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Seven's good for a shotgun.

Error #1 was not shooting the perp in the head. Error #2 was hot shooting the perp in the head a second time.

Seeing how a lot of these attacks on the law abiding public are at night couldn't it be made mandatory that 14 rounds be the correct amount. So that every second shell be a tracer bullet. Just to help the aim in the darker areas of the house.

And that was only a single target.

But trying for the headshot will probably just be a miss.

That is why one goes to the range: Practice.

My bunker protection is the SRM 1216 (http://www.srmarms.com/srm-arms-shotgun-overview/): 16 rounds of semi-auto 12ga home invasion interdiction. It wasn’t cheap, but I’m worth it. Oh, and I have a second 16 round magazine for backup in case my aim is off.

That's why it's a good idea to have something like a .380 weapon around rather than a 9mm. with a .380 you can place exactly where you want the bullet to enter. With a 9mm, to the untrained, it's almost "spray and pray". I'd rather double tap with a .380 to center mass or the head than graze a shoulder with a 9.

Hot Damn, MOTUS! That SRM 1216 is really cool!

I want one.

9 in a 12ga 870 marine magnum is about as good as it gets - a little tactical defense shooting isn't a bad idea either

automatics leave evidence, automatically

@vw, our range is in the back yard

38 Special is a fine round; easy to shoot, plentiful, does the job as long as the shooter does his:

"The hole in his forehead where the bullet went in was about the size of a pencil. The hole in the back of his head where the bullet came out was big enough to put your fist in, if it was a small fist and you wanted to put it there.

"I reckon you could have put your foot in the back of his head where the two barrels of heavy duck load splattered out even if it was a medium-sized foot, and you didn't want to put it there." ~W.S. Burroughs~

Shotgun always good for home defense.

Ghost, here in SC I have to travel close to 100' to my range.

I have several .12ga single and double barrel for hunting and several .20ga too. But for the house I have two short barrel .20ga, both open cylinder one loaded all buck, the other the first load is #5's because I'm nasty. That load is for the face. The next is buck for anyone else coming in behind. No bother with a tactical reload.

The first guy is going with the sheriff but he's not going to ever commit a crime again unless he can figure out how to do it with a red and white cane.

I've been through too much combat to panic at the sight of some bunghole coming at me either armed or not. If he's not, as Will Muny said, "He should have armed himself." Because I'm going to shoot his ass.

In home defense, a pistol of any caliber is good only for you to be able to fight your way to your shotgun.

Do not use double-ought buck - there are too few pellets in the shell (although they are big). Use #4 buck, which has 27 still-decently-large pellets.

SHOTGUN BLUES

Got a PERFECT song for y'all at this link:

http://www.howelldevine.com/music.html

"Shotgun Blues," fourth one down.

Actually, I think you folks would like the whole album.

Enjoy!

I agree shotgun is the way to go. No only is it incredibly intimidating, but you're much less likely to go through a wall and hurt someone you don't mean to. Drawbacks include collateral damage to your home and deafening in small quarters.

Yeah inside everything is loud and at night in the dark, after that first shot you aren't going to see squat.

I don't know how anyone can shoot a 12ga and say such a thing, that is, unless he is not intimately familiar with the construction of an average residential interior wall. It's mostly just 1/2" drywall on either side, a 3-1/2" air space, and a 2x4 stud every 16" or so. A decent .22 cal CO2 powered pellet gun will go all the way thru that stuff. A 12ga w/ 00 buck won't even blink while it's killing everyone on the other side.

Gwan and gitcha one. I think my brand new Remington 870 marine magnum cost about $350 so there's no reason to NOT have one. Hit walmart on the way home and get a couple hundred rounds of #7-1/2 and get out in the backyard and see what it's all about. If you don't hold it very tight against your shoulder you'll only get 1 round off before you call it quits. Them Shoulder-Savers ain't all of that. If you do hold it right you will be hurtin after about 20 rds or so depending. If you're overweight your torso will kill you the next day. Fat, like jello, does funny things when it is subjected to torsional forces.

As far as the deafening...if you're an all american red blooded dood your auditory glands have already been trashed by up close screamin guitars and 100watt amps and classic rock music at sound levels exceeding 120db and vast amounts of HE weapons while supposedly training to defend your homeland in the military.

Ghost is correct. The ballistics of shotgun ammo are that something such as #7 shot, within fifteen, twenty feet the wad is still flying with the group and the group is open maybe six inches. #7 will punch out a big hole at close range.

@VW: yes, I have been in shootouts indoors and it is really awful. My ears are shot and it's true, you get "night blind" real easy. After the first shot actually. The only reason I am alive telling this is because I hit the floor and rolled and scooted around, "seeing" by the muzzle flash. Picking glass shards out of my knees was a small price to pay.

It's #4 buck four times then three 00, all 2 3/4" high brass shells in the TmjUtah Mossberg. Standard velocity loads have much, much less flash than the magnums. Especially out of a 20" barrel.

And the bridge to the shotgun is a pistol, yes. Glock compact with the cheater magazine in at night.

Breaking the spell, how about this early Jimi Hendrix? He's the guitar player closest to the drummer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2wBPix-nmg

Well, like everything else since oshitstain took office, the Remington Model 870 Marine Magnum is now much more expensive than when I bought mine about 10 years ago. According to Bass Pro they are going for $699. Still a good deal in my opinion, I mean, what is your life worth?

http://www.basspro.com/Remington-870-Marine-Magnum-12-Gauge-Shotgun/product/10217919/