and I’ll add that the N-95 and P-100 both, to be effective for the individual wearing one, need professional fitting in order to function properly as designed and marketed.

    I refuse to wear a mask.

  • Fletcher Christian June 30, 2020, 11:38 AM

    Precisely. Masks in general don’t protect you. They do, however, protect others FROM you. And given that people can be infected and shedding virus for a week or more before symptoms start.

    But perhaps you don’t care about others?

  • Gordon Scott June 30, 2020, 11:54 AM

    With our litigious country, the seller would be foolish not to include such a warning on the box.

    It may turn out that masks are a bad idea. Truly, no one knows, because no one has done a proper double blind study. Go ahead and refuse to wear one. It will not worry me. It may get you barred from some places, but come on, what fun would it be if you couldn’t make a scene, and give a nice dose of stress to some employee just trying to get through the day?

  • Vanderleun June 30, 2020, 12:03 PM

    Nailed the German-owned and operated Trader Joes’ wage slave just the other day.

  • jwm June 30, 2020, 12:26 PM

    It’s just a pinch of incense.
    C’mon, recite the lie. Just do it to get along. Your integrity will be fine…
    Just put a diaper over your face. It’s useless, but it makes other people feel safer.


  • Tom in CA June 30, 2020, 12:29 PM

    Fletcher Christian=the last caring person in the world. Thank you Fletcher. I just hope I don’t find out you work for our county where 80% of our 75 deaths were in nursing homes and you’ve done nothing to address that suffering except propagate fear among the general population. Keep up the good virtuous work you do. I

  • Kevin in PA June 30, 2020, 12:56 PM

    Another thing about the N-95 is that they must be tossed after wearing for 4 hours….and an entire procedure to remove and safely dispose of a mask coming from an area infected with the virus.

    As far as obedience to mask mandates, I think they are foolish theater showing “We Care” public relations efforts, but I comply with them when entering any business that posts it on the door. Private businesses should be free to do that with respect to a lot of things – No Smoking, Shirt and Shoes Required, etc. up to and including; WE RESERVE THE RIGHT TO REFUSE SERVICE TO ANYONE….but I suppose that is a sticky wicket in the modern era. I digress.

    So, I go into the local supermarket to pick-up at the pharmacy. As I got inside, I realized I had forgotten my mask. Fuck it. It’s hot and I am not walking back across the blacktop parking lot to get it. I walk in, unnoticed until I arrived at the pickup counter and the pharmacist has his mask hanging down under his chin. I sort of know the guy through brief conversations we have had about health issues and insurance. He knows I pay cash – no insurance. I suspect that he has the damn mask on because it is company policy and he needs to be able to slip it up over his face when the store manager comes on his rounds. He smiled when he saw I wasn’t wearing a mask….It was a smile of solidarity, of resistance to the stupid rules, but also a smile morphed into a sort of shrug at the fact that the working man has to put up with so much puerile horse shit just to make his bread.

    I do grumble and for example, today I went into F**e G**s Burger place, first time in like 7 months. Signs on the window now indicate you have the option to order online and they will bring your food out when you arrive. I go inside. There are now plastic barriers in all retail check-out stations and all the condiments and cups, lids, plastic utensils are by request only. Maybe some of that is good? I don’t know. Anyway, as I am waiting, annoyed that I must wear a mask to stand and wait for my order, but they allow dining in. Presumably one may remove the mask to eat. WTF? It really is idiocy run amok out there.

    So, I say to the guy, loud enough for everyone in the place to hear, I hate to wear this stupid mask. Would you please bring my order out to my car? Point to my car and he says, sure.

    As to the assertion that those not wishing to wear a mask, because I “don’t care about others”. This is typical whiney leftist attempt at guilt manipulation.
    My response: Be aware of hygiene wash your hands regularly. Cover your mouth if you must cough or sneeze. Try not to be a mouth-breather. That will probably help more than a mask, but I know that may be difficult for some. If you are sick stay home. If you feel that you are at risk wear the mask. However, mandating everyone wear a mask is stupid useless virtue signaling and you can piss off.

  • tim June 30, 2020, 12:56 PM

    “what fun would it be if you couldn’t make a scene”

    Just consider my mask-less face a form of protest (I was told protestors don’t have to wear a mask) against the treatment of my Irish ancestors upon coming to America, first as “indentured servants” (sure, OK, sounds better) and continuing with “No Irish Need Apply”.

    Irish Lives Matter, viva an Réabhlóid!!!

  • John Venlet June 30, 2020, 1:05 PM

    But perhaps you don’t care about others?

    Fletcher, it is because I do care about others, and care greatly, that I do not wear a mask. I prefer that Americans do not succumb to the mask charade, or the misleading information in regards to the Chinese bat flu which is fed to Americans by the MSM, on top of plain old outright lies perpetrated against Americans by the MSM, that I refuse to wear a mask. If a business wants to refuse my purchasing dollars because I refuse to wear a mask, well, it is their loss, not mine. You can wear a mask if you want to, Fletcher, but unless you are infected with the Chinese bat flu, you’re not only being gamed, you are participating in the charade.

  • Kevin in PA June 30, 2020, 2:19 PM

    “unless you are infected with the Chinese bat flu, you’re not only being gamed, you are participating in the charade.”
    Excellent! And every free thinking individual should remember Vaclav Havel’s comments about truth and refusing to perpetuate a lie. Paraphrasing; If you repeat what you know to be a lie, you give power to the lie. Don’t do it.

    Aye, Tim, “my Irish ancestors upon coming to America, first as “indentured servants” (sure, OK, sounds better) and continuing with “No Irish Need Apply”.”

    I’m glad you brought it up. I actually thought to mention it in one of the recent comments about protestors that are clamoring about injustice as if blacks are the only people to ever suffer discrimination. My paternal Grandmother was white. She came to this country bound to a contract of servitude (a polite word for slavery) that her uncle signed her into. She had not a word to say about it. For her services as a nanny to a wealthy family, she was given the promise of an education and a life in America, she at the age of 16 was put on a ship from Ireland sometime in the latter half of the final decade in the 19th Century. When she arrived, the terms of contract had been changed. She was not a nanny, but a maid servant to a sickly old and bedridden man. Changing bedpans, feeding and washing him. She never received the education that was promised either.
    So, to all the whiners in BLM and the other Marxist rabble; quit your bitchin’. Life is tough. Get over it and move forward.

    And finally, Gerard, the side bar – …and Mona Lisa must have the Covid-blues because you couldn’t tell by the way she smiled.

  • ghostsniper July 1, 2020, 4:37 AM

    The mask isn’t FOR you.
    It’s FOR everyone else.
    It contains all the contaminants that are being emitted from your gaping cake cave.
    Have you seen the variety of negro vids out there where it takes a bite out of fruits in the produce section of a grocery store? A worn mask prevents that. Yes, I know, the negro will simply lift the mask and chomp down. That’s why the produce manager should be patrolling his AO with a Desert Eagle at the ready.

  • Fletcher Christian July 1, 2020, 5:10 AM

    The whole point is that I might be infected with covid-19 and not know it. (Not Bat flu BTW – it’s less closely related to flu than we are to housecats.)

    BTW, I live in the UK and our situation in care homes is appalling too. There is damn all I can personally do about it, however. Vote out the shower of idiots we currently have in power and we get a gang of anti-Semites slightly to the left of Trotsky. And there won’t be a chance for that for another 4 years anyway.

  • OneGuy July 1, 2020, 8:03 AM

    Fletcher, I’m not sure you understand the problem. Masks do not protect you. There is some evidence that the readily available mask that the public has access to will stop 8% or so of virus. That means 92% still gets past the mask. How is that protection? It is a wish, a fairy tale, hope, sillyness but not protection. If you go into a infectious disease ward of a hospital the doctors and nurses do not depend on a simple cloth mask. They know it won’t protect them. The PPE they wear costs about $500 and they must remove it and destroy it after leaving the infectious area. Not only that they must use very specific procedures to remove it so that they do not contaminate themselves from the now contaminated PPE. Those cloth masks you insist that everyone wear are typically just taken off and put in the pocket or on the kitchen table until they need them again. The entire premise is a joke. IF the masks actually worked they would be a dangerous contaminated object that must be destroyed and only handled by professionals. But luckily they don’t work and probably have no serious germs or virus on them anymore than yours shirt or pants do. The masks don’t work! Their only purpose is to make the scared feel better and to give the politicians power over you.

  • ghostsniper July 1, 2020, 8:13 AM

    Fletcher sed: “Vote out the shower of idiots…”
    The only way, in the wonderful world of democracy, to oust the current gov’t criminals is to try to choose another set of criminals but each time you get the same result, worse criminals. Then, after a period of time of this volleying back and forth the whole thing resets violently back to the beginning to start anew.

    Seems like laziness, and intelligence levels, drives the whole thing. Laziness seems to be part of human nature which combined with low intelligence can cause parasitism. Producers are the hosts the parasites feed off of and the greedy politicians force the hosts to provide for the parasites rather than forcing them to provide for themselves. In time there are more parasites and politicians than producers and society suffers then fails.

    The cure, it seems, is for the producers to punish the politicians into requiring the parasites to provide for themselves. But how can the producers do that when the politicians are secured behind iron walls?

  • ignatz July 1, 2020, 6:49 PM

    “a gang of anti-Semites slightly to the left of Trotsky”
    Oh my.
    Where to begin?
    Apparently you fail to grasp that Trotsky (FKA Lev Davidovich Bronstein) WAS A SEMITE.
    Marx (from a long line of rabbis) and Moses Hess (a rabbi) enshrined communism, more fully developed by bolsheviks from New Yawk, delivered to Russia.

    Further left does not exist.
    And now here we are.

  • John Venlet July 2, 2020, 8:10 AM

    Fletcher, here’s a scientific review of effectiveness of masks (they are not effective). Worth having bookmarked.