July 12, 2012
"Sex is the most fun for amateurs"It was homosexual men who pioneered the bonobo lifestyle en masse.
Before today's PUAs were in pre-school, homos were doing it for the numbers, looking for validation, basing their self-worth on how many and how hot. Homosexual men rejected traditional male roles and expectations, and channeled all of their masculine aggression into sex for the sake of sex. Their idea of masculinity became masturbatory -- a pumped up Tom of Finland caricature of masculine form without function or honor or virtue. Homosexual men, because they were men, set the cultural stage for objectifying men the way that men have always objectified women. --Everyone a Harlot
Posted by gerardvanderleun at July 12, 2012 6:31 PM. This is an entry on the sideblog of American Digest: Check it out.
Back in the 50s, I knew a gay man who was also an extremely successful major company executive. He owned a summer home in the little mountain resort town where I lived. He was the first gay man I was ever aware of. I noticed he came on vacation with a different boy friend every summer. They seemed conventional and respectable in every way except they did not keep company with women. At least not for the purpose of sex. He and his boy friends were not interested in committed relationships. They liked the freedom to change partners whenever the mood struck them. Gay men that I happened to become acquainted over the years after that were also very promiscuous and reveled in it.
What happened that changed that attitude? AIDS. It was AIDS. They started dying. Many were young and had no health insurance. Some knew or were in relationships with men who had health insurance through their employment, but they couldn't access it for treatment. That was when gay men began to ask why they couldn't get benefits for their partners. That's when their attitude changed. They began to recognize the wide range of benefits that spouses were eligible for, and that they could not have. They began to feel as if they were deprived or discriminated against. We know where it has led. From the days of no commitment before the 1980s to today's demands for "equality" and "Gay Marriage."
When medical science develops a vaccine against AIDS, I predict that gay men will gradually lose interest in committed relationships and go back to the "good old days" of freedom and promiscuity.
Posted by: Jimmy J. at July 12, 2012 7:53 PM
Promiscuity has penalties; it isn't just a poufter problem as today's young are learning.
One needs to remember that the Gay Population is about 3% or slightly less. All the screaming really was about being forced to change a lifestyle.
Posted by: Peccable at July 13, 2012 4:31 AM
"Sex is the most fun for amateurs"
Perhaps the Latin "Amator" would be a better fit. But then, Sex has become a professional sport in this epoch. ah well.
Posted by: Cond0010 at July 13, 2012 10:42 AM
"Tom of Finland"
Oh great. I googled that and now I've got to temper my good impression of the Finland that won the Winter War and produced Linus Torvalds with the Finland that produced Touko Laaksonen. It's just another country with feet of clay.
Posted by: chuck at July 13, 2012 11:33 AM
When the HIV virus was discovered in the early 80's the Health Department of San Francisco asked that gay bath-houses voluntarily close. They refused.
The Health Dept was forced to board the doors for public safety.
Has medical science ever developed a vaccine to combat a virus?
Posted by: Rocky at July 13, 2012 2:38 PM
Yes, there vaccines for viruses: flu, FIV, polio, etc.
Posted by: chuck at July 13, 2012 3:14 PM
I'm pleased to see you continuing to post this link (3rd time by my count.) It deserves to be widely read.
The takeaway quotes for me are, regarding the recent re-discovery of sport-fucking by young men,
I see what many call game as a kind of gateway masculinity. Game is essentially assertiveness training for a generation of young men who spent most of their lives playing "mother may I?"
And, in re the ultimate futility of Bonobo Culture,
As Hunter S. Thompson noted, sex is the most fun for amateurs. It's great when you're young, pretty, naïve and carefree -- but "old whores don't do much giggling."
Posted by: Rob De Witt at July 13, 2012 8:10 PM
But the take-away word picture of impact is this:
Now everyone wants to be a player and a porn star. Everyone wants to be the kind of monkey that all of the other monkeys wants to rub up against.
Posted by: Joan of Argghh at July 14, 2012 5:43 AM
Bonobo Masturbation Society would be a good band name.
Posted by: SteveS at July 14, 2012 9:03 AM
Finland lost the Winter War; no reserves.
Posted by: Alan Kellogg at July 14, 2012 1:00 PM