I designed a home for the client of a contractor and the contractor owes me $7000. and hasn’t paid me for more than 3 months. I called the contractor last week and was told the client is “ghosting” them and they can’t pay me til the client pays them. Apparently ghosting means refusing to believe someone or something exists. They don’t answer the phone or emails or texts and don’t answer the door when the bell is rung. I wonder if they would come out and grab the garden hose if they saw a 5 gallon bucket of diesel billowing black smoke outside their front door?
VanderleunMay 19, 2020, 7:47 AM
I ‘spect that would fetch ’em.
ghostsniperMay 19, 2020, 8:40 AM
After thinking about it a bit and decided wasting one of my buckets is not wise, besides I’d have to drive 1000 miles to the home in southwest Florida. I can’t put a lien on the owners property because again, 1000 miles, and I have a real problem getting to close to the tiger. So I hired a long term associate to do the energy calcs on the home and then told him that I will pay him an extra $100 to file a lien against property owner now that he is a subcontractor on the project. Done. (2 weeks ago) Now, the ball is in the owners court because basically the property is froze. Nothing can be done. The land is off limits til the lien is satisfied. It takes the county about 10 days to render a certified notice to the property owner about the lien. I’m expecting a call from the vanished property owner later this week. Of course I’ll have my associate vanquish the lien, about 10 days AFTER I have cashed the check.
I really, REALLY hate getting nasty with people and really, REALLY wish people would act like human beings toward each other.
Snakepit KansasMay 19, 2020, 7:57 PM
Ghost,
I am curious about the validity of a third party lien if the first party did not sign a contract with the third party (you). I am not unsympathetic, simply curious. Possibly legally different state to state. I am considering some contracting to be done around my AO, just wondering what my liability is if the contractor does not pay his contractors. Any insight?
There is a place where the sidewalk ends
And before the street begins,
And there the grass grows soft and white,
And there the sun burns crimson bright,
And there the moon-bird rests from his flight
To cool in the peppermint wind.
Let us leave this place where the smoke blows black
And the dark street winds and bends.
Past the pits where the asphalt flowers grow
We shall walk with a walk that is measured and slow,
And watch where the chalk-white arrows go
To the place where the sidewalk ends.
Yes we’ll walk with a walk that is measured and slow,
And we’ll go where the chalk-white arrows go,
For the children, they mark, and the children, they know
The place where the sidewalk ends.
The steel mill sky is alive.
The fire breaks white and zigzag
shot on a gun-metal gloaming.
Man is a long time coming.
Man will yet win.
Brother may yet line up with brother:
This old anvil laughs at many broken hammers.
There are men who can’t be bought.
The fireborn are at home in fire.
The stars make no noise,
You can’t hinder the wind from blowing.
Time is a great teacher.
Who can live without hope?
In the darkness with a great bundle of grief
the people march.
In the night, and overhead a shovel of stars for keeps, the people
march:
“Where to? what next?”
Comments on this entry are closed.
I designed a home for the client of a contractor and the contractor owes me $7000. and hasn’t paid me for more than 3 months. I called the contractor last week and was told the client is “ghosting” them and they can’t pay me til the client pays them. Apparently ghosting means refusing to believe someone or something exists. They don’t answer the phone or emails or texts and don’t answer the door when the bell is rung. I wonder if they would come out and grab the garden hose if they saw a 5 gallon bucket of diesel billowing black smoke outside their front door?
I ‘spect that would fetch ’em.
After thinking about it a bit and decided wasting one of my buckets is not wise, besides I’d have to drive 1000 miles to the home in southwest Florida. I can’t put a lien on the owners property because again, 1000 miles, and I have a real problem getting to close to the tiger. So I hired a long term associate to do the energy calcs on the home and then told him that I will pay him an extra $100 to file a lien against property owner now that he is a subcontractor on the project. Done. (2 weeks ago) Now, the ball is in the owners court because basically the property is froze. Nothing can be done. The land is off limits til the lien is satisfied. It takes the county about 10 days to render a certified notice to the property owner about the lien. I’m expecting a call from the vanished property owner later this week. Of course I’ll have my associate vanquish the lien, about 10 days AFTER I have cashed the check.
I really, REALLY hate getting nasty with people and really, REALLY wish people would act like human beings toward each other.
Ghost,
I am curious about the validity of a third party lien if the first party did not sign a contract with the third party (you). I am not unsympathetic, simply curious. Possibly legally different state to state. I am considering some contracting to be done around my AO, just wondering what my liability is if the contractor does not pay his contractors. Any insight?