Too little too late for many people.
Tyranny is always ugly.
Roy LofquistMay 8, 2020, 5:35 PM
Shit happens. I’ve personally witnessed a lot of it over the past 75 years or so. It is good that Donald Trump is in charge.
Kevin in PAMay 8, 2020, 6:32 PM
I absolutely agree with you, Roy.
Trump has his faults, but can you imagine if Hillary were in charge, as we wade through the mire of this mess?
Or Obama?
Or, heaven forbid, Biden?
Gnawbone JackMay 9, 2020, 2:36 AM
With each day I am reminded of the knowledge gained from watching professional wrestling growing up. I was very pleased when Trump entered the Ring in 2016 and knew in my very soul that FINALLY we had a true warrior, our political Dick the Bruiser who could handle all the sh*t from the Shire Brothers.
Martin Armstrong of Global Solutions mailed this to the White House almost a month ago. This letter is very good. Three pages in length. Mailed April 13th to Trump, Powell, Mnuchin, McConnell, Scalise and a few others. These are surreal and dangerous times. I blame Trump for allowing the traitors Birx & Fauci to remain steadfast by his side throughout our deliberate destruction. To express even slight skepticism of the the full trajectory of this shut down, I receive scorn and revulsion from family, friends and neighbors. Sorry, there just ain’t enough dead lately to justify the dismantling of civilization. Whoops… I said it again.
“Sorry, there just ain’t enough dead lately”
Yet. And that’s with a measure of social isolation in place.
I’ll say it again. Doing nothing means something like 200 million Americans sick to varying degrees – and upwards of 4 million dead, with some of the rest having permanent health issues. Are you willing to be one of them, to make sure the 1% keep their money?
We’ll find out today. The So Cal RatRod ride rolls this morning in Huntington Beach. Despite the beaches being opened, I’ve heard firsthand stories of cops shutting down bike rides. Will the police be policing people for “social distancing”? (Good God, I despise that term) Will we get busted? Kicked out? We’ll find out today.
I’ll let you all know later on this afternoon. Wish us luck.
Fletcher,
I’m quite certain “the 1% are going to keep their money”.
The fact is that ALL OF THE MODELS ARE / WERE WRONG……and not by a little bit.
So what you posit is unfounded and Taiwan or even Sweden, as examples of countries not locking down, seem to contradict your assertion.
Tom,
I read the letter from Armstrong within the link you shared. While I tend to agree with his assertion (perhaps not in the specific detail, but generally), a president is only as good as the team he is surrounded by and he can only rely on their advice and counsel. I’ve come to look at Birx, Fauci and most all of the “experts” with a jaundice eye.
Having said that, Isn’t it too easy to “blame Trump for allowing the traitors Birx & Fauci to remain steadfast by his side throughout our deliberate destruction”?
Again, I ask, would you rather have Hillary in charge? Or “Sleepy- Joe”?
Or, as we approach the coming election, Justin Amash (Libertarian)…..how about Bernie?
Or, maybe you think Mitt Romney would be doing a better job?
This is, after all, an issue that governors need to handle…..and isn’t it interesting that those states ruled by the Donkey Party appear to be suffering the most from the decisions made by their governors?
Fletcher ChristianMay 9, 2020, 7:54 AM
Kevin:
AFAIK both Sweden and Taiwan have instituted track-and trace measures. The USA isn’t doing that either.
AnneMay 9, 2020, 8:02 AM
We have recently been given the proof –reliable, and well documented proof–that the DOJ and the FBI have been infiltrated and run by Democratic party/Socialist/Communist cons for who- knows- how- long. Would it be truly evil to suggest that perhaps the CDC and the Health Department have also been infested with those who would/could be coerced/convinced/managed to act unprofessionally? To act in a way that mis-represents the facts in order to accomplish a dictated “greater good”, i.e. the complete take over of this nation in the next election? Did we really think that all those who enjoy the great quality of life that has been given to them (DC, Virginia,Atlanta, etc.) by being employed in the Federal government would go quietly back home–to mediocrity? Do you think that just because they work in the health professions they are made of higher morales, or are more self-disciplined in the application of higher principles? Or, do you just need to believe that little darling leaning over your hospital bed would never do anything political that might not be in your best interest? I suggest to you that some of those, who would destroy our Bill of Rights, or our Constitution, would also ignore the Hippocratic oath as an inconvenience of the moment?
John VenletMay 9, 2020, 8:15 AM
Doing nothing means something like 200 million Americans sick to varying degrees – and upwards of 4 million dead, with some of the rest having permanent health issues. Are you willing to be one of them, to make sure the 1% keep their money?
Fletcher, are you basing your projections on Neil Ferguson’s discredited modeling projections, which are discredited and flat out wrong, or, on some model you’ve coded up yourself? Nothing you have stated in the various threads holds up to scrutiny.
Casey KlahnMay 9, 2020, 8:25 AM
The AP and Bloomberg and the other dirty rat bastards have written that the economy will come back slowly. That’s what Trump is refuting and he’s doing so based on what he did with the economy (which was fukn amazing) and based on our belief in the vitality of the american people and our potential economy. Classic greek argument style; I have already said the same thing. When it comes back, it will roar (but AP will still figure out how to take a stinky shit on it).
I read something about Newsom changing the goal posts every few days. He’s a twit, huh?
My gov is trying to take credit for a partial reopening because the hunting seasons have been re-opened. Hunting is maybe the most isolated sport you can do besides mountain climbing. There was no reason to close it. Government sucks and these are the dumbskulls who want to run our everyday healthcare.
OK, back to my isolated everyday life. Have fun.
The CountMay 9, 2020, 10:00 AM
I’ve been thinking a lot about the old Cloward-Piven Strategy lately. Feels like it’s being deployed with a vengeance. I can’t believe how fast this has all happened and how permanent it seems like it will become. If mail in voting is allowed to become the norm we are finished. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloward–Piven_strategy
@ Kevin in PA… I’m glad you asked that question… “would you rather have Hillary in charge? Or “Sleepy- Joe”? Or, as we approach the coming election, Justin Amash (Libertarian)…..how about Bernie? Or, maybe you think Mitt Romney would be doing a better job?”
Kevin, We The People should know who’s “in charge” but we don’t. It isn’t Trump or any of the other posers you rattled off. Who is in charge are the bankers of this world. As long as every President plays patty-cakes with the Federal Reserve we will never have a central focus of power and a voice that represents us and speaks for us. This disruption of the world economy is designed to anilate the people and hand all wealth and power to the “Owners” as George Carlin described them. He hits it precisely around 2 minutes into this video… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fT03vCaL-F0&frags=pl%2Cwn
If we had an honest media reporting with the exact same numbers of the dead and the sick being tolled out every day as though we’re all gonna die tomorrow, they’d be saying things like, “there are only x number of active cases today, and so far there have been only y number of deaths related to the kung flu, far lower than models predicted even with the measures we have been taking!
But that might give people hope, confidence, and courage…
fooMay 9, 2020, 6:12 PM
Cloward-Piven, DDG it, its a thing.
hooodathunkitMay 9, 2020, 10:25 PM
Fletcher Christian – you do know what ‘flattening the curve” means? It means everyone will get exposed to the virus at a slower rate. It doesn’t mean they won’t get exposed; you will be exposed and (if you’re part of the 80%) you will get the Wuhu Flu. Doing nothing or doing everything, 200 million Americans will get sick to varying degrees. Period. Lockdown does not change the number.
Over 60% of Wuhu Flu patient are coming from home isolation. Your quote of “… upwards of 4 million dead” is sheer BS and “some of the rest having permanent health issues” is mostly due to their being unable to access normal medical care for cancer, heart problems, etc.
In nursing homes the decisions are going to be about permanent, perpetual isolation . . . or not. But in the outside world, Wuhu Flu is going to touch everyone. The lockdowns slow the rate but do not –and weren’t designed to– change the numbers.
Fletcher ChristianMay 10, 2020, 4:54 AM
hooodathunkit:
Correct, with some caveats.
Flattening the curve has several purposes. First, and most important, is that reducing the number of cases at one time means people actually get appropriate treatment – and also that hospitals don’t get swamped enough to have to turn away non-covid emergencies. What happens if you have a heart attack, need intensive care, and ICU is full?
We don’t know what the mortality rate is for untreated Covid. We do know that it’s higher than when it’s treated.
Second, delaying most of the cases buys time for a treatment and/or vaccine to be developed; also for some sort of contact-tracing system to be set up, which is how diseases get beaten.
Third, I am NOT talking about health problems caused by not treating other ailments. It is becoming increasingly clear that people recovering from Covid are sometimes left with long-term health problems; heart failure, lung scarring, circulatory damage and, at the lower end, months of debilitating fatigue and muscle pains. Also sometimes brain damage a little like the symptoms of dementia.
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“Security does not exist in nature, nor do the children of men as a whole experience it. Avoiding danger is no safer in the long run than exposure.” – Helen Keller
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Too little too late for many people.
Tyranny is always ugly.
Shit happens. I’ve personally witnessed a lot of it over the past 75 years or so. It is good that Donald Trump is in charge.
I absolutely agree with you, Roy.
Trump has his faults, but can you imagine if Hillary were in charge, as we wade through the mire of this mess?
Or Obama?
Or, heaven forbid, Biden?
With each day I am reminded of the knowledge gained from watching professional wrestling growing up. I was very pleased when Trump entered the Ring in 2016 and knew in my very soul that FINALLY we had a true warrior, our political Dick the Bruiser who could handle all the sh*t from the Shire Brothers.
Martin Armstrong of Global Solutions mailed this to the White House almost a month ago. This letter is very good. Three pages in length. Mailed April 13th to Trump, Powell, Mnuchin, McConnell, Scalise and a few others. These are surreal and dangerous times. I blame Trump for allowing the traitors Birx & Fauci to remain steadfast by his side throughout our deliberate destruction. To express even slight skepticism of the the full trajectory of this shut down, I receive scorn and revulsion from family, friends and neighbors. Sorry, there just ain’t enough dead lately to justify the dismantling of civilization. Whoops… I said it again.
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/armstrongeconomics101/opinion/letter-to-president-trump-send-it-everywhere-you-can/
“Sorry, there just ain’t enough dead lately”
Yet. And that’s with a measure of social isolation in place.
I’ll say it again. Doing nothing means something like 200 million Americans sick to varying degrees – and upwards of 4 million dead, with some of the rest having permanent health issues. Are you willing to be one of them, to make sure the 1% keep their money?
We’ll find out today. The So Cal RatRod ride rolls this morning in Huntington Beach. Despite the beaches being opened, I’ve heard firsthand stories of cops shutting down bike rides. Will the police be policing people for “social distancing”? (Good God, I despise that term) Will we get busted? Kicked out? We’ll find out today.
I’ll let you all know later on this afternoon. Wish us luck.
JWM
Back in 1957 there was a pretty bad flu… as flues go. I wasn’t aware of this being I was two years old. That flu killed twice as many Americans compared to this current strain and… get this… the country and planet Earth soldiered on without hesitation.
https://straightlinelogic.com/2020/05/05/elvis-was-king-ike-was-president-and-116000-americans-died-in-a-pandemic-by-jeffrey-a-tucker/
Fletcher,
I’m quite certain “the 1% are going to keep their money”.
The fact is that ALL OF THE MODELS ARE / WERE WRONG……and not by a little bit.
So what you posit is unfounded and Taiwan or even Sweden, as examples of countries not locking down, seem to contradict your assertion.
Tom,
I read the letter from Armstrong within the link you shared. While I tend to agree with his assertion (perhaps not in the specific detail, but generally), a president is only as good as the team he is surrounded by and he can only rely on their advice and counsel. I’ve come to look at Birx, Fauci and most all of the “experts” with a jaundice eye.
Having said that, Isn’t it too easy to “blame Trump for allowing the traitors Birx & Fauci to remain steadfast by his side throughout our deliberate destruction”?
Again, I ask, would you rather have Hillary in charge? Or “Sleepy- Joe”?
Or, as we approach the coming election, Justin Amash (Libertarian)…..how about Bernie?
Or, maybe you think Mitt Romney would be doing a better job?
This is, after all, an issue that governors need to handle…..and isn’t it interesting that those states ruled by the Donkey Party appear to be suffering the most from the decisions made by their governors?
Kevin:
AFAIK both Sweden and Taiwan have instituted track-and trace measures. The USA isn’t doing that either.
We have recently been given the proof –reliable, and well documented proof–that the DOJ and the FBI have been infiltrated and run by Democratic party/Socialist/Communist cons for who- knows- how- long. Would it be truly evil to suggest that perhaps the CDC and the Health Department have also been infested with those who would/could be coerced/convinced/managed to act unprofessionally? To act in a way that mis-represents the facts in order to accomplish a dictated “greater good”, i.e. the complete take over of this nation in the next election? Did we really think that all those who enjoy the great quality of life that has been given to them (DC, Virginia,Atlanta, etc.) by being employed in the Federal government would go quietly back home–to mediocrity? Do you think that just because they work in the health professions they are made of higher morales, or are more self-disciplined in the application of higher principles? Or, do you just need to believe that little darling leaning over your hospital bed would never do anything political that might not be in your best interest? I suggest to you that some of those, who would destroy our Bill of Rights, or our Constitution, would also ignore the Hippocratic oath as an inconvenience of the moment?
Doing nothing means something like 200 million Americans sick to varying degrees – and upwards of 4 million dead, with some of the rest having permanent health issues. Are you willing to be one of them, to make sure the 1% keep their money?
Fletcher, are you basing your projections on Neil Ferguson’s discredited modeling projections, which are discredited and flat out wrong, or, on some model you’ve coded up yourself? Nothing you have stated in the various threads holds up to scrutiny.
The AP and Bloomberg and the other dirty rat bastards have written that the economy will come back slowly. That’s what Trump is refuting and he’s doing so based on what he did with the economy (which was fukn amazing) and based on our belief in the vitality of the american people and our potential economy. Classic greek argument style; I have already said the same thing. When it comes back, it will roar (but AP will still figure out how to take a stinky shit on it).
I read something about Newsom changing the goal posts every few days. He’s a twit, huh?
My gov is trying to take credit for a partial reopening because the hunting seasons have been re-opened. Hunting is maybe the most isolated sport you can do besides mountain climbing. There was no reason to close it. Government sucks and these are the dumbskulls who want to run our everyday healthcare.
OK, back to my isolated everyday life. Have fun.
I’ve been thinking a lot about the old Cloward-Piven Strategy lately. Feels like it’s being deployed with a vengeance. I can’t believe how fast this has all happened and how permanent it seems like it will become. If mail in voting is allowed to become the norm we are finished. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloward–Piven_strategy
@ Kevin in PA… I’m glad you asked that question… “would you rather have Hillary in charge? Or “Sleepy- Joe”? Or, as we approach the coming election, Justin Amash (Libertarian)…..how about Bernie? Or, maybe you think Mitt Romney would be doing a better job?”
Kevin, We The People should know who’s “in charge” but we don’t. It isn’t Trump or any of the other posers you rattled off. Who is in charge are the bankers of this world. As long as every President plays patty-cakes with the Federal Reserve we will never have a central focus of power and a voice that represents us and speaks for us. This disruption of the world economy is designed to anilate the people and hand all wealth and power to the “Owners” as George Carlin described them. He hits it precisely around 2 minutes into this video…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fT03vCaL-F0&frags=pl%2Cwn
“This sucker’s going down.”
If we had an honest media reporting with the exact same numbers of the dead and the sick being tolled out every day as though we’re all gonna die tomorrow, they’d be saying things like, “there are only x number of active cases today, and so far there have been only y number of deaths related to the kung flu, far lower than models predicted even with the measures we have been taking!
But that might give people hope, confidence, and courage…
Cloward-Piven, DDG it, its a thing.
Fletcher Christian – you do know what ‘flattening the curve” means? It means everyone will get exposed to the virus at a slower rate. It doesn’t mean they won’t get exposed; you will be exposed and (if you’re part of the 80%) you will get the Wuhu Flu. Doing nothing or doing everything, 200 million Americans will get sick to varying degrees. Period. Lockdown does not change the number.
Over 60% of Wuhu Flu patient are coming from home isolation. Your quote of “… upwards of 4 million dead” is sheer BS and “some of the rest having permanent health issues” is mostly due to their being unable to access normal medical care for cancer, heart problems, etc.
In nursing homes the decisions are going to be about permanent, perpetual isolation . . . or not. But in the outside world, Wuhu Flu is going to touch everyone. The lockdowns slow the rate but do not –and weren’t designed to– change the numbers.
hooodathunkit:
Correct, with some caveats.
Flattening the curve has several purposes. First, and most important, is that reducing the number of cases at one time means people actually get appropriate treatment – and also that hospitals don’t get swamped enough to have to turn away non-covid emergencies. What happens if you have a heart attack, need intensive care, and ICU is full?
We don’t know what the mortality rate is for untreated Covid. We do know that it’s higher than when it’s treated.
Second, delaying most of the cases buys time for a treatment and/or vaccine to be developed; also for some sort of contact-tracing system to be set up, which is how diseases get beaten.
Third, I am NOT talking about health problems caused by not treating other ailments. It is becoming increasingly clear that people recovering from Covid are sometimes left with long-term health problems; heart failure, lung scarring, circulatory damage and, at the lower end, months of debilitating fatigue and muscle pains. Also sometimes brain damage a little like the symptoms of dementia.
Two quotes I’m very fond of….
“All government, in its essence, is a conspiracy against the superior man: its one permanent object is to oppress him and cripple him…The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself, without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane and intolerable, and so, if he is romantic, he tries to change it. And even if he is not romantic personally he is very apt to spread discontent among those who are.” – H. L. Mencken
“Security does not exist in nature, nor do the children of men as a whole experience it. Avoiding danger is no safer in the long run than exposure.” – Helen Keller