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September 15, 2012

"Street toughs are easy to co-opt for different causes, because they have no ideology."

They like fights, they like to storm buildings, some, if not most, are addicted to Tramadol. It’s a great anti-police drug. You don't feel pain. They can beat you to death and you won't feel a thing. They’re calling it the Zombie drug. -- A Continuation of the Revolution? | The Weekly Standard

Posted by Vanderleun at September 15, 2012 8:41 AM. This is an entry on the sideblog of American Digest: Check it out.

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I might have to call BS on the tramadol claim. I took tramadol, and although the bottle had a drowsiness warning, it never made me feel drowsy. Most usually, a prescription that has that warning on it knocks me out. What tramadol does do for me is it stops pain, whether from back spasms or from pinched nerves.
Granted, my situation is anecdotal, but if anyone is addicted to tramadol, they must take a series of huge doses of the stuff.

Posted by: Ogrrre at September 15, 2012 10:52 AM

I took it for migraines. It kills the pain but I doubt the cops can beat you up without you feeling anything. Muhammadans are not supposed to take intoxicants anyway.

Posted by: mjazz at September 15, 2012 12:22 PM

"Muhammadans are not supposed to take intoxicants anyway."

The loophole -and there's always a couple few of those- is that all indiscretions are wiped away if one dies for the cause of Islam.

i.e. Defending 'Islam', killing kāfir, and expanding the territorial dominance of Dar al-Islam.

Posted by: monkeyfan at September 15, 2012 4:49 PM

According to their doctrine, even they will go to hell, to be rescued out of it by allah. A recent fatwa, however, says that if you blow yourself to bits you go directly to heaven.

Posted by: mjazz at September 15, 2012 6:43 PM

High on Tramadol? I don’t think so. I have a lot of personal experience with Tramadol. Indeed I have prescription for it, and a bottle of it in my medicine cabinet.

Tramadol is an opiate derivative. However, it is not nearly as strong as other common opiates such as Hydrocodone (Vicodin). I usually take 100 mg of Tramadol. 100 mg of hydrocodone would put me in the ER. That much tramadol, dulls my lumbar pain, but does not make me high or even woozy.

I seriously doubt that there are large quantities of Tramadol in circulation in the Middle East. The synthesis is not easy. A much more parsimonious guess it that heroin, which can be manufactured in primitive back country labs is being packaged as Tramadol in the ME. I sincerely doubt that there is a medical examiner in Egypt or Gaza who could assay the difference between Tramadol and other opiates. Nor do I think they try very hard to find out.

Posted by: Fat Man at September 15, 2012 7:47 PM

I got high on Ultram when it was prescribed to me.
There have been reports of palestinians using it:
http://tinyurl.com/8wyf7u8
http://tinyurl.com/9dg8zqb

Posted by: mjazz at September 17, 2012 2:47 AM

mjazz: My wife claims that Tylenol puts her to sleep. I don't believe her either.

Posted by: Fat Man at September 17, 2012 2:01 PM

You're probably right. I'm sure the writers decided to make it up.

Posted by: mjazz at September 19, 2012 3:32 PM

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