Tom Hyland January 19, 2022, 6:20 AM
Last night Tucker Carlson delivered a crystal clear analogy of what is causing the Great Train Robbery and the decimation of civilization everywhere. It is bought and paid for and entirely planned this way.
Fred January 18, 2022, 11:41 AM
Civilization doesn’t “collapse.” Rather, where the rule of law and respect for it cease to be enforced, this is what replaces it. It has been ever thus. The difference between this and Rome in ruins is spray paint and stolen iPads. What is the same is the ruination of business, industry, and commerce, the end of public safety, the rise of dictatorship by whomever the strong thug is today, and the practical death of large cities as places worth living in. The fifth generation of my family was born in Chicago, today I live — well-armed, and with armed and trained neighbors, including veterans — between two small towns.
Mike Austin January 18, 2022, 12:16 PM
When—if—these United States collapse it will do so in its own way. Certainly, we can learn from the fall of the Western Roman Empire, but there are many other historical antecedents of rise and fall as well. Even when the Western Empire fell there was yet the entire eastern half which had not. As well there were large swaths of the west that remained stable for some decades after the Goths stormed the gates of Rome. Perhaps therein lies a clue: The entire west coast, the northern east coast, and a few Democrat Party urban enclaves collapse, yet the rest of the nation remains whole. Letting these degraded, violent, and dependent parts go would be like a man accepting the amputation of a gangrenous leg.
John A. Fleming January 18, 2022, 2:27 PM
Ooh, even in collapse, the rest of the nation would surely not want to lose the ports of LA and San Diego. I can see a no-man’s-land battleground between the 91 and the 105 in Los Angeles, and between the 110 and the 710. The United States would hold the high-ground at Redlands on the I-10, keeping the unfortunate souls of the People’s Democratic Progressive Republic of New Aztlan and Califia confined to the lowlands and north of the 105 and the 60. The PDRAC might try to destroy the 91/215/60 interchanges at Riverside. The United States would hold Edwards, Twenty-Nine Palms, Barstow, March, Pendleton, San Diego. The United States would have to keep the Owens Valley and Colorado aqueducts flowing unmolested or it would have a major humanitarian disaster on its hands.
Mike Austin January 19, 2022, 2:32 AM
For whatever ruling body exists once hostility commences a civil war would mean “a major humanitarian disaster on its hands”. That fairly well defines the effect of every civil war in History. There is no avoiding this. In civil war as in every war, someone has to lose. To shy away because of this is to renounce war, thus to become a virtual pacifist, thus to begin a journey to the Gulags. Zero-sum.
“The United States would have to keep the Owens Valley and Colorado aqueducts flowing unmolested…” Why should we allow our enemies water? Or food? Or fuel? Or medicines? Do you want to win or not? The control of water is a nice strategic tool to have, and it has ended countless sieges throughout History.
As for ports and such in enemy hands, they would not long remain there. I cannot imagine California holding out for very long in any civil war. Again, simply control the water and folks would get mighty amenable to coercion.
OneGuy January 18, 2022, 2:15 PM
One Sniper could stop this cold. AND no one that he killed would be missed or deserve to live. AND crime, in general, would go down.