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200.7 million self-identified Whites in the U.S.
37.8 million self-identified Blacks in the U.S.

You do the math.

Even if 8 out of 10 Whities stayed home, a Race War would be a sucker bet for Blacks.

(And I didn't even count the Hispanic and Asian population. Which side do you think they'd support if it came right down to it?)

Conclusion: One should always be careful what one wishes for.

Verbum sapienti...

It doesn't work that way. The Europeans essentially controlled Africa for a century Europeans might have been 1% of the people in Africa.

Colonialism may not be the best example since the Europeans had better technology. But the fact remains, historically the % doesn't decide who rules.

Thems that kin ride fast an' shoot straight rule.

Miscreants of every genre better just stay away for their own good.

Act like a human being and we can get along, act like an animal and you'll be killed.

All of this is self explanatory and those that refuse to acknowledge and adhere to it don't deserve to be using air.

Sigh....

This isn't about blacks vs whites, any more than the French Revolution was about radicals versus normal people. This is about Leftists dividing and conquering and using anybody who feels aggrieved to be the shock troops. What possible difference does it make what the percentages of races are? Radical queers are probably less than 1% of the population, and they control virtually everything that the booboisie eagerly sucks down off the goddam teevy.

White people sittin around muttering about "By God better not mess with ME" is meaningless, no matter how many of 'em indulge themselves and not matter whether they're 100% of their "community." What possible provocation is needed to recognize that the war against normal people is not only engaged but in its latter stages?

It may be meaningless to you, and it should be, but you see, I just don't care about society, community, country. I'm not interested in fixing the world. I'll sit back and watch idiots implode and chuckle while everybody minds everybody else's business, including you.

As long as petty bickering is worthwhile, that is what you'll have.

while everybody minds everybody else's business, including you.

What on earth do you suppose you mean by that?

This isn't about blacks vs whites

With all due respect: you're fooling yourself.

Only White people are stupid enough to believe "This isn't about blacks vs whites". Tell it to this nice, liberal guy. Or these nice White folks.

Like it or not, the shroud of the dark side has fallen; begun, this Race War has.

And in a Race War, your skin color is your uniform.

Too bad only one side is fighting.

For now, anyway...

You want to negotiate your rights, and mine, with terrorists in politician garb.

I wonder what kind of mindfuck can turn a man into that.

Your fears, Rob, are not my chains.

ghost,

Jesus, kid. Stop projecting all that crap on me.

You know absolutely nothing about me, and I guarantee I'm not your father.

And B. Lewis, you oughta get hip to the fact that Lefties are using blacks as cannon fodder in the same way the upper class Republicans are using you.

You guys need to work on your reading comprehension.

The Power Clique uses the twin whips of White Guilt and Black Thuggery to drive American Whites in the direction the Clique wishes us to go (self-hatred, leading to minority status and, in time, genocide) while motivating Whites to tote dat barge an' lif' dat bale so as to keep the plantation in business. I am well aware that America's black population is the inverse Simon Legree that does the actual whipping.

The Power Clique is instigating the Race War. That fact does not change the reality that a Race War exists. When a gang of Negroes drags you out of the car to beat you to death with the claw ends of their hammers, it makes little difference that they are cannon fodder. You are just as dead.

I'd be interested to know how "upper-class Republicans are "using" me. I am a monarchist and reactionary. I'd no more join the Republican Party or support their aims than I'd join HerbaLife.

Your use of the Revolutionary terms left and Right betrays the fact that you still see the world through the lens of Politics As Usual. I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but Politics As Usual is over. This society is far past the point where elections, parties, voting, and daytime talk radio have any real meaning or potency in terms of public policy. When the wheels are coming off the car, it hardly manners if you turn the steering wheel to the right or to the left -- the Crash is coming no matter which direction you favor. The only thing one can do in such a case is to brace for impact.

Left and Right, Republican and Democrat -- that stuff is all over. We are approaching the day when the only options are the ones Lenin wrote about: "Who, Whom?"

They want to make it black/white. Eric Garner's family knows better. At base, as somebody said elsewhere, it's the "centurions" versus the "civilians".

When they came for Eric Garner, I said nothing because I wasn't a lazy, overweight black guy selling loosies.

The cop that took Garner down did it because he knew he could get away with it. The cop who murdered a little kid with a toy gun the other day knew he could get away with it. Last year, the scumbag cop in California who murdered 13-year-old Andy Lopez before the boy had time to drop his toy gun knew he would never face prison for doing what would send you or I away for the rest of our lives.

If they can do it to Brown -- who probably had it coming -- Garner, Andy Lopez, et al, they can do it to us. They can kick in the door of the wrong house, shoot anybody they startle, burn babies with flash-bangs, kill dogs for fun, and never ever face anything other than a few days off with pay.

That's the enemy, and the people behind them, including you who make excuses for the thugs in blue. They are the instigators. They don't care if they instigate riots. It's f**king overtime.

And, I might add, additional funding from the scared suburbanites for more personnel, more Mine Resistant Ambush Protection Vehicles, more body armor, more and more advanced weaponry so if you ever do get tired of it, there won't be a damn thing you can do about.

They think.

I do understand Rob.
People become more fearful as they become older because they are less able to fend for themselves.
It is at that point that their family should take them under their wing as they reverse back into that from which they came, infancy and all it's trappings.

I know only what you tell me so if my replies aren't to your liking consider what you have said.

People mention spelling errors and reading comprehension in frustration.

"If law enforcement continues to treat the citizenry as their enemy they should not be surprised if the citizenry comes to believe them." Remus

On the other hand, if we didn't have police and military it would be kill or be killed and soon quasi-military or vigilante law enforcement would ride around killing each other and anyone got in the way. Soon enough it would reduce down to skin color. The average guy trying to live and work would be at the bottom of the food chain no matter what. Guys like ghostsniper would try to stay away from all the conflict but I assure him the conflict would find him, even if in a random way; and when the dust settled they'd loot his place, stepping over the bodies like ho hum, another day's work.

Watch this video. After you watch the whole thing, be fair, you tell me: if thugs are willing to go up against armed law officers what do you think they would do up against unarmed or innocent-looking folks like us?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=2zyhOW-8Zcc&app=desktop

"...they'd loot his place..."
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Every human being in this country is seconds away from that right now.

The diff between me and most other people is that I recognize the risks that are everywhere and have done my best to safeguard mine from it. No one can ever be 100% safe and I recognize that too. Under no circumstance would I ever ask, let alone demand, that others sacrifice themselves for me or mine, as you see others do all the time.

I prefer my thugs to be honest and most everybody it seems wants something that doesn't exist but they'll settle for dishonest thugs that tell them nice things sometimes.

On the other hand, if we didn't have police and military ...

Yes, Chas, you are right. But the options are not limited to a binary choice between anarchy or a police state.

I know a lot of good cops. Some of them are as much caught up in this as the protesters and spectators. The cops are saying if the thugs want war, we will give them war. The protesters are saying, if the cops are going to get away with killing us, we might as well get what we can while we're at it.

Police officers, in terms of high-risk occupations, are way behind fisherman, farmers, and miners. They usually make the top twenty but rarely crack the top ten. Yet to hear them tell it, it's a miracle if they make it home. Those that are killed on the job are usually killed in traffic-related incidents.

We have to cut back on what these guys are allowed to do to "protect" themselves and on letting them justify brutality and murder in the name of "law and order".

There is for sure an argument to be made against incidents of police brutality. No system is immune from failure. However, the Ferguson shooting and the NY take-down are not such failures. Attack a cop and try to take his weapon, you deserve what you get. Resist arrest and do so at your own peril. I know the laws in NY are confiscatory but the place to protest is not on the street against cops who are doing what we pay them to do. All he had to do was submit. He did that 31 times before and was back on the street selling cigs loosely. Personal responsibility is the term that comes to mind. There are rules, good or bad, but break them and you are liable for the consequences. It seem these days arguments are conflated with events that do not bear the proper nexus. Or, blacks just like to loot and riot.

No, it's not about how a group of people act or even about occasional incidents of brutality that have always happened.

They treat us like subjects. I'm not anybody's subject, and neither are any of the people who have been killed by the police. The job of the police is not summary execution. I do not care how many times someone has committed a crime. He is innocent until proven guilty, and if a lazy, good-for-nothing like Garner isn't, neither are you and I.

Go watch "Adam-12". That's the way police are supposed to act. They want an excuse to act like operators and the rioters are giving it to them. But I am not buying it. I have more in common with the good-for-nothing EBT freeloaders than I do with the government mob's goon squads -- at least in the eyes of the government mobsters and their goons.

They are going to be coming back to you and me for more tax money to get us to pay for our own chains, and all the Ferguson and New York and Berkley crap is going to be what they use to justify it.

With all this complaining about how the cops and the government are taking away all our freedoms, I haven't heard anyone suggest a country elsewhere in the world where life is better.

We have to cut back on what these guys are allowed to do to "protect" themselves No we don't. It is every man for himself and I will Kill anybody I have to ... as soon as I need to. Wouldn't you?

Well this got to the binary position anyway. Yes, there are good cops. When you get the likes of the NYC Mayor who will corrupt the rule of law good cops are handcuffed and the bad boys run amok.

Why are these protests still going on? With the violence and looting? The saying had been said. Where are the 'good cops' enforcing the rule of law, stopping crime and preventing violence? Is there a little touch of corrupting influence interfering somewhere?

Michael Brown got what he deserved. Garner should have been ticketed if they wanted the tax money. And that IS what the story was about in NYC. There was no reason for his take down.

We're going to get more and more of this until either society breaks down or the governmental corruption is crushed. With BIG government, as soon as they finish going after "him", believe, they're coming after "you".

When this gets to the civil war stage (I think it will) it will be a conflagration something on the order of the "Terminator" movies simply because failing to win means extirpation. Now tell me the Left wants to lose.

Even the most nuanced deals come down to a binary decision.

Uncle Letsgo, he had a dream and I recall it here. I edited spelling and grammar but the dream is his: "we remove all stop lights an stop signs, in fact do away with any signs regulating traffic; we do away with all the painted lines in shopping mall parking lots.
No more Big Government telling me what to do, no more compromising so others less worthy than me can get along.
I won't ask anyone else to sacrifice anything for me; I can look after me and mine. Don't need any engineers providing me with electricity, I'll grow my own food and nobody from Big Pharmaceutical is gonna rip me off for medications. Big Oil won't be stealing my money because I can get by without gasoline. I won't need money either, all the banksters in Big Money will not be sucking my blood, I can barter.

In fact, I can be an island unto myself. If I don't buy into Big Society they will never find me.

...I will Kill anybody I have to ... as soon as I need to. Wouldn't you?

Absolutely. Who was Eric Garner threatening? Did Andy Lopez need to be killed?

It may become binary, but it hasn't reached that point yet. Having government doesn't mean having Big Government run by collectivists. Local governments work well enough in some places. Detroit, not so much. Des Moines, not so bad.

With all this complaining about how the cops and the government are taking away all our freedoms, I haven't heard anyone suggest a country elsewhere in the world where life is better.

This is all we've got, I agree. Though friends tell me, if I'll give up my guns, New Zealand is nice.

The name of the game here is Divide and Conquer. Leviathan wants to stay in control and gain more control over all of us: White, Black, young, old, any perceived binary sets.
Sun Tzu, Clausewitz, Machiavelli talk about divide and conquer for good reason. It is an effective way to control populations.

I think there is an element of agents provocateur going on. The background is set from Civil War forward. Enough prejudice to make us feel guilty. More and more the Blacks are demanding and seizing immunity from riots, killings, etc. And non-Blacks are being goaded to react with a massive armed resistance complete with shoot to kill mandated for any Blacks, good and decent or not. At that time SHAZZAM, martial law and crackdown on Whites, firearms, all the redoubts, any militants that are foolish enough to stand and fight. "They let the coons loot and riot and burn, so can we". Oh no no no. All of a sudden police and military will move in. Ferguson would never happen if it was White folks instead of Blacks running around like that.

I agree with that, Chas. You've nailed it.

All are making one huge assumption and that is that the military as a complete unit will suppress a rising up of the American Citizen. The police are ineffective, not trained for asymmetrical warfare.

The most difficult part of the Vietnam War was determining who was the Cong. In Iraq and the Stan, the same chore. Who is the enemy?

Put the Military on American streets and the story becomes the same. How many Americans own BDU's (or what ever they call them now), military gear. How many Americans own weapons, 65 million. OK take a third of them as active individuals and that's more than our standing army. Is the White House going to call in the UN?

Remember the first rule of battle. After first contact, ALL plans go in the shitter.

VW: I agree. The military will be the tip-over point. We'll see how many "Oathkeepers" there are.

4GW, asymmetrical warfare, that'll play holy hell with most troops.

Yes, I believe DC will call in UN troops just as soon as Martial Law is declared.

Let the games begin.

The first thing the administration will do is to raise all E-1 pay, in combat arms units, to $5000.00 per month.

Loyalty can be bought.

And it can be killed.

Ghost, remember that most of the military is now Guard and Reserves. These E-1,2 and 3's have families and they're going to hear from them.

Obama also stupidly RIF'ed a batch of field grade officers with combat experience. That kind of treatment doesn't engender loyalty. His dislike of the military also will have an effect on many of the outfits, which is not to say some will form up and take his orders.

He might call for the UN; I think that Americans would consider that an invasion. A world of hurt would come down on the foreign troops.

VW, I trust nothing about this rotten assed gov't. They will ship soldiers in from the next state over to quell a disturbance to avoid the *family* thing.

One thing you can count on is that nothing can be counted on, and nobody can be trusted because everybody can be bought and/or tortured.

Shipping soldiers from Florida to Louisiana isn't the same as sending Bulgarians to Hungary. We're not a complex of different countries cobbled together like the old USSR.

While the Guard might work to quell a riot, a rising up (use that term instead of revolution) by the population wold be viewed differently.

I think we're going to find out after this BS vote in the House by Boehner. One more step closer.

He might call for the UN; I think that Americans would consider that an invasion. A world of hurt would come down on the foreign troops.VW:

That would be ironic. Our country would be united overnight against a common foe. Hmm, maybe that's what we need, Ming the Merciless attacking our country. Arouse Big Patriotism.

Last Call:
Martin Luther King responded to some militant Blacks urging violence as a means to further their agenda by pointing out that by using violence they would find out what "minority" really means".