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January 17, 2012
You've come a long way, baby
"In the terrifying moments after the giant vessel began to list, fights even broke out to get into the lifeboats. Men refused to prioritise women, expectant mothers and children as they pushed themselves forward to escape."Why, exactly, should any man "prioritise women, expectant mothers and children"? On what grounds can they be reasonably expected to do so, those outdated traditional grounds that the schools teach is hateful, sexist, and bigoted?-- Vox Popoli:
Posted by gerardvanderleun at January 17, 2012 2:25 PM. This is an entry on the sideblog of American Digest: Check it out.
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If it's at all reassuring, I did see a fairly convincing article pointing out that it's not Western Civilization that failed, just the Italians. I hope so, because if an American crew and passengers acted that way it would be beyond shameful.
Posted by: Julie at January 17, 2012 3:21 PM
Will that be what "men" yell out as they shove women out of the way on the dash to the lifeboats?
"I respect equal rights for women! Now get out of the way, sister before I bash your face in!"
Posted by: Mumblix Grumph at January 17, 2012 5:34 PM
It is the precise result the feminists guaranteed themselves when they set out on their quest. I wonder if they will understand their responsibility for it?
Ye, I know. That is a rhetorical question.
Posted by: Fat Man at January 17, 2012 6:05 PM
It shouldn't even have been a men vs. women issue. Any right-thinking human being would favor the weak and infirm - really in this case, children, the elderly (many), and yes, pregnant women - over the hale and hearty. I've read elsewhere that there were young women who stayed behind and made sure that others got off safely before themselves. Had I been on that ship without my family (my husband being the sort of man who wouldn't allow it), I like to think I would have done the same.
It's not just that the crew failed "women and children." It's that they failed at being human. Starting with that POS captain.
Posted by: Julie at January 17, 2012 6:32 PM
I am sure there were quiet displays of chivalry that went unreported. I'm sure there were acts of humanity that went unnoticed. I think the "women and children first" ideal is a myth to begin with.
Posted by: RedCarolina at January 17, 2012 8:39 PM
From Instapundit:
"This is what a feminist looks like."
Posted by: Scott M at January 18, 2012 1:49 AM
I told my daughter when she was in her early 20's, just out of school, all fired up and newly liberated;
"Careful what you wish for sweetheart, real equality for women will, in many ways, be a step down."
Posted by: Shooter1001 at January 18, 2012 7:25 AM
I submit that this is ridiculous. "Women and children first" is a practice exclusive to Northern European civilization. Few other cultures in the world have ever had this idea that women are special and need to be protected at the expense of men -- on the contrary. And in fact the entry further up the sidelines with the quote from Winston Churchill bears this out.
Feminism's effects have sometimes been harmful more than helpful. But let's not start blaming everything on this one ideology. Especially let's not blame the reactions in an emergency of a culture where feminism has barely gained a toenail hold.
Posted by: Andrea Harris at January 18, 2012 10:51 AM
Lileks today sheds a little more light on the culture of the Concordia. Feminism seems to have had little or nothing to do with it.
Posted by: Julie at January 18, 2012 12:38 PM
My own self-respect. It is the one thing that I do own.
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