June 7, 2012
Something Sobering: "VICE Guide to Karachi: Taliban Neighborhoods, a Massive Landfill, Junkies, Scavengers, and Mystic Crocodiles (Part 4/5)"
"In 2011, more than three times as many people were killed in Karachi than the number of people killed in American drone strikes in the tribal areas. Why does that matter? Because Pakistan matters—whether you’re an American worried about the extremists, an Indian worried about the nukes, or an Afghan worried about Pakistan’s ambitions. Basically, Pakistan is a powder keg, and Karachi is the detonator that could set it all off." -- Suroosh Alvi, co-founder of Vice
Posted by gerardvanderleun at June 7, 2012 7:01 PM
Is there any case for not turning Karachi into radioactive glass?
Whew...good thing this crap hole doesn't have The Bomb!
Maybe we should allow the jihadis a few more attempts to destroy a US city AND then decide we may need to do more than move "destroy our enemy" from agenda item 7 to somewhere in the top 5 items?
This is the type of BS we get when we refuse to act like our country is worth whatever it takes to protect our country. We pay for tens of thousands of nuclear weapons and then we mothball them. We pay for thousands of missile silos and make men live in holes in the ground to launch them, and then we decommission them. We already have the equipment and training to remove Pakistan from the earth and instead we mail them boxes of money and talk while they arm and train the terrorists that kill our soldiers and civilians.
They didn't take over the world, we refused to defend ourselves. If we had melted Afghanistan in Oct 2001 that would serve as a lesson to the rest of the jihadis in Pakistan. Afghanistan was the best place on earth to be turned to glass because it's got a low people count, it's right in the neighborhood of the trouble makers and they were refusing to comply with the most reasonable possible request, "give us the group that caused Sept 11 or cease to exist." Instead we waged a campaign of "nation building" while we waged a quagmire and now we have dead soldiers, defeat, and the jihadis are running Afghanistan. A country that won't kill to protect itself won't be a country forever. Better some random trouble making country in southeast Asia cease to exist than we have another Sept 11 or an airliner is blown up.
The enemy chooses to target civilians, hide among civilians, and wage war. That gives us all the "legal" permission necessary to turn the place into a sterile glass-covered parking lot, if permission was the missing component. What's missing is the desire to win. That's a fatal condition. You can't send messages. You kill or be killed.
"We are an embarrassment to our country. We should be shot". Patriotic junkies!
Karachi is the closest thing you'll find to a place ruled by competing anarchist gangs. I had a contract gig in Pak-land in 2007, and there were fifteen separate jihadi groups just operating in the warehouse district.
Pakistan separates lawbreakers into three different categories: miscreants, dacoits, and criminals. A miscreant will punch you out and steal your bicycle, a dacoit will stab you and steal your bicycle, and a criminal will shoot you, steal your bicycle, then engage the police in a running firefight involving automatic weapons on both sides.
Scott M - Short of what you describe, another problem with Afghanistan is its position as no. 1 supplier of various illicit opiates. Some have suggested buying the crop and turning it into fuel, which is apparently possible. I have a simpler idea; it involves Agent Orange and napalm.
The people involved get told well in advance, of course. If they refuse to leave - well, that's what Darwinian theory is all about.
Whenever I hear the uber-liberal United Church types bitch about Israel being an illegitimate country because it was founded on 'religion', I simply ask them whether a country for Jews is a better place than one carved out of India for Muslims. Or whether all the other artificially created Muslim countries are much better.
He said US$1 billion per year is spent on heroin in Karachi. I wonder how much of that "trickles down" from the American aid packages.