WHEN in the course of human Events, it becomes necessary….
2 Versions of The Ambush by Matt Bracken
byVanderleunonJanuary 12, 2020
NOW: Looking at the proposed Virginia rally Matt Bracken warns at Seven And A Wake-Up | Western Rifle Shooters Association Matt Bracken | January 12, 2020 at 11:46 | If anybody cares to check the Richmond Kill Box photo, you will note that the Federal Building is only 2 city blocks from Capitol Square, so all the FBI and ATF agents (including 100s more brought in from out of state for the event) can just walk over to the Buffalo Jump in both their tacticool and undercover garb.
(The Richmond Jail and PD HQ are just out of the top of the image on the other side of I-95.)
Also note that the Richmond Convention Center and Richmond Coliseum are just a few blocks away as well, so if mass-arrests result, they can just march the arrested over for triage and holding while the prison buses are rolled in.
THEN:When word is received that a flash mob is forming at one of their pre-reconnoitered intersections or highway interchanges, the SAV team will assemble. Sometimes cooperating police will pass tactical intel to their civilian friends on the outside. Some clever individuals will have exploited their technical know-how and military experience to build real-time intel collection tools, such as private UAVs. Police will have access to urban security camera footage showing MUYs moving barricade materials into position—a normal prerequisite to a flash mob riot intended to stop traffic. Tip-offs to the vigilantes will be common, and where the networks are still functioning, citizens may still be able to access some video feeds. Sometimes, police will even join the SAV teams, incognito and off-duty, blurring the teams into so-called “death squads.”
The operation I will describe (and it’s only one of dozens that will be tried) uses two ordinary pickup trucks and eight fighters. Two riflemen are lying prone in the back of each truck, facing rearward, with removable canvas covers concealing their presence. Their semi-automatic, scoped rifles are supported at their front ends on bipods for very accurate shooting. A row of protective sandbags a foot high is between them and the raised tailgate.
In the cab are a driver and a spotter in the passenger seat who also serves as the vehicle’s 360-degree security. The two trucks don’t ever appear on the same stretch of road, but coordinate their movements using one-word brevity codes over small FRS walkie-talkie radios. Each truck has a series of predetermined elevated locations where the intersection in question will lie between 200 and 500 yards away. Each truck is totally nondescript and forgettable, the only detail perhaps being the non-MUY ethnicity of the suburbanite driver and spotter driving relatively near to a riot in progress.
By the time the two SAV pickup trucks arrive at their firing positions on different streets and oriented ninety degrees to one another, the flash mob riot is in full swing. A hundred or more of the rampaging youths are posturing and throwing debris into traffic in order to intimidate some cars into stopping. The riflemen in the backs of the pickups are waiting for this moment and know what to expect, trusting their spotters and drivers to give them a good firing lane. The spotters in each truck issue a code word on their radios when they are in final position. The tailgates are swung down, and the leader among the riflemen initiates the firing. All-around security is provided by the driver and spotter.
Lying prone and using their bipods for support, the shooters have five to ten degrees of pan or traverse across the entire intersection. Individual rioters are clearly visible in the shooters’ magnified optical scopes. Each of the four snipers has a plan to shoot from the outside of the mob toward the middle, driving participants into a panicked mass. The left-side shooters start on the left side and work to the middle, engaging targets with rapid fire, about one aimed shot per two seconds. Since the two trucks are set at ninety degrees to one another, very complete coverage will be obtained, even among and between the stopped vehicles.
The result is a turkey shoot. One magazine of thirty aimed shots per rifle is expended in under a minute, a coded cease-fire is called on the walkie-talkies, and the trucks drive away at the speed limit. The canvas covering the truck beds contains the shooters’ spent brass. If the trucks are attacked from medium or close range, the canvas can be thrown back and the two snipers with their semi-automatic rifles or carbines will add their firepower to that of the driver and spotter.
Back at the intersection, complete panic breaks out among the rioters as a great number of bullets have landed in human flesh. Over a score have been killed outright, and many more scream in pain for medical attention they will not receive in time. The sniper ambush stops the flash mob cold in its tracks as the uninjured flee in terror, leaving their erstwhile comrades back on the ground bleeding. The commuters trapped in their vehicles may have an opportunity to escape.
This type of sniper ambush and a hundred variations on the theme will finally accomplish what the police could not: put an end to mobs of violent rioters making the cities through-streets and highways impassible killing zones. Would-be rioters will soon understand it to be suicidal to cluster in easily visible groups and engage in mob violence, as the immediate response could come at any time in the form of aimed fire from hundreds of yards away. Even one rifleman with a scoped semi-auto can break up a medium-sized riot.
Many citizens will take to carrying rifles and carbines in their vehicles, along with their pistols, so that if their cars are trapped in an ambush they will have a chance to fight their way out. If their vehicle is stopped outside the immediate area of the flash mob, they will be able to direct accurate fire at the rioters from a few hundred yards away. Inside the fatal hundred-yard radius, unlucky suburbanite drivers and passengers pulled from their cars will still be brutally violated, but the occurrences of large mob-driven street ambushes will be much less frequent once long-range retaliation becomes a frequent expectation….
Nothing like going and looking for an ass kickin’ and finding it.
Move. the. fuck. out. of. that. state.
Can’t, ya say?
Well, currently they want to steal your stuff, ie., your guns.
Who owns your guns?
You do, right?
What else do you own?
Your life.
Will you let them steal that too?
Where is your line in the sand?
Is it when they make a new law in Richmond?
Or is it when they’re kicking your door in at 3am?
Something to think about.
Oh yeah, apparently a majority of the “voters” chose these tyrants to run your life.
What would you do if you found out your neighbor hired someone to kill you?
Truck driver scratches his crotch, fucks up any shot. No truck bed shooting will be accurate to 200 yrds.
TBH, if the patriot to cuck ratio is high enough, there won’t be any riot. They will use the pen and the gavel to rid these patriots of their rights.
Casey KlahnJanuary 12, 2020, 3:35 PM
In American Sniper they show him using a barrel on it’s side for a platform! A round water or oil drum! FFS.
TerryJanuary 12, 2020, 3:46 PM
From what I have read on various sites, one hell of a lot of people know the address, of every state official in Virginia. And federals as well. I wonder what that is all about . . .
As I have typed before, the whores employed by various .gov agencies best read up on the way the French citizens fixed the problem during the French revolution. Such as, “. . . hung by the ankles while alive and bellies cut open as similar to game preparation . . .” This was a preferred method of getting a message across to the so called “authorities”. They have no authority to confiscate anything from law abiding citizens. They have no authority to create laws that defy the US Constitution.
Do Soros and Bloomberg own Virginia? Does the Deep State own Virginia? We will see in short order.
ghostsniperJanuary 12, 2020, 6:10 PM
“…people know the address, of every state official in Virginia…”
==============
They know more than that.
Suppose just 1 small child of an official disappeared from preschool tomorrow.
Would the authorities shut the whole thing down?
hooodathunkitJanuary 12, 2020, 6:33 PM
Fer chris’ sake, get a f’ing grip, it’s not a chanting mob trying to overthrow law and order.
It’s Lobby Day; the day to lobby legislators. As in the NRA’s ILA, their Institute for Legislative Action. It’s not a protest, not college kids, no masks, etc. Hard to drag a poster into a Senator’s office or meeting room. The biggest age group will be 30-40, and the next largest retired. Many, many active cops, military, and the folks who train, equip and supply LE and defense. It’s a show of voting strength, as always done by thousands of groups across Virginia. It’s just that this one issue is expected to be large; very large.
If gun-nutz can mobilize thousands of themselves into showing up in Richmond, probably tens-of-thousands will mobilize themselves come election day . . . . if the legislature passes the lie of commonsense gun restrictions.
The D-party holds both Delegates and Senate; plus the Executive. But they just took it, and there are a dozen seats in each chamber that were elected with slim margins. If they pass Coonman’s wishlist they lose the House. Period. With a good chance of losing the Senate as well.
So tomorrow is NRA turnout to lobby, and next Monday is the VCDL’s . But the mobilization has been grassroots. VCDL didn’t even know where or when many of the county meetings were, and in several cases showed up after being called by a friend of a friend. NRA was even slower.
John VenletJanuary 13, 2020, 5:36 AM
Ol’ Remus’ advice seems pertinent in regards to what is being considered down in Virginia.
With that said, reading through the comment thread over at WRSA is somewhat akin to war gaming exercises, ya know, attempting to know the knowns, the unknowns, etc., with the exception of noting the constant name calling amongst the commenters has not led to any consensus.
Ghostsniper is on point; get out of Virginia, if you can. I say, embrace being a criminal, you’ll only be a criminal in the eyes of the law, not God. Just because some politicrats pass a law banning this, or that, does not change the fact that the rights you are in possession of are still your rights, and your rights are inalienable. You either own your rights, or you’re simply paying an exorbitant rent. Sure, the state may possibly attempt to stomp on your rights, but standing up for your inalienable rights comes with personal responsibility for said rights. The price may be high, but one has to make a decision, either your inalienable rights are worth paying for, or they are not.
HJanuary 13, 2020, 6:07 AM
Whenever I hear people rattling on about all this Big Igloo stuff, a bit of family history from Old Virginia from what some people quaintly call CW1 comes to mind.
Six brothers.
Two were K.I.A.
Two died of disease in POW camps.
Two got shot up, captured and were in POW camps at war’s end.
I did my time in Viet Nam and have seen a civil war up close.
Are you ready for the Big Igloo? Well all-righty then. May the odds be ever in your favor. Not saying it might not come to that, it might, but just because you aren’t interested in cost accounting, does not mean cost accounting is not interested in you.
Looks like those guys in the photo are setting up shop in the bed of a silver ’05 Toyota Tacoma without the extended cab. It’s the “landscaper special” version. I drive one. A quick search of the states’ DMV could narrow down the possible owners pretty fast. This whole mess in Virginia scares the shit out of me. This could be the fulcrum of a terrible lever. One that could easily move the nation. I doubt if it’s going to move it in the direction of liberty.
On an only slightly unrelated note: yesterday morning I was right in the middle of reading the “Where Wast Thou” post when the power died. It seems a mylar balloon hit the wires and blew out more than one transformer. We went 18 hours with no juice. The outage was limited to my neighborhood. Folks a block away had no trouble. I drove over to the local drug store, and bought some extra batteries for our lanterns. I’ll tell you, it hit me like a bucket of ice water how much of a wake-up call that was. If that outage had been bigger, and lasted longer, it could get scary as hell and it would happen very fast. The whole LA basin survives like a patient on life support. What was that old Boy Scout motto?
JWM
JackJanuary 13, 2020, 8:37 AM
There is no way that this thing in VA is not a gambit of the Left and it will work if the politicians involved in it who were elected and are paid to serve the will of the people sit back thinking they have no personal and physical skin in the game.
All of them, down to the last useless deadbeat assistant, secretary or mail room clerk on their staffs, should be put on notice that each and every one of them are infuriating a huge electorate that will not fail to take whatever skin it desires and that Virginia would do damned well not to permit its useless
politicians to place them in that kind of danger. Lives and property have been lost for much less.
As for moving or relocating, screw that! This our country and these are our homes. Get rid of the thugs that are working to destroy the rights of free men. Make them leave, on their own or otherwise.
AnonJanuary 13, 2020, 9:07 AM
The protestors should be scrupulously honest and law abiding. They should not have any weapons especially assault rifles. They should have their own people filming looking for any outside agitators. They should be aware of the risk that the state may try to harm them and will most surely try to coerce them into breaking laws. The trick is to defeat that effort and come out of the demonstrations looking sympathetic to most Americans.
ghostsniperJanuary 13, 2020, 10:09 AM
“….come out of the demonstrations looking sympathetic to most Americans.”
==========
Do you realize the media isn’t going to let that happen?
It doesn’t matter WHO is carrying the guns because there is the likelihood that the amcoms are going to start shooting and the blame will fall on the patriots.
There is a similar disease starting up here in the state I live in, Indiana. A negro male politician in Indianapolis has initiated a law that is restrictive to (A) legal gun owners. He lives in an area that has been reknown for decades for an extreme amount of violent activity amongst (B) male negro’s using illegal guns. Apparently his idea for dealing with (B) is to make a law that damages (A). Just last night my fellow neighbor – shooter and I were talking about where we might move to if things go hot around here. Southern Argentina has some allure. Maybe we could start a sheep and goat ranch. I would like to see an amendment to the constitution that stipulates that any gov’t employee that ATTEMPTS to violate any of the natural rights of any american citizen will immediately forfeit all property and legal holdings and be imprisoned for a period of 10 years at hard labor.
Rifles are a symbol, a symbol of independence. Whatever weapons the civil war is fought with, it will not be won with rifles.
AnonJanuary 13, 2020, 1:16 PM
Ghost; You choose suicide and then try to justify it by waving the flag. This ISN’T a civil war. If you send a mob into this armed with guns there will probably be an incident that will serve one purpose and one purpose only and that is to discredit the legal gun owners and supporters of the 2nd amendment. It is impossible to control a mob and all that is needed is a few people who want a gunfight to destroy the movement.
Another AnonJanuary 13, 2020, 2:09 PM
Since the RKBA is enshrined in both the US and Virginia constitutions, the sanctuary counties should declare the state government to be in rebellion. Turn the tables and put the onus where it belongs.
ghostsniperJanuary 13, 2020, 5:11 PM
@Anon, I’m not sure why you are addressing me in 1:16PM, since I didn’t say anything about suicide or flag waving. I pretty much said the opposite.
It was Lobby Day #1 in Virginia. Committees in the House of Delegates passed most of the crap to the floor along party-line votes. The ‘assault weapons’ bill was struck though.
Some small progress. No problems such as commie snipers, Richmond Kill Box, false flags, recruitment of a trigger happy psychos, snipers opening fire to kick off the festivities, antifa meth head instigators, Feds dressed up as patriots, or drone strikes. Some people just need to get out more. LOL
Snakepit KansasJanuary 14, 2020, 7:05 PM
Mr. Wilson,
If there is a riot in my neighborhood, it will certainly be defended and won, with a rifle.
Casey KlahnJanuary 14, 2020, 7:59 PM
I feel I must straighten a few out about firearms.
There are handguns, shotguns, carbines, and rifles. These are the categories of personal armaments that go “pew”. The M-4, an AR variant, is issued to our military and police, and is a carbine. It typically is chambered in .22, but high powered.
A rifle is another duck than the carbine. It typically shoots a more authoritative round, has a high muzzle velocity, and greater accuracy at long range. The famous M-1 Garand is a rifle, and Springfield Arms’ current version of it is pretty much a combat rifle with a semi-automatic action. It beats the carbine at LR engagement and in accuracy. If you were a blue-clad Civil War infantry company, employed as a row of skirmishers, and you had carbines such as our current military employs, and you were facing a row of grey clad rebs who had hunting rifles like Remingtons, Brownings, and Springfield Arms, you’d have a helluva fight on your hands and would lose your shit immediately. You’d be engaged at 300 yards or more, and would start falling like flies all before you could return anything close to accurate fire. Fully auto action don’t enter into it; that puts most of the rounds over Johnny Rebs’ heads. Sure, it is a scary volume of fire, but Johnny Reb does not scare that easy. Yes, on paper the M4 can fire out to 500 yrds plus, but that is a perfect day at the range and the group you’ll get at that range would make hits more of a freak accident than a skilled shot. I know you can upgrade Ars. But, you get my point.
Rifle beats carbine, if you know your advantages and fight like a Yank against the redcoats. So, as to the arguments upthread about the rifle: the hell it isn’t a key weapon in an anti-tyranny fight.
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If anybody cares to check the Richmond Kill Box photo, you will note that the Federal Building is only 2 city blocks from Capitol Square, so all the FBI and ATF agents (including 100s more brought in from out of state for the event) can just walk over to the Buffalo Jump in both their tacticool and undercover garb.
When word is received that a flash mob is forming at one of their pre-reconnoitered intersections or highway interchanges, the SAV team will assemble. Sometimes cooperating police will pass tactical intel to their civilian friends on the outside. Some clever individuals will have exploited their technical know-how and military experience to build real-time intel collection tools, such as private UAVs. Police will have access to urban security camera footage showing MUYs moving barricade materials into position—a normal prerequisite to a flash mob riot intended to stop traffic. Tip-offs to the vigilantes will be common, and where the networks are still functioning, citizens may still be able to access some video feeds. Sometimes, police will even join the SAV teams, incognito and off-duty, blurring the teams into so-called “death squads.”
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Nothing like going and looking for an ass kickin’ and finding it.
Move. the. fuck. out. of. that. state.
Can’t, ya say?
Well, currently they want to steal your stuff, ie., your guns.
Who owns your guns?
You do, right?
What else do you own?
Your life.
Will you let them steal that too?
Where is your line in the sand?
Is it when they make a new law in Richmond?
Or is it when they’re kicking your door in at 3am?
Something to think about.
Oh yeah, apparently a majority of the “voters” chose these tyrants to run your life.
What would you do if you found out your neighbor hired someone to kill you?
GVDL:
This post from earlier today will help readers orient in the comment scrum of “7 Days And A Wake-Up”:
https://westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com/2020/01/12/two-on-richmond/
Truck driver scratches his crotch, fucks up any shot. No truck bed shooting will be accurate to 200 yrds.
TBH, if the patriot to cuck ratio is high enough, there won’t be any riot. They will use the pen and the gavel to rid these patriots of their rights.
In American Sniper they show him using a barrel on it’s side for a platform! A round water or oil drum! FFS.
From what I have read on various sites, one hell of a lot of people know the address, of every state official in Virginia. And federals as well. I wonder what that is all about . . .
As I have typed before, the whores employed by various .gov agencies best read up on the way the French citizens fixed the problem during the French revolution. Such as, “. . . hung by the ankles while alive and bellies cut open as similar to game preparation . . .” This was a preferred method of getting a message across to the so called “authorities”. They have no authority to confiscate anything from law abiding citizens. They have no authority to create laws that defy the US Constitution.
Do Soros and Bloomberg own Virginia? Does the Deep State own Virginia? We will see in short order.
“…people know the address, of every state official in Virginia…”
==============
They know more than that.
Suppose just 1 small child of an official disappeared from preschool tomorrow.
Would the authorities shut the whole thing down?
Fer chris’ sake, get a f’ing grip, it’s not a chanting mob trying to overthrow law and order.
It’s Lobby Day; the day to lobby legislators. As in the NRA’s ILA, their Institute for Legislative Action. It’s not a protest, not college kids, no masks, etc. Hard to drag a poster into a Senator’s office or meeting room. The biggest age group will be 30-40, and the next largest retired. Many, many active cops, military, and the folks who train, equip and supply LE and defense. It’s a show of voting strength, as always done by thousands of groups across Virginia. It’s just that this one issue is expected to be large; very large.
If gun-nutz can mobilize thousands of themselves into showing up in Richmond, probably tens-of-thousands will mobilize themselves come election day . . . . if the legislature passes the lie of commonsense gun restrictions.
The D-party holds both Delegates and Senate; plus the Executive. But they just took it, and there are a dozen seats in each chamber that were elected with slim margins. If they pass Coonman’s wishlist they lose the House. Period. With a good chance of losing the Senate as well.
So tomorrow is NRA turnout to lobby, and next Monday is the VCDL’s . But the mobilization has been grassroots. VCDL didn’t even know where or when many of the county meetings were, and in several cases showed up after being called by a friend of a friend. NRA was even slower.
Ol’ Remus’ advice seems pertinent in regards to what is being considered down in Virginia.
With that said, reading through the comment thread over at WRSA is somewhat akin to war gaming exercises, ya know, attempting to know the knowns, the unknowns, etc., with the exception of noting the constant name calling amongst the commenters has not led to any consensus.
Ghostsniper is on point; get out of Virginia, if you can. I say, embrace being a criminal, you’ll only be a criminal in the eyes of the law, not God. Just because some politicrats pass a law banning this, or that, does not change the fact that the rights you are in possession of are still your rights, and your rights are inalienable. You either own your rights, or you’re simply paying an exorbitant rent. Sure, the state may possibly attempt to stomp on your rights, but standing up for your inalienable rights comes with personal responsibility for said rights. The price may be high, but one has to make a decision, either your inalienable rights are worth paying for, or they are not.
Whenever I hear people rattling on about all this Big Igloo stuff, a bit of family history from Old Virginia from what some people quaintly call CW1 comes to mind.
Six brothers.
Two were K.I.A.
Two died of disease in POW camps.
Two got shot up, captured and were in POW camps at war’s end.
I did my time in Viet Nam and have seen a civil war up close.
Are you ready for the Big Igloo? Well all-righty then. May the odds be ever in your favor. Not saying it might not come to that, it might, but just because you aren’t interested in cost accounting, does not mean cost accounting is not interested in you.
Looks like those guys in the photo are setting up shop in the bed of a silver ’05 Toyota Tacoma without the extended cab. It’s the “landscaper special” version. I drive one. A quick search of the states’ DMV could narrow down the possible owners pretty fast. This whole mess in Virginia scares the shit out of me. This could be the fulcrum of a terrible lever. One that could easily move the nation. I doubt if it’s going to move it in the direction of liberty.
On an only slightly unrelated note: yesterday morning I was right in the middle of reading the “Where Wast Thou” post when the power died. It seems a mylar balloon hit the wires and blew out more than one transformer. We went 18 hours with no juice. The outage was limited to my neighborhood. Folks a block away had no trouble. I drove over to the local drug store, and bought some extra batteries for our lanterns. I’ll tell you, it hit me like a bucket of ice water how much of a wake-up call that was. If that outage had been bigger, and lasted longer, it could get scary as hell and it would happen very fast. The whole LA basin survives like a patient on life support. What was that old Boy Scout motto?
JWM
There is no way that this thing in VA is not a gambit of the Left and it will work if the politicians involved in it who were elected and are paid to serve the will of the people sit back thinking they have no personal and physical skin in the game.
All of them, down to the last useless deadbeat assistant, secretary or mail room clerk on their staffs, should be put on notice that each and every one of them are infuriating a huge electorate that will not fail to take whatever skin it desires and that Virginia would do damned well not to permit its useless
politicians to place them in that kind of danger. Lives and property have been lost for much less.
As for moving or relocating, screw that! This our country and these are our homes. Get rid of the thugs that are working to destroy the rights of free men. Make them leave, on their own or otherwise.
The protestors should be scrupulously honest and law abiding. They should not have any weapons especially assault rifles. They should have their own people filming looking for any outside agitators. They should be aware of the risk that the state may try to harm them and will most surely try to coerce them into breaking laws. The trick is to defeat that effort and come out of the demonstrations looking sympathetic to most Americans.
“….come out of the demonstrations looking sympathetic to most Americans.”
==========
Do you realize the media isn’t going to let that happen?
It doesn’t matter WHO is carrying the guns because there is the likelihood that the amcoms are going to start shooting and the blame will fall on the patriots.
There is a similar disease starting up here in the state I live in, Indiana. A negro male politician in Indianapolis has initiated a law that is restrictive to (A) legal gun owners. He lives in an area that has been reknown for decades for an extreme amount of violent activity amongst (B) male negro’s using illegal guns. Apparently his idea for dealing with (B) is to make a law that damages (A). Just last night my fellow neighbor – shooter and I were talking about where we might move to if things go hot around here. Southern Argentina has some allure. Maybe we could start a sheep and goat ranch. I would like to see an amendment to the constitution that stipulates that any gov’t employee that ATTEMPTS to violate any of the natural rights of any american citizen will immediately forfeit all property and legal holdings and be imprisoned for a period of 10 years at hard labor.
Rifles are a symbol, a symbol of independence. Whatever weapons the civil war is fought with, it will not be won with rifles.
Ghost; You choose suicide and then try to justify it by waving the flag. This ISN’T a civil war. If you send a mob into this armed with guns there will probably be an incident that will serve one purpose and one purpose only and that is to discredit the legal gun owners and supporters of the 2nd amendment. It is impossible to control a mob and all that is needed is a few people who want a gunfight to destroy the movement.
Since the RKBA is enshrined in both the US and Virginia constitutions, the sanctuary counties should declare the state government to be in rebellion. Turn the tables and put the onus where it belongs.
@Anon, I’m not sure why you are addressing me in 1:16PM, since I didn’t say anything about suicide or flag waving. I pretty much said the opposite.
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It was Lobby Day #1 in Virginia. Committees in the House of Delegates passed most of the crap to the floor along party-line votes. The ‘assault weapons’ bill was struck though.
Some small progress. No problems such as commie snipers, Richmond Kill Box, false flags, recruitment of a trigger happy psychos, snipers opening fire to kick off the festivities, antifa meth head instigators, Feds dressed up as patriots, or drone strikes. Some people just need to get out more. LOL
Mr. Wilson,
If there is a riot in my neighborhood, it will certainly be defended and won, with a rifle.
I feel I must straighten a few out about firearms.
There are handguns, shotguns, carbines, and rifles. These are the categories of personal armaments that go “pew”. The M-4, an AR variant, is issued to our military and police, and is a carbine. It typically is chambered in .22, but high powered.
A rifle is another duck than the carbine. It typically shoots a more authoritative round, has a high muzzle velocity, and greater accuracy at long range. The famous M-1 Garand is a rifle, and Springfield Arms’ current version of it is pretty much a combat rifle with a semi-automatic action. It beats the carbine at LR engagement and in accuracy. If you were a blue-clad Civil War infantry company, employed as a row of skirmishers, and you had carbines such as our current military employs, and you were facing a row of grey clad rebs who had hunting rifles like Remingtons, Brownings, and Springfield Arms, you’d have a helluva fight on your hands and would lose your shit immediately. You’d be engaged at 300 yards or more, and would start falling like flies all before you could return anything close to accurate fire. Fully auto action don’t enter into it; that puts most of the rounds over Johnny Rebs’ heads. Sure, it is a scary volume of fire, but Johnny Reb does not scare that easy. Yes, on paper the M4 can fire out to 500 yrds plus, but that is a perfect day at the range and the group you’ll get at that range would make hits more of a freak accident than a skilled shot. I know you can upgrade Ars. But, you get my point.
Rifle beats carbine, if you know your advantages and fight like a Yank against the redcoats. So, as to the arguments upthread about the rifle: the hell it isn’t a key weapon in an anti-tyranny fight.
My 2 cents.