July 16, 2013

L.A. 1965 & 1992: Is this what you have in mind, Mr. Holder?

Hey kids, ever been in a city when the army comes in? I've been in two of them. It's not pretty. You won't like it. You won't like the "leaders and their lapdog media" that made it happen.

Well, you can cool it,
You can heat it . . .
'Cause, baby, I don't need it . . .
Take your TV tube and eat it
'N all that phony stuff on sports
'N all the unconfirmed reports
You know I watched that rotten box
Until my head begin to hurt
From checkin' out the way
The newsman say they get the dirt
Before the guys on channel so-and-so

And further they assert
That any show they'll interrupt
To bring you news if it comes up
They say that if the place blows up
They will be the first to tell,
Because the boys they got downtown
Are workin' hard and doin' swell,
And if anybody gets the news
Before it hits the street,
They say that no one blabs it faster
Their coverage can't be beat

And if another woman driver
Gets machine-gunned from her seat
They'll send some joker with a brownie
And you'll see it all complete

So I'm watchin' and I'm waitin'
Hopin' for the best
Even think I'll go to prayin'
Every time I hear 'em sayin'
That there's no way to delay
That trouble comin' every day
No way to delay
That trouble comin' every day

-- Frank Zappa

The six-day riot resulted in 34 deaths, 1,032 injuries, 3,438 arrests, and over $40 million in property damage. It was the most severe riot in the city's history until the Los Angeles riots of 1992.

1992 LA Riots:

The rioting ended after soldiers from the California Army National Guard, along with U.S. Marines from Camp Pendleton were called in to stop the rioting after the local police could not handle the situation. In total, 53 people were killed during the riots and over two thousand people were injured.

Posted by gerardvanderleun at July 16, 2013 11:45 PM
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White Guy Riots
http://youtu.be/7UJFM59NfXw

No why do you suppose politicians pander to one group and ignore the other group?

If your enemies are certain your response is tolerable you will be taken advantage of. Doing nothing will bring riots to your neighborhood, and then what will you have to do?

Posted by: Scott M at July 17, 2013 12:54 AM

Two mistakes were made in the L.A. riots. One was stopping them. Two was paying for the rebuilding.

Making a bed and sleeping thing.

Posted by: Peccable at July 17, 2013 3:22 AM

But riots are totally bitchin'! Can you imagine what great pictures Rachel Maddow or Chris Matthews could take from the balconies of their high-rise condos in the city? And don't worry about their safety. Most of those upscale places have helipads on the roof so NBC helicopters can get the Talents to their vacation spots in the Hamptons without missing a beat.

Posted by: Mumblix Grumph at July 17, 2013 4:46 AM

Zappa nails it with this one.

The harmonica gets on my nerves. Intentionally I suppose.

Posted by: chasmatic at July 17, 2013 5:32 AM

Sure, "Mr. Holder"; still the buck stops with the bastard, DearLeaderObama himself.
Holder's Barry's tool.
Zappa's Zappa, profound. He could have done without the white guilt,
as the two wonderful black gentlemen (in second video) very capably demonstrated (at :29sec, and 2:10 marks).
America was the best country that ever was. I did say "was". I fear we've lost her forever.. (Barry is a "pretender".)
..She (America) went from George Washington, to George "W"; she wasn't perfect, still no apologies, and no guilt.

Posted by: Russ at July 17, 2013 7:08 AM

I remember crossing street at El Segundo and Doty Ave with a friend during '65, to get drinks at market. We watched National Guard personnel trucks roll eastbound toward Watts, about a dozen, I think. We were close enough to see columns of smoke rising 3-5 miles away, but far enough culturally that our parents didn't mind two ten year old's the run of the neighborhood with chaos a short distance away. My mom also took me and two other friends to a theater on Imperial and Crenshaw on a Saturday during the riots. We were the only people present and were treated to "She" (Ursula Andress!)and original "Flight of the Phoenix" with Jimmy Stewart.

Posted by: stephen b at July 17, 2013 7:29 AM

I remember crossing street at El Segundo and Doty Ave with a friend during '65, to get drinks at market. We watched National Guard personnel trucks roll eastbound toward Watts, about a dozen, I think. We were close enough to see columns of smoke rising 3-5 miles away, but far enough culturally that our parents didn't mind two ten year old's the run of the neighborhood with chaos a short distance away. My mom also took me and two other friends to a theater on Imperial and Crenshaw on a Saturday during the riots. We were the only people present and were treated to "She" (Ursula Andress!)and original "Flight of the Phoenix" with Jimmy Stewart.

Posted by: stephen b at July 17, 2013 7:33 AM

I did not intend to post twice...my apologies.

Posted by: stephen b at July 17, 2013 7:36 AM

I was in a weather related "disaster", the National Guard was called in. I had permission (aka papers) to drive on the streets because of my job, but was stopped by the N.G. as I traveled. Seeing the military in full gear in your city of residence is an uneasy feeling no matter what the situation.

Posted by: Todd at July 17, 2013 7:47 AM

Dude may have been a few bricks shy of a full load, but damn he was a great musician.

Posted by: Fat Man at July 17, 2013 12:22 PM

I was with a military drill team temporarily trapped on our bus in DC in '68 when MLK died and had to watch an hour of rioting. I realized then, "anything" brings this out of low info identity
groups.
It was surreal. No one was afraid, only aggravated we would be late. It was like third world stuff.

Posted by: elr at July 17, 2013 3:04 PM

I was hopin' for "Rhymin' Man" from Joe's Garage...now that he's back on stage, calling for help from Libya, China and Cuba...mebbe that's where all their money comes from?

Posted by: Will at July 17, 2013 3:08 PM

I agree that paying to rebuild after the riots was a serious mistake, but the alternative is Detroit: where you never rebuild and the city just falls to pieces.

And Frank Zappa was a towering genius, with a child's crude soul when it came to lyrics. The only reason he even had lyrics was to make money, all he cared about was the music. I think he was deliberately as crude and nasty as possible to mock people for demanding he have words. OK I'll give you words.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 17, 2013 3:34 PM

I agree that paying to rebuild after the riots was a serious mistake, but the alternative is Detroit: where you never rebuild and the city just falls to pieces.

Burning your bed then trying to sleep in it is condign. Rusted inner springs are not comfortable.

Detroit is the poster city for Socialism's success. No pity, while it is a disaster, it wasn't an 'Act of the Great Poobah as was Katrina or Sandy.

Posted by: Peccable at July 18, 2013 5:57 AM

In my experience with armed troops on the streets -Operation Hawkeye, USVI September 1989- it was quite a bit scarier before the troops arrived to suppress the shitheels who were mucking up the place. Our Governor at the time waited three days before calling for help (sound familiar NOLA?) - having convinced himself that a helicopter flyover was sufficient to the task.

Fortunately a US Joint Task Force had pre-positioned assets within airlift reach...And boy did they lift alot of stuff after they secured and got the airport running. 24/7 every hour on the hour, everything from C-130's to C-5 Galaxies thundered in, unloaded their stuff, and lumbered up and away full of people who'd had enough and someplace else to go to.

Anyway, I was in the middle of a couple of the riots (they weren't really distinct events. They were everywhere other people's stuff was) with a friend who was checking his workplace (wrecked) and watched as a couple thousand fine upstanding 'citizens' disassembled what was left of a shopping center and a town for the "essentials for survival" - You know, TV's, AC's, Stereos, Candy, and such...

The thing shouted at me that stands out the most came from a rather well-dressed sneaker pimp who was carting away a rain soaked television: "It's all ours now!". Yup it sure was you sorry piece of shit. The initial loot riots weren't really violent affairs unless you were a window, door or shutter. They were more like street carnivals...The 'alleged' people bashing arrived with nightfall.

Another noteworthy snapshot that remains -besides all the 'people dem' seizing appliances and other inedible sundries they wouldn't be able to use for an electricity free year- was of a differently-sized woman running down the street with a gallon sized bottle of what she apparently thought was expensive French perfume she'd snatched from a gutted duty free shop- It was colored oil in a bottle used for display. I'm convinced that the only reason the whole island wasn't burned to the ground was that every-rubbled-thing was too soaked to light afire. Chalk one up for lazy.

Over the ensuing days before the great ass-saving Army airlift, a local Senator was caught looting, well-known restaurant douches were gouging food they had looted, the cops and local national guard essentially disappeared (can't say I blame them for seeing to their own), a friend of mine had to shoot some fool who jumped her, and the sounds of gun battles ruled 360 degrees of night. Newly homeless I snagged a dry spot in a hallway of a friend in exchange for finding his car keys in the rubble of his house. Good sleepless times.

Fortunately the neighborhood we were in at the time quickly set up armed patrols and a checkpoint that prevented the worst from reaching us. One night on guard we watched as a truck full of folk (in what I assume was a looted/stolen National Guard truck) stop dead in its tracks a couple hundred yards away before hauling ass from our roadblock...Seems they were a bit reluctant to tangle with a bunch of rifle-toting silhouettes shining spotlights in their eyes.

Interesting times that I'm glad to have experienced but would be gladder if I never have to do that again - but I will if it saves my niece & nephew from shouldering the burden...No thanks to the great agitating beast Fedzilla.gov has become.

Posted by: monkeyfan at July 18, 2013 9:56 AM

Well yes, if you are stupid enough to burn your own neighborhood out of prompting by crass moneygrubbing gloryhounds, you deserve a burnt neighrborhood. I was just noting that this was the choice that the LA and state government faced: rebuild or face total collapse.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 18, 2013 2:43 PM

The veener of civilization is thinner in some communities.

Posted by: ThHat at July 19, 2013 8:27 AM

Love the sound of this tune- unpolished- harp and electric guitar, early rock.

Posted by: mjazz at July 19, 2013 8:43 AM