Public “Servants” such as this need to be contact traced pronto.
“We also realize that as we find more contacts, some of the people we find are going to have trouble being isolated. For instance, if they live in a home where there’s only one bathroom, and there are three or four other people living there, and those people don’t have COVID infection, we’re not going to be able to keep the person in that home. Every person who we’re isolating, for instance, needs to have their own bathroom. So we’ll be moving people like this into other kinds of housing that we have available. — Dr. Levin’s contact tracing | Big Brother is Coming to Ventura Country! | Citizens Journal | Citizens Journal
So HIV kills more people than Covid-19 and even if you are not killed by it the symptoms are far worse and last longer. Yet it is not illegal to knowingly or intentionally infect someone with HIV. It was once illegal but for some reason now it is OK to have sex with innocent people for the purpose of infecting them with HIV. So why isn’t California tracing them and moving them to some place safe???
StargazerMay 7, 2020, 3:04 PM
Petty tyrants all! Pretentious. Dangerous.
Kevin in PAMay 7, 2020, 3:37 PM
Yes, contact tracing for tyrannical public “servants”.
It’s the law of unintended consequences. It works both ways!
While we are on the subject, this book is relevant, with great humor and a collectors item to as well.
*Unintended Consequences*, by John Ross, ISBN-13: 978-1888118056
Very difficult, for me, to put this treasure down once started.
Amazon customer reviews will help you make the decision to read the book. This book has been checked out and not returned at numerous public libraries. I would not purchase through the Bezos operation. But that is just me. Get it, read it and share it.
azlibertarianMay 7, 2020, 8:04 PM
I bought my copy of Unintended Consequences 20-some years ago at a gun show. It is a great book and I’ve read it several times.
While I agree that much of the .gov is being heavy-handed today, and I sincerely hope that we don’t get to a real life Unintended Consequences, part of me wonders whether Joe Sixpack will ever reach that point. In survivalist circles, some of these guys are burying–caching–their weapons and ammo on the fear that the .gov is about to grab their stuff. If you really believe that we’re at the point where it is rational to bury your guns, at what point would you actually use them?
Roger in RepublicMay 7, 2020, 8:33 PM
Do these people want the boogaloo? Because this kind of stuff is how you get the Boogaloo. And i’m shur they will not like what comes with this overreach.
Fletcher ChristianMay 8, 2020, 12:22 AM
Lee:
One “small” difference is that you can’t catch HIV by walking past someone who has it – whether he knows he has it or not. Aerial transmission is a bitch.
Also, people with HIV don’t make it difficult to impossible for people with totally different medical problems to get treated by needing ventilators and ICU beds.
With Covid-19, anyone can get it and anyone can be spreading it unknowingly. Not so HIV.
JCMay 8, 2020, 4:53 AM
Seems like such an easy solution to track citizens, just accidentally put them on a Kung Flu list and now you can watch and listen to their every move and sound and attribute it to administrative error later. PA is extending das lock up until June for the “red” counties. appropriate color for this. Question, will they move these people to the homeless Hilton’s with with the drug addicted street folk? God be with you all.
Dan PattersonMay 8, 2020, 4:54 AM
You all understand, don’t you, this is not an anomaly? Unlike that meathead Hannity that proclaims the purity of intent and welded allegiance to the Constitution by all but 0.00001%, the justice network is one of humans acting in their natural state of aggression and tyranny. Do not trust those cats to do anything but make themselves look good and feel important.
ghostsniperMay 8, 2020, 4:58 AM
azlibertarian asks: “…at what point would you actually use them?”
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That’s the part we all struggle with and no one has an answer yet. I don’t believe there will be a blanket answer that fits for everyone. Most likely we will describe our “line in the sand” as it is being drawn. My own personal fear is of being drawn into the fray by some sort of gov’t malfeasance that causes the uniformed drones to descend on me here on the compound. The situation will be innocent sounding up front but quickly escalate into over the top violence initiated by the false sense of security the tyrants live under.
“There was a scam perpetrated on your neighbor down the road and your vehicle was spotted in the area at about that time by the victims security camera. We would like you to come to the sheriff’s office to look at some pictures of criminals that have been in the area and see if you can help us out.”
JackMay 8, 2020, 7:51 AM
As I read about or listen to these authoritarian, true believing, appointed or elected thugs I almost immediately think of Waco and Ruby Ridge and I’m beginning to wonder if this government isn’t looking for another reckoning.
The sick thing is that despite our love and support of them, the military will most certainly obey the directives of its masters and join in the gang-banging of Americans wherever the opportunity presents itself, rather than turning on the bastards instead.
– George Miller
Publisher, Citizens Journal- Ventura County
Brother RoscoMay 9, 2020, 8:06 AM
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So HIV kills more people than Covid-19 and even if you are not killed by it the symptoms are far worse and last longer. Yet it is not illegal to knowingly or intentionally infect someone with HIV. It was once illegal but for some reason now it is OK to have sex with innocent people for the purpose of infecting them with HIV. So why isn’t California tracing them and moving them to some place safe???
Petty tyrants all! Pretentious. Dangerous.
Yes, contact tracing for tyrannical public “servants”.
It’s the law of unintended consequences. It works both ways!
Covert 19
Here’s what that communist looks like.
Memorize his features.
You may get lucky soon and have the opportunity to demoralize him.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/0Kf_gWrBio4/maxresdefault.jpg
or
https://www.citizensjournal.us/denouncing-dr-levins-contact-tracing-big-brother-is-coming-to-ventura-country/
While we are on the subject, this book is relevant, with great humor and a collectors item to as well.
*Unintended Consequences*, by John Ross, ISBN-13: 978-1888118056
Very difficult, for me, to put this treasure down once started.
Amazon customer reviews will help you make the decision to read the book. This book has been checked out and not returned at numerous public libraries. I would not purchase through the Bezos operation. But that is just me. Get it, read it and share it.
I bought my copy of Unintended Consequences 20-some years ago at a gun show. It is a great book and I’ve read it several times.
While I agree that much of the .gov is being heavy-handed today, and I sincerely hope that we don’t get to a real life Unintended Consequences, part of me wonders whether Joe Sixpack will ever reach that point. In survivalist circles, some of these guys are burying–caching–their weapons and ammo on the fear that the .gov is about to grab their stuff. If you really believe that we’re at the point where it is rational to bury your guns, at what point would you actually use them?
Do these people want the boogaloo? Because this kind of stuff is how you get the Boogaloo. And i’m shur they will not like what comes with this overreach.
Lee:
One “small” difference is that you can’t catch HIV by walking past someone who has it – whether he knows he has it or not. Aerial transmission is a bitch.
Also, people with HIV don’t make it difficult to impossible for people with totally different medical problems to get treated by needing ventilators and ICU beds.
With Covid-19, anyone can get it and anyone can be spreading it unknowingly. Not so HIV.
Seems like such an easy solution to track citizens, just accidentally put them on a Kung Flu list and now you can watch and listen to their every move and sound and attribute it to administrative error later. PA is extending das lock up until June for the “red” counties. appropriate color for this. Question, will they move these people to the homeless Hilton’s with with the drug addicted street folk? God be with you all.
You all understand, don’t you, this is not an anomaly? Unlike that meathead Hannity that proclaims the purity of intent and welded allegiance to the Constitution by all but 0.00001%, the justice network is one of humans acting in their natural state of aggression and tyranny. Do not trust those cats to do anything but make themselves look good and feel important.
azlibertarian asks: “…at what point would you actually use them?”
========
That’s the part we all struggle with and no one has an answer yet. I don’t believe there will be a blanket answer that fits for everyone. Most likely we will describe our “line in the sand” as it is being drawn. My own personal fear is of being drawn into the fray by some sort of gov’t malfeasance that causes the uniformed drones to descend on me here on the compound. The situation will be innocent sounding up front but quickly escalate into over the top violence initiated by the false sense of security the tyrants live under.
“There was a scam perpetrated on your neighbor down the road and your vehicle was spotted in the area at about that time by the victims security camera. We would like you to come to the sheriff’s office to look at some pictures of criminals that have been in the area and see if you can help us out.”
As I read about or listen to these authoritarian, true believing, appointed or elected thugs I almost immediately think of Waco and Ruby Ridge and I’m beginning to wonder if this government isn’t looking for another reckoning.
The sick thing is that despite our love and support of them, the military will most certainly obey the directives of its masters and join in the gang-banging of Americans wherever the opportunity presents itself, rather than turning on the bastards instead.
@ ghostsniper
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/google-tracked-his-bike-ride-past-burglarized-home-made-him-n1151761
You will note that article has an editors note saying Levein never said any of this was manadatory. The very next day he issued an unequivocal clear statement confirming that. Our independent sources confirmed the truth of that. Read my interview of Levin: https://www.citizensjournal.us/vc-health-officer-facing-biggest-challenge-of-career-with-covid-19-speaks-with-citizens-journal/
– George Miller
Publisher, Citizens Journal- Ventura County
“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?… The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If…if…We didn’t love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation…. We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”
― Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn , The Gulag Archipelago 1918–1956