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58 Years Ago: “With Cain go wander through shades of night”


“Every journalist writes his own obituary.”

On that November day in 1963, I was at the sylvan campus of the University of California at Davis. I was meeting with my drama teacher and director about Shakespeare’s Richard II a play we were about to put on and one in which I had a small role. We were discussing how to block the final scene of the play when through the open window we caught a rising chorus of alarm and weeping. On the quad across the way, a group of students was forming a circle around the window into the student union where a television displayed Walter Cronkite telling the nation that its president had been shot in the head.

Later that week the assassin was killed. Later that week there would be a funeral in Washington DC. Later that week we postponed the play’s opening but not the rehearsals.

Enter EXTON, with persons bearing a coffin

EXTON: Great king, within this coffin I present
Thy buried fear: herein all breathless lies
The mightiest of thy greatest enemies,
Richard of Bordeaux, by me hither brought.

HENRY BOLINGBROKE: Exton, I thank thee not; for thou hast wrought
A deed of slander with thy fatal hand
Upon my head and all this famous land.

EXTON: From your own mouth, my lord, did I this deed.

HENRY BOLINGBROKE: They love not poison that do poison need,
Nor do I thee: though I did wish him dead,
I hate the murderer, love him murdered.
The guilt of conscience take thou for thy labour,
But neither my good word nor princely favour:
With Cain go wander through shades of night,
And never show thy head by day nor light.
Lords, I protest, my soul is full of woe,
That blood should sprinkle me to make me grow:
Come, mourn with me for that I do lament,
And put on sullen black incontinent:
I’ll make a voyage to the Holy Land,
To wash this blood off from my guilty hand:
March sadly after; grace my mournings here;
In weeping after this untimely bier.

Exeunt

SCENE VI. Windsor castle.

{ 51 comments… add one }
  • Sam L. November 22, 2021, 9:23 AM

    I didn’t see that. I was in college, talking to a friend, when a news bulletin came on and told us about it.
    I remember it was a cloudy day.

  • Mike Austin November 22, 2021, 10:28 AM

    This very morning I happened to be discussing with a friend the death of Alexander the Great (323 BC). We debated the varies theories put forth about its cause. Typhus? Malaria? Poison? Something else? Historians have written hundreds of books and written thousands of essays about Alexander’s death at 32 years of age. Their unanimous conclusion: We don’t know what caused Alexander’s death. I mentioned to my friend that we still debate the question of “Who killed JFK?” That happened only 58 years ago. How much therefore can we really know about a death 2300 years ago?

    And now come the words that bedevil historians to this day: We will never know.

    Will we come one day to say the same thing about JFK’s assassination? Theories abound. The less crazy ones are: The Mob—Michael Franzese strongly hints that yes, it was the Mob. It certainly had reason. It had helped get Kennedy elected, and then he appointed his brother Bobby as attorney general who then went after the Mob—with a vengeance.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9h9W4c2YLCg

    Could it have been Castro? That sordid fellow had reason as well. JFK’s White House tried to assassinate him at least five times.

    How about Lee Harvey Oswald? The Warren Commission stated this with certainty. Of course, it does not help its case that Oswald was himself killed two days after shooting the president—if he did indeed shoot the president.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6PcVCqg3tg

    Dead men can’t dance—or talk.

    Some of the theories that once sounded impossibly impossible involve the CIA, the FBI and a cabal of weird and shady business nawabs. These beliefs once inhabited the darker regions of the tinfoil hat crowd. But with the deaths of Vincent Foster, Michael Hastings and Seth Rich—and many others—these possibilities can no longer be dismissed. But I warn you: Researching such things will take you down a rabbit hole of mirrors, of plots within plots, and into a void from which you might never return.

    So who killed JFK? I don’t know. You don’t know. But somebody knows. And he ain’t talking.

    • Tom Hyland November 22, 2021, 6:15 PM

      I answered the same question “one guy” is asking down below and I wrote out an informative answer to “who killed Kennedy” and it disappeared into the internet ether. Maybe it will show up later on, but for now, I’m going to give it another go.

      The kill-shot that removed the back of Kennedy’s skull was delivered by James Files. At the time he was 21 years old and was working for the Chicago mob. Files lives in Illinois and is about 79 years old. Files was stationed behind the fence on the grassy knoll. He was aiming for JFK’s right eye, which was easy to see through the scope mounted atop his Remington Fireball .222 which is a single-shot bolt action pistol with a handgrip and extended shoulder arm. They have virtually no recoil and were newly available in 1963. At a split second before he pulled the trigger JFK lunged slightly forward from another shot delivered from the rear to the President’s upper right torso below the neck. That bullet was from another Chicago hitman named Charles Nicoletti. The body lunge caused File’s bullet to strike above the eye into the temple just below the hairline. Earlier, what caused JFK to reach for his throat, when he came from around the street sign, was the result of a bullet fired from the front which went through the windshield just above the hood. Oswald didn’t shoot anyone. He was a dutiful and helpful CIA gopher who escorted Files around Dallas for several days before the “big event.” He showed Files where he could set up for target practice and got him familiarized with the highways and escape routes all over Dallas.

      James Files had a peculiar fetish at the time which was he loved the taste and smell of gunpowder. When he discharged the spent brass he bit hard into the item and then shoved it in between two slats on the wood fence. This spent shell was found in the early 80’s, about three inches deep in the ground behind the fence. It was examined by a forensic dental expert who concluded these were human teeth marks. If you look up James Files on wikipedia you’ll read that he’s a liar and a conspiracy theorist. That’s always the hallmark of quality and we thank you, wiki for everything you do. Read this book. Don’t give money to wikipedia and other deep state goons. https://tinyurl.com/2tn2ens7

      • Mike Austin November 22, 2021, 6:27 PM
        • Tom Hyland November 22, 2021, 7:56 PM

          Yeah, I read the infogalactic page on James Files and it’s about the same as wiki. Some call him a liar and others say he’s the most credible explanation for how the deed went down. “Files On JFK” is an astounding story. Files can’t be prosecuted for killing Kennedy because “Oswald did it… wink, wink.” What a world. By the way, I couldn’t reply below, no reply button. You told me to stop paying taxes and you’d stop buying from Amazon. I informed you of my status and you replied “No.” You won’t stop buying from Amazon. That was fast. Nice, Mike.

          • Mike Austin November 23, 2021, 3:19 AM

            The deal was if you stopped paying taxes, then I would stop buying from Amazon. Since you have never paid taxes, there was no deal to be had. A man cannot sign an agreement to cease doing something he had never done.

            I am a stickler for contracts.

            • Tom Hyland November 23, 2021, 6:25 AM

              Obviously, Mike. The contracts you adhere to within your own mind, all imagined, are keeping you imprisoned. There is no judgment day. There is no “you” standing in front of some “other” whether supreme or inferior. Wake up. There is no “other” anything.

              • Mike Austin November 23, 2021, 8:02 AM

                Wow. I sure have been mistaken. Until this very day I had thought that only God knew what was within my own mind—real or imagined—that God lied about Judgement Day, and that the only thing in the universe was I and no other.

                Has anyone ever called you a solipsist?

                “1. The theory that the self is the only thing that can be known and verified.
                2. The view that the self is the only reality.
                3. Absorption with oneself without consideration for the needs and desires of others.”

                Or a nihilist?

                “1. The doctrine that nothing actually exists or that existence or values are meaningless.
                2. Relentless negativity or cynicism suggesting an absence of values or beliefs.”

                Or an atheist?

                “Disbelief in or denial of the existence of God or gods.”

                My Holy Trinity is Patris, et Filii, et Spiritus Sancti. Yours is solipsism, nihilism and atheism. I prefer mine.

                But we both know that your atheism—like all atheism—is really a sham. All so-called “atheists” indeed have a god. Look into the mirror and you will see him.

                • Tom Hyland November 23, 2021, 9:29 AM

                  Nope… not an atheist. That would infer that there’s a separate “tom” pointing at “something else” and saying it doesn’t exist. The most valuable tool in your kit is to simply contemplate eternity. Imagine, think really hard, how is eternity supposed to function… for all of eternity? You think “mike” is forever hanging out with Jesus… an eternal “mike” and an eternal “jesus?” “Hi Mike… hi Jesus.” After 850 billion years, which isn’t a drop in the bucket, I mean, this is eternity… wouldn’t that get kind of tiresome? The duality thing doesn’t exist, there is no other, all is one, has always been as such and always will be. The “doer” must cease, must be let go as a concept, it is actually imagined and doesn’t exist, because doing can not go on forever. RIP… real peace…..
                  Give me a call if you want to talk about it. Writing about this stuff in a public forum is intrusive and probably perceived as rude by others.

    • James ONeil November 23, 2021, 10:34 AM

      My main problem with the official line back then and today; I owned & fired that Italian model carbine. Based on my experience with it, it wasn’t fast enough nor accurate enough to do as claimed.

      Maybe they made a mach model that Lee got hold of or maybe mine was the one bad one in a thousand but…

  • Anonymous November 22, 2021, 10:51 AM

    A Friday, I was 11, in the 5th grade. The last portion of that day, weekly, was for participation in clubs one was a member 0f. Mine was the model club, overseen by Mr. West, my first male teacher.

    He left the room, returned, and said, “President Kennedy has been shot.” The PA came on and the principal, Mr. Jeffries, told us to return to our homerooms, and prepare to leave school.

    Television was limited for a time with regular programming reduced. I expressed anger at this causing my mother to reply in ugly register “I can’t believe a child of mine would be so selfish as to say such a thing” with her finger pointed at me and wearing her witch face the while.

    • gwbnyc November 22, 2021, 10:53 AM

      ^gwbnyc^

  • Tom Hyland November 22, 2021, 11:00 AM

    I’ve never experienced so many dots connected to further my understanding of JFK’s assassination until I read “The Man Who Killed Kennedy” written by Roger Stone. On the dust jacket is a photograph of LBJ. The Kennedy brothers were grossly naive to pursue persecuting the mob. The brothers were swindled into allowing LBJ onto the ticket and were clueless to not perceive the motives of this snake. As ever, the eternal question, who stands to profit from a coup? Read this book.

    • Mike Austin November 22, 2021, 11:15 AM

      Just ordered it from Amazon.

      • Tom Hyland November 22, 2021, 11:52 AM

        Mike… stop buying from Amazon. Stop it. Does Bezos have enough money already? Order from bookfinder.com and buy from an independent bookseller. FJB and that goes for Jeff Bezos, too.

        • Mike Austin November 22, 2021, 12:22 PM

          I understand your point. But if I graded all the suppliers I deal with on the purity of their politics I would have no clothes, no bicycles, no food, no place to live, no electronics, no backpacking gear, no CDs or records and very few books. I don’t pay Bezos to agree with me. I pay him to provide a service—which he does efficiently, inexpensively and rapidly. Because I pay him, that makes him my servant. To put the matter succinctly: Amazon makes my life better.

          • Tom Hyland November 22, 2021, 4:24 PM

            Nope… F J B…. Bezos is a deep state goon. Buy your books from independent book sellers.
            https://www.bookfinder.com/

            • Mike Austin November 22, 2021, 4:46 PM

              You are committing a secular version of the Donatist Heresy:

              “The Donatists believed that Christian clergy must be faultless and that the presence of error among them invalidated their ministries and sacraments.”

              Amazon lists 70,000 books under the title ‘Bible’. Francis Porretto, a Catholic author and sometimes commenter here, lists his books there. Would it make you happy if Bezos refused to sell such things? Will you contact all those like Porretto and demand they cease any doings with Bezos because you find him wanting?

              You are seeking a purity that does not exist on earth. You are not living in Plato’s Republic. All men—surprise, surprise—come up short in their own ways.

              When I die Christ will not ask me if I had done business with Jeff Bezos. He will have more important things on His mind.

              • Tom Hyland November 22, 2021, 5:24 PM

                Mike, when you die it will be dark silence. No conversations, no questions. And nobody. Total silence. This is world without end, amen. And… there WILL be another world, sure as you’re in the thick of one now, and this will continue until you wake up and snap out of this dream you’re having.

                • Mike Austin November 22, 2021, 5:34 PM

                  Tom, I’m confused. Everything you wrote about death contradicts the words of Christ and His Scripture. Whom to believe?

                  Decisions, decisions. I am vexed; I am terribly vexed.

            • Mike Austin November 22, 2021, 5:30 PM

              I have a great idea. (I get those from time to time.) You object to my helping finance with a few pennies here and there a “deep state goon” like Bezos. Ok then. I live off retirement and Social Security; thus my income level is such that I pay no federal income tax. Yay! So…how much did you pay in federal income tax last year? Guess where all of it went? To help finance the deep state and all its goons.

              So stop it. Just stop it. Don’t pay your taxes. Be as pure and as wholesome as as you can be. And no excuse that “but I’ll get thrown in jail if I don’t pay my taxes!” Stand up for what you believe! Ann Barnhardt did. And she’s a gal.

              Admittedly prison would be mightily inconvenient for you; and ceasing buying from Amazon would be mightily inconvenient for me. So a proposal: You stop paying taxes, and I’ll stop buying from Amazon. Deal?

              • Tom Hyland November 22, 2021, 5:48 PM

                I’ve never paid taxes… never… federal or state. I’ve never filed and I never will. By law, I’m referring to US Code Title 26, I am not required to pay taxes. My earnings are not taxable income. I’ve worked for myself since age 18. Never had a boss. I’ve never lived as an employee and I don’t think like an employee. I’ve never placed a nickel into social security and will never receive a check from that Ponzi scheme. Okay? so, stop buying from Amazon. I bought ONE book from them and it took me about 8 months to realize they were pilfering my bank account for 10 bucks on a monthly basis. I called them up and they told me now I’m an “Amazon member.” I told them to cancel my membership, to a club I never joined, and give me back my money before I call the police. They did as I told them and I will never buy ANYTHING from Amazon… ever.

                • Mike Austin November 22, 2021, 6:12 PM

                  “…stop buying from Amazon.” No.

                  Nice to know that you have lived your life in Augustine’s City of God. I have labored since the age of 9 in the sewer of Romulus.

                  “I’ve never lived as an employee and I don’t think like an employee.” How do employees think? All of them? Each and every one? Remarkable insight and perception you must have.

                  “I’ve never placed a nickel into social security and will never receive a check from that Ponzi scheme.” It certainly is a Ponzi scheme of sorts. Since a young lad I have put $36,000 into it. Since mid 2019 I have drawn Social Security checks totaling over $38,000. If I live another ten years that raises it to almost $200,000. And I have not worked since retirement. No too bad.

                  Sorry about your dealings with Amazon. Bezos will just have to make do without your pennies. How will he survive?

    • Joe November 22, 2021, 4:45 PM

      “The Kennedy brothers were grossly naive to pursue persecuting the mob. The brothers were swindled into allowing LBJ onto the ticket and were clueless to not perceive the motives of this snake.” President Ronald Reagan made the same mistake when he was threatened to either take bush or loose. How many days after he was elected did the assignation attempt take place by a close family friend’s son? Isn’t it odd that bush was in Dallas the same day of the Kennedy assignation. Isn’t it odd that the CIA headquarters is named after bush even though he was only running the agency for 1 year.

  • Mike Austin November 22, 2021, 11:05 AM

    Since Gerard brought up “Richard II”, I will bring up “Richard III”. You believe that JFK’s death was a conspiracy? Well then, you are in good company—Shakespeare’s company that is. His play “Richard III” contains a doozy of a conspiracy. That is: Who killed the princes in the tower? There as many theories about these killings as there are about JFK’s. Here are the “Little Princes”:

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f5/ee/2f/f5ee2fc29ddd85346f77673320e6ffc0.jpg

    They ended up missing and presumed murdered when Richard III was King of England. I will not confuse you—and confuse myself—with the myriad theories about this. They continue to this day.

    Shakespeare thought about Richard III in the same way that our media think of Donald Trump. He has his Richard say,

    “And thus I clothe my naked villany
    With old odd ends stolen out of holy writ;
    And seem a saint, when most I play the devil…
    Since I cannot prove a lover…
    I am determined to prove a villain.”

    Did he kill the princes? Who knows? Could he have? Most certainly. Did others have a motive as well? Most certainly, Henry Tudor for one. So where does that leave us? Nowhere I’m afraid. They ended up dead; that is all. If you want to go down that rabbit hole, start here:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Daughter_of_Time

    Happy hunting.

  • Roy Lofquist November 22, 2021, 11:06 AM

    We were settling down in our Quonset hut at the far end of Incirlik AFB after a couple of days of around the clock missions when we got the news. The next morning we dug out our musty Class A’s for a memorial formation. As we stood there we watched two nuclear weapon transporters, ugly yellow spidery looking things, heading towards the hot pad.

  • AlfromChgo November 22, 2021, 11:56 AM

    Sailing into Tokyo Bay on a troop transport. 900 Marines and our bus drivers. After the prior three years, we cheered.

    Grew up in Chicago, returned to do 30 plus years on the Police.

    James Ellroy is closer to the truth than all of the media.

  • John Venlet November 22, 2021, 12:14 PM

    I was a mere 3 1/2 years old, when JFK was shot. The most memorable aspect of the whole affair, that I can recall, is that the television, black and white yet at our home in those days, was brought into the kitchen and was set on the counter and we watched the news while eating dinner, and we also watched the television news on Sunday. Neither of these things EVER happened at my parents’ home in those days. The only other time, as a kid, that the television was on on a Sunday, was when Armstrong and Aldrin were on the moon.

    • Brian_E` November 25, 2021, 8:21 AM

      I remember that the only time I ever saw my father cry was when JFK was assassinated. It was unsettling.

      What might have precipitated this was that my father worked in the White House at the time, and so was a bit closer than most, having literally brushed elbows with him on occasion.

  • OneGuy November 22, 2021, 2:38 PM

    Everyone who has ever spent anytime shooting wonders how Kennedy was really shot and who did it. It wasn’t done with that rifle out of some 6th story window downhill some 100 yards at a moving target with two of the shots a second apart. That rifle “may” have been used to shoot at Kennedy as there were some shots that hit the pavement but it is doubtful that an expert could do it with that rifle and those conditions. That rifle was a plant and Oswald was the patsy and Jack Ruby was the insurance.
    Just two of the never explained mysteries: 1. The magic bullet that hit John Connoly three times in three different places AND left behind a few mg of lead but the bullet itself never lost that lead?!
    The planted bullet in pristine condition laying on the stretcher used to transport Kennedy to the hospital. That bullet proves a conspiracy and a lot of planning.

    Who shot Kennedy? Probably Sam Giancana. Second guess, the CIA, third guess, VP Johnson. Least possible guess Oswald.

    The pièces de résistance proof that the official version was pure bullshit is the investigation conducted by people whose motive was above challenge LOL. The results were a fairy tale, most of the actual evidence was put into a secret vault forever and it was changed a couple of times as critics pointed out a few impossibilities.

    • Tom Hyland November 22, 2021, 5:02 PM

      The kill shot, the one that removed the back of Kennedy’s skull, was delivered by James Files. He was 21 years old at the time and was working for the Chicago mob. Files was aiming for JFK’s right eye but at a split second before the trigger another bullet from the rear, fired by a Chicago hitman named Charles Nicoletti, caused him to lurch forward. Thus, he hit JFK above the right eye, through the upper temple just below the hair line. Files was stationed behind the fence on the grassy knoll. He had a peculiar habit at the time. When he discharged the spent casing from the Remington Fireball, which was a single-shot bolt action pistol with a grip and shoulder extension arm and scope, which fired a .222, he bit into the empty brass because he enjoyed the smell and taste of gunpowder. Files then stuck the spent brass between two pickets on the fence. This spent brass was found in the early 80’s about three inches deep in the dirt behind the fence. A forensic dental specialist examined it and declared the teeth marks on the brass were human. James Files is still alive and about 79 years of age. He lives in Illinois. If you look him up on wikipedia they say he’s a liar and a conspiracy theorist. That’s the hallmark of quality, thanks wiki. Read File’s story. It is fascinating. Buy from an independent book seller. Don’t give money to wikipedia or other deep state goons. https://tinyurl.com/55wet5uh

    • Mike Austin November 24, 2021, 9:49 AM

      Dear OneGuy:

      If it was the Mob, then Giancana was indeed behind it. He had worked with the CIA to kill Castro, and he and JFK passed around Marilyn Monroe. Monroe spent the last night of her life in the arms of Giancana. Rumor has it that Bobby showed up in the morning, and helped Giancana put “paid” to her life. Too embarrassing you see for all concerned. Of course, Bobby remained a loose end. He joined Monroe in 1968, probably from the same “disease” that got his brother.

      Some people only play a game if it is for keeps. Giancana was shot to death in 1967 by “persons unknown”. The CIA was certainly pleased by this “stroke of luck”.

  • Andy Texan November 22, 2021, 3:49 PM

    I was in second grade and remember that day like it was yesterday. Used to be a normie disbelieving all the assundry world conspiracies floating out there. Now I believe the conspiracies are all real. It seems obvious with the passage of time that the Kennedys were both murdered by the NWO types assisted by LBJ and CIA.

  • Anne November 22, 2021, 4:17 PM

    My high school sweetheart had been married just 55 days. We lived in Laguna–not far away from where GVL would live many years later.
    My love had a job with the telephone company, but the union had called a strike just several weeks after we were married.

    On November 22, we got on our motorcycle–a machine we thought of as “hot”. We drove that Honda 300 about 40 miles up to the union office to get our “free turkey” from the union.The union hall was giving out free turkeys and we needed this help.

    We were driving back down the Pacific Highway. Somewhere between the slightly urban areas of Huntington Beach and Newport beach there was one traffic light. This area of So. California was not built up. For miles, all we could see to the left was strawberry fields, and green onion fields, etc. It was cold. I had my arms wrapped around my beloved and my face laid against his back as we rolled down that quiet open highway. Surrounded by open fields on one side and the vast rolling Pacifc on the other. No cars, no traffic, no buildings–just the pacific, a clear sky, and the wind.

    Out in the middle of nowhere. We stopped at the red light. The turkey in our back bag. Me with my arms around my love. A car pulled up next to us. Must have been the only other vehicle out there for miles. He rolled down his window and with tears on his cheeks, he said, “they killed Kennedy”. We looked at him not able to really hear what he was saying and not able to comprehend the message.

    When he saw that we did not understand–he put his hand up to his face to cup his words–“they killed ou r president”. The light turned green and he drove ahead. When we got home to the little house in Laguna Beach and turned on the tv we understood the actions of the day. It was not until years later I understood the impact.

    I still see the tide as it was that day– pulling away from the coast and our country–our land of freedom. I hear the noise of the wind and the crashing surf. I still feel the cold. Only today I see what lies ahead. Back then it was just black.

  • Geo November 22, 2021, 4:21 PM

    Mr Rosen’s class, Wagner Junior High School, 76th Street, Manhattan, New York.

    The announcement was made over the school P.A. system and we were all dismissed. Spent the entire weekend glued to our b&w set at home.

    In two short years my mother would pass and my brother and I would be orphaned.

    A period burnt into my memory that has lasted a lifetime.

    Geo

  • Mike Austin November 22, 2021, 5:00 PM

    Kennedy died November 22, 1963. Clive Staples Lewis died November 22, 1963. Aldous Huxley died November 22, 1963.

    • Vanderleun November 22, 2021, 5:10 PM

      And all three by the same magic bullet which remained remarkably whole throughout.

    • Jack November 23, 2021, 8:18 AM

      A secular humanist, a Christian apologist and a promoter of Eastern mysticism all meet in the ether to discuss reality and truth. Between Heaven and Hell – Peter Kreeft. Excellent read.

  • Casey Klahn November 22, 2021, 9:02 PM

    I challenge anyone to shoot a head in a moving car, exspecially with a 22 handgun tricked out with aa stock of any kind. That is some magic shootings! Like in the movies, where bullets just fly on guided strings to their targets. I’d place my money on the best trained shooter (Oswald, I guess, was a Marine).

    Hummmnnn? Scratches head.

    WTH do I know? I had just turned 4, and was traveling over Think-Of-Me Hill, in Aberdeen, WA when my mother was saying that the radio just reported that President Kennedy had been shot. I id have some weird nightmares, such as LBJ getting sworn in, and then shot by bad men who aimed their pistols at the ground and shot at his feet. This was how they did blank shooting on the Red Skelton Show, and so I dreamed of Johnson getting it that way also. Would that that had been true…

    • Dirk November 23, 2021, 6:59 AM

      Casey, I except your challenge, bring YOUR car on down, I’ll provide the .22 and magic bullets. ,,, o yea I’ll need a release of liability from you, might be a few extra holes when I’m done!

      Agree moving targets are tough, shooting is such a perishable skill, if not practicing daily, weekly, things get fuzzy. Only shooting we’re doing is pistol, from the “ Dick Carry “ holsters, like to work on my weak side shooting these days.

      ‘Kennedy ‘I was Seven, I remember, my memory was his funeral went on for weeks, watched very little, had horses and bicycles to ride, multiple creeks needed further exploration. Fish to be caught!

      Hadn’t given much thought as to who killed him. Even back then I sensed, the killing would be covered up.

      • Casey Klahn November 24, 2021, 3:44 AM

        Who trains for head shots on moving vehicles? The CIA? Mobsters??

        I doubt that’s even a skill set in police work.

        FSR, my shooting skills don’t perish that easily. I don’t take the handgun our that frequently, but one time I got angry at the news, and went back to my p_l range (behind the house), and placed six bowling pins at different points of the compass, and at varied ranges from about 3 yards to about 16 yards. I musta been cowboy AF that day, because I kilt all 6, one after the other with zero misses.

        Come to think of it, one of those bowling pins was driving by in a sedan with the top down.

        Oh, I forgot to mention that we name the terrain around here for hunting references, so that hunters can tell stories or guide one another to particular spots. Just adjacent to the bottom of my 29 acres is a feature we call the grassy knoll.

        I spend no time whatsoever thinking about how Kennedy got shot. I’m sorry that did happen; it was some kind of turning point in America. More so than Reagan getting shot, or Ford getting shot at. Or Hillary that one time at the airfield in Kosovo (coughs). Bod Dylan wrote a seminal ballad about the Kennedy assassination. That interests me far more.

        https://youtu.be/3NbQkyvbw18

  • Joe Hughes November 23, 2021, 2:45 AM

    New book, just out. 6 years in the writing. AmazonShamazon, delivers to my door at the cheapest price.
    https://www.amazon.com/JFK-Assassination-Dissected-Analysis-Pathologist/dp/1476685118/ctoc

    • Mike Austin November 23, 2021, 3:37 AM

      Better hope Tom Hyland does not know about this. He will inflict upon you a lecture and a severe tongue lashing, demand you cease your impure thoughts, and then accuse you of financing “deep state goons” from his moral high horse. Amazon is his idée fixe. From that stance he will not be moved, your own life be damned. What Tom wants is more important than what you want.

      Amazon has become to Tom what Emmanuel Goldstein was to Orwell.

      • Tom Hyland November 24, 2021, 6:57 AM

        Amazon is a deep state goon operation and if you don’t believe it, then float on down the Nile. Lots of people know it. Suicide is in the highest numbers among Amazon employees. They get worked to death. You’re a school teacher so you despise getting told. I know your type. Here’s the latest on Amazon together with Microsoft absorbing and tracking everyone who got vaxxed. These corporations are slime and that’s why I don’t give them money. https://tinyurl.com/7w9yefxh

        • Mike Austin November 24, 2021, 6:30 PM

          Tom:

          You wrote that we should cease bickering about Amazon in general and Bezos in particular:

          “Give me a call if you want to talk about it. Writing about this stuff in a public forum is intrusive and probably perceived as rude by others.” That promise did not last long.

          “Amazon is a deep state goon operation and if you don’t believe it, then float on down the Nile.” There you go again: Your favorite phrase is “deep state goon operation”.

          Looks like you could not shut up about it after all. You are weirdly obsessed with Amazon, Bezos and my opinion of them.

          As for “floating down the Nile”: Did that in 1980. Had a cool time.

          “Suicide is in the highest numbers among Amazon employees. They get worked to death.” Forgive me if I do not believe much of what you write. Besides, are Amazon employees forced at gunpoint to work there?

          “You’re a school teacher so you despise getting told. I know your type.” I retired in 2019, something I have made clear many times. And “you know my type”? Good God, the ignorant arrogance! You know nothing about me. Go into my website and get an idea. When you have done one-fifth of what I have done, give me a call.

          Funny that you despise Bezos so much, seeing that you and he will spend Eternity together.

          Could you now just STFU? Stop pestering me. It’s getting more than weird. I don’t want to play any more. For your own well-being, seek professional help before you turn up on some YouTube crime show.

          • Tom Hyland November 25, 2021, 9:42 AM

            I was referring to the embarrassing search for your immortal soul that shouldn’t be discussed in a public forum such as AD. It’s equivalent to cleaning your belly button in public. That’s quite grotesque and people don’t want to listen to you proclaim your religious bias and delusion. If I punctuated most of my comments here with “Om Mane Padme Om” or “Alahu Akbar” it would get really irritating… fast. Knock of your religious crap. There’s no eternity “with” anyone. You think you’re “mike” for all eternity? Forever “mike?” Sounds like Hell to me. I know you’re retired, you keep telling everyone, but you’re still a teacher. You don’t like to get told. I know your type. Jeff Bezos owns Amazon and unfortunate employees there have a high suicide rate. That’s reality. They aren’t forced to work at gunpoint but there’s something deadly happening at the Amazon fulfillment centers world wide. Could be slave labor for all we know. Bezos owns the Washington Post and they just announced that an SUV ran down and killed the unfortunates in the Waukesha Christmas parade. Those deadly SUV’s again. They aren’t going to say it was a homicidal black man. That’s called mind-fuck journalism and another reason to never give a nickel to Bezos. Both Gates & Bezos are collecting all the formally private info from vaxxed victims. You endorse their spooky activities? Keep giving these creeps your money. Your knee jerk reaction when you encounter stuff you don’t like is “seek professional help?” How boring you are. I apologize to AD readers in case they are glancing at this dialog we’re having… but someone has got to tell you to put a cork in it.

  • John the River November 23, 2021, 5:43 AM

    My grandfather died that week. My family noted the assassination but paid it little attention after that.
    Gramp was the most important person in the world to me then. I was grateful that I didn’t have to deal with going to school. Later I felt sorry for the little boy who lost a father. That’s all.

  • Nobody Uno November 23, 2021, 6:35 AM

    I was too young to care. I still don’t care. Adulterers, rapists, baphomet-worshippers, sodomites, etc. a pox on them all. The innocent amongst them they destroy. Look at the current crop – aged far beyond reasonable span yet still ticking – where do they keep the teen virgins they are bleeding and sacrificing for their privileged luxurious lives? I know what awaits them after and I am glad of that assurance.

    • Jack November 23, 2021, 8:53 AM

      I was 13 when Kennedy was killed, living in the Deep South. The adorable Kennedy brothers introduced forced integration, at gunpoint, into Southern schools without regard for anything but their overweening determination to further destroy a segment of the nation that they could not otherwise manage. Much like Lincoln, with his desire to destroy the South because it wanted to be able to conduct its own affairs as a nation of confederated states, these two yankee blue blood Harvard educated thugs ‘fixed’ the South without caring one iota about how much hatred, turmoil and hell it created for the white folks in their sights. Then came Johnson who poured the entire jar of jam on the bread, creating a welfare state that rivals anything like it upon the earth and now nearly every problem that we have today found its nexus in the governments’ myopic interpretation and gross expansion of civil rights, diversity and inclusiveness.

      My grandfather was Roman Catholic and Kennedy’s death upset him but I was too young and unconcerned to realize how much it bothered him. But Southern democrats who had helped elect Kennedy understood not only the negro but what the Kennedy brothers had done to the South and that understanding created a shift from their long standing support of the Democratic Party to the Republican Party.

  • Tom Hyland November 24, 2021, 10:45 PM

    Edward Curtin at the OffGuardian has written the best article I’ve encountered at this 58th year since Kennedy’s assassination. Almost a long read…. a very worth-while summary. Check it out.
    https://off-guardian.org/2021/11/22/president-john-f-kennedy-his-life-and-public-assassination/

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