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October 26, 2015

Female Rangers: An Insider Speaks on the Record

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SGM Boley didn’t expect any females to make it.
He thought, and still thinks, female Ranger students should have gone through a pipeline before Ranger School: infantry basic, infantry Advanced Individual Training, and then Ranger. He didn’t think it made sense to send females without prior infantry training, and unlike others, he wasn’t sure a female would even make it through RAP Week (Ranger Assessment Phase, a difficult week of physical events at the beginning of the school). But the two female graduates made it through the entire course, upholding the same standards as every other graduate. ォ breachbangclear.com

Posted by gerardvanderleun at October 26, 2015 10:29 AM. This is an entry on the sideblog of American Digest: Check it out.

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I'm not even going to read the article to call bull fuckin shit.

The only people that can believe such a thing are those that haven't a clue as to what Ranger training is about. 90% of the entire US population wouldn't make it through the first day.

Posted by: ghostsniper [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 26, 2015 12:23 PM

It's a strange thing, but no woman has ever appeared in a men's Olympic final, semi-final, quarter final, or qualifying event, ever, not even from countries from which that bar would be low. No woman has ever placed in an open billiard championship. Women even have to have their own venues for billiards. So the Rangers are lying to us about the qualifications of these women, or the Rangers are not elite, in which case they are lying in claiming to being elite.

Posted by: james wilson [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 26, 2015 1:59 PM

"But the two female graduates made it through the entire course, upholding the same standards as every other graduate."

Horse Shit.

Posted by: Dennis Myers [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 26, 2015 2:48 PM

I am so excited!

Two women out of a million. Wow! We are equal in every way after all.

So, they're in good shape. And the point would be....?

Equally thrilling is the fact that one or two men out of a billion can match fabrics, hold an infant, and even talk about their feelings.

Meanwhile, Europe turns into a rubbish pile.

Posted by: Lance de Boyle [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 26, 2015 2:50 PM

I spent my time in the Army and I know how the men's tongues hang out when there's females around. So it goes like this. -

"Tired Honey? I know how gruesome a twenty miler is with full field pack. So you get to ride with me in the ambulance for the next 17 and a half miles."

Posted by: Dennis Myers [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 26, 2015 3:20 PM

OK, I went and read the article.
The author, and I use that title loosely, one so called Mad Duo Chris, should be pistol whipped for the silly way he wrote that retarded article. It is filled with shit you would expect in a 5th grade book report.

Try this, quoting Sergeant Major Boley:
“Since there’s no such thing as an E-10,” he said, “I’m not concerned with being promoted.”, in trying to justify his unbiased opinion of the female Ranger training completers.

Yes, Boley is at the top of his field, which also means he has a lot further to fall, like, all the way back down to E-1, and he knows it. ALL army soldiers know it too, but most civilians probably do not.

The first thing you learn in the army is that there is always somebody with more rank than you and rank is easier taken than it is given.

Boley did as he was told and that silly assed author of the article was too ignorant to know it.

ghostsniper rule #1 for always winning an argument:

"Only debate that which you are a proven expert at."

Neither Boley nor mad max are experts at anything, especially lying. They are enthusiastic novices.

I hope a Boley superior notices how silly he made himself and his superiors appear and deal with his retarded ass accordingly.

Posted by: ghostsniper [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 26, 2015 6:03 PM

If the CIC says "women shall graduate the Ranger course," then women shall graduate the Ranger course. Period. Full stop. They qualified under the same rules and standards? Surely you shit me.

Before you can understand this story, you must understand command and authority. BTW, after this sinks in, believe to the core of your being that America is only as safe as the spine of our leader is strong.

We are the farking rangers, now. How's your marksmanship, brother?

Posted by: Casey Klahn [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 26, 2015 6:26 PM

A bit lengthy but worth it.


"... The General’s Boss most likely told him (Miller) if you want to make three stars, there will be female Ranger graduates! So he Santa Claused them so they would pass. "

Begin forwarded message:
Subject: Letter from an officer who explains how the females passed Ranger School


-------- Forwarded Message --------
This is a letter from an officer who explains how the females passed Ranger School. I give Obama 100% in grading his objective to destroy America.

There isn't a single aspect of our society or government he cannot justifiably claim to have functionally destroyed. Of course, he has tremendous support from the Republicans, but success is success.

My fellow Ranger School graduates have been following the many women who have been trying to graduate from Ranger School since April. If any do, they would be the first.

My article on Ranger School is at http://www.johntreed.com/ranger.html.
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Here is an email exchange sent to the members of the West Point Class of 1969—the class behind me. My comments are in [xxx].


From:
Sent: Sun, Aug 9, 2015 11:03 pm
Subject: Re: usma1969-forum: 10 Days to Graduation

- - I have a friend, retired former SF Battalion Commander who lives in Dahlonega near the Mountain Ranger Camp. I questioned him about what he knew or what his contacts knew about the successes of the women who are now in the Florida Phase of the Ranger Course. Below is the response I received from him. And for those of you who think I am a recalcitrant curmudgeon who hates women in the military, let me set you straight: I have no problem with women going to Ranger School and being awarded the Tab as long as the standards are not changed to allow them to pass when a male student would not pass if he performed identically. In fact, I, and I suspect all other Rangers, would hold in high regard any woman who could actually meet the Ranger Course's exacting and difficult challenges.

Karl, I am in very close contact with the Ranger Camp. The comments below from a Mountain Ranger Course Cadre [Ranger School instructor/grader] are pretty much what has happened.

Bob, When the administration wants something to succeed, they will do anything at all to make it succeed. For those of you who went to Ranger school, I assume that you did nothave a general officer as a lane grader, called a walker these days [the officer who observe you when you lead a patrol and grades you on whether you passed or failed].

When they are social engineering, they make things work regardless of the standards or the consequences because it’s the engineering that’s important. Here's the breakdown: Army wanted 200 of the most badass women from the army, guard, and reserves to start ranger school in April. The deal was they had to pass RTAC to get a slot.

138 women attended several RTAC classes and 20 passed The 20 women were put in their own unit to train exclusively for Ranger school in the months preceding their start date: 1 quit before school started.
19 women started Ranger School in April.
11 failed in the first 3 days: pt test, land, nav, and road march.

All 8 failed patrols and were inserted into Darby, the following class. All 8 failed patrols again. 5 were sent home and 3 were offered day 1 recycles. Nearing the end of their third attempt at Darby, all three had 2 failed patrols, and General Scott Miller (title: movement excellence commander of Ft. Benning) showed up to be their walker. [As far as I know, no officer above the rank of Colonel was ever a walker or lane grader. When I went to Ranger School, I believe the graders were all either NCOs, Captains, or Majors. I do not even believe that any officer associated with the school was a General including the Commandant of the Ranger School. I think he was a LTC or Col.]
With the General along, all three passed. All three advanced to Mountains. Nearing the end of the patrol phase of mountains all three women had failed 2 patrols, so guess who showed up again to be their walker?.... 2 of the three passed, and one has been recycled.

Some of the guys I work with here remember Miller from Delta [Force]. I'm sure that's not what's being reported, but when we first heard a General had walked them, three of them chimed in with "Scotty Miller" in unison.

These women will pass, and probably be honor grads. "Sounds like command interference to me”...[plain old dishonesty to me if they did not earn passing grades]. This does not surprise me. The General’s Boss most likely told him (Miller) if you want to make three stars, there will be female Ranger graduates! So he Santa Claused them so they would pass. Sad times. This PC BS will be the end of us, if it hasn’t already sealed our fate!

Posted by: chasmatic [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 26, 2015 11:14 PM

They are rapacious liars but not very good at it. At a conference table I would shred all their bullshit stories in seconds.

Remember, high level officers are MORE politician than soldier. Also, officers in general have cushions under their asses in everything they do - the NCO's do the real work, it's always been that way.

Finally, even in regular basic training some people get pushed through the system even though they couldn't complete some of the training. It's astonishing how many people cannot get a grip on the "Drill & Ceremonies" part. Simply marching is beyond their capacity.

Regarding the "Marksman" badge for record firing with the M16, it is given out like Journalism degrees at the colleges. 10% fail outright, and another 20% are deficient in 1 or more areas, and only about 50% complete BCT fully competent. The percentages are comparable in the 2nd phase on training, AIT.

This observation is from about 40 years ago so the situation is far worse now. Lying and cheating is the norm at all levels and aspects of the gov't and the base of why I call of it criminal.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2015/08/20/ranger-school-officer-combats-rumors-about-how-women-passed-in-pointed-facebook-post/

Posted by: ghostsniper [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 27, 2015 7:16 AM

NCO's do the real work... Yeah ghost. It's like when some NCO's were arguing about whether sex is work or play. Finally one piped up that sex is definitely play, because if it was work, the officers would have us doing it for them.

Posted by: BillH [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 27, 2015 7:36 AM

The lowered standards will place a lot of good Rangers in danger, being backed up by a female that can't read maps or some such.
The females that "pass" the courses will also be in danger. What I mean to say is not jumping out of trees and eating snakes. The Rangers need medical support, communications techs including flying the killer drones; boots and steel but flying a chopper, not jumping out of one. Med evac too. http://www.sikorsky.com/Pages/Products/Military/BlackHawk/UH-60M/Missions/Medevac.aspx

Posted by: chasmatic [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 27, 2015 8:34 AM

The feminists and the progressives are spitting on the unmatched men like these. And Hillary laughs and claims, "What does it matter". This alone is cause for rebellion.

https://www.google.com/search?q=eisenhower+with+troops+on+d+day&biw=1920&bih=955&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&sqi=2&ved=0CBwQsARqFQoTCMGAj7iP48gCFUJvPgodtacKdg

Posted by: Dennis Myers [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 27, 2015 10:05 AM

Lost in the shuffle is the fact that the women who were Santa Claused did not have the character to fail themselves. I know women who would. This bunch is special.

Posted by: james wilson [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 27, 2015 1:00 PM

I wasn't tough enough to be a Ranger or a Seal or hell, even a Marine but I've always been proud of the fact that I did endure 4 years of the 6th Fleet on a comparatively obsolete aircraft carrier.

The beautiful girl with the flowers in her hair is far more interesting than any of these women who want to be men. I'll pick her.

Posted by: Jack [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 27, 2015 2:53 PM

Ach Jack, smoke and mirrors. The flower girl can't skin a rabbit or disassemble an M4 in the dark. Besides flowers or no flowers I'd be looking for y'know, that 2 square inch section of real estate. That uh, spoonful.

Willy Dixon has this to say:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkWGuMzOJ6I

Posted by: chasmatic [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 27, 2015 9:42 PM

The bottom line is, especially in time of war, the U.S. infantry and the special forces such as the Rangers do not have the time nor the skills necessary to babysit and build separate pink latrines for a cabal of "victimized", whinny women.

Posted by: Dennis Myers [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 28, 2015 7:18 AM

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