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August 18, 2011

Defining Deviancy Normal

The American Psychological Association declassified homosexuality as a mental disorder in 1975.
Now, as many sane observers warned at the time, it appears to be looking to do the same for pedophilia.... Advocates of normalizing homosexuality and homogamy argued that their reasoning would not be used to attempt to normalize pedophilia and polygamy. It is worth noting that subsequent events have proven them to be totally incorrect. -- Vox Popoli: In defense of the differently attracted

Posted by Vanderleun at August 18, 2011 7:30 PM. This is an entry on the sideblog of American Digest: Check it out.

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Well now. When they normalize these liaisons between tots and old men, will priests go after their former 'boy' friends and counter-sue? Will the prospect of lowering the legal age of consent to eight years mean that eight year olds will be able to vote? Will they be drafted to fight? I'm sure, that since liquor is quicker, the drinking age will also follow downward on that merry path, too. Will any child who resists the seduction of an adult be accused of pedophobia?
Look at all those bastions of froward-thinking in the Middle East, where 9 year old girls can be legally raped: Following up on that are child suicide bombers, child armies, and later on, raging young men who, having been used and discarded by their tea-drinking indolent elders are waiting for a new crop of bachis to do more of the same to.
We are quickly running out of taboos.

Posted by: Jewel at August 17, 2011 8:22 PM

One is less frequently surprised at what the Left does, day to day and year to year, once one realizes at the heart of Leftism is the demand that all must be broken. Only once everything is broken, all institutions and relationships, only then can the inherent goodness of all mankind bloom.

I'm increasingly frustrated to despair at the vast numbers of people on our conservative side that STILL assume good intentions from our enemies, or more frequently, assume the bad consequences are due to not knowing that unleashing race riots or socialism hasn't worked for good for at least a century, if ever.

What will it take before the people that wish they were living in Mayberry or Mayfield even suspect that people doing the same thing over and over for a century just might have a plan and a destination? Don't be the last Jew on the cattle car to recognize where this train is heading.

Posted by: Scott M at August 18, 2011 2:29 AM

I've been following Vox for awhile. He's one of the best. I read this yesterday. It resonates perfectly with my own often expressed views. I like to say, and I don't know where I got this, that our cultural psychopathology is to make the marginal mainstream and the mainstream marginal. We define deviancy down. VDL has illustrated this many times and could every day as it seems he can't go out his front door without encountering it head on.

Posted by: John Hinds at August 18, 2011 5:38 AM

At least if its not in the shrinks' manual it can't be used in an insanity defense.

Posted by: St. Thor at August 18, 2011 7:55 AM

Everything is fine, just don't bugger my dog.

Posted by: Peccable at August 18, 2011 10:12 AM

I strongly recommend you listen to this episode of NPR's This American Life about the effort to normalize the APA opinion of homosexuality. TAL does a fair job, even though it's NPR.

http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/204/81-words

You see that the APA change was an engineered effort by homosexuals within the APA and their concern was being normal, or defined as normal. They got the "right" "doctors" on the the panel to make the decision, they got the right groups to protest and harrass the holdouts. The effort was about as data-driven and science-based as Al Gore's movie.

TAL also has an awesome explanation series about the mortgage SNAFU. TAL is very much worth listening to, even though it's NPR. They are one of the few shows that don't preach, mention the oppposing view, and just follow the story. Check out their recent episode called "Thug". It's one of the best indictments of liberal social workers I've witnessed. National Review couldn't have done better.

Posted by: Scott M at August 18, 2011 1:37 PM

Mortgage SNAFU shows
http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/355/the-giant-pool-of-money

http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/390/return-to-the-giant-pool-of-money

The widespread adoption of market capitalism made so many people the world over so wealthy, it doubled the amount of money in the world. The holders of that money were seeking safe and lucrative investments. Strong demand for instruments to invest in US mortgages, along with Gov't pressure to give everybody with a pulse a mortgage, created risky investment instruments. The instruments failed and brought down the pain. TAL doesn't exclude the CRA or primaarily blame Wall Street greed, as you might expect of an NPR effort. This American Life and Radio Lab are the best shows you may not know about.

I beg you to listen to a few shows, you will be hooked.

Posted by: Anonymous at August 18, 2011 1:46 PM

Pedophiles should be handled by vigilante justice.

Posted by: cchoate at August 18, 2011 5:06 PM

If they legalize it, and it becomes word of man vs word of child in open court, you will see vigilantism and not any amount of mainstreaming by the media against the pedophobes is going to stop that. There will be no sympathy. What grownups do in private, most of us don't give a damn, but you start licking your greedy chops over our babies, and by god you will see the second amendment out in full force.

Posted by: Jewel at August 18, 2011 6:27 PM

You need to understand the religious basis of Leftism:

"Then, whispered Castro, those first men formed the cult around tall idols which the Great Ones shewed them; idols brought in dim eras from dark stars. That cult would never die till the stars came right again, and the secret priests would take great Cthulhu from His tomb to revive His subjects and resume His rule of earth. The time would be easy to know, for then mankind would have become as the Great Old Ones; free and wild and beyond good and evil, with laws and morals thrown aside and all men shouting and killing and revelling in joy. Then the liberated Old Ones would teach them new ways to shout and kill and revel and enjoy themselves, and all the earth would flame with a holocaust of ecstasy and freedom."

http://dagonbytes.com/thelibrary/lovecraft/thecallofcthulhu.htm

Posted by: Fat Man at August 18, 2011 7:40 PM

You need to understand the religious basis of Leftism:

"Then, whispered Castro, those first men formed the cult around tall idols which the Great Ones shewed them; idols brought in dim eras from dark stars. That cult would never die till the stars came right again, and the secret priests would take great Cthulhu from His tomb to revive His subjects and resume His rule of earth. The time would be easy to know, for then mankind would have become as the Great Old Ones; free and wild and beyond good and evil, with laws and morals thrown aside and all men shouting and killing and revelling in joy. Then the liberated Old Ones would teach them new ways to shout and kill and revel and enjoy themselves, and all the earth would flame with a holocaust of ecstasy and freedom."

http://dagonbytes.com/thelibrary/lovecraft/thecallofcthulhu.htm

Posted by: Fat Man at August 18, 2011 7:42 PM

Even in Maine, Fat Man?

Posted by: Jewel at August 18, 2011 8:38 PM

I like Vox's blurb at the end.

"PPPS - A virus scan, two reboots, and everything is accessible again. "

When 'Science' becomes agenda driven, its no longer science. I hope Western Civilization wakes up to this virus soon.

Posted by: cond0010 at August 18, 2011 10:16 PM

cchoate - Wrong. Just wrong. Vigilantism leads to situations such as the one a few years ago in which someone had his house torched by a mob - because he was a paediatrician.

Jewel - In such a case, the vigilantes ought to be directed at the people who did the decriminalising.

Posted by: Fletcher Christian at August 18, 2011 11:24 PM

Well, then, Fletch, let's consider this: Assassinating rulers is one thing, but how do you find the culprits who normalize these abhorrent behaviors and dispatch them? They are nameless, faceless stirrers. Nope. If the newly normal Namblites come after my kids, I'm killing them.

Posted by: Jewel at August 19, 2011 6:21 AM

Fletcher, you have a sh*t pile more to worry about in Merrie Olde England than knocking off a pedo or two. You're living in a target rich environment of barbarians.

Posted by: Peccable at August 19, 2011 11:00 AM