January 7, 2016

The Future Is Now: Blade Runner Replicant Roy Batty's Incept date is 8 January 2016

I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.

Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears...in...rain. Time to die.

"Tears in Rain",is a brief monologue delivered by replicant Roy Batty (portrayed by Rutger Hauer) in the Ridley Scott film Blade Runner.
In the documentary Dangerous Days: Making Blade Runner, Hauer, director Ridley Scott, and screenwriter David Peoples asserted that Hauer wrote the "Tears in Rain" speech.
There were earlier versions of the speech in Peoples' draft screenplays; one included the sentence "I rode on the back decks of a blinker and watched C-beams glitter in the dark, near the Tannhäuser Gate". In his autobiography, Hauer said he merely cut the original scripted speech by several lines, adding only "All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain" although the original script, displayed during the documentary, before Hauer's rewrite, does not mention "Tannhäuser Gate":
I have known adventures, seen places you people will never see, I've been Offworld and back...frontiers! I've stood on the back deck of a blinker bound for the Plutition Camps with sweat in my eyes watching the stars fight on the shoulder of Orion. I've felt wind in my hair, riding test boats off the black galaxies and seen an attack fleet burn like a match and disappear. I've seen it...felt it!
Hauer described this as "opera talk" and "hi-tech speech" with no bearing on the rest of the film, so he "put a knife in it" the night before filming, without Scott's knowledge.
In an interview with Dan Jolin, Hauer said that these final lines showed that Batty wanted to "make his mark on existence ... the replicant in the final scene, by dying, shows Deckard what a real man is made of." When Hauer performed the scene, the film crew applauded and some even cried. -- La Wik

Posted by gerardvanderleun at January 7, 2016 7:53 PM
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Is this another "directors cut"? Because the version that has power and truth is Roy speaking directly to Deckard, saying "time to die", and dying. All those fake planets distract from the speech.

And no one has ever addressed my real question about the movie: how does Rachel go from straight hair to curly hair? It's not like she has time to get a perm. She just takes down her hair from that 40s hairdo and sprong!! Curly hair! That should tell you she's a replicant right there

Posted by: Teri Pittman at January 7, 2016 9:08 PM

Inception Date 8Jan2016

With the Crispr Gene Editing becoming a Reality, we are not that far from a Terrell Corporation attempting to 'make' a "more human than human" being.

reason . com/blog/2015/12/21/crispr-gene-editing-is-scientific-breakt

That video is always a fav of mine, Gerard. I am glad you have reasons to share it with us.

---here's one of yours that'll fold in nicely with this post---

www . youtube . com/watch?v=0cm55Hl6g0I

We've tried each spinning space mote
And reckoned its true worth:
Take us back again to the homes of men
On the cool, green hills of Earth.

The arching sky is calling
Spacemen back to their trade.
All hands! Standby! Free falling!
And the lights below us fade.

Out ride the sons of Terra,
Far drives the thundering jet,
Up leaps the race of Earthmen,
Out, far, and onward yet--

We pray for one last landing
On the globe that gave us birth;
Let us rest our eyes on the fleecy skies
And the cool, green hills of Earth.

~Robert A. Heinlein, 1941

Posted by: cond0011 at January 7, 2016 9:38 PM

'If I Forget Thee, O Earth'- A. C. Clarke, 1951

A short story with title adapted from Psalm 137:5.

Posted by: My Shari'a Moor at January 7, 2016 11:53 PM

The light that burns twice as bright burns half as long - and you have burned so very, very brightly, Roy. Look at you: you're the Prodigal Son; you're quite a prize!

Posted by: Og at January 8, 2016 4:06 AM

Ah yes, the Green Hills of Earth. A great poem from the far future.

Posted by: vanderleun at January 8, 2016 7:15 AM

Blade Runner is the movie I sought to purchase first when DVD players became available at reasonable prices. My favorite movie, so far, of all time.
All of us still amongst the living should consider, IMO, what happens in death. All of the emotion, experience, knowledge and wisdom gathered in one life ceases to be. Well, for sure, so far ceases to be available to the rest of us.
My Grandfather, the industrial arts professor, his son, the Aircraft Powerplant Engineer, are no longer with us, and their knowledge and experience, which they tried so hard to pass on to me and siblings, as diminished as it was by my inability as a youth to receive and understand, is the only thing I have left of them.
My own mortality has come close to being extinguished a couple times, and I realize that life has another bookend that is clearly approaching, hopefully a bit into the future.
My Dad died at twice my age, then 32. Since then I have passed the 64 year goalpost several years ago, and tried to understand at 32 how long 'a full life' was. Too fricken short..
Have I made the best of it as Rutger Hauers character, Roy, did with his? Likely not, but that should not stop me from trying to make the best of what is left.
To my mind, Blade Runner had many more 'layers and complexities' than does "Moby Dick", touted by so many Literature "Experts" as having multiple levels and layers. Maybe my experiences since the 1960's have opened my mind to other 'layers'.
Either way, we are all here as renters, and nothing we 'own' will go with us when we leave. To my knowledge...

Posted by: tomw at January 8, 2016 9:42 AM

Can't remember who wrote it, and I may be paraphrasing:

"You know you're getting old when life starts taking more than it gives."

I'm well past that point now.

Posted by: Fuel Filter at January 8, 2016 12:14 PM

When bodymind begins its unwind
And passion and thought no home can find
What's loved in what's now lost
Becomes the seed that blooms, from thawing frost.


Posted by: Howard Nelson at January 8, 2016 3:06 PM

TomW, That's a great, heartfelt, and well considered comment. Thanks.


Posted by: vanderleun at January 8, 2016 4:35 PM

Two thoughts. Roy was not a very nice guy. Remember he was a murderer.
Also, its amazing how many people think its his birthday, not his "conception" day.

Posted by: pbird at January 9, 2016 6:51 PM

Actually, it would be a lot more fascinating if, rather than knowing our "birthday", we could know the details of the day of our conception.

Posted by: vanderleun at January 9, 2016 8:46 PM