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Project Veritas Goes Through a Virus Testing Point

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  • tim March 31, 2020, 9:08 AM

    I guess I should stop listening to the president, the vice president, Dr. Fauci, the CDC, the Surgeon General, etc. and get my pandemic guidelines from Bob, the National Guardsman from the Bronx. Geezus, I feel like an idiot now.

  • Fluella De Vil March 31, 2020, 9:35 AM

    I feel sorry for those guys caught on camera. They’re probably in big trouble now for honestly saying what they see right before their own eyes. The experts couldn’t possibly get anything wrong, like the WHO tweeting the Rona is not transmissible person-to-person.
    https://www.foxnews.com/world/world-health-organization-january-tweet-china-human-transmission-coronavirus
    Or Fauci reporting in the New England Journal of Medicine that “the overall clinical consequences of Covid-19 may ultimately be more akin to those of a severe seasonal influenza (which has a case fatality rate of approximately 0.1%) or a pandemic influenza (similar to those in 1957 and 1968) rather than a disease similar to sSARS or MERS, which had case fatality rates of 9 to 10% and 36% respectively.”
    https://www.lucianne.com/2020/03/27/wow_dr_fauci_in_new_england_journal_ofbrmedicine_concedes_the_coronavirus_mortality_ratebrmay_be_much_closer_to_a_very_bad_flu_30467.html
    Or I could get my information from the CDC and Surgeon General mediated by CBS, who passed off footage from an Italian hospital as being in New York.
    “CBS News Uses Footage of an Overcrowded Italian Hospital as Fake News Video Supposedly of a NYC Hospital”
    Italy
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_J60fQr0GWo&feature=emb_title
    N.Y.C. at 1:20
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QWm0ytokzOI&feature=emb_title
    http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=386590.
    Why give any credence whatsoever to a boots-on-the-ground, eyewitness, fellow citizen?

  • Fluella De Vil March 31, 2020, 9:47 AM

    Or I could have just said scroll on down to “Tweeting tonight, tweeting tonight, tweeting on the old tweetground” at americandigest.org for the CBS fake footage.

  • John Venlet March 31, 2020, 10:57 AM

    Tim, I do not think that the Project Veritas post was meant to compel anyone to ignore President Trump, or the individuals counseling him as he makes decisions in regards to this Kung Flu. O’Keefe was simply providing some front line information from what is allegedly an epicenter of this danged Chinese virus. I think this outside the MSM perspective provided by O’Keefe is information well worth considering.

    Speaking of perspective, in regards to influenza, if we as Americans are to consider the death toll dropped on us by Fauci and Birz; 100,000 to 200,000 deaths from the Kung Flu; if indeed this becomes fact, rather than just an estimate based on computer models mind you, looking at the U.S.A.’s current population of approximately 320,000,000, we are confronted by a percentage death rate of .000625. Granted, 200,00o dead individuals is a large number of individuals, and many bereaved families, but it is hardly an Armageddon worthy number.

    Of even greater interest to us should be comparing this Kung Flu business with the influenza we contend with yearly. If you delve into the CDC data on the 2019 – 2020 influenza season, you’ll find that there have already been 242,330 influenza cases documented by the CDC, though they estimate that there have been over 39 million Americans afflicted by the flu, of which the CDC estimates 24,000 have died.

    Do not lose perspective.

  • tim March 31, 2020, 11:16 AM

    Boots on the ground evidently doesn’t included the doctors and nurses actually caring for the afflicted? Nope, Bob Guardsman says “he’s not sick”, “nothing but the flu”, and yet there he is deployed, keeping things organized for people to get testing…for nothing apparently, just the “flu”.

    And the city’s hospitals are filling up, so much so they needed to bring in the USNS Comfort to deal with the non Chinese Virus cases. For the “flu”.

    But ignore all that, focus on some antidotal journalistic fecal matter by CBS , because…the “flu”
    I hear CNN and MSNBC are also doing some great work. Or Bob.

  • Anonymous March 31, 2020, 11:47 AM

    I don’t think just any old Tom, Dick and Harry doctors are going to going to be interviewed on this topic or any other, only carefully chosen spokesmen. That’s all part of managing the pandemic because perception is reality, as they say. And then there are those HIPAA rules. I’m not in N.Y., so I really can’t say what’s going on there. Except for a few alternative sources, I only know what the major news outlets decide to report.
    https://www.bloombergquint.com/onweb/hospitals-tell-doctors-they-ll-be-fired-if-they-talk-to-press
    But it’s good to know that WHO’s Director General, Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, has welcomed aboard Lady Gaga and her offers of support and strategic assistance in the battle against #COVID19. I know I’m relieved to hear this good news!

  • tim March 31, 2020, 11:51 AM

    John,

    I normally appreciate O’Keffe’s perspective but this one is just plain silly, for many reasons. Looking for front line analysis from someone who clearly doesn’t have any to give should be evident.

    I’m also aware of the flu numbers and why they’re not relevant. The problem with this Chinese Virus isn’t the mortality rate, it’s the infection rate coupled with the severe respiratory symptoms that requires certain amounts of patients to require ventilation. Which overwhelms the hospitals.

    My perspective compels two questions –
    When did NYC ever need to build additional hospital facilities or bring in the USNS Comfort for the flu?

    What would’ve been the total death toll without the measures taken?

    Maybe Bob the Guardsman knows. Or James O’Keefe.

  • Fluella De Vil March 31, 2020, 11:58 AM

    I don’t think we’re going to hear from any old Tom Dick and Harry doctors on this topic or any others, only the carefully chosen spokesmen managing the pandemic. Perception is reality, as the say, and then there are the HIPAA laws to consider. Since I’m not in N.Y., I only know what the major news outlets and a few alternative sources might tell me, so I really can’t say what’s going on there.
    https://www.bloombergquint.com/onweb/hospitals-tell-doctors-they-ll-be-fired-if-they-talk-to-press
    On the bright side, Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, who’s no doctor mind you, has welcomed Lady Gaga aboard the WHO pandemic team to provide support and strategic assistance. I know I’m relieved!

  • John Venlet March 31, 2020, 12:34 PM

    Tim, I appreciate your view in regards this particular O’Keefe video. What good it will do, I do not know.

    When did NYC ever need to build additional hospital facilities or bring in the USNS Comfort for the flu?

    I would wager that during the Spanish Flu in 1918 that although New York may not have built any new hospitals, they in all likelihood turned a number of buildings into Spanish Flu treatment centers. I cannot say for certain, though, because I have not researched it. I don’t think the USNS Comfort existed back in 1918. I do know that Americans had more freedom of movement back in 1918 though.

    What would’ve been the total death toll without the measures taken?

    There is no way that question can be answered.

  • ghostsniper March 31, 2020, 1:13 PM

    Tim sed: “When did NYC ever need to build additional hospital facilities or bring in the USNS Comfort for the flu?”
    ========

    Did you see them with your own eyeballs?
    Not pixels.
    Eyeballs.
    Everything I see in pixels is a goddamned lie until proven otherwise.
    Standard rule around here.
    So far I have no personal and direct knowledge of anything corona virus.
    Just a handful of rumors, mostly from sources that have proven to be questionable in the past.

    My eyeballs are on at least 2 different swivels now, 1 on this virus thing and the other on the dollar thing. I can’t help but think the first is mere distraction from the 2nd. Why? Because the entity behind both is the largest criminal element the world has ever known. I trust nothing about it and believe it is capable of anything.

  • Casey Klahn March 31, 2020, 1:28 PM

    FDV: great comment.

    O’Keefe is just asking questions and there is no compelling reason to either discount, nor lionize, the NG soldiers’ comments. As I was listening, I recognized each soldier as either the layman or the nurse, and nobody was really speaking out of turn. Perhaps calling it “just a flu” is in many ways truer than calling it “deadly pandemic,” although both statements are true to some extent, but no one knows if the qualifiers of these statements are factually correct. I’m not a statistician, although my wife did work a lot with statistics in her medical career. It’s evident that the models being presented to us are not tremendously trustworthy. I wouldn’t want to be one of these models prognosticators. That job sux.

    This is great reporting; much better than the media is providing. I can see and hear with my own senses, on film, what is happening at a critical place in the Chinese Virus event. Push the info outward; enough with the news media. Trump is hammering those bastards and if he weren’t, we’d be so fukn lost and frustrated right now. Give em hell, Trump!

    Of note: today it’s reported that the first military member to succumb to the Chinese Virus is a NJ NG captain, a physician’s assistant. God speed, sir. recall yesterday we saw mayor deblasio shit on the NG with a big stinky turd by calling them “not military.” Fuck him sideways with a fork.

    I’ll say it again here, because it’s not a headline in any newspaper or news site I’ve seen: the us military is going to war-type readiness, in the CONUS. That is a huge story, but strangely crickets chirp in newsrooms. Am I wrong? Has anyone read a headline, front page story to that effect?

    In the information environment we now inhabit, everything requires your personal filter and common sense. Keep your head up.

  • jwm March 31, 2020, 5:08 PM

    This is sort of a re-run of what I posted on the Dylan thread a few days ago. I put up a post on the local next door site excoriating the media for their non-stop fear mongering, and their drumbeat of “Blame Trump”. I made the point of saying we have a flood of information and very little knowledge. Of course I had a few folks respond by telling me how much trust they had in the media, and how brave the TV networks are for telling us the truth. I had another try to pick a fight over the issue, but he turned right around and said the same thing I started with. But this one was a teacher who watched TV intelligently, and made smart decisions because he was intelligent. And a teacher.
    Meanwhile, the ferals are getting sketchy here in So Cal. They’re overwhelmingly tweakers, junkies, and thieves. They get by from scavenging and petty theft. Now, suddenly there’s nothing to scavenge, and nothing to steal. They can’t just go waltzing into the local supermarket and run off with an armful of food. They’re breaking into abandoned storefronts, and camping out where they damn well feel like it. They’re cruising the local Town Centre shopping complex, eyeballing cars, and looking for a snatch & grab. The cops are on it 24/7, but there are more ferals than cops. I’m already tired of living in interesting times. Looks like it’s going to keep getting more interesting as time goes on. Be safe.

    JWM

  • ghostsniper March 31, 2020, 6:24 PM

    No gun and criminals all around? Do this.
    Get a 6′ long hardwood stick. No conifers. Hardwood. Preferably oak.
    It needs to be between 2 and 3 inches in diameter.
    Yes, use a sharp object and make that square or rectangular stick 2-3 inches round, so that it fits comfortable in your hands. No smaller than 2″.
    Make a long point on both ends. The point should be at least 8″ long. capiche?
    Now you need a small hot fire. Make it out of all the shit you cut off the stick.
    When the fire is roaring hold the point just above the yellow part of it and rotate the point all over letting the yellow “temper” the point. It will have a light layer of carbon if done properly. Do both points. Then do the shaft too. It will be too hot to touch so careful. When it has cooled grab a handful of sand and smooth the whole thing down.

    There ya go, a spear that is capable of being thrust clear through a motherfucker.
    Oak is pretty hefty stuff so it will also make a decent club – about 8 lbs worth.
    Now that you know how, make several and locate them in various areas of the crib, ready for action.

    The tempering will make the wood harder but more brittle. Don’t stick it into hard stuff, like other woods or rocks, etc. Tissue and bones will give way instantly under it’s command.

  • Bill Jones April 1, 2020, 1:44 AM
  • ghostsniper April 1, 2020, 7:05 AM

    In the beginning the media claimed there was an explosive monster behind the curtain, a monster most foul.

    A monster so great that it could not even be explained, and it came from a source already shrouded in mystery.

    The media fanned the flames of fear continuously, day in and day out, with up to the minute diesel dumps for effect.

    Constantly stoking the worst of all emotions – fear.

    The sheep were stampeding, directionless, and the sheepdogs sat on the sidelines not knowing how to deal with the mess.

    The monster containing curtain trembled and a sheepdog investigated.

    Then another, and another.

    Soon, a sheepdog pulled the curtain back a little, then a little more.

    Another sheepdog pulled the curtain from the other side.

    The curtain trembled even more.

    Finally the sheepdogs pulled the curtain all the way to the side revealing the horrifying visage of the monster most foul.

    It was a little pink and yellow mouse shaped kitty’s skweeky toy, laying there just like it would lay on your living room floor.

    Now don’t you feel silly?

    What are you gonna do about it?

  • Gordon Scott April 1, 2020, 8:39 AM

    I don’t feel silly at all. And I don’t consult Rachel Maddow for my opinions and conclusions. I’m probably the only person in America that’s never seen a MyPillow commercial, and I own two. That plant Mike Lindell is converting to mask production is 20 miles from me.

    Numbers are slippery. And some folks are treating this stay-at-home thing as a joke. But others aren’t, and I’m not. I have to go out and work, but I have to be careful in hopes I don’t bring it home to my vulnerable wife.

    We will never know how well these actions worked. We can’t because we don’t have a control country of 330 million to compare to. But we have seen what happens when the number of people infected goes out of control. Italy and Spain are both western, first world countries, and they’re overwhelmed. In France the numbers are skewed because they don’t count deaths in old folks’ homes. Numbers are slippery.

    But there is no doubt that New York city and state pooh-pooed the danger. Now they’re screaming for the rest of us to help. They were probably the worst prepared place, and also the most vulnerable, and the leaders behaved stupidly, for political reasons. In a wiser time Cuomo and DeBlasio would be hung from lampposts.

    But Ford is producing thousands of improvised ventilators. GM will also, after some hinkyness. MyPillow is not the only company making masks. Others are making face shields. A good friend of mine sewed hundreds of masks, and delivered them to a maternity ward, because babies aren’t elective. The Corps of Engineers is planning to set up field hospitals all over the US.

    Why bother with that? It’s just flu, right? Except that we are set up to handle a routine flu outbreak. Most of us have some immunity. It doesn’t hit the way this does. Right now in Minnesota there are 56 people needing a hospital. And hooray, the number of new cases per day is steady right now. As one might expect, the cities are the focus, except for one little county down south, where they think one guy spread it around. The little hospital there is overwhelmed.

    And here’s the thing: flu season is about over here. But not coronavirus season, because we don’t have any immunity. This is just beginning. If it operates the way they believe it will, we will have a devastating spring. Then things will slow down, until the fall, when it will rear up again, perhaps worse. This is just the beginning, as wearying as it is.

    The Aussies have a great word for the process of abusing a government program: rort. As in, “they had that free insulation deal, but a bunch of blokes just rorted it.” Will hundreds of millions, perhaps billions, of government dollars be rorted? Yep. But possibly, thousands of companies and millions of families will be held back from the brink by this. It gives people confidence, and that’s damn important.

    I have no doubt that a year from now, people will point to all of this and say, “See, look, it was all an illusion to take your guns and liberties and stuff.” Those people will ignore or belittle the sacrifices that many, many people made to keep this bug from hitting us all at once. For giving us the time to prepare, to manufacture, to ramp up care.

  • James ONeil April 1, 2020, 9:54 AM

    If it’s only the flu why bring in a hospital ship, set up test centers, call out the national guard?
    If it’s only the flu why did our congress critters pass a China virus relief bill including money to the Kennedy Center, criminal aliens, Africa, etc.?

    Why Skippy, simply because they can. Politicians never ever let a crisis go go to waste, even if they have to create the crisis.

    OK, is it only the flu? Why no, it’s not, nor is it the bubonic plague.