WHEN in the course of human Events, it becomes necessary….
Stoner’s R’ Us vs Pot Inc. -or- “When the going gets weird the weird go pro”
byVanderleunonSeptember 8, 2018
Take your eyes off of anything in this culture for a couple of years and the whole landscape changes. Exhibit A: The Legal Marijuana Industry, a rapidly ramped-up business that is unfolding rapidly and with serious capital behind it. Exhibit B: SooperGenius Elon Musk smoking a big big blunt on the radio:
Musk doesn’t look like the smartest guy in the room, here.
ghostsniperSeptember 8, 2018, 5:41 PM
OK, went and looked at the MedMen site and the going rate is in the $10+ per gram range.
28 grams per ounce.
$280 per ounce? Is that what this stuff is going for these days?
How does anyone afford it?
I know inflation and all that but back when I paid $40 for an ounce of redbud and $60 for sensimellia.
No way would I pay $280. ever
FWIW, having done copius amounts of mj, and alcohol, I’ve always found it ludicrous that bars can submerge people in alcohol and turn them loose on the streets but a bag of mj will get your ass thrown in the shitcan for years. It’s probably one of the most ridiculous things this rotten assed gov’t has ever done. Remember when it was legal to drink while driving but illegal to be drunk while driving? Early to mid 80’s was the changeover.
MIKE GUENTERSeptember 8, 2018, 6:10 PM
@GS
Actually, some of the really good stuff used to cost around$400 bucks an oz. Now that it’s legal, the price has come down a lot. DAMHIKT.
VanderleunSeptember 8, 2018, 6:42 PM
The thing to remember is that, these days, one toke and boom that there’s your evening.
Hale AdamsSeptember 8, 2018, 7:46 PM
Gerard,
Is that because the stuff is more potent these days, or we’re no longer 20-somethings?
🙂
Hale Adams
Pikesville, People’s still-mostly-Democratic Republic of Maryland
John A. FlemingSeptember 8, 2018, 8:01 PM
The agronomy of weed is much improved from the hippie-hippie days. They’re professionals now, turning out a high-quality product. The agronomy improvements didn’t come from the well-trodden ag university farming departments, but the clandestine farms, who were forced to produce quality because to avoid detection they couldn’t do quantity. I know a local, a respectable citizen and community leader who is helping the farms that are following all the laws and doing it right, and are being undercut by the guerrilla operations. The state wants its taxes, and is going to come down hard on the scofflaws.
Ghost: Here in CA they had it exactly right before legalization. With the Dr.’s rec you could consistently find decent mid grade bud at $120.- 185. oz. Top shelf would run $280. maybe a little more. But the Doctor’s rec was just enough of a barricade that it kept out most of the riff raff. The shops were cool, clean, and well run. Now they’re gone.
I looked at a shot of a receipt from a “legal” pot shop. The collection of different silly named strains totaled 28 grams, and the charge, with assorted taxes (totaling 45%) ran $560. Not to mention a packaging scheme that uses more plastic than a Subaru, and is guaranteed child proof, senior proof, and will no doubt out last the pyramids. Ecology, and all that, y’ know?
The state of CA, in all its progressive greed just lit a bonfire on the black & gray market weed dealers. It’s open season, and prices are going though the floor. There’s a ‘speakeasy’ style weed shop walking distance from my house. I can get an oz, of good Train Wreck for $100.
My old source can get me private reserve grade bud at $150.
And it’s just as legal to own bootleg weed as it is to own State Approved.
Anyways they allowed Drinking and Driving (not Ethan Coen’s poetry book neither its evocative hard copy cover) and still remnantly have along with CO drive-thru liquor stores. My fav was in Longmont.
Yezh so anyway WY didn’t criminalize open intoxicsnts until after 2000, when I moved to CO.
ghostsniperSeptember 9, 2018, 4:48 AM
“It’s open season, and prices are going though the floor.”
================
As it should be, in a criminalized society. sigh
Once again, the gov’t gets involved and the price goes through the moon, and eventually the quality suffers. And the black market sweeps in and saves the day. I was born in the wrong century.
ghostsniperSeptember 9, 2018, 4:52 AM
“Is that because the stuff is more potent these days, or we’re no longer 20-somethings?”
==================
Both. And neither.
It’s an interweb meme.
I know a couple people right now that are doing the stuff, one here in In and another in Torrance, Calif, and both have told me the quality is no diff than 40 years ago, but the price has increased drastically. Both have long time dealers and get better prices. Back in the 70’s and 80’s sens would wipe my ass across the floor so I don’t see how it could be any “better” than that. Yeah, couple puffs and you’re trashed.
HSeptember 9, 2018, 5:03 AM
I was out in Denver a couple years ago, right after the personal use thing was legalized. Med use had been legal for a while. The people I was meeting with were all a-twitter about what corporate policy was gonna be if somebody tested positive, given the new legal environment.
Anyway, the meeting ended and I went to lunch at some place that was on Diners, Drive Inns and Dives. After ordering, I was looking out the window and noticed a doctor’s office across the street. It had signage unlike any other doctor’s office I’d ever seen. There was a big white sign across the roof that said “Dr. Kahuna” or something like that, and big round signs with green leafs.
I asked the waitress, is that place across the street what I think it is?
It is, she said. You can go in there, get a prescript on the spot and smoke up your whole paycheck without even leaving the parking lot. Then she did a shoulder shrug and eye-roll before leaving to attend to other diners.
Dr. JaySeptember 9, 2018, 5:31 AM
“There is no room in the drug world for amateurs.”- Raoul Duke
Snakepit KansasSeptember 9, 2018, 5:35 AM
Doing drugs would void my security clearance. However unlikely, if I got hurt at work, I’d have to piss in a bottle and it would be bad if it didn’t come up clean.
Some decade plus ago, I used to hunt on a piece of farmland that was largely used for grazing. There was no longer a homestead of regular people operating equipment. The farmers that let me hunt it lived a few miles away on their active farm but were elderly and we would help them slaughter a cow every year, clear trees from the pasture, etc. in exchange for hunting rights. One year I went out to scout this rolling pasture in late summer and came across what looked like a perfect rectangle of pine trees. Probably seven yards long by three yards wide. Took me but a moment to realize what it was. By hunting season it was all gone.
Bow hunting or just scouting, I always at least carry my Glock 17. You never know what you might run into out in the field.
MOTUSSeptember 9, 2018, 6:20 AM
Am I the only one who thinks that in order to “smoke” weed you actually have to inhale it? Elon looks like the dork that Clinton would have us believe he was. Only this guy really doesn’t inhale. Of course it might just be me, what would I know about smoking dope anyway?
Old SurferSeptember 9, 2018, 7:22 AM
I quit buying weed when the price went over $5/oz. I was living in Hawaii and there was no shortage, people were giving away bags of shake that was better than any Mexican I’d ever bought. Neither I or my wife have smoked or drunk in 25 years, but arthritis and other age related disorders have us seriously considering using some of the the high CBD products now on the market. We’ve been to Medmen, and the variety and high tech was mind-boggling. The topicals work and some stuff called QuimRock is pretty amazing.
The high taxes now in effect are going to produce a bootlegger-revenuer situation that may be worse than the war on some drugs. We live in interesting times!
BillHSeptember 9, 2018, 7:42 AM
I wish all this stuff had been legal when I was young. Less competition for the sober cohort, and I might have become something bigger than a lousy aviator. On the other hand, big time success might have killed me before now and I couldn’t watch the great-grand kids grow up.
pbirdSeptember 9, 2018, 7:55 AM
Everybody that I know who still smokes it still buys it from the same person they bought it from before it became “legal”. The stores are too expensive, unless you want drops, cookies or candy or something like that. I have never gone in one of those silly shops.
HarrySeptember 9, 2018, 11:57 AM
Re: quality,
I remember doing two bong hits in 1979. I was finally able to get myself out of the chair in 1982.
Sixty VilleSeptember 9, 2018, 12:18 PM
That’s the only way Musk goes to Mars.
NoriSeptember 9, 2018, 12:31 PM
Iowahawk wins the internet,yet again.
BonesSeptember 9, 2018, 1:20 PM
We used to seize boatloads of BC Bud MJ illegally smuggled from Canada to the PNW. This lovingly tended product had a THC content between 20-25%. I’m told that the old MX weed was about 4% THC. I can’t say for sure about the old stuff, but Ol’ Miss would take samples for their study,
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Where now did I read that Musk just violated terms of his security clearance associated with the SpaceX venture by smoking weed? Dumbass.
Been there, done that. When you get the message you hang up the phone.
Last time I looked it was legal to smoke tobacco.
Or are you the person that sold him the “stuff”?
Dumb ass!
Musk doesn’t look like the smartest guy in the room, here.
OK, went and looked at the MedMen site and the going rate is in the $10+ per gram range.
28 grams per ounce.
$280 per ounce? Is that what this stuff is going for these days?
How does anyone afford it?
I know inflation and all that but back when I paid $40 for an ounce of redbud and $60 for sensimellia.
No way would I pay $280. ever
FWIW, having done copius amounts of mj, and alcohol, I’ve always found it ludicrous that bars can submerge people in alcohol and turn them loose on the streets but a bag of mj will get your ass thrown in the shitcan for years. It’s probably one of the most ridiculous things this rotten assed gov’t has ever done. Remember when it was legal to drink while driving but illegal to be drunk while driving? Early to mid 80’s was the changeover.
@GS
Actually, some of the really good stuff used to cost around$400 bucks an oz. Now that it’s legal, the price has come down a lot. DAMHIKT.
The thing to remember is that, these days, one toke and boom that there’s your evening.
Gerard,
Is that because the stuff is more potent these days, or we’re no longer 20-somethings?
🙂
Hale Adams
Pikesville, People’s still-mostly-Democratic Republic of Maryland
The agronomy of weed is much improved from the hippie-hippie days. They’re professionals now, turning out a high-quality product. The agronomy improvements didn’t come from the well-trodden ag university farming departments, but the clandestine farms, who were forced to produce quality because to avoid detection they couldn’t do quantity. I know a local, a respectable citizen and community leader who is helping the farms that are following all the laws and doing it right, and are being undercut by the guerrilla operations. The state wants its taxes, and is going to come down hard on the scofflaws.
Ghost: Here in CA they had it exactly right before legalization. With the Dr.’s rec you could consistently find decent mid grade bud at $120.- 185. oz. Top shelf would run $280. maybe a little more. But the Doctor’s rec was just enough of a barricade that it kept out most of the riff raff. The shops were cool, clean, and well run. Now they’re gone.
I looked at a shot of a receipt from a “legal” pot shop. The collection of different silly named strains totaled 28 grams, and the charge, with assorted taxes (totaling 45%) ran $560. Not to mention a packaging scheme that uses more plastic than a Subaru, and is guaranteed child proof, senior proof, and will no doubt out last the pyramids. Ecology, and all that, y’ know?
The state of CA, in all its progressive greed just lit a bonfire on the black & gray market weed dealers. It’s open season, and prices are going though the floor. There’s a ‘speakeasy’ style weed shop walking distance from my house. I can get an oz, of good Train Wreck for $100.
My old source can get me private reserve grade bud at $150.
And it’s just as legal to own bootleg weed as it is to own State Approved.
JWM
point of clarification “Lit a bonfire…” The black and gray markets are red hot. It’s too wide spread to stop.
JWM
“Early to mid 80’s was the changeover. ”
Yeah but not in WY.
You care about coal right.
Anyways they allowed Drinking and Driving (not Ethan Coen’s poetry book neither its evocative hard copy cover) and still remnantly have along with CO drive-thru liquor stores. My fav was in Longmont.
Yezh so anyway WY didn’t criminalize open intoxicsnts until after 2000, when I moved to CO.
“It’s open season, and prices are going though the floor.”
================
As it should be, in a criminalized society. sigh
Once again, the gov’t gets involved and the price goes through the moon, and eventually the quality suffers. And the black market sweeps in and saves the day. I was born in the wrong century.
“Is that because the stuff is more potent these days, or we’re no longer 20-somethings?”
==================
Both. And neither.
It’s an interweb meme.
I know a couple people right now that are doing the stuff, one here in In and another in Torrance, Calif, and both have told me the quality is no diff than 40 years ago, but the price has increased drastically. Both have long time dealers and get better prices. Back in the 70’s and 80’s sens would wipe my ass across the floor so I don’t see how it could be any “better” than that. Yeah, couple puffs and you’re trashed.
I was out in Denver a couple years ago, right after the personal use thing was legalized. Med use had been legal for a while. The people I was meeting with were all a-twitter about what corporate policy was gonna be if somebody tested positive, given the new legal environment.
Anyway, the meeting ended and I went to lunch at some place that was on Diners, Drive Inns and Dives. After ordering, I was looking out the window and noticed a doctor’s office across the street. It had signage unlike any other doctor’s office I’d ever seen. There was a big white sign across the roof that said “Dr. Kahuna” or something like that, and big round signs with green leafs.
I asked the waitress, is that place across the street what I think it is?
It is, she said. You can go in there, get a prescript on the spot and smoke up your whole paycheck without even leaving the parking lot. Then she did a shoulder shrug and eye-roll before leaving to attend to other diners.
“There is no room in the drug world for amateurs.”- Raoul Duke
Doing drugs would void my security clearance. However unlikely, if I got hurt at work, I’d have to piss in a bottle and it would be bad if it didn’t come up clean.
Some decade plus ago, I used to hunt on a piece of farmland that was largely used for grazing. There was no longer a homestead of regular people operating equipment. The farmers that let me hunt it lived a few miles away on their active farm but were elderly and we would help them slaughter a cow every year, clear trees from the pasture, etc. in exchange for hunting rights. One year I went out to scout this rolling pasture in late summer and came across what looked like a perfect rectangle of pine trees. Probably seven yards long by three yards wide. Took me but a moment to realize what it was. By hunting season it was all gone.
Bow hunting or just scouting, I always at least carry my Glock 17. You never know what you might run into out in the field.
Am I the only one who thinks that in order to “smoke” weed you actually have to inhale it? Elon looks like the dork that Clinton would have us believe he was. Only this guy really doesn’t inhale. Of course it might just be me, what would I know about smoking dope anyway?
I quit buying weed when the price went over $5/oz. I was living in Hawaii and there was no shortage, people were giving away bags of shake that was better than any Mexican I’d ever bought. Neither I or my wife have smoked or drunk in 25 years, but arthritis and other age related disorders have us seriously considering using some of the the high CBD products now on the market. We’ve been to Medmen, and the variety and high tech was mind-boggling. The topicals work and some stuff called QuimRock is pretty amazing.
The high taxes now in effect are going to produce a bootlegger-revenuer situation that may be worse than the war on some drugs. We live in interesting times!
I wish all this stuff had been legal when I was young. Less competition for the sober cohort, and I might have become something bigger than a lousy aviator. On the other hand, big time success might have killed me before now and I couldn’t watch the great-grand kids grow up.
Everybody that I know who still smokes it still buys it from the same person they bought it from before it became “legal”. The stores are too expensive, unless you want drops, cookies or candy or something like that. I have never gone in one of those silly shops.
Re: quality,
I remember doing two bong hits in 1979. I was finally able to get myself out of the chair in 1982.
That’s the only way Musk goes to Mars.
Iowahawk wins the internet,yet again.
We used to seize boatloads of BC Bud MJ illegally smuggled from Canada to the PNW. This lovingly tended product had a THC content between 20-25%. I’m told that the old MX weed was about 4% THC. I can’t say for sure about the old stuff, but Ol’ Miss would take samples for their study,
https://pharmacy.olemiss.edu/marijuana/potency-monitoring-program/
and give us the results.
Today in fully legal WA state, I can’t say.
In fully legal WA state you can get both kinds…but most is too way strong for me…