November 8, 2012

Occulus Dissents

[Note: Robert Oculus has written a long responsive comment on the AMERICAN DIGEST item "The Common Sense Resistance" -- Tonight was the Night That Freed America. Unlike many others in the discussion thread, he doesn't buy it. His is a different take on the matter. It's presented here in full. I don't think he's speaking only for himself.]

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LOL. You folks didn't realize how many Young Pioneers we have in this country, did you? Well, you know now. Now that the Party has seized control of the Winter Palace, all the little Bolsheviks can take off their masks and wave high the blood-red banner. (Guess what the word "bolshevik" means in Russian?)

The Revolution is over. With Black Lenin's unimpeachable power (heh), they will now proceed to construct the socialist order.

For what it's worth, folks, any political approach we might take -- even the one outlined in the video -- is pointless.

If the recent election has shown anything it's that ideology isn't going to save us. What's going to save us is Christianity and nationalism. That's not Amurrrican "nationalism", the kind dependent on a piece of ink-stained parchment or an ideology, but real, ethnic nationalism, as in ancestry, language, and culture. And that's not that wishy-washy guidance-counselor ersatz Christianity, but the kind that isn't "nice" -- the kind that Jesus Himself taught and the kind that men like Saint Louis and King Jan Sobieski practiced.

I know many of you think Christianity and nationalism are stupid, but historically the combination is the only force that has ever defeated the twin demons of Islam (Spain, 1492) and communism (Spain, 1936), and it's the only force that will defeat them now. Now, I know some of you think God is a fairy tale, and I know most of you sincerely believe that men of good will united by the Constitution can live in peace, but please believe me when I tell you that you are wrong on both counts. We are in a racial and spiritual war -- and we had better recognize that fact if we wish to survive.

"Racial war". I know you don't like the sound of that. I don't like it, either. We have all been trained from birth in the dogma that "people are people", that "we're all the same under the skin", and that "all men are equal in God's eyes." Fine sentiments -- but they don't track with reality as observed. Only the last of these is true. We are about to find out the other two were lies -- and we'll find it out the hard way. There are many fine folk among the members of every race, of course, but the fact that some individual members of a given race are simpatico does not erase the fact that races as such exist, and that these races have divergent and often-incompatible interests.

You can't blame blacks, Latinos, and Asian-Americans for their support of the President. He will act in their interests. Unlike white people, blacks, browns, and Asians admit that they exist and that they have interests. We whites can't even admit that we exist!

But we are going to have to do the same as the brown people do -- or we'll die. The Lord says that we must love our neighbor as ourselves, and of course we all believe Him. But what often gets overlooked is that you can't love your neighbor as yourself unless you love yourself. and the first step to loving yourself is to admit that you exist and that you have the right to exist.

Please note: I'm not arguing for hatred, violence, pointy hoods, swastikas, or any of that nonsense. Hatred is antichristian and destructive. Violence is permissible only in defense of self or others. And only white trash would wear a swastika or pointy hood. I am arguing for love -- love of our own people, of our own ways, of our own children -- not hatred of others. To paraphrase Lyndon Baines Johnson, "We must learn to love ourselves, or we must die."

As for the spiritual war: I don't think that the president and his minions are personally evil. But I do think that they are at the very least slaves of our Enemy, who is the Devil himself.

And you can't fight the Devil with clever Internet arguments. Argument is over. Politics is over. There are no longer enough conservative white people left to keep the world afloat. Liberal brown people control it all now, and they will impose their worldview and way of life on us. We cannot stop them at the ballot box: they still have children, while we stopped. We cannot defeat them by debate; debate be raciss. We are going to have to stop thinking in terms of elections and arguments and adopt attitudes and behaviors that we might once have considered deeply repugnant in order to survive.

In any case, I hope the election of 2012 has opened your eyes in some small way to the realities of the world we now face. The old world is over, gang, and we are all going to have to begin thinking and acting in a new way if we wish to survive, much less remain free. Such bold thinking is being done elsewhere on the Internet. If you want to be part of it, I can recommend several places to start. Please feel free to contact me via e-mail if the whim strikes you. [Email added in]

If not, best of luck. Sticking with the old paradigm won't work any more. Just remember this, folks: The enemy no longer cares about your arguments. They know they are right. And besides, you a raciss, so nothing you say matters.

Each of us has a choice to make: do we continue to live in the world that was, the world of the Pledge, Old Glory, and suburbia, or do we step up and face reality as it is, no matter how unpleasant that reality may be?

Choose. "Night cometh".

Posted by Robert Oculus III at November 8, 2012 8:14 AM

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I think that your view and Bill Whittle's view are not mutually exclusive.
What better way to show love of our culture than to put heart and soul(and yes, money) into ventures that will elegantly sidestep the creaky,fat slow vertical leviathan of the State. What better way to celebrate the superiority of Western culture than to teach it to our children.
My family is doing this - we are homeschooling, studying the Bible, going to church with like-minded Christians and we will become part of whatever subversive organization of conservative freedom lovers we choose.
The concept Mr. Whittle laid out is a powerful one and it gives me some economic hope for my country. Jesus Christ has already taken care of eternity, but what we do while we are here also matters. Your points are also valid. Western culture fueled by Christianity has brought much light and peace to the world. The world has become the white man's burden. Rudyard Kipling knew it and so do we.

Posted by: teresa at November 8, 2012 11:43 AM

Can’t wait to hear back from Mr.Oculus.

For all I know though, I’m now first in line to be rounded up by the Obama Machine. Bring plenty of ammo, Boys. And body bags.

Posted by: tim at November 8, 2012 1:05 PM

All I know is that right now, I am still trying to get over the shock. How to move forward from here - haven't figured that out yet.

The shock. Kind of like the shock of discoverying that Tolkien had really written an alternate ending to the LOR, before his editors forced him to change it to be upbeat -- a cruel ending that sadistically left the reader hanging, without a final answer, but in a state of dread....knowing that the outcome was one of doom.

Sauron has captured Frodo. Frodo failed. Frodo and Sam are dead. Sauron has the ring. Everything is calm in the Shire for we hobbits ....for now....but the sound of Orc drums can now be heard, ever so faintly, in the distance.....approaching....

And as they say on Game of Thrones..."winter is coming."

Posted by: southernjames at November 8, 2012 2:18 PM

I demur, as in the other thread, on their personal evil and further state the individual that sees to his own is the collectives' best hope.

If Whittle's counsel is to be a peg boy for the status quo he's playing into their hand. Furthermore, to date, Christians have prima facie failed in self governance. Around the world. Contra Teresa, I submit, this is eternity, for what is time without someone to experience it?

We are the instrument OF eternity to know itself. So, one might ask how many of those three million votes McCain got in '08 that didn't show up for Romney were Christian?

If Christians (or so called conservatives) had the courage of their convictions things would never have come to this pass. A niece reminds me today the Bible says be doers of the Word, not hearers only!

We've forgotten how to do. We're a nation of takers, not makers. And Christians are the worst of this lot taking God's grace while just waiting on a gig in heaven while gorging on self righteous congratulation that they have a direct pipeline to God.

Our duty is to Love the Lord, not nag him with petitions, the ultimate insult, as if he were ignorant of our needs. Finally, the collective has morphed into an autophagia the termination of which is shrouded in mystery. What is the remedy for a society whose institutions, social structures and dynamics, politics, inevitably turn predatory on the environment from which they arose? Maybe we can agree, at least, it is a self destructive dynamic the final throes of which we are doomed to suffer.

Posted by: John Hinds at November 8, 2012 3:00 PM

Why do you hate white people?

Posted by: Robert Oculus III at November 8, 2012 3:25 PM

I would love to believe that things will work out as Bill plans, that our money isn't so zimbabwefied that 9.99 a month is worth less than -.09, and he isn't sitting in jail himself, not knowing which felonious infraction of the law he committed.

Posted by: Jewel at November 8, 2012 3:28 PM

After the past four years of listening and observing I have come to the following conclusions.

1. That unless I personally know them it is safe to assume that ALL Blacks and Hispanics I meet are racists who hate me. It is now up to THEM to prove to me they are not. I was not raised to think this way but after what I have heard out of them for the past four years it is fairly obvious to me that this is the truth.

2. America is now little more than a junkie and like all junkies it will have to go through the fire and come out the other side. If you have ever known a junkie you know what I am talking about. There comes a point when you grasp the fact that you cannot do anything to help a junkie but come to the realization that you have done your best to help them, wash your hands of the whole situation and let them go through that fire and come out the other side. I am at that point. America may live or it may die but it will never be the same.

3. Ever hear of the "Two Solitudes"? We are at that point. I have nothing in common with 'bleu staters' and they have nothing in common with me. I have tried to care about them because they are allegedly 'my fellow countrymen' but after being scorned, ridiculed, derided and spat upon by them over the past decade I am beyond caring anymore. One can only take so much and I am now to the point where they can all go to hell as far as I am concerned. I am now only concerned about my family, friends and my state for it is now 'my country'.

A side note...There is no point in some following commenter flaming me over this post. I am no longer listening to your ilk. I don't care anymore and that, my leftist liberal bleu state 'friend', should scare you. There are many more who are like me then there are of you.

Posted by: Nahanni at November 8, 2012 5:11 PM

As a Chistian, I hate to admit it but your arguments make sense.

Posted by: SALLY at November 8, 2012 5:18 PM

Bolshevik - derived from bol'shinstvo, "majority" as opposed to Menshevik - derived from men'shinstvo, "minority", which comes from men'she, "less". The terms refer to the size of the various factions at the Second Party Congress in 1903.

Posted by: Soviet of Washington at November 8, 2012 5:25 PM

So how do I reach oculus? Or, how does he reach me? Is there a website?

Posted by: Ashen at November 8, 2012 5:49 PM

There are many more who are like me then there are of you.

No, that's the problem, this is no longer true.

Posted by: pdwalker at November 8, 2012 5:55 PM

He reminds me of that guy in the basement with Tom Cruise in War of the Worlds. I detect some underlying delight with "finally!" I used to think that role was poorly cast.
Short fuse and a little too sales-pitchy.

Posted by: RPF at November 8, 2012 5:56 PM

I happen to be a secessionist and an ethnic nationalist. If I had a dime for every time I've been called a racist, I could easily buy a field-trial-bred Labrador Retriever.

However, I still think Bill's video is excellent and well worth watching. I hope he will explore his ideas further. After all, we may know what we want to get away from, but where do we want to go? It would be a pointless to fight another Revolution, a race war or whatever, only to turn around and recreate the same system. Also the book he recommended, 'The Starfish and the Spider' is worth reading. You can skip quite a bit of it, because it has a lot of the paen-to-the-latest-corporate-wunderkind b.s. that those books always have. However, there is some good stuff in it as well.

Thanks again, Gerald, for finding and posting the video.

Posted by: Lorne at November 8, 2012 6:11 PM

The West in general, and America in particular, is contracepting and aborting itself into irrelevance, if not extinction. One's enemy can't be blamed for one's freely-chosen suicide.

Posted by: Christian at November 8, 2012 6:20 PM

don't see your e-mail, but would love some additional resources. Also to anyone who may be local, I live in greensboro, nc and would like to meet like minded individuals. My e-mail is jsw1108@msn.com.

Posted by: jwoop66 at November 8, 2012 6:32 PM

don't see your e-mail, but would love some additional resources. Also to anyone who may be local, I live in greensboro, nc and would like to meet like minded individuals. My e-mail is jsw1108@msn.com.

Posted by: jwoop66 at November 8, 2012 6:32 PM

My e-mail address is oculusiii@gmail.com. A link may be found in the original comment post.

Posted by: Robert Oculus III at November 8, 2012 6:41 PM

If there is any interest:

Table 101. Abortions—Number and Rate by Race: 1990 to 2007

http://www.census.gov/compendia/statab/2012/tables/12s0101.pdf


Posted by: Jimmy don\'t play that at November 8, 2012 7:09 PM

I felt it, too. Relief. A sense of freedom. I won't re-write what I wrote four years ago on my blog. I've re-read every stinging thing I said to the GOP then, and it stands up to the day. But I will attest to the "free" air such a day as Nov. 6th brought. The fight is over and we are free to be ourselves. Despised, hated? Whatevs. What does it matter, if we were accused of every evil even while we were generous and kind and industrious?

Posted by: Joan of Argghh at November 8, 2012 7:12 PM

As an American born in Cuba, I have to admit to what has been said. Hispanics do not like us because we side with conservative patriots. CW is coming, hope we can identify friends from foes.

Posted by: Iggy at November 8, 2012 7:21 PM


You area completely correct. After living in So. Calif. all my life, I can tell you it's completely changed: Mexicans, Asians, and all the rest, mean to take us over. From the classroom in elementary, high school and college, they have programs to put them selves in and to remove US. And they JUST KEEP POURING IN.
The rules are set.
WE MUST DEFEND OUR RACE, RELIGION... AND(!) the Constitution, because only our culture could have written the Constitution

Posted by: T at November 8, 2012 9:04 PM


You area completely correct. After living in So. Calif. all my life, I can tell you it's completely changed: Mexicans, Asians, and all the rest, mean to take us over. From the classroom in elementary, high school and college, they have programs to put them selves in and to remove US. And they JUST KEEP POURING IN.
The rules are set.
WE MUST DEFEND OUR RACE, RELIGION... AND(!) the Constitution, because only our culture could have written the Constitution

Posted by: T at November 8, 2012 9:04 PM


You area completely correct. After living in So. Calif. all my life, I can tell you it's completely changed: Mexicans, Asians, and all the rest, mean to take us over. From the classroom in elementary, high school and college, they have programs to put them selves in and to remove US. And they JUST KEEP POURING IN.
The rules are set.
WE MUST DEFEND OUR RACE, RELIGION... AND(!) the Constitution, because only our culture could have written the Constitution

Posted by: T at November 8, 2012 9:04 PM

9 November 2012

When this administration was sworn in I was comforting myself with belief that there are laws to prevent the most gross outrages. Then came GM bailout, offshore drilling ban, Obamacare pass by reconciliation. With the 2010 win of the House, I was hopeful that the spending would be slowed or stopped, and that house investigations will at least give the gangsters a pause. That worked out well, too.

They will move faster now because our side is shellshocked and completely underestimate their intentions and tactics. The sky won't fall tomorrow but each day will be a little harder, little darker, little more hopeless. This is not to say we need to give up; just the opposite, but know this, yesterday's rules no longer apply.

1. Obama and his minions will spend the next four years undermining, if not destroying, the potential for another fair election.

2. Obama and his minions will spend the next four years institutionalizing graft, corruption, and cronyism to a point where people will be afraid to cross them. Businesses who either will not, or cannot financially demonstrate their loyalty to the proper officials and party will be taxed and regulated out of existence.

3. Obama and his minions will put in place the policies and conditions by which more of America receive some or all of their income through government handouts, ensuring that people will be forced to vote from fear and envy, rather than ideals.

4. Obama and his minions will solidify their hold on the education system, to make sure that subsequent generations see things through a collectivist lens.

5. The Constitution, US Code, tradition, morality and common sense will be ignored when inconvenient, dissent will be ridiculed or crushed, and the court systems will be packed to ensure that there will be no successful legal challenge. Republican "leadership" will be nothing more than a speedbump initially, and eventually cave completely in order to maintain a place at the table, because that's what really matters to them.

We must stick together and help each other. There will be challenges as never before. Between ourselves and on several on-line forums there are enough brilliant and experienced people from all walks of life to out-think, outwit and find ways to go around lots if not most of what is going to hit us. I would rather spend my mental energies in other ways, but this is a new reality and we better deal with cold facts.

Hope is not a sound basis for planning. Wishful thinking is a certain road to ruin.

The sooner we realize that they are not bound by any law that is inconvenient to them the better we will be able to resist. And resist we must, even if is only reorganizing our lives toward black market. We cannot sacrifice principles to pandering. I agree--strongly--with these sentiments from another correspondent who wrote, in part:

... We have to hit bottom FAST. A slow decline to socialism will lead to the same conditions that allowed the rise of Islamic fascist influence in countries like Great Britain. Don't laugh. You probably thought a lot of things could never happen that
are now commonly accepted. ... Hit bottom fast. ... Get it over with. Don't just slide down the hole clawing all the way to the bottom. Jump in and hit the trampoline with enough force to bounce back to the top. SPEND BABY!

In my opinion, the best way forward to to hasten the inevitable. WTF?

The quicker we get to full-form economic collapse, the better. It is the shock factor that is needed. If Americans can incrementally adjust to a continued lowering of their expectations, of their standard of living, they will as well adjust to the pain; the slower boiling of the frog. We need to be plunged full scale into the boiling pot.

THUS, in spite of the harm to national security and loss of tens of thousands, millions of employees' jobs, I fully support allowing sequestration to go forward, for the "tax cuts" to expire etc. Sure, we invite attacks against America, what's new?

Benghazi happened and we did nothing. Shit happens, why should we think that with a robust military or a emasculated military the National Command Authority's direction would be any different? People, innocent people will die. Just the cost of "perfecting" the union, as the resident might say...

Bring it on. Let's financially "break" America sooner, rather than later. It is going to happen one way or another. Once we go through a figurative chapter 13, both financially and politically America can emerge and try to regain it fundamentals, as Lord discusses.

Millions and millions of additional Americans, unemployed, seeking benefits, foodstamps (and free phones). I envision lines forming at soup kitchen run by FEMA or more likely, your local church. The pain must be REAL, GREAT and IMMEDIATE.

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One of the reasons that economic sanctions never work when applied by the "international community" is because they are "targeted" and incremental. The population is able to adjust to a downward spiral. The country's leadership never wants for anything, in any case. So, while the plan of the international community is to financially "break" the targeted country and create a situation wherein the populace "rises up" against the leadership, such never/NEVER happens. The sanctions never succeed because they are "focused," limited, and the population adjusts.

Americans are being currently being auto-sanctioned by the resident. Ask Mr Gibson Guitar. The resident will continue to target with economic sanctions one population segment after another. In so doing, the effort will be incremental and the Congress, in an effort forestall the inevitable, will unintentionally assist the resident in his plan.

Slow is not good. I fully support "Over the Fiscal Cliff" we go. Faster, please.

Now, I am an eternal optimist at the bottom of my heart, so I have to fight my own nature into the bargain. But, if you are not organizing and planning your life with these things in mind, God help you.

I'll be more than pleased, very happy in fact, to be proven wrong.

Take good care,
Sandy

Posted by: Sandy Daze at November 9, 2012 8:23 AM

MAKE THE LEFT OWN IT, OWN IT ALL.

My friend Jim earlier responded to my idea saying:


What if the Republicans in Congress just tell Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi and the Pres to work among themselves and come up with their grand solution to the debt crisis with the understanding that all Republicans will abstain so the Dem plan can go through unopposed before the end of the year.

All of a sudden the bad old Republicans are no longer the party of no, and the Dems can't sucker them into shutting down the government. But they aren't compromising their principles either, because there is no agreed upon "grand bargain". The Republicans merely say to the American people what they have been telling them for the past five years: The Dem plan will make a bad situation immeasurably worse, and that Republicans will be watching to pick up the pieces when the inevitable failure comes.
Most of us believe that the Dem plan will result in complete economic disaster, and so do I. Passing that plan now makes it much more likely than not that the resulting chaos will occur on the Dem watch. This gets us more quickly to the situation you advocate, i.e. that we need a virtually complete collapse for the takers to come to their senses. More, it puts responsibility squarely on ElJefe, Dingy Harry and Plastic Pelosi because it has none of the "bipartisan" bs.
This type of situation is typical in countries with a parliamentary government. The majority forms a government and generally governs without regard to the feelings of the majority. Competing philosophies of government really do compete.

Make the Dems own it, own it all. YES, precisely. The left needs our opposition, so they can continue to use that opposition as a crudgle to beat us up with, to hide behind. Don't let them.

Harry Reid says there is a mandate, reply, in this manner: We most strongly disagree with your plans and intentions. Socialism never works, and never ends well. But, since you think it is our opposition to your plan that keeps success from being achieved, have at it. We will not actively oppose your efforts, even though we most fervently disagree with your intentions. But we will not stand in your way, we abstain on principle.

Make them own it.

Truth is, the makers will survive, for the takers, which is fundamentally what this election devolved into makers vs takers, it will become a Hobbesian world. While they devolve in the snarling mass that will come, surely as the sun rises in the East, we, the makers can prepare. We can relocate into new population concentrations, and if and when succession or other steps are required/desired, we will be ready.

Let them have their hell.


Posted by: Sandy Daze at November 9, 2012 8:42 AM

Wow, you people are stone crazy. I have never come across anything as ugly, racist and delusional as your sick minds. Please stay in your bunkers for just as long as you want to and a decade or four longer.

Posted by: Gerald Howard at November 9, 2012 8:46 AM

Really, Howard? If so I have to say you are either very new, very young, very disingenuous, or have not been looking very hard to the right or the left. Sick minds are easier to find. Look inward.

Posted by: vanderleun at November 9, 2012 8:50 AM

Howard, one day you will wake up. Unfortunately it will be too late.

Posted by: Cilla Mitchell at November 9, 2012 9:27 AM

Twist away, Arthur!

Posted by: vanderleun at November 9, 2012 10:07 AM

Lots to say on this - too much for a blog comment.

Please click my sig link below, if you're so inclined.

Posted by: goy at November 9, 2012 10:35 AM

"For all I know though, I’m now first in line to be rounded up by the Obama Machine. Bring plenty of ammo, Boys. And body bags."

Nah! One drone, one really big bomb or missile. So...Come with me if you want to live. ;-}

Posted by: John at November 9, 2012 12:47 PM

Although I found Oculus's comment intriguing when I first read it yesterday, now that I've had some time to stew on it, repugnant is the word I would now use. He is a clever man, using seductive phrasing to soft-sell his Neo-nationalism, like Hello Kitty with a swastika. He says “there are many fine folk among the members of every race”, then advocates going to war with them. He describes it as “ethnic nationalism”. What the hell do you people think that means? What he is doing is no different than what the left does, which is the politics of division. I want no part of it, and any conservative or libertarian who does needs to have his head examined.

I exist, but my race or religion is not my identity. My identity is American, and the truly beautiful and unique American culture is what I wish to preserve. I will fight for it with my live if need be. I'm not against an armed revolution, but because the outcome of any revolution is completely uncertain it should be the last resort, and we are not there yet. Only a fool would think that a country lead by the likes of Robert Oculus III would be any less authoritarian then what we have now.

Those of you wishing to find those “bold thinkers” Robert mentions, I can save you some time, just go to Stormfront.org. I'm sure if you communicate with him, eventually that is where you end up. If Robert isn't already a recruiter for one of the White Nationalist movements, he missed his calling because he sure has the pitch down.

Posted by: Maksim at November 9, 2012 1:56 PM

@Maksim, November 9, 2012 1:56 PM:

Your attempt to put your words in my mouth has failed.

I do not now and never have advocated race war.

I have never sought nor do I have any desire to lead anybody anywhere.

I have never written one word in praise of Hitler or Naziism. I cordially detest National Socialism, neo- or otherwise. I am not now nor have I ever been a member or reader of Stormfront or any other neo-Nazi website or group.

Maksim, you are an anti-white bigot, and I'm sorry your heart is so filled with hate, but your pathetic attempt at shutting me up won't work. I no longer fear merchants of hate such as you.

And I'm not alone. The response to this little post has been phenomenal. My mailbox is overflowing with e-mail from whites seeking to break free from the propaganda trap constructed by the likes of you. Each passing day brings more and more pro-white websites, books, podcasts, and radio shows into the consciousness of white people. Every day, more and more white people decide that they can stop hating themselves and be proud of who and what they are.

The era of white guilt is over, Maksim. The days when anti-whites like you are able to bully whites into hating themselves are at an end. You -- and your cosmopolitan ideology -- have failed.

In any case, I do not have to justify myself to you. It is you who has become repugnant. Go be a white-hater somewhere else.

Posted by: Robert Oculus III at November 9, 2012 3:49 PM

I'm not trying to shut you up Robert, I'm trying to discredit you and the more you speak the easier it gets. I'm also not putting words in your vile mouth, I'm quoting you. As to your popularity, I'm not surprised, as we all know this country is full of idiots. I'm sure you jumped with joy over Obama's win knowing you'd take advantage of peoples anger and use it to poison their minds.

The only whites I hate are your kind.

Posted by: maksim at November 9, 2012 4:53 PM

sounds like the 'governor' on the walking dead

Posted by: fred at November 12, 2012 10:40 PM

sounds like the 'governor' on the walking dead

Posted by: fred at November 12, 2012 10:40 PM
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