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How much you bet they don't talk about Ernst Rohm, all the other gay Nazis, or the fact that the Nazi party was started in a gay bar?

I’m slightly confused how this whole “equality” gig is suppose to work…for them that is. They want to be treated as equals…but separately?

Gays have no doubt historically contributed, it’s merely a statistical probability. But why shine the spotlight on them because of who they’ve had sex with? Do we recognize historical contributors by noting also that they were heterosexuals? Of course not. And that’s my point.

Gay marriage is no more the beginning of this crapola than social security, welfare and the like was to the “war on poverty”. It’s a means to an end.

We’re all fucked. I would like it noted I perfer blonde women…doggie style…at night…with the lights on. Go ahead, say it - too much information…ah huh…tell it to them.

Shouldn't gays be offended by this? I guess this proves gay marriage isn't a civil rights issue afterall, but rather a special needs issue.

Good points tim. I don't remember Walt Whitman ever being defined by what he did with his dick.

The irony. The tragicomic irony:

http://billingsgazette.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/article_91a1de93-1d80-5427-852c-0c9efa201985.html

Jewel, The perv was ARRESTED in MONTANA? My how times have changed. In the way back days he'd have been quietly relocated to beyond the beyond.

Don, Walt Whitman will now forever be remembered for what he did with his dick, rather than what he did with his his pen. Equality of the zipper.

Peccable, Whitman wrote extenzively about what he wanted to do with his dick. Complete heterosexual conquest, and a right good read, too.

At least teabagging will finally get some respect.

And now people wonder why many Californians are moving here to TX...

They'll get around to the home schoolers.

How many more contributions could Alan Turing have made if he had not been hounded to suicide by the law and "right-thinking" society?

He's just the most obvious example.

Geesh, Fletch.. cry us a river. Life is hard. Period.

On the positive side, showing that Hamilton and Madison were gay lovers will give the left a reason to actually respect the Constitution.

RedCarolina - Yah. Especially for a free-thinker in Jesusland.

Personally, I don't give a flying **** what other people get up to in the bedroom, as long as it's between consenting adults. IMHO neither should you.

There comes a time when a country is not worth defending.

With the continuation of the direction we're heading, I may join the libtards in saying 'Hey! We don't need a military!' and tell all my friends to stop joining the military of the United States of America.

Not to say I dont believe in a strong military. I do. But I believe in a strong military for a country worth fighting for. Not Sodom and Gomorrah.

Keep it up libtard freaks. There's gonna come a time when I will get the hell outta here - and who'll defend your parade, then? Surely you won't - most of you hate the military anyway.

Gee, Fletch.. who's doing the stereotyping here?

And truthfully - I don't want to know what homosexuals do in the bedroom, they just need to keep it in the fucking bedroom and out of public schools.

You are like guilt-ridden white Obama supporters who believe blacks can't make it on their own, therefore the Tea Party is racist. Conservative homosexuals get it. You don't.

It's a loony logic that believes equality means making victims out of everyone.

Personally, I think gays should be offended by this and quite a few of them are. If that makes me a homophobe, then where do I buy my "Homophobic Flat-Earther On Board" bumper sticker?

Have you spent time in American public schools lately??? I doubt it since your a Brit. I have... and this bullshit program will NOT make kids more accepting of homosexuals. It will make kids afraid to speak out for what they believe.

You are tap-dancing around a fucking slippery slope, Fletch. You need to first, check yourself and then be careful what you wish for because you just might get it. Especially in Europe where free speech and freedom of religion is being hijacked by Muslim extremists who DO consider what homosexuals do in the bedroom their business and will judge it based on Sharia Law.

Like I said.. fucking slippery slope.

RedCarolina; So you don't believe that the example of Alan Turing might be a good illustration of just why it's a bad idea to persecute people because they are different? It all depends on the slant one puts on it, of course.

Sure, Alan Turing's sexuality had nothing to do with his genius. That's sorta the point.

By the way, I am completely opposed to preferential treatment in either direction. My town has a yearly Gay Pride Festival that lasts a week. I can just imagine what would happen to anyone who suggested a Straight Pride Festival that lasted even a day. Similarly, Britain has a Black Police Officers' Association; just imagine a similar one for whites.

There ought to be a very simple message given to schoolkids; "Some people are different from the norm in what they like to do in the bedroom and who they like to do it with. And that has absolutely damn all to do with you, in any way." And by the way, IMHO the misogyny, religious intolerance and homophobia of Muslims ought to be stamped on - hard. But I don't run the UK.

Where we probably disagree is in that I think the same ought to apply to some who call themselves Christians.

"Alan Turing's sexuality had nothing to do with his genius. That's sorta the point."

Well..... when it comes to Turing his sexuality may have had *something* to do with his genius. To say he would have achieved what he did if he had, say, the sexuality of a stone is probably quite inaccurate. The *extent* that his sexuality had when it came to his work probably cannot be quantified but I think it is safe to say it was significant.

Would his modern counterpart want to be treated differently outside the bedroom? I doubt it.

My point is that everyone gets tested and they are the lucky ones who get a chance at life to begin with. If Turing was mentally ill, he was mentally ill. It may or may not have had anything to do with his sexual orientation, but somehow you managed to blame it on American Christians in 2011.

And for the record, there is no norm. Public schools would be better off just treating gay kids the same as everyone else, enforce codes of conduct that apply to everyone and let would-be Alan Turings succeed based on his merit in a very unsympathetic world.

Instead, we have to have these freaking revival meeting programs - I'd say the religious extremists are the public school officials who used public money to promote private thought. Let's celebrate Turing's genius for the sake of his genius, regardless of his skin color or sexual orientation, and especially not for a cheap shot at Christianity. His vulnerability would have lead him to suicide eventually. If anything, you should compare the over-reaching laws of his time to the over-reaching laws of our time. That is the point.

based on his merit, that is.

I assure you, this won't change kids' hearts - and it won't stop kids from calling each other fags and retards. Kids are brutal and always will be. But it isn't kids who are making the choices to force their special interest programs onto schools funded by tax-payers. It's the public employees.. unionized public employees, untouchable, overpaid, Leftist public employees.. who are doing this. If that doesn't piss you off, then I can't help you.

From the love that dare not speak its name, to the love that will not shut up.

"Fletcher Christian: 'Personally, I don't give a flying **** what other people get up to in the bedroom, as long as it's between consenting adults. IMHO neither should you.'"

We can agree on that. Why then should it be the subject of mandated course work.

The guy in the picture looks like the villain off an episode of Hawaii Five-0.

Detective McGarret would have put a stop to all the aids-spreading around.
"Book 'em Danno. Sodomy one."

There is no norm.
Sorry Red, but the Proggy assholes are doing a helluva job looking to persecute and prosecute it.
One cannot fight nothing.

As for Alan Turing, did those esteemed British Public Schools give him his intro to Greek Studies? They seemed to have an odd sub culture after hours.

The general condemnation is aimed at lust - at one time a "deadly sin" but these days seen as a useful mindset to induce in order to capture the attention more fully for the pitch to buy perfume or makeup or clothing or booze or whatever. License is the rule of the day and woe betide any who dares point out that to be truly human is to be poised, controlled and ruled by rational morality formed under the will of God as expressed in commandments given in scripture. That message is now very unpopular and even believers find themselves embarrassed to bring up the subject. Among unbelievers the attitude is either indifference or open hosility to any notion that anything other than their own will be done.

After all, starting with Freud it has become the popular ethos to insist that the free expression of all those "repressed" emotions and urges will liberate us. And those who insist on self-control and a strict morality are only creating a seething mass of conflicting forces in the subconscious that will, sooner or later, erupt in irrational thought and behavior and lead all and sundry to a world of crime, insanity and war. So in order to combat this ancient and completely wrong mindset "self expression" in every human venue must be not just encouraged but celebrated. And the advocates of this new morality are succeeding greatly. You have but to look around and follow current events to see how well they are succeeding. We are living in the sanest, safest culture in history. Aren't we?