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American Gulag by John Fleming (2012)


ORIGINALLY PUBLISHED December 10, 2012 12:36 PM [HT: WRSA]

Commenter John Flemming takes issue with Solzhenitsyn’s vision of Soviet repression in “How we burned in the camps later”. Fleming says, persuasively, that the Soviet way will not be ‘the American Way:’

“It’s not gonna be like that. It’ll be more subtle, like the LAPD arresting the harmless Moroccan filmmaker for daring to make a crappy movie that disses He Who Must Not Be Dissed [HWMNBD].

“You’re a maker. You’ll do something… like not pay your ObamaTax on time. Maybe deliberately.

“Or maybe you’re paying for things in cash too often.

“Or nobody has a right to make fun of HWMNBD, and you told a joke.

“They’ll come and evict you. A moocher family will quickly move in. They’ll have lists: takers and moochers. Don’t you know, it’s payback time? He promised them Revenge, remember? It’s somebody else’s turn to enjoy that home you have created.

“Will your neighbors defend you and chase the deputy sheriffs away when the come for you at 10PM? Not likely, they’ll look out, see the police cars, and close their blinds and wait for their turn with a growing sense of dread.

“Once a week, the cops show up late at night, no flashing lights, and the neighborhood slowly changes.

“These are the local police, not the Federals. You obviously did something bad, and the Courts will sort it all out.

“Yeah, the Courts, where the cops, laywers and judges get paid no matter who is in charge. You know, those Officers of the Court who have sworn an oath to defend the Constitution, that abstract old deeply-flawed document written by a bunch of DWEM’s that doesn’t have much relevance to the problems of today. And jeez, what can one judge do anyway, he can’t stand athwart the train tracks of history and stop the speeding Federal express, and he has a family to feed.

“And what does “sworn” and “oath” mean anyway, it doesn’t mean sworn sworn, where he has to put his life and family at risk to defend a flawed scrap of paper.

“You’ll be alone, surrounded by moochers, and no one will lift a finger to help. Your friends and neighbors will turn away. Zimmerman in Florida, Moroccan film maker in LA, abandoned by their nieghbors, who all say “We’ll let the legal process play itself out, if he’s done nothing wrong, he has nothing to fear”.

“You won’t be able to get the word out on the Internet, because goohoobingbook will instantly claim it’s hate speech or something and take it down.

“You’ll be left with nowhere to go. They’ll offer you the places the moochers just left. Or, they’ll have “resettlement zones” for your wife and kids, and for you, nothing.

“Of course it can happen here. They’re pruning the tree of Liberty one twig at a time. You never see it happen, but one day, the tree is dead, and you’ll wonder how it even happened, it was such a glorious and strong tree. And then a golpe, the tree will fall, and you’ll see it was hollow with rot for a long time.

“The time for taking a stand is coming.”

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  • Terry October 17, 2020, 3:26 PM

    I would repeat the exact same comment I typed just under John Flemming’s comment in 2012. Except for one addition: We are being bulldozed in slow motion to be buried alive. Both houses of Congress are well aware of what is going on. The Deep State is deeper than anyone could imagine.

  • jwm October 17, 2020, 4:56 PM

    The question is:
    Just how do “we” take that stand? We all saw who got to take their stand this summer, and who did not. Even with Trump in the oval office, blue state, blue county, and blue local governments have clamped a total lockdown on the law abiding, and allowed the vermin of blmantifa free rein to loot, destroy, and burn everything in sight. They let rioters out of jail, and prosecute the law abiding for defending their homes. Ask the Mc Closkey’s.

    I was there at the totally peaceful lockdown protest this last spring in Huntington Beach. It was full of Trump signs, Q signs, Gadsden, and American flags. Nobody called the cops names, and the cops busted no heads. Indeed, my bike club stopped for lunch in the middle of it all. We cracked a few beers, and burned a few bowls, and gave the cops a thumb’s up, and the cops smiled back and were cool with the whole thing.
    The protest accomplished absolutely nothing.

    Compare with what went down in Los Angeles, Hollywood, and Santa Monica. I won’t even begin to mention Portland and Seattle, New York, D.C. and in Minnesota.
    I know I have let loose with a few obscenity laced screeds here and elsewhere around the sites that I visit each day. I know I am not the only one burning with rage at all this. What do “we” do if the election is stolen for Biden? What do “we” do when the totalitarians of government and tech continue their war on the law abiding, on the churches, on our constitutionally protected rights?
    Maybe write a strongly worded letter to our representatives in local, state, or federal government? Maybe stand on a street corner with a sign? Maybe try to organize a protest. We can post it up on facebarf or twatter, and everyone will… oh wait…


  • Jack October 17, 2020, 6:13 PM
  • Terry October 17, 2020, 6:56 PM

    “Just how do we take that stand”

    Every man has a limit for enduring pain. He either dies or takes action. There are plenty of dangerous, trained, brave men in the ranks of America. The most threatening to the powers that be are and may well be, the lone wolf types, i.e. assassins.

    Also, the US military is made up of citizens. That is who would do the “fighting”. The officer corps cannot do the actual combat solely. Would the citizen soldiers follow orders to kill the citizenry, their kin? No. Not now. This country is destroyed as a nation. Lawless anarchy is dominant.

    The leaders of the coup would be the primary targets for elimination. Then on down to the bottom of the toilet cleaners and petty .gov thieves.

    What will you do? No idea. But I know what I will do and so does my extended family and friends. We will not become slaves. The situation is and will be fluid from now and into the distant future.

    The third strike of the match has been struck and the fire is started.

    Or, possibly nothing sinister will happen in relation to the election. I will not count on that scenario. Be prepared.

  • Jack October 17, 2020, 8:00 PM

    I’ve tried to post the link on this article 5-6x tonite and it gets kicked out so I’ll just copy and paste the article itself. I hope it shows up here on AD.

    CANADA GOING TYRANNICAL! 2nd “Total” Lockdown; ISOLATION CAMPS for “Refusers”

    Hal Turner Radio Show

    I received this from an elected member of the Canadian government who is aghast at the Prime Minister’s Office (PMO) plans for our neighbors to the north . . .This is a nightmare unfolding!

    “I want to provide you some very important information. I’m a committee member within the Liberal Party of Canada. I sit within several committee groups but the information I am providing is originating from the Strategic Planning committee (which is steered by the PMO).

    I need to start off by saying that I’m not happy doing this but I have to. As a Canadian and more importantly as a parent who wants a better future not only for my children but for other children as well.

    The other reason I am doing this is because roughly 30% of the committee members are not pleased with the direction this will take Canada, but our opinions have been ignored and they plan on moving forward toward their goals.

    They have also made it very clear that nothing will stop the planned outcomes.

    The road map and aim was set out by the PMO and is as follows:

    – Phase in secondary lock down restrictions on a rolling basis, starting with major metropolitan areas first and expanding outward. Expected by November 2020.

    – Rush the acquisition of (or construction of) isolation facilities across every province and territory. Expected by December 2020.

    – Daily new cases of COVID-19 will surge beyond capacity of testing, including increases in COVID related deaths following the same growth curves. Expected by end of November 2020.

    – Complete and total secondary lock down (much stricter than the first and second rolling phase restrictions). Expected by end of December 2020 – early January 2021

    – Reform and expansion of the unemployment program to be transitioned into the universal basic income program. Expected by Q1 2021.

    – Projected COVID-19 mutation and/or co-infection with secondary virus (referred to as COVID-21) leading to a third wave with much higher mortality rate and higher rate of infection. Expected by February 2021.

    – Daily new cases of COVID-21 hospitalizations and COVID-19 and COVID-21 related deaths will exceed medical care facilities capacity. Expected Q1 – Q2 2021.

    – Enhanced lock down restrictions (referred to as Third Lock Down) will be implemented. Full travel restrictions will be imposed (including inter-province and inter-city). Expected Q2 2021.

    – Transitioning of individuals into the universal basic income program. Expected mid Q2 2021.

    – Projected supply chain break downs, inventory shortages, large economic instability. Expected late Q2 2021.

    – Deployment of military personnel into major metropolitan areas as well as all major roadways to establish travel checkpoints. Restrict travel and movement. Provide logistical support to the area. Expected by Q3 2021.

    Along with that provided road map, the Strategic Planning committee was asked to design an effective way of transitioning Canadians to meet a unprecedented economic endeavor. One that would change the face of Canada and forever alter the lives of Canadians.

    What we were told was that in order to offset what was essentially an economic collapse on a international scale, that the federal government was going to offer Canadians a total debt relief.

    This is how it works: the federal government will offer to eliminate all personal debts (mortgages, loans, credit cards, etc) which all funding will be provided to Canada by the IMF under what will become known as the World Debt Reset program.

    In exchange for acceptance of this total debt forgiveness the individual would forfeit ownership of any and all property and assets forever.

    The individual would also have to agree to partake in the COVID-19 and COVID-21 vaccination schedule, which would provide the individual with unrestricted travel and unrestricted living even under a full lock down (through the use of photo identification referred to as Canada’s HealthPass) .

    Committee members asked who would become the owner of the forfeited property and assets in that scenario and what would happen to lenders or financial institutions, we were simply told “the World Debt Reset program will handle all of the details”.

    Several committee members also questioned what would happen to individuals if they refused to participate in the World Debt Reset program, or the HealthPass, or the vaccination schedule, and the answer we got was very troubling. Essentially we were told it was our duty to make sure we came up with a plan to ensure that would never happen. We were told it was in the individuals best interest to participate.

    When several committee members pushed relentlessly to get an answer we were told that those who refused would first live under the lock down restrictions indefinitely.

    And that over a short period of time as more Canadians transitioned into the debt forgiveness program, the ones who refused to participate would be deemed a public safety risk and would be relocated into isolation facilities. Once in those facilities they would be given two options, participate in the debt forgiveness program and be released, or stay indefinitely in the isolation facility under the classification of a serious public health risk and have all their assets seized.

    So as you can imagine after hearing all of this it turned into quite the heated discussion and escalated beyond anything I’ve ever witnessed before.

    In the end it was implied by the PMO that the whole agenda will move forward no matter who agrees with it or not.

    That it wont just be Canada but in fact all nations will have similar roadmaps and agendas. That we need to take advantage of the situations before us to promote change on a grander scale for the betterment of everyone. The members who were opposed and ones who brought up key issues that would arise from such a thing were completely ignored. Our opinions and concerns were ignored. We were simply told to just do it.

    All I know is that I don’t like it and I think its going to place Canadians into a dark future.”


    This email communication to me from a VERIFIED member of the Canadian Parliament very much fits with something that came out on October 8, via televised proceedings in Parliament. Here a member of Parliament asks if “the people of Ontario should prepare for Internment camps?” He was told “yes” but in a vague and ambiguous way:

    In fact, the Canadian government has issued requests for proposals to industry, on the building of camps in every province and territory throughout the country! Here is the official government tender:

    Hal Turner Remark: This is outright tyranny. Canadians would do well to ARM THEMSELVES and prepare to throw-off any tyrant who attempts this. Concentrate you research into LOCAL tyrants first. Once your freedom is gone, it is gone forever.

  • jwm October 17, 2020, 9:04 PM

    Jack. I know nothing about Hal Turner, or his show. But I looked up his site, and posted the link on Gab. No trouble at all posting the link. I’m liking Gab Ai more and more.


  • Jack October 18, 2020, 7:08 AM

    jwm, I tried 4-5x to post the link here but it wouldn’t take but I had no trouble posting the first link that discusses the potential coup if the President is re-elected. Thanks for passing it along.

    It may very well be that North America will see efforts by politicians and the military to bring some kind of marxist revised plan to Canada and hit the delete button on our Constitution and Bill of Rights and install something more Orwellian and to their tastes.

    With all of the trouble that we have seen in the last few years and particularly in 2020 and moving forward, every citizen should understand that right, wrong or indifferent, all of us are targets of some one or some agendas that have never really been presented in such an up-in-your-face manner before and that shite ain’t goin’ away without a conflict that will end it for a lot of peeps.

    The American Civil War and WWI were started on less agitation than we are seeing today and I believe our next major conflict is about to erupt; sooner rather than later.

  • Fuel Filter October 18, 2020, 4:11 PM

    Jack, some questions:

    “ Projected COVID-19 mutation and/or co-infection with secondary virus (referred to as COVID-21)”

    Is this guy saying, or inferring that someone in the Canadian Government is going to re-engineer the virus to make it 21 or am I mis-reading this?

    If any one of these steps goes pear-shaped it all fails. Your source have anything on his .gov response to that?

    As far as arming themselves, I have no idea of Canadian gun laws. Are they dictated to by their .gov feds or by .gov Provence?

  • Jack October 18, 2020, 4:34 PM

    Fuel, I received a link from a friend of mine who has family in Canada. I don’t know anything about the supposed writer or fella who put that thing out, Hal Turner, but after looking at your post I looked him up and Wiki wasn’t very kind to him but I don’t know who controls what goes into Wiki.

    I tried to find some other things that might relate to Turner’s comments but didn’t find anything and if this thing is some kind of nut job hoax, I apologize. His comments didn’t provide names of his sources so in retrospect, that could easily be a red flag that I let slip by what I consider my normal careful approach to things. So, to all, if this thing is just some WWW BS, I apologize.

    The other article though, from American Mind, seems reasonable.

  • John A. Fleming October 19, 2020, 12:24 AM

    Well, that held up reasonably well, got a few things right, and other things have not yet come to pass, and may never. The last four years of Trumpitude has stalled their progress, they’re focused on taking him out before turning back towards us. And “take a stand” is the crux difficulty. Maybe with cancel culture, they avoid it. You get cancelled, fired from your job and made unemployable in your profession, you move yourself out. There never will be a time and place to resist.