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August 23, 2015

Reasons why early Israeli nuclear pre-emption is not only justified but almost mandatory.

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Iran's underground nuclear targets are likely harder than American and Israeli hard-target munition (HTM) developers have assumed. Why?
Because Iranian engineers have perfected the world's toughest concrete, developing mixtures using geopolymers, quartz powders (called fume) and metal and ceramic fibers. The result is hardness levels reportedly up to 50,000-60,000 psi in experimental samples. This means that even shallow “cut and cover” hard targets like the Natanz centrifuge enrichment plant, an armored complex in an excavated pit that is then covered, can resist destruction by the US's most lethal hard-target bomb: the 30,000-lb “Massive Ordnance Penetrator.” Only the B-2 and the B-52 can carry the MOP. Yet while the MOP can penetrate ~200 ft into 5000-psi targets, it only reaches 25 feet into 10,000-psi concrete – and Iranian cement for new or up-armored underground bunkers has likely progressed well beyond that. Articles: Thinking About the Unthinkable: An Israel-Iran Nuclear War

Posted by gerardvanderleun at August 23, 2015 9:57 AM. This is an entry on the sideblog of American Digest: Check it out.

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Well isn't this a cheerful bit of news. So now we can't even effectively nuke the bastards?
holy shit

JWM

Posted by: John M [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 23, 2015 12:05 PM

Think of those underground bunkers as very elaborate tombs. All you have to do is seal the entrances.

Posted by: Fat Man [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 23, 2015 12:49 PM

The Japanese developed and used a very high strength concrete for defenses during WW-II.

The Islamic "scientist" as well as the rest of the Islamic world "think" within the BOX. They cannot reason outside of their mainly stolen/purchased technology, or what Allah commands. Allah is their brain.

Therefore, how much of this technology was supplied by Mr. Obama through his dear friends Valerie Jarrett and John Kerry is my question.

Posted by: Terry [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 23, 2015 1:38 PM

Well JWM We should have nuked the Israel bastards after the USS Liberty.

Posted by: bilejones [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 23, 2015 3:39 PM

"....only reaches 25 feet into 10,000-psi concrete...."

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Well then, drop another one on top of the first one. 25+25=50

What, is there a shortage of bombs or what?

Posted by: ghostsniper [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 23, 2015 7:07 PM

BTW, when something gets harder it gets brittler.

Crack the sky.

Posted by: ghostsniper [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 23, 2015 7:08 PM

Nuked Israel?

no words...

JWM

Posted by: John M [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 23, 2015 7:51 PM

We don't have to break concrete, just people.

Posted by: chasmatic [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 23, 2015 9:37 PM

Israel has apparently decided it is more important to honor a "no first use" pledge with their nuke than protecting the lives of the hundreds of thousands of Jews that will die after an Iranian attack. That's why I've stopped braying about my love for Israel. Israel has spent a decade or more claiming Iran is an existential threat to their survival, but they will not use their 200 sub-launched nuke missiles against Iran. They prefer to attempt sending parts of their tiny air force 200 thousand miles for a 1 time strike that will do little damage against Iran. They, like the US, have the tools to remove Iran from the earth and they, like the US CHOOSE to leave Iran alive to attack them or others.

We can't love Israel enough to overcome their deathwish. Does anyone think NOT nuking Iran means Iran won't nuke Israel, the US, or some other target? The Muslims have made it clear they will generate a nuke war, regardless of what we do. Not nuking them only means Muslims get to destroy non-Muslims in large numbers before we react. If anybody's survival is less important than what others might say about you, you don't deserve to continue.

BTW, had GWB melted Afghanistan, or Saudi Arabia, or Pakistan on Sept 12, 2001 the lesson in Crapistan would have been learned, but instead GWB left this problem to the bureaucrats to use soldiers to send messages. EFF THAT NOISE.

Nuke Iran now!

Posted by: tscottme [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 24, 2015 12:30 AM

The response to the killing of 6 US military contractors in Fallujah on 31 March 2004 was clearly inadequate.

Posted by: Punditarian [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 24, 2015 11:32 AM

Israel is now as it has been many times in the past: standing alone. The US, the Europeans, NATO, Saudi Arabia, all backing down when the going gets real.

They should nuke Iran. The US should nuke Iran.
At this point what do we have to lose?

The rest of the world laughs at us and pisses on our shoes.

Posted by: chasmatic [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 25, 2015 2:14 AM

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