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Never Forget. Never Forgive. [ Bumped]

“At over 1,000 feet above ground level and on broken window ledges, for how long did these poor souls contemplate that unimaginable fall? The human desire to live and hold on was slowly extinguished by soaring heat, smoke and hopelessness. Eyewitnesses from adjacent towers describe seeing some victims making the sign of the cross before jumping, others victims were seen jumping one after the other, in small groups a few seconds apart perhaps choosing to die together. All of these innocent victims of terrorism should never be forgotten and their families deserve our eternal sympathy and understanding.

“God bless them and God bless The United States of America.”

Alert the Authorities!

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  • Old Codger September 11, 2017, 11:53 AM

    Let’s make sure this video is seen by “W”.

    He is directly responsible for this through both his family and Saudi ties.

    Saudis for the planes; family for the controlled demolition.

    16 years, $2 trillion of US money and 10,000 dead Americans later……

  • Bill in Tennessee September 11, 2017, 12:11 PM

    Never forget? Never forgive? Not a problem…every time I see any reminder of 9-11, I renew my rage against radical muslims in particular, and all muslims in general. I believe a great global war is coming, the muslim world against the West. And I welcome it, even if it ends in nuclear conflagration for those miserable wretches.

  • Scullman September 11, 2017, 12:41 PM

    You’re a stinking traitor piece of crap, Codger.
    A fucked up, 9/11 Truth’er piece of shit.
    If it was possible, I’d wind some det cord around your skanky, dried up neck, set a controlled demolition and ship what’s left to Mecca, where you belong.

  • pbird September 11, 2017, 1:55 PM

    I agree with you Scullman.

  • ghostsniper September 11, 2017, 2:15 PM

    I hope someone ties 3 knots in a length of det cord and jams it in scullmans well used ass.
    Controlled hell.
    Just push the other end in the barrel of an AR and pull the trigger.

    The depth of concentrated retardation in this country is breathtaking.
    Beware the flock you hang with pbird.

  • Scullman September 11, 2017, 2:30 PM

    Fuck you sniper.
    You couldn’t hit a bulls ass with a bucket of rice.
    Phony bullshit artist wannabe soldier.

  • Bunny September 11, 2017, 4:03 PM

    It is neither fucked up nor traitorous to question the official narratives we are spoon fed daily by our lying media and corrupt government. No, not even 9/11 is sacrosanct. Let’s never forget and honor the fallen by discerning the truth, if we can.

  • Scullman September 11, 2017, 4:18 PM

    To say our government was in any way complicit in killing 3000 innocent Americans, detonating the WTC explosion and collapse, which I watched come down with my own eyes standing on the West 18th Street, in which people I knew from Morgan Stanley died, makes you a total and complete retarded fucking asshole and traitor motherfucker.

    Just my opinion, scumbag.
    And you can kiss my ass.

  • ghostsniper September 11, 2017, 6:55 PM

    Bunny is right. Being skeptical of EVERYTHING this rotten assed gov’t is involved in is mandatory.
    Scullass is obviously an easily led drunkard.

  • Terry September 11, 2017, 7:30 PM

    @Scullman-

    Sir, do you also believe that Lee Harvey Oswald assassinated President Kennedy?

    If you survive the drug habit you have, in fifty years or so you will learn a whole bunch of truth regarding the Twin Towers. We all will. You sir, are an imbecile. In my opinion of course.

  • Tom Hyland September 11, 2017, 9:08 PM

    Yeah… it’s been a long day Old Codger… so I kiss you good night and applaud your understanding. There’s a couple of sentimental gullible types who simply believe what they are told, here on this link. I call them believers. They believe what they’re told. I’m a truther. Terry, just above here, asks Skullman if he thinks Oswald did it. Great question. Anybody who believes that one can be dismissed from every discussion of importance ever after. I turned 8 years old when JFK was whacked… and I have been lied to ever since. We all have. The problem is that so many BELIEVE.

  • ghostsniper September 12, 2017, 4:25 AM

    “They believe what they’re told.”
    ======================

    Laziness is their disease, and it’s epidemic these days.
    Far easier to just blob out on the couch and believe what the bobbing heads say than to actually think it through. Especially if they’re habitually drunk or infatuated with mind altering prescription drugs. Useless foot draggers waiting for their gov’t bribe each month. They’ll be in the first wave that is culled.

  • pbird September 12, 2017, 6:28 AM

    Gosh….stop the hate boys.

  • Bunny September 12, 2017, 7:06 AM

    Really, pbird, 100%. I don’t understand why this subject can’t be discussed in a rational manner. Well, yes I do. It threatens everybody’s worldview and some of their most cherished beliefs. It releases a chain of intensely uncomfortable and unsavory questions. It’s political, as well.
    Then comes the ad hominem, inevitably. I was the same in the beginning, i.e., angry at the doubters and it took me a long time to even begin to examine the evidence. I claim no knowledge as to the how or who, but I do dispute the what. Let those that have eyes to see, see. It seems obvious once you allow yourself to really look.

  • Old Codger September 12, 2017, 8:50 AM

    Bunny, I, too, was like you, willing to believe 9-11 was caused by big bad bogeymen from Iraq, as “W” so glibly told us, just as he told us Islam was the “Religion of Peace!”

    But as I watched the aftermath and clean up, I began to wonder : What happened to all of the office equipment and all those bodies? None of which showed up in the collapsed building rubble! It was as if all that simply turned to “dust!” The only whole or even partial bodies recovered, were from the unfortunate “jumpers.” I began to doubt. Then I saw the the YouTube videos of firefighters and others who responded to the scene, asserting they heard the “pop-pop-pop” of consecutive explosions. Were they lying? Then I heard the head of the 9-11 Commission publicly state (again captured on YouTube) that there were “NO WITNESSES who said anything about secondary explosions.” A direct contradiction of the videos and an outright lie!

    All those professional engineers who question the official version of what happened are not ignorant, stupid or illogical (unlike scull, who is likely a paid troll, engaged to feign outrage at those who question the official version).

    Anyone who wants to approach this with an open mind can go to YouTube and view the evidence for themselves. It is chilling.

  • Scullman September 12, 2017, 9:49 AM

    Rather like climate change deniers, 9/11 truthers, like the morons posting here, cherry-pick their evidence and seize any excuse for ignoring the arguments of the vast majority of the relevant experts in the field including the only peer reviewed scientific paper that passed the peer review process. The evidence that planes smashed into the twin towers which triggered a set of events that resulted in their collapse, is overwhelming.
    But all this overwhelming evidence is not enough. Apparently, it’s not sufficient to acknowledge that the Bush administration exploited the attacks on the WTC for their own political ends to begin a war in Iraq, but rather, one must also believe as the morons posting on this site surely do, that it could blast the Pentagon with a cruise missile while persuading over a hundred witnesses that they saw a plane, wire every floor of the Twin Towers where 50,000 people worked every day and 5,000 on the weekend without being discovered, detonate them in a perfectly timed sequence and make Flight 93 disappear into thin air while ensuring that the relatives of the passengers collaborated with the deception.

    And I guess Mohamed Atta and his crew were all signed up by the Bush family, too.

    You assholes deserve each other.

  • Bunny September 12, 2017, 10:15 AM

    A plane did not crash into WTC 7. Start there.

  • Scullman September 12, 2017, 12:55 PM

    “The National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) has released its long-awaited report on the collapse of World Trade 7 following the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. “Our take-home message today is that the reason for the collapse of World Trade Center 7 is no longer a mystery,” NIST lead investigator Shyam Sunder told journalists at this morning’s press conference in Gaithersburg, Md. “WTC 7 collapsed because of fires fueled by office furnishings. It did not collapse from explosives or from diesel fuel fires.”
    “After 7 hours of uncontrolled fires, a steel girder on Floor 13 lost its connection to one of the 81 columns supporting the building. Floor 13 collapsed, beginning a cascade of floor failures to Floor 5. Column 79, no longer supported by a girder, buckled, triggering a rapid succession of structural failures that moved from east to west. All 23 central columns, followed by the exterior columns, failed in what’s known as a “progressive collapse”–that is, local damage that spreads from one structural element to another, eventually resulting in the collapse of the entire structure.”

    Start here, or keep on keeping on with the crap running around your head about the US Government killing thousands of its own citizens for…whatever.

    Actually, sane people don’t give a shit what you think. Get some help.

  • Scullman September 12, 2017, 1:03 PM

    On second thought, don’t even bother with any of what I just related to you.

    You’re right.

    The National Institute of Standards and Technology is owned and operated by the Bush family, Mohamed Atta was adopted by Barbara Bush and hid in Egypt for decades until the plan could come together to hijack jetliners and pretend to smash into buildings. Actually no jets hit the WTC, it was a combination holograph and cruise missile, and all the passengers and crew are all safe on an atoll in the Western Pacific paid for by the Halliburton Corporation.

  • Bunny September 12, 2017, 1:51 PM

    Calm down, you are addressing a straw man. I said I don’t know the how or the who, it’s the what I question.
    Short. Use your eyes.
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Zv7BImVvEyk
    Long. Listen to a former NIST employee.
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RJ_jQgIEnI8
    “The 9/11 Commission was set up to fail.”
    Thomas Kean, 9/12 Commission Chairman
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=Tzrv-e37Es8
    How a narrative is created. “Mostly due to structural failure because the fire was just too intense.”
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-5y8PtfKA14
    You can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make him drink.

  • Howard Nelson September 12, 2017, 4:18 PM

    Honest bunkers, debunkers, buttals, rebuttals, and bonkers will find it worthwhile to ponder the various detailed analyses available via a simple Google search using the search phrase: popular mechanics twin towers collapse report. Or try — twin towers collapse reports.
    Many detailed articles, from many positions, aside from the one from Popular Mechanics.
    As I recollect, a main contributor to collapse of the twin towers was the inadequate insulation system [adopted for its cost-saving design] used for the internal steel structure.

    Better to spend time rebuilding our American culture than picking at the scab of our wounds.

  • Old Codger September 12, 2017, 4:33 PM

    Scullman tries way too hard! Marks him as a troll or a full “believing” idiot! Funny how no other high rise building in the history of the entire world ever collapsed as a result of some weak-ass contents fire, yet Scully believes WTC 7 collapsed from office furniture fires “raging” throughout the building.

    Meanwhile, You Tube videos from that fateful day, fail to show these “raging” fires. LOL ! Scully, you believer fool.

    These are for you (and anybody who wants answers):

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAAveeeVVfM
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYy0anUDL8Y
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUquZrZBddA

  • Scullman September 12, 2017, 6:07 PM

    You’re correct, Bunny Rabbit.
    The U. S. Government slaughtered it’s own people 16 years ago for political and financial gain. Drink it up.

  • Old Codger September 12, 2017, 6:16 PM

    “The U. S. Government slaughtered it’s own people 16 years ago for political and financial gain.”

    Wouldn’t have been the first time……nor the last!

    Now, about that “Gulf OF Tonkin Resolution”….True?…….or as history has shown…FALSE

  • Gordon September 12, 2017, 7:03 PM

    You know, the simple explanation for WTC 7 still stands. Why did they need to bring it down? The two big towers were already dust and twisted girders. WTC 7 collapsed hours later with no one inside. What would be the point of even setting it up for demolition? Every extra person involved, every extra act raises the chances of discovery.

    Buildings are designed to withstand a limited amount of fire. In all three cases, those limits were exceeded, because they could not be contained, reduced and extinguished. I guess I just don’t understand the need to concoct ludicrous conspiracies when the truth is simple and compelling.

  • Old Codger September 13, 2017, 8:49 AM

    Gordon,

    Your ignorance is unbecoming. Of all the highrise buildings ever built, across the entire world and which caught fire, only three have ever been alleged as examples of “collapses” being caused by fires: WTC 1, 2 and 7. NO other highrise building has ever collapsed from fires raging within.

    And those first responders firefighters and police) who combed the wreckage of WTC 1 & 2, were as puzzled as I am, about the lack of bodies, office equipment and even wrecked toilets among the resultant debris! Watch this:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYUYya6bPGw

    Even the vaunted (by scully) NSIT admits it cannot say with certainty what caused WTC 1 & 2 to collapse.

  • Bunny September 13, 2017, 10:16 AM

    Oh, Codger, that video. The families! It breaks my heart. To answer Howard, why keep picking at that scab? Because there can be no justice without truth, and there can be no healing or peace without justice.

  • Chris September 13, 2017, 7:19 PM

    You fucking tards that think the govt executed the 9-11 attacks are so fucking ignorant it beggars belief. It’s obvious you’ve never worked in the govt. because it’s made up of idiots that couldn’t get gainful employment anywhere else. The same govt. you allege committed the 9-11 attacks and have managed to effectively cover it up, can’t balance a budget, can’t eliminate the lines at the DMV, can’t prevent voter fraud, can’t not leak like a fucking sieve, can’t keep a space shuttle flying, can’t maintain control of its of borders, can’t do almost anything without fucking it up. But the one thing that they were able to do in my 50 years on this earth is fake a terrorist attack, kill thousands of people destroy billions of dollars worth of property and do it without anybody spilling the beans.

    You are fucking beyond stupid if you think our govt. could effectively execute the 9-11 attacks with such fucking ease, and without someone squealing like a stuck pig. A govt. is made up of CLOWNS such as yourselves… why do you think they are competent to do this ONE thing and nothing else?

    People like you should be collectively termed wedges. It’s the simplest tool known to mankind. And believe me, you are simple. Occam’s razor would have to be a fucking ballistic missile for you to understand the simple truth. 19 Moslem goat fuckers hijacked airplanes and flew them into buildings. It took the people on flight 93 less than 20 minutes to figure out what the fuck was happening yet years later you fucking dunces think that it was all a conspiracy put together by a govt. run by imbeciles not that much smarter than you.

    You don’t deserve to be called traitors… that would imply that you actually had the smarts to realize what you’re saying. You’re all too fucking stupid for that. Instead the best you should hope for is that you’re just fucking slow and its genetic, so that no actual blame should fall on your parents for not having the fucking smarts to abort your asses when the Dr. reported back that you likely and water on the brain and would be lucky to live a normal life. The sad thing about your particular brand of dumbass is that you are so fucking stupid you don’t realize that it’s better to keep your mouth shut than to reveal the true breadth and depth of your ignorance. But in a way that’s good. it warns the rest of us not to associate with, breed with, or listen to fucktards that are denser than a black hole.

    I would fear for humanity but I realize that yours is a pretty common form of stupidity, and the first really rough patch that we will run into, you’ll be eliminated from the gene pool. You are in effect the cannon fodder of evolution…when it takes a turn for the worse, morons like you will die first so that the sane, thinking populace, can survive on the lesser amount of resources available. In short, you are fucking walking Darwin award winners…. who have yet to pick up their prize.

  • Gordon September 13, 2017, 9:47 PM

    Old Codger,
    Did the Bush family personally haul all of the toilets and office equipment out of hundreds of thousands of square feet of office space the night before the attack? Seriously. Think about this. Of the ten thousand or so who got out of the buildings before they collapsed, don’t you think some of them might have noticed that their desks and chairs were missing before the first plane hit? And who would bother even doing it?

    I kind of doubt this detail. I wasn’t there and I don’t think you were either. But a lot of the stories spread by JFK conspiracists are flat out false. Mark Lane claimed (and many since have repeated it) that nearly everyone in Dealey Plaza heard 4 or more shots. It’s utterly untrue and I’m pretty sure Lane knew it. Virtually every witness reported three shots.

    As for the lack of bodies: this one is definitely false. There was an on-site morgue for the entire excavation. Every bit of human tissue found was documented. There exists plenty of YouTube videos of excavations coming to a halt every time a body was found to be a policeman or fire fighter.

    As for those being the only buildings ever in the history of the world to collapse from fire, I kind of doubt that’s true. But 1 and 2 are the only highrise buildings to suffer an airstrike by a fully fueled commercial jet. The subsequent fuel-fed fires burned without any attempt to extinguish them. Likewise, the fire in WTC 7 also had no attempt made to extinguish it.

    Apply enough heat for long enough, and steel girders lose their tensile strength. They don’t have to melt, just weaken. One floor collapses on the floor beneath. The girders in that floor are now overloaded, and they go. Boom, boom, boom, the floors pancake downward, and as each does, all of the air is forced out. Think about what that would look like. Then watch the videos.

    Yeah, our government has done some nasty stuff. But no one could have pulled off what happened on September 11, 2001. They can’t even pull off deleting Hillary’s emails without leaving tracks everywhere, and that’s trivial in comparison.

  • pbird September 14, 2017, 11:27 AM

    There is no arguing with the strangely named Truthers.

  • ghostsniper September 14, 2017, 11:44 AM

    “…without anybody spilling the beans…”
    ============================

    The fuel that keeps the imbecillac gov’t running like a top is the breathtaking retardation that has taken over the body of the population to where they don’t even notice the giant cauldron of pork and beans that has been dumped right on top of their fat heads, running down their chests and flowing like niagra off their bloated and rancid nutsax. And you have the unmitigated gall to mention the word traitor in your labia laced screed. Crawl back in your fuck hole, greasy troll.

    The worst thing this rotten assed gov’t has done is to hijack the public indoctrination system rendering an entire society incapable of thinking beyond the level of a syphilitic mongoloid with cephalitis, as demonstrated by one (1) Chris.

    My last comment on this thread.
    There is video out there showing the many vacant areas of the WTC being prewired more than a year before the fated event. If you don’t think it’s possible to hide 10 tons of c4 in structures as big as WTC and you don’t have direct hands-on experience with the workings of all forms of demolitions (I do), or training, education, and experience in large scale structural engineering and construction (I do), you have no business running your yap.

  • Bunny September 14, 2017, 1:11 PM

    Chris-“The same govt. you allege committed the 9-11 attacks and have managed to effectively cover it up, can’t balance a budget, can’t eliminate the lines at the DMV, can’t prevent voter fraud, can’t not leak like a fucking sieve, can’t keep a space shuttle flying, can’t maintain control of its of borders…” The government doesn’t WANT to do any of those things. It’s a case of no will, not necessarily incompetence. And anyway, at least for me, so-called Truthers are not alleging the government committed the 9/11 attacks, only that the official narrative makes no sense. I just don’t see how scattered office fires could have caused all the columns of WTC 7 to fail simultaneously, which is what it would take for near perfect symmetrical collapse. My last comment, as well. If you are satisfied with NIST’s explanation, that’s good for you.

  • Eskyman September 14, 2017, 2:53 PM

    I honor these dead. I want justice done, so that their deaths will not be in vain. I blame the Muslims, who have tried before to blow up the Twin Towers but didn’t quite manage it the first time. I also fear that Islam is an ideology of death, that corrupts everyone it contacts. However–

    A few decades ago I discovered that the US gov’t was not above lying when it suited their purpose, and that the US gov’t has committed a lot of foul deeds. Did they do this one? Could they have done this one? If they did, why? I wish I knew!

    Who can believe anything these days without personal knowledge? As shown by the YouTube videos above, there are convincing arguments on all sides. Who is telling the truth, and who is cleverly lying? We all know that we can’t count on the media to research and tell the truth.

    All I thought I knew about JFK’s murder was turned upside down years ago in Australia (of all places) when I took a criminology class where 6 different theories were presented about that occurrence. The only thing they had in common: JFK got killed. But who done it? Mafia/LBJ/Cubans/USSR/CIA/?? All I know now is that the government’s Warren Report was a long exercise in CYA, and is almost certainly wrong in almost every aspect. Did Oswald actually do it, or was he a patsy? Just now I did a DDG search: pages & pages & pages of results. One of them is probably right! Ah; but which?

    Is Obama actually a US citizen? A “natural-born” citizen? A Christian? Or is he a Manchurian candidate that actually got put into office by fraud? I know what I believe, and I can back that up pretty well too; but I cannot convince those who believe he’s God’s right hand man. Facts roll off like water from a duck.

    We could all go on and on. Waco and Ruby Ridge anyone? We are all polarized, all suspicious and paranoid; it’s no longer a joke, they are out to get us. Just ask LaVoy Finicum.

    I haven’t put in the years of study to determine the truth of 9/11. I do know that our government lies to us, that they lie about lying to us, and that the one thing they’re all extremely good at is covering their own asses. In this instance, although I blame the government for many things, I’ll stick with blaming the Muslims.

    After all, they hate us; their damned book tells them to hate us, their insane pedophile “prophet” tells them to hate us, and their whole barbarian savage ideology sets that up so that’s what happens.

    That’s my two bits.

  • Howard Nelson September 14, 2017, 6:21 PM

    In air, jet fuel burns at 1100F +/- 300F. Structural steel loses about 80 % of its 60F strength at 1100F. Temperature weakened steel+ original plane impact damage to structural steel = collapse, perhaps?
    WTC 7 weakend from shocks of collapsed WTC 1 & 2?

  • John The River September 15, 2017, 5:26 PM

    I’ve come to appreciate Disqus commenting system, the ability to block the posts of obstreperous but loud mouthed idiots is something I’ve come to appreciate.

  • Howard Nelson September 15, 2017, 6:35 PM

    The drool of the fool is stirred with the tool of a mule.
    The question is, who’s who who peters out first.
    Never, never give up. When you’re wrong, shout down the opponent who’s also wrong and has the shoe on the other foot — which is quite a feet.
    I’ll have more to say after my hibotomy.

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